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Channel log from 17 December 2006   (all times are UTC)

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<bdole42>
Hello everyone
11:12
<cliebow>
lo
11:20
<bdole42>
I'm having a bit of trouble getting a test LTSP server to show a desktop properly and was wondering if anyone could help. I've been googling and reading the wiki/list with no luck.
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<cliebow>
bdole42: what are you seeing??gray screen?
11:26
<bdole42>
Sort of, it's not the blank gray screen with the X cursor. I can login. Once I login, the gnome initialisation screen appears with "Windows Manager". That eventually goes away, and I am then left with a grey desktop.
11:27
<cliebow>
what distro is this..not sure i cvan help but if you carefully explain one of the other guys may jump in..
11:28
<bdole42>
It's Ubuntu 6.10 server.
11:28
<jammcq>
sounds like you haven't installed the gnome-desktop
11:28
'server' doesn't come with it
11:28
<cliebow>
and the native ltsp ser ver..or ours
11:29
bdole42:see..i wasnt making this up 8~)
11:29
<bdole42>
:)
11:30
<cliebow>
i tghionk i see..that must be local dm..but no desktop on server?
11:31
<bdole42>
Hmm, I know gdm and kdm are installed (and kdm is picked,) but I did not install [k]ubuntu-desktop
11:32
I ran across a list message where an install of kubuntu-desktop on LTSP caused a lot of problems so I did not install it.
11:32* jammcq can't imagine why there'd be any problems
11:33
<jammcq>
ltsp doesn't care what the desktop is
11:35
<bdole42>
<smacks forehead> I don't suppose that a lack of kdesktop wouldn't have anything to do with it?
11:36
<jammcq>
well, sure it could be the problem
11:36
what kind of desktop would you expect to see, if you haven't installed one ?
11:36
you are probably getting the TWM desktop
11:37
<bdole42>
Heh, well now I do get an Ubuntu-themed post-login screen saying "Window Manager", but it's still at the same spot
11:39
I'm still getting used to the various components of X and how they work together
11:52
jammcq - I'll give kubuntu-desktop a shot and see what happens. I can always roll back to a snapshot
11:53
Where can I check to see if TWM is indeed being used?
11:57
When screen_02=shell runs it appears in the upper left corner of the "desktop" with no window, but it does track the mouse correctly.
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12:10* vagrantc is totally puzzled by a bug report against ldm
12:11
<bdole42>
I think you were right jammcq, my .xsession-errors file has "WARNING: No window manager can be found." in it. kubuntu-desktop is just about done so I'll see if that fixes it. Or at least gets me further.
12:12* vagrantc now understands
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<vagrantc>
ogra: so, i see why my code didn't work for you
12:12
ogra: the get_bool code in ldm ... i used "==" where i should have used "="
12:15
<cliebow>
aanyone else com across grub error 16 when attempting daual boot?
12:22
fdisk /dev/hda says for all partitions partiton does not end on a cylinder boundary
12:22
<jammcq>
could it be the 'LBA' vs 'Large Disk' setting in the bios?
12:25
<cliebow>
hmmm..let me look]\
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<cliebow>
cant find anything in this ibm lapto bios to alter
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<cliebow>
cripes:i give uo for this weekend..thought id try a bios update but no floppy drives in anything..im taking a nap
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<bdole42>
jammcq - thanks for the help. I got the LTSP server going on my VMWare test system, and have now migrated it over to my real server, and it's working great. Now to tackle sound and getting Capio's working with it!
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<smatt>
I'm running opensuse 10.2... when I try to build LBE I get "gcc MUST be between 3.2 and 3.4 !!"
21:52
is there an updated .rpm of this project?
21:53
<jammcq>
why do you want to build LBE ?
21:53
<smatt>
because I couldn't find an rpm, so I was going to build from scratch
21:53
<jammcq>
ok, that's not a good way to do it. Just use the .tgz package of the ltsp-utils
21:54
<smatt>
and that installs everything I need?
21:54
<jammcq>
that installs ltspadmin. run ltspadmin, and it will install the rest for you
21:54
<smatt>
ok great, thanks
21:54
<jammcq>
no prob
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<smatt>
this is kinda off topic, but is there any way to push a win32 desktop out without using windows terminal server? the closest thing I found was here: http://silent.gumph.org/content/4/7/071-diskless-windows-pxe.html
22:00* jammcq knows nothing about windows terminal server
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<smatt>
are there any good docs on how to configure wine and windows apps to work on the thin clients?
22:23
the docs i'm looking at on google are pretty old
22:50
where is the kernel file located?
22:51
that I'm supposed to configure dhcpd.conf to use?
22:51
the one in the example is showing a dir named lts, which doesn't exist
22:51
<jammcq>
go look in /tftpboot/lts
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<smatt>
ahh thanks again
23:02
ok I point it there, now PXE says "PXE-E79: NBP is too big to fit in free base memory"
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<jammcq>
ok, you are using PXE, so you need to load the pxelinux.0 file
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NOT the kernel
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pxelinux.0 will then take care of loading the kernel
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<smatt>
ohh ok
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<jammcq>
and... I'm heading to bed, so good luck
23:03
<smatt>
thanks for all your help
23:03
<jammcq>
have fun
23:23
<smatt>
so what should /tftpboot/pxelinux.cfg/default look like?
23:23
can someone cat theirs?
23:28
<vagrantc>
smatt: perhaps this page is useful: http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/PXE
23:29
<smatt>
yes thank you
23:29
<vagrantc>
specifically: http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/PXE#The_config_file_pxelinux_cfg
23:30
there's a lot of good information on the wiki.
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<smatt>
so you have to put the path in quotes?
23:41
do I meant
23:41
<vagrantc>
?
23:42
in dhcpd.conf, yes. if that's what you mean
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<smatt>
no in the default file. i've got: kernel /tftpboot/lts/2.6.17.8-ltsp-1/bzImage-2.6.17.8-ltsp-1
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and it can't find it
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<vagrantc>
probably leave out the "/tftpboot" part.
23:43
most tftp servers run in such a way that the specified path is relative to the root of the tftp dir ...
23:43
i.e., use: kernel /lts/2.6.17.8-ltsp-1/bzImage-2.6.17.8-ltsp-1
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<smatt>
there it goes! thanks a million
23:45
<vagrantc>
not a problem :)
23:48
<smatt>
seems like a good stopping point for the night. :)
23:48
thanks again, goodnight!
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