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Channel log from 4 December 2009   (all times are UTC)

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<alkisg>
!test
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<ltspbot>
alkisg: Error: "test" is not a valid command.
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<alkisg>
!test is <reply> testing
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<ltspbot>
alkisg: Error: "test" is not a valid command.
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<alkisg>
!learn test as <reply> testing
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<ltspbot>
alkisg: The operation succeeded.
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<alkisg>
!test
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<ltspbot>
alkisg: "test" :: <reply> testing
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<alkisg>
!forget test
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<ltspbot>
alkisg: The operation succeeded.
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02:24
<pts>
Hi all. Anyone know where I can find some good and thourogh documentation on LTSP-Cluster?
02:24
all I can find are some howtos that don't explain things to well
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<antgel>
hi all. do i remember correctly that if installing ltsp onto a network with another DHCP server (that will continue to exist) that dnsmasq is a better option than dhcpd?
06:40
basically, i want ltsp clients to work with a different DHCP server than "normal" clients
06:43
aha https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ProxyDHCP
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<alkisg>
antgel, yup, proxydhcp is fine for this case.
06:49
<antgel>
actually, have just been told that we're migrating ltsp clients to another subnet, so i don't need to worry about this at all \o/. thanks alkisg for confirming
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<shawnp0wers>
ltsp-cluster is kicking my arse
07:51
Just sayin
07:51
<Appiah>
how?
07:52
<shawnp0wers>
I can't get it to work, and quite honestly, dont' know where exactly to troubleshoot!
07:52
<Appiah>
well
07:52
whats _not_ working? :)
07:53
<shawnp0wers>
I have the bits all in place, and my thin client boots -- but after the white ubuntu logo, I just get a black screen...
07:53
It seems as though there must be some SSH setup things that I've missed
07:53
but again, I'm not sure
07:53
<Appiah>
ssh to the client
07:53
troubleshoot , did x start? check X log
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<shawnp0wers>
but in the client itself?
07:54
I'll need to figure out its IP...
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<shawnp0wers>
that's not a problem, but to be honest, I'm not sure if X started or not. :)
07:54
I just get the framebuffer "ubuntu white logo"
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then a black screen
07:54
I'll try to get into the client and poke around
07:54
<Appiah>
thats why
07:54
<alkisg>
Also remove "quiet splash" to better see any boot error messages
07:55
<shawnp0wers>
does everything happen at the cluster server though? That's what I mean by not knowing where to troubleshoot
07:56
<Appiah>
well if it's a thin client not getting to the login screen
07:56
I'm troubleshoot just like I'm not using cluster
07:57
<shawnp0wers>
removing quiet splash from pxe config helped. :)
07:57
hmm...
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<Appiah>
I would , not I'm
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<shawnp0wers>
error connectionrefused, error failed to connect to NBD server
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<alkisg>
And is the nbd server IP there the correct one?
07:58
<shawnp0wers>
it actually doesn't show an IP
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<Appiah>
hostname?
07:58
<shawnp0wers>
no
07:58
wait -- restarting nbd-server on the cluster server...
07:58
could not parse config file: could not open config file
07:59
<ogra>
does ltsp-cluster use nbd-server directly ?
07:59
<shawnp0wers>
uh... should there be something in /etc/nbd-server/ ?
07:59* ogra cant imagine
07:59* shawnp0wers has no idea...
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<ogra>
all ltsp implementations use it through openbsd-inetd ... i would be surprised if the cluster stuff does it differently
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<shawnp0wers>
ahh, gotcha
08:00
I'm not certain how cluster *does* stuff
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<ogra>
check if inetd.conf has nbdrootd entries
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<shawnp0wers>
ie, there is only one chroot, on the server
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<ogra>
and make sure openbsd-inetd was restarted
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<shawnp0wers>
ahh, yes -- it does have those
08:03
hmm... apparently inetd justneeded to be restart
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<shawnp0wers>
I got to the info message about the thin client
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but I have no mouse or keyboard interaction to click "OK"
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<Appiah>
then its working!
08:06
hurray
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<shawnp0wers>
wow, if I hit enter REALLY FAST, I can make the window go away
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then I get an ldm login screen
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unfortunately, when I log in, it just loops back to the little info message
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wait...
08:08
wow, I'm logged in. :)
08:09
and a terminal shows me on an app server
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pretty cool
08:09
Is there any way to make that "info" box go away?
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<Appiah>
yupp
08:10
go to the link that the info box shows
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sort the client into a group
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and it will go away
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<shawnp0wers>
Oh! Awesome.
08:14
sigh... how do I move a computer into a created hardware group?
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<Appiah>
...
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<shawnp0wers>
Appiah: I can only see how to move a computer to the RootNode, and delete it...
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<Appiah>
sorry I dont have the interface in front of me
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<shawnp0wers>
Appiah: I have a general question about cluster -- if the NBD image is only stored on the cluster server, does that create a bandwidth issue as it scales?
08:33
<Appiah>
no idea
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<shawnp0wers>
hehehe, ok.
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<alkisg>
nbd is mostly used on the initial boot only...
08:34
It needs some tens of MB per client booting
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<shawnp0wers>
Particularly with localapps, it seems like 1000 users might cause issues when starting firefox
08:35
because firefox starting via chroot (NBD) would hit the server, no?
08:35
<alkisg>
Yeah, localapps would hit the server
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<shawnp0wers>
Ok.
08:36* shawnp0wers is having the fog lift a little regarding ltsp-cluster
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<shawnp0wers>
:)
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<alkisg>
So ltsp-cluster only uses a single nbd?
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<shawnp0wers>
yes
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only one
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on the server
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that's where I wasn't sure
08:37
if it shared that NBD with the app servers, then THEY in turn reshared it with NBD, it would be a bit more scalable i think
08:37
and maybe that's what happens
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but I'm not sure
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<shawnp0wers>
If my brain is correct, all NBD traffic happens with the main cluster server, and all other traffic pings the application server via SSH
08:38
so for server apps, it scales very well
08:38
but with localapps, there would be some degredation as it scales (even quickly I'd think)
08:39
I might look at the ltsp docs some, to see what the little blurb on load balancing does
08:39
ie, having several full LTSP servers running, but redirect them on boot
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or redirect clients anyway
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<alkisg>
Gadi: ping?
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<Gadi>
pong
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<alkisg>
I tried putting it to rc.d, but I had ghost processes left
09:38
The same when I tried to put it to ldm.c
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<Gadi>
as an Init?
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I00-
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<alkisg>
Hmmm
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<Gadi>
the idea here is that when ldm comes back around to reinit, it initiates the shutdown
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<alkisg>
Ah, you mean X ends, then ldm starts over again, and THEN processes the logout flag?
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<Gadi>
yeah
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<alkisg>
Got it. OK, no problem with me
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<Gadi>
before the greeter comes up
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its like saying "Before I start, was there a requested shutdown or reboot before the last session died?"
09:40
<alkisg>
Gadi: I don't think it's a big change (and I think you're the only one interested :)) so could you please commit that when you have some time,
09:41
<Gadi>
only if you test it
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:)
09:41
<alkisg>
Sure
09:41
...and even report that it works in the gnome bug, so that they accept that patch as well?
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(the maintainer there told me he'd like someone to confirm it works)
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(as he doesn't know about ltsp)
09:41
<Gadi>
well, if you test and tell me it works, thats good enough for me
09:42
Ill play along
09:42* alkisg tries...
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<ogra>
is the xatom still available by then ?
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<alkisg>
ogra: I save the flag to a file
09:42
<ogra>
ah, k
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<Gadi>
ogra: he reads the Xatom at the end of the session and writes to a tmp file
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<ogra>
yup, got it
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<alkisg>
(I don't know if any /var/* location would be better that tmp, I just followed what stgraber did)
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<Gadi>
alkisg: btw, I put exec's in there so that it would stop at the shutdown/reboot
09:43
and not continue to source other stuff
09:43* Gadi thinks stgraber was doing something as an unprivileged user
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<Gadi>
tho, not sure
09:44
if you are not relying on his code ata ll, use /var/run
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instead of /tmp
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<alkisg>
/var/run/ldm?
09:44
Yes, you're right on that (as well)
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<Gadi>
yeah, or just a /var/run/ldm-command
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or something
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<alkisg>
OK, /var/run/ldm-logout-command.
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(since that's also used in the atom)
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<Gadi>
it should hopefully last for all of a second
09:45
;)
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<alkisg>
Heh, yeah
09:45
I just didn't want to propose a file-based patch in gnome-session
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<Gadi>
agreed
09:46
xprop is much safer
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btw, I would clear the xprop once you read it
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just to be safe
09:47
in case, for some reason, /var/run is not writable in the client
09:48
then, you could perhaps have nastiness
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<rjune>
Gadi, !
09:48
<Gadi>
hey, rjune
09:48
<rjune>
how goes it
09:49
<Gadi>
it goes
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<alkisg>
Gadi: why would exec be better?
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<Gadi>
well, exec would kill the sourcing
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<alkisg>
Wouldn't the ldm script then continue with loading the greeter etc while the PC shuts down?
09:54
<Gadi>
no, exec should prevent that
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<alkisg>
Hmm Gadi I also need || true in the end, don't I?
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xprop -root -notype LDM_LOGOUT_ACTION | sed -e 's/^LDM_LOGOUT_ACTION = //' -e 's/^"//' -e 's/"$//' > /var/run/ldm-logout-action || true
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<Gadi>
that would be preferred
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<alkisg>
Gadi: it worked, but I did see X starting before it rebooted/shuted down
10:15
Anyway, good enough for me :)
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<johnny>
me thinks scott is gonna resolve this problem btw..
10:15
in a less hackish way..
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<alkisg>
johnny: you mean dbus?
10:15
<johnny>
yep
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<alkisg>
But ldm still has to know when to shut down
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So the flag should still be there...
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<johnny>
sure.. ldm should also talk to dbus..
10:16
dbus does run on the client now most of the time
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<alkisg>
Well, I'm not too optimistic about this dbus integration being ready for Lucid
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And I think a lot more hacks would be needed there
10:19
Hacks in CK, PK and other packages that use dbus
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<johnny>
i wouldn't call them hacks
10:19
only creating a proper policy
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<alkisg>
CK on the client should ask PK on the server for permission but actually reboot the client, not the server
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I do hope it's cleanly seperated to session/system dbus, but I think it isn't :(
10:22
Anyway, I wanted to have something for Lucid, as it's going to be around for 2 years, and I hope Scott can fix the dbus thing properly in Lucid+1... :-/
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<Gadi>
alkisg: If you like, make a symlink: K99-haltreboot -> I00-haltreboot
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<johnny>
i don't trust ubuntu releases anyways..
10:24
easier to just upgrade to the next one..
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<Gadi>
that *should* make it shutdown/reboot without respawning X if the session cleanly exits
10:24
<johnny>
than HOPE that your needed fix appears
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<alkisg>
Gadi thanks, testing...
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<alkisg>
johnny: for schools here we decided to stick to LTS releases from now on
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So I'd like to do what little I can to make Lucid better :-/
10:25
<johnny>
have fun with that
10:25
i'm just glad i'm not forced into that party
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<alkisg>
Well teachers here that tried to upgrade to Karmic had a lot of problems. 9.04 had a lot less problems for them. And upgrading a school in the middle of the year proved to be too risky...
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<alkisg>
And as Ubuntu doesn't support e.g. 9.04 => 10.04 direct upgrade path, it's easier if we stick to LTS => LTS upgrade paths.
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<johnny>
alkisg, yeah.. only if you wanna stay home during vacations :)
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<johnny>
or holidays whatever..
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<alkisg>
Unfortunately many problems were not seen on the upgrade, but later on, on the usage
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<alkisg>
(problems that didn't exist on the previous version)
10:29
Some months are needed to "settle down", and doing this frequently isn't practical for schools that don't have sysadmins
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<johnny>
sure.. some problesm get fixed, some problems get added..
10:29
lol
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<ogra>
ask the communiy for help with upgrade and pre release testing ;)
10:30
<johnny>
ah.. ogra.. you're still alive.. :)
10:30
<ogra>
in a meeting atm :)
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<johnny>
that doesn't make you not alive.. i hope
10:30
hehe
10:31
only dead on the inside :)
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<Ahmuck-Jr>
ogra, u testing lubuntu?
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<ogra>
nope
10:32
its a community project ... i'm swamped with other stuff
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<johnny>
ogra, when aren't you..
10:33
perhaps we'll meet again at some other point in this life
10:33
and you can laugh at my poor fan..
10:33
that is still just as loud with fedora on it :)
10:34
/me needs a new laptop
10:34
<ogra>
heh
10:34
freescale presented some netbook at UDS but pre-production
10:35
<johnny>
i want some powerful laptop.. but also an arm netbook..
10:37
<Blinny>
++ for LTS->LTS upgrade
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<ogra>
Blinny, thats default :)
10:41
<Blinny>
Cheers
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<sbalneav>
Morning all
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<alkisg>
Damn pidgin, doesn't tell me when I'm disconnected :( Sorry for re-pasting, that's the last I "saw":
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(07:07:32 μμ) alkisg: Gadi: with the K99-haltreboot symlink, I didn't have "flickering" (X restarting), but I had ghost processes
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(07:07:48 μμ) alkisg: X should be stopped when the reboot is called :-/
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(07:08:35 μμ) alkisg: I we don't want to touch the ldm script, I'm OK with just the I00-haltreboot script and a little flickering :)
11:18
<ogra>
use a proper IRC client ! :)
11:18
<alkisg>
I'm using the Ubuntu defaults :D
11:18
<ogra>
pfft
11:18
nobody does that
11:18* ogra hides
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<alkisg>
:D
11:18
<ogra>
use xchat
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<alkisg>
Nah... I like all-in-one clients
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<ogra>
would you use your car to plow a filed ?
11:19
*field
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<alkisg>
Well, it isn't the same like comparing pidgin to xchat
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<ogra>
right, pidgin is worse :)
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<johnny>
ogra, .. i'm using an irc transport
11:21
via my xmpp only client..
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<sbalneav>
irssi, for the win.
11:25
Embrace the terminal.
11:26
<johnny>
irssi isn't a good xmpp client.. so that's out
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<alkisg>
Defaults. They're there for some reason :D
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<sbalneav>
johnny: it's a freaking fantastic irc client, though :)
11:33
Ooo!
11:33
http://cybione.org/~irssi-xmpp/
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<johnny>
yes.. i know about that
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it's still pretty limited tho..
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<sbalneav>
Hmm, I just repackaged the 0.50 version.
11:53
lemme try...
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<sbalneav>
Hm. Well, I seem to be connected.
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<johnny>
sbvwhat i like with xmpp and irc.. is that no matter what computer i connect from.. my nickserv password is saved on the server and gets used
11:55
and my aim, and my facebook, etc..
11:55
so.. whenever i go.. it's all there..
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even if i connect with a web client
11:58
<sbalneav>
ok, well, Imma gonna push this to my ppa anyway :)
11:58* sbalneav is so proud of himself.
11:58
<sbalneav>
I packaged something new and I didn't have to ask for help from ANYBODY!
11:58
<johnny>
magic..
11:58
<sbalneav>
LOOK MA! I'M A BIG BOY NOW!
12:01
OK, uploaded irssi-plugin-xmpp-0.50 to my ppa
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<sbalneav>
http://git.gnome.org/cgit/sabayon/log/
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I now have git commit access to the gnome git repo.
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I'm fully, completely an upstream dev for sabayon now :)
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<vagrantc>
sbalneav: cheers!
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<CAN-o-SPAM>
sbalneav: congrats, so nice to have a project in trusted hands! :)
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<alkisg>
sbalneav: congrats, man! Hope people actually use this :D
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<johnny>
uggh.. what can i do without iotop to figure out what's happening with io :(
16:24
i got some client that stopped working
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looking for bootware.img..
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<ehrenpr>
anyone know how to setup local aps on kiwi-lts 11.2? I used the prebuilt image but after I add flash to sys config, I get errors with rebulding
19:19
Do I need open suse 11.1 dvd? or can I use 11.2 as the install location.
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<vagrantc>
try in #kiwi-ltsp
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<ehrenpr>
No one has responded.
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<johnny>
ehrenpr, there seems to be few people who know how to work with it.. sorry
19:34
it doesn't use the same methods are regular ltsp for rebuilding images.. so we don't know
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<ehrenpr>
thanks for replying, originally I tried Edubuntu, but ran into lots of confusion with the latest build. It doesnt seem as their is alot of documentaion yet. Besides kiwi-ltsp and Edubuntu does anyone recommend a good educational solution, that has lots of support?
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<johnny>
edubuntu should be fine..
19:42
you don't really need alot of documentation
19:42
but all the standard documentation at
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!docs
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<ltspbot>
johnny: "docs" :: For the most current documentation, see https://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/ltsp/index.php?title=Ltsp_LtspDocumentationUpstream
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<johnny>
should apply
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<ehrenpr>
Do you know if their is an easy way to set up a fat client network? I tried nubeas plugin, but it doesnt work with karmic.
19:47
<johnny>
it's part of karmic
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i think
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read the --help or --extra-help of ltsp-build-client
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<ehrenpr>
Thanks, I ll check that ou.
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<sbalneav>
ehrenpr: What were you trying to do wit Edubuntu?
19:53
I'm in there now if you'd like to ask a question.
19:54
#edubuntu
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!flash
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<ltspbot>
sbalneav: "flash" :: Yes, flash sucks. Make sure you have LDM_DIRECTX=True in your lts.conf file, or if it's just youtube you're after, try the HQtube plugin. Install greasemonkey for firefox, and see http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/24999
20:24
<ehrenpr>
anyone familar with kiwi-ltsp?
20:26
<sbalneav>
ehrenpr: The fellow you'll want is cyberorg
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!seen cyberorg
20:26
<ltspbot>
sbalneav: cyberorg was last seen in #ltsp 1 week, 0 days, 15 hours, 10 minutes, and 37 seconds ago: <cyberorg> ftherese, that has nothing to do with ltsp, just follow instructions about network scanning, configure ltsp servers as client for scanner, all ltsp clients will be able to use that
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<sbalneav>
hasn't been about for a week
20:26
but he's the local kiwi-ltsp expert.
20:27
<johnny>
ehrenpr, yes.. we only know 1 person who knows anything about kiwi-ltsp
20:27
you would want to try the forums or something
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<ehrenpr>
Thanks. Is he usually pretty active?
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<johnny>
well.. he's on india time..
20:27
usually active..
20:28
but i don't think yo ucan expect much help on that project if you have to rely on one person for support..
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<ehrenpr>
I know. Its to bad cuse it seems realy great.
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<johnny>
why does it seem greater than regular ltsp?
20:33
<ehrenpr>
Its really easy to setup, and I had no problems with any funny display drivers. Everything just worked. With edubuntu I got confused really quick becuase the edubunt wiki has alot of conflicting info.
20:33
I dont know of any other education builds.
20:34
<sbalneav>
ehrenpr: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP
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that should be *the* place to go for ubuntu ltsp info.
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<GuilhermeCunha>
how to configure auto login with gdm
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in client of ltsp
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<ehrenpr>
I have been to that site a thosand times, but most of the tutorials are for previous versions.
20:36
<johnny>
the ubuntu ltsp docs work too btw
20:36
all the regular ubuntu wiki docs apply
20:36
<GuilhermeCunha>
i'm using ltsp in ubuntu 8.04
20:36
the options in gdm.conf
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<johnny>
there is no gdm
20:36
<GuilhermeCunha>
no have effect
20:36
<johnny>
gdm isn't used of ltsp
20:37
<GuilhermeCunha>
dont work
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:/
20:37
<johnny>
you need to create a file lts.conf in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386
20:37
<GuilhermeCunha>
im read about ldm
20:37
<johnny>
and set
20:37
<GuilhermeCunha>
i need to install the package to configure the auto login ?
20:38
johnny, this file already created
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is a empty file
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<johnny>
[default]
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LDM_AUTOLOGIN=Y
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[put ip or mac of machine here]
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LDM_USERNAME=username
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LDM_PASSWORD=password
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for each user account
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the last 3 lines need to be for each account that is..
20:39
<GuilhermeCunha>
auto login work only ldm ?
20:39
<ehrenpr>
yah, but then when you have autologin enabled how do you shut down the computers?
20:39
<GuilhermeCunha>
?
20:39
<johnny>
ehrenpr, i used timed logins for that
20:39
ehrenpr, altho really.. i just power down the clients hard
20:40
i don't actually shut them down :)
20:40
as they stay up all day
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and then run a cleanup scrip at night
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that kills all the processes
20:40
ehrenpr, but if you used timed autologin, you can get bakc to the screen to shut them down
20:40
<GuilhermeCunha>
????
20:40
<ehrenpr>
thats what I do, but that just seems kind harsh.
20:40
<johnny>
ehrenpr, then the timed solution is good for you
20:40
<GuilhermeCunha>
auto login works only in ldm ?
20:40
<johnny>
let it login after 5 seconds
20:41
GuilhermeCunha, ltsp doesn't use gdm
20:41
it uses ldm
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<ehrenpr>
I dont know how to do timed autologin
20:41
<johnny>
ehrenpr, it's just another lts.conf var, read the ltsp docs
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!docs
20:41
<ltspbot>
johnny: "docs" :: For the most current documentation, see https://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/ltsp/index.php?title=Ltsp_LtspDocumentationUpstream
20:42
<ehrenpr>
So if I setup timed login, then I logout it will go back to the login screen where I can shutdown????
20:42
<johnny>
yes
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<ehrenpr>
thats a great tip. Thanks
20:43
<johnny>
ehrenpr, we do plan to allow shutdown via the standard shutdown on the remote session pusshed back to the remote session
20:43
or even via a seperate menu item.. we're still working on it
20:43
a basic option will be available for lucid.. if we don't get the proper way working
20:44
the proper way.. involves some magic we're not quite sure of yet..
20:44
ehrenpr, it's likely you'll have a menu item to shut down the thin client session if you enable local apps menu items in lucid
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without having to logout of the session
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<ehrenpr>
im not familiar with lucid, is it a script...
20:45
<johnny>
the next version of ubuntu..
20:45
lucid lynx
20:46
<ehrenpr>
got it, that just show my linux ignorance. Im learning quick thou. and at this point with my student computers I have no other choice.
20:48
<johnny>
but the timed autologin hack will tide you over for now
20:49
make sure you use decent passwords for your users..
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<GuilhermeCunha>
the ubuntu ltsp
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use gdm to ltsp clients
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<johnny>
there is no gdm there
20:49
i told you
20:49
it's ldm
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<GuilhermeCunha>
i have installed the system and enviroment today
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and have tested the system
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and the ubuntu 8.04 + ltsp
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use the gdm to login the thin clients
20:52
:/
20:52
and not work the auto login
20:52
:(
20:52
the local machine works
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and the remote not work
20:53
:(
20:53
<johnny>
you DO NOT USE GDM ON THIN CLIENTS
20:53
YOU USE LDM
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<GuilhermeCunha>
default in ubuntu ?
20:54
<johnny>
default every ltsp
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including ubuntu
20:54
<GuilhermeCunha>
or have to install in your hand?
20:54
<johnny>
otherwise you won't get local devices or sound
20:54
it's already there
20:54
<GuilhermeCunha>
strange
20:54
<johnny>
why?
20:55
we invented ldm because it solved a problem gdm doesn't and won't solve
20:55
<GuilhermeCunha>
i have searched in the machine for ldm and not found
20:55
:/
20:55
<sbalneav>
GuilhermeCunha: it's installed in the chroot
20:55
<johnny>
it's only on the thin client chroot
20:55
<sbalneav>
/opt/ltsp/i386
20:55
<johnny>
but why are you searching for it
20:55
<GuilhermeCunha>
even found sites saying that it was necessary to install the hand
20:55
<johnny>
just do what i told you awhile ago
20:55
i gave you the answer way back earlier
20:56
put this in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf
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[default]
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LDM_AUTOLOGIN=Y
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[put ip or mac of machine here]
20:56
LDM_USERNAME=username
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LDM_PASSWORD=password
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do this part for each machine
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[put ip or mac of machine here]
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LDM_USERNAME=username
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LDM_PASSWORD=password
20:57
<GuilhermeCunha>
the ldm im read and this work ...
20:57
i need to whether gdm works ...
20:57
<johnny>
/me goes back to his other work.. bbl
20:58
<GuilhermeCunha>
I am setting up a kiosk for the university and I want the system to login automatically ...
20:59
soon I will have problems with firefox too ... because of the sessions ... present the error that is already running ...
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<johnny>
oh.. kiosk mode.. it's not a thin client anymore then
21:00
you should have mentioned that earlier
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or not the standard or any kind..
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i wonder.. does the kiosk plugin really work anymore
21:00
who tried it last..
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<GuilhermeCunha>
plugin to kiosk ?
21:03
<johnny>
kiosk mode is a plugin
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it is rarely tested
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or used as far as i've seen in this room
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<GuilhermeCunha>
hmmm
21:05
have address in http protocol ?
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<ehrenpr>
anyone get fatclients working with karmic?
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<sbalneav>
GuilhermeCunha: I don't think there's any documentation for the kiosk plugin
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!seen nubae
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<ltspbot>
sbalneav: nubae was last seen in #ltsp 2 weeks, 3 days, 12 hours, 50 minutes, and 4 seconds ago: <nubae> the script should work ok in jaunty and intrepi though
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<GuilhermeCunha>
hmmm
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