IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)


Channel log from 28 January 2014   (all times are UTC)

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13:00
<arsen>
is ltsp feasible on centos? :o
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15:58
<gvy>
arsen, 4.2 might be :)
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20:14
<DannyCan>
Hello everyone, I'm trying to setup an Ubuntu LTSP image for a call center and need some help tweaking it. Is there anyone around that could lend me a hand?
20:14
<alkisg>
!ask
20:14
<ltsp`>
ask: Don't ask to ask a question, simply ask it, and if someone knows the answer, they'll respond. Please hang around for at least a full hour after asking a question, as not everybody constantly monitors the channel.
20:15
<DannyCan>
ic
20:16
How do you configure the client login to use a local user instead of a user on the server? The reason I'm asking is I want to use the home dir from the image instead of sshfs so when the desktop reboots it doens't retain any changes.
20:17
My server OS is Ubuntu 13.10 64bit and the image is xubuntu 32bit.
20:17
<alkisg>
When it reboots or whent it logs off/back on?
20:17
<DannyCan>
just reboots, that way I can have preconfigured settings in the profile that no one can change
20:18
<alkisg>
I mean this: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_name=1310986533.1915.3.camel%40alkis&forum_name=ltsp-discuss
20:18
<DannyCan>
I use autologon with only one user so when multiple people use it, it will become a pain to maintain those settings
20:23
<alkisg>
DannyCan: are you using thin clients or fat clients?
20:24
Or localapps?
20:24
<DannyCan>
That looks like it would closely do what I need however after the users are logged in the setting would still be shared. I am using fat clients.
20:24
<alkisg>
Nice, how much RAM do the clients have?
20:24
<DannyCan>
I require remote desktop and sip phone and it didn't seem that a thin client would be the best way to run both.
20:24
they have 1-2GB
20:25
<alkisg>
Are you using swap from the server? They don't have local disks, do they?
20:25
Where I'm getting at... if someone logs in and surfs, he may end up using e.g. 300 MB for browser cache, temporary system files etc
20:26
<DannyCan>
I am not using swap, and they have local disks but I have been planning on removing the hard drives. They run XP now but we hope to convert them to thick clients.
20:26
<alkisg>
If he logs off and someone else logs on, he may use another 300 MB etc etc
20:26
So, if you don't erase the memory on login, you may end up out of RAM
20:26
*erase /home/username on login
20:26
<DannyCan>
ya gotchya, I have uninstalled the web browser, that's another thing I'm working on is making it so they can only run rdesktop and sip phone.
20:27
<alkisg>
Ah, so you don't really need fat clients, just 2 localapps... ok
20:27
<DannyCan>
that's why I want the home dir to be just in the NBD image not using SSHFS
20:27
possibly mayb it can work both ways
20:28
<alkisg>
If /home/username already exists and is not in the client cow/tmpfs, then sshfs isn't used
20:28
<DannyCan>
I have all unessary packages uninstalled already, spent a day to figure that out...
20:28
<alkisg>
So all you need to do is to create it somewhere else
20:29
For example, you could symlink /home/username to /run/somewhere, which is a different tmpfs..
20:29
Or you could request 512 MB NBD "swap" from the server's nbdswapd, and format it as ext3 and mount it as /home...
20:30
Authentication will happen at the server, but the local home will be used
20:30
So there's no problem with multiple logins...
20:32
<DannyCan>
ok let me get this straight, I need the clients to use tmpfs for home. All I need to do is make sure that the /home/user already exists on the server and not on the image and it will use tmpfs?
20:32
That's the condition I am at right now and I see it using sshfs
20:32
<alkisg>
No
20:33
The client root file system is an overlay of squashfs (nbd) plus tmpfs
20:34
If /home exists on *that* file system, which normally does (i.e. the chroot/home), then sshfs is used
20:34
<DannyCan>
correct that's call that the hybrid fs, when I said image that's what I meant
20:34
<alkisg>
But if /home (on the client) is not on that overlayfs, then ltsp assumes that the sysadmin mounted /home with some other way, and so it doesn't use sshfs
20:34
<DannyCan>
ohhh gotchya so I need to delete /home from chroot
20:35
<alkisg>
No, you need some RCFILE_01 command
20:35
Or some FSTAB_1 command
20:35
Some way to mount /home while the client boots
20:36
<DannyCan>
ok I think I got it now lol. I delete /home from chroot THEN add /home to the fstab in chroot with tmpfs
20:36
<alkisg>
E.g. RCFILE_01="mkdir /run/home; rm -rf /home; ln -s /run/home /home; mkdir /home/username"
20:37
...that might work
20:37* alkisg waves goodnight
20:37
<DannyCan>
oh actually I'm not familiar with rcfile
20:38
<alkisg>
!lts.conf
20:38
<ltsp`>
lts.conf: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/lts.conf
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20:47
<DannyCan>
When I click reboot on my client it asks for the admin user's password. Is there a way to configure it so any user can reboot the PC?
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22:32
<DannyCan>
Hello how to I allow all non-sudo users to reboot without a password with xubuntu?
22:44
<Hyperbyte>
DannyCan, thin clients or fat?
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<DannyCan>
for a fat client
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<DannyCan>
hey I g2g I'll get back with u 2morrow. Hava good evening every1!
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