IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 16 February 2011   (all times are UTC)

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<nutron>
ok, where's the best place to set a user environment variable when using ltsp?
00:13
ie, I've been told to enable GCONF_LOCAL_LOCKS=1 per user .. but where do I do that really?
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<muppis>
TIMESERVER in lts.conf seems not working in lucid, or do I miss something?
05:01
<alkisg>
AFAIK it's working in Lucid
05:01
Do you need NAT to reach the time server?
05:01
Is your TIMEZONE correct?
05:04
<muppis>
TIMEZONE is set to Europe/Helsinki.
05:06
ntpdate works from client.
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<garymc>
i wa sin yesterday asking about keyboard stuff. my keybord doesnt work on my sony vaio when i log into ltsp via ethernet. can anyone post the link again. sorry i los the link and this chatzilla doesnt have a history thing.
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<garymc>
!keyboard
05:46
<ltspbot>
garymc: Error: "keyboard" is not a valid command.
05:47
<garymc>
!list
05:47
<ltspbot>
garymc: Admin, Alias, Channel, ChannelLogger, Config, Factoids, Google, Internet, Karma, Misc, Owner, Seen, Status, and User
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<Hyperbyte>
I've set TIMEZONE and TIMESERVER in lts.conf, installed ntpdate into the chroot... still the clients refuse to set the timezone specified or update the time. What am I missing? :-)
06:03
This is with LTSP 5.1.95-1 running on Fedora 13 x86_64. ntpdate works fine if I run it manually.
06:18
<muppis>
Hyperbyte, actually I got same problem with Ubuntu Lucid..
06:18
<Hyperbyte>
That's interesting actually.
06:19
<muppis>
Yep.
06:20
<Hyperbyte>
I just moved the set_time code from <chroot>/usr/share/ltsp/ltsp-init-common to a startup script and it works beeeeeautiful.
06:21
So I think I can safely say it's not my fault. :)
06:21
<muppis>
Had to take a look.
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<Hyperbyte>
I'm really beginning to love LTSP, the more I start to understand it
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<garymc>
i wa sin yesterday asking about keyboard stuff. my keybord doesnt work on my sony vaio when i log into ltsp via ethernet. can anyone post the link again. sorry i los the link and this chatzilla doesnt have a history thing.
08:01
<alkisg>
See the topic, there's a link to the logs there
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08:13
<garymc>
alkisg : thanks. Now what and where is the x.org documentation?
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08:14* Hyperbyte grins
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<Hyperbyte>
http://x.org/
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08:16
<alkisg>
garymc: can you boot your vaio normally and see the layout/
08:16
?
08:16
Then just use that value for XKBLAYOUT
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(normally == I mean with a live cd or something)
08:16
<garymc>
how would i do that? I can boot the viao into windows xp if thats what you mean
08:17
<markit>
garymc: lol
08:17
<garymc>
where would i see the layout in XP?
08:17
ahh come on ... im a little slow on these matters
08:18
<markit>
garymc: use a real OS, download and burn a CD with a Live distro, like ubuntu/kubuntu (if you use ubuntu/kubuntu as ltsp server)
08:19
then boot from cd, is usually a startup option of the bios (like press F12)
08:19
or an option if you change boot priority in the bios setup
08:19
<garymc>
well i boot the viao from ethernet
08:19
ethernet is linked to LTSP server
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<markit>
garymc: when you boot from ethernet, you boot to ltsp server, but to troubleshooting alkisg is asking you to boot from a "regular local OS"
08:20
and grab the value of the XKBLAYOUT (we will have to ask alkisg how to obtain it, since I don't know either)
08:20
<garymc>
ok, so i need to burn a cd and boot from that?
08:20
would i have to install it to the hard drive?
08:20
<markit>
garymc: exactly
08:20
NO
08:20
<alkisg>
garymc: "my keybord doesnt work on my sony vaio when i log into ltsp via ethernet" ==> I thought that meant that it worked locally, but you meant in windows XP
08:21
<markit>
garymc: live cd are intended also NOT to be installed, but simply booted and enjoided without affecting your HD
08:21
<alkisg>
garymc: so, the problem is that you don't know how to select the correct keyboard layout for your vaio in gnome?
08:21
<garymc>
it works when im using it in windows
08:21
<alkisg>
Or do you think it's an LTSP problem?
08:21
<garymc>
yes i think so
08:21
<alkisg>
Linux problem or LTSP problem?
08:21
<garymc>
possibly either one
08:21
<alkisg>
OK, so what I'm saying is, "narrow it down"
08:22
Boot with a live CD or a live usb stick, so no LTSP there
08:22
If it works there, see the layout you use
08:22
If it doesn't, then it isn't an LTSP problem
08:22
So you need to ask in #ubuntu or your distro channel
08:22
<garymc>
about a live version on usb stick?
08:22
<markit>
alkisg: how can you tell what layout you are using? is a global environment variable set?
08:23
<alkisg>
markit: one way to see it is from the gnome keyboard applet
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<markit>
garymc: there is a windows program also, AFAIK, that lets you create a "booting usb stick" from a .iso, so no need to burn a cd, if your vaio is able to boot from usb, of course
08:24
<garymc>
hmmmmm
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08:24
<garymc>
could i just go through all the layouts in ltsp?
08:25
<markit>
garymc: I think so, but alkisg is the guru here
08:27
<garymc>
alkisg could i just try every layout till it worked?
08:30
<markit>
is only a matter of time wasted or not, try , you will not damage ltsp server
08:31
garymc: in any case GNU/Linux is far better than XP, it respects your freedoms, worth a try, so you'd better have a usb live in any case
08:32
(I do love KDE as desktop environment, but Gnome is very popular as well, so is your choice, use a Kubuntu or Ubuntu iso)
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08:32* markit has no M$Windows installed in any of his home PC, and feels much much better
08:32
<alkisg>
garymc: I thought you already had an ubuntu.iso from when you installed your ltsp server, but sure, you can also try from ltsp
08:32
garymc: boot in XP, run "intl.cpl" and see the layout
08:32
Then you can select a similar one in linux
08:33
garymc: all this: not related to #ltsp :)
08:35
<garymc>
ok, alkisg that just shows regional settings. no layout stuff etc
08:36
but i did start going through differnet layouts in ltsp and the Y U I O stay as 1 2 3 4
08:36
no matter what one i selected
08:41* _UsUrPeR_ tips his hat
08:42
<_UsUrPeR_>
I am attempting to test LTSP with Ubuntu 11.04 Alpha 2. Updated this morning. I am seeing the following error:
08:42
<Gadi>
garymc: num_lock?
08:42
<_UsUrPeR_>
request_module: runaway loop modprobe binfmt-464c
08:42
anybody have any ideas?
08:42
never seen this before...
08:43
that error occurs on boot
08:43
<garymc>
no there isnt a number pad on the right of the keyboard as it is a laptop
08:43
<Gadi>
garymc: many laptops use the regular keys as number pad
08:44
Im sure you will find a numlock if you look
08:44
<garymc>
ok i will check now
08:45
yes there is
08:45
<_UsUrPeR_>
gadi: any ideas about this error in 11.04 A2?
08:45
<garymc>
let me test
08:46
<Gadi>
_UsUrPeR_: Im no expert, but I would deduce that you have a runaway loop, say of the modprobe binfmt-464c persuasion
08:46
<_UsUrPeR_>
lol ok thanks :)
08:49
<garymc>
Gadi : thank you . problem solved
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<Gadi>
garymc: np
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:)
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<markit>
Gadi: :)
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<sathis>
guys is that works sip calling with ubunt LTSP on thinclients
11:55
on ekiga
12:06
<alkisg>
Just wondering, why was ekiga removed from the default ubuntu installation?
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<abeehc>
apparently no one ever used it
12:29
<ogra>
alkisg, because of telepathy
12:30
<alkisg>
Erm. I don't think there are any telepathy phones though :)
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<abeehc>
must be a bit of both the fact no one used ekiga and there's another sip stack by default
12:31
<alkisg>
And unfortunately empathy still isn't good enough for anything
12:31
<abeehc>
but yeah i don't see any clients
12:31
<ogra>
telepathy has a sip module
12:31
telepathy-sofiasip
12:32
<alkisg>
And empathy works OK with it?
12:32
<abeehc>
hmm it looks like it would work
12:32
<ogra>
alkisg, no idea, never used sip but afaik it is used by default on the n900 so i would guess it works
12:33
<alkisg>
Sounds good
12:33
<abeehc>
i'm gonna try
12:33
ekiga certainly wasn't broken
12:33
<ogra>
its still available
12:33
just install it
12:33
<alkisg>
Right I thought it was removed because it was undermaintained, but its git shows it's actively developed
12:34
<abeehc>
that's sorta what i meant
12:34
<ogra>
no, it was removed because telepathy and empathy went in
12:35
<abeehc>
for sure makes good sense
12:35
i don't know what im doin.. added a sip acct into the applet...hehe
12:36
ah the client..
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<Hyperbyte>
About the whole softphone discussion, I've become quite interested in www.sflphone.org myself recently
14:06
It's more focused on business usage, and it needs some work still in that area, but I think it's very promising.
14:07
Oh, and I have good experiences with that in an LTSP environment as well.
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<abeehc>
bleh i think acroread just owned all the memory on my server
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and dbus is now very unhappy
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anyone know a way to avoid rebooting the box; restarting dbus doesn't help much or at all
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