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Channel log from 6 July 2010   (all times are UTC)

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<map7>
vagrantc, What are the major changes are there to ltsp 5.2.3? or where can I find that information?
01:11
<vagrantc>
pretty minor changes, really
01:11
https://code.launchpad.net/~ltsp-upstream/ltsp/ltsp-trunk
01:22
<dobber>
how do i submit changes ?
01:26
<vagrantc>
could file bugs through launchpad
01:26
and attach patches, or give a URL to a bzr branch to pull from
01:27
<dobber>
well i made a little change in ltsp-update-image and added an option to invoke ltsp-update-kernels
01:27
<vagrantc>
or file bugs with your preferred linux distribution, if they include ltsp...
01:30
<dobber>
can i just email a diff to ltsp-developers mail list ?
01:31
<vagrantc>
sure
01:32
<dobber>
ok i'll rework it a bit
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<vagrantc>
night y'all
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<dobber>
any developer around here ?
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<zeitsofa>
today i try it again. i like to run 2 monitors on a thinclient. how i can realize it?
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<rickogden>
hi all, is it possible to put the lts.conf file in another location?
03:59
<zeitsofa>
rickogden: i'm not really knwo bu i think there is no way ti have the tsl.conf in the tftpd path
04:01
<rickogden>
I actually want the lts out of the tftp path, and put it somewhere else (say a webserver)
04:02
plus I'm not even sure if my current set up is picking it up
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04:21
<nosedrum>
hi everybody !
04:21
i have some question about ltsp pratices
04:22
i have to deploy a new package on 80 ltsp images
04:22
so it's easy by hand with "chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 "
04:22
and apt-get instlal mypackage
04:22
and ltsp-update-image -a i386
04:23
but i want to script the operations for the 80 serer via ssh
04:23
but via ssh when i "chroot /opt/ltsp/i386"
04:24
then i can send my éptg-get" comand in the chroot environement via ssh
04:24
I'm clear ?
04:26
<dobber>
rickogden, why don't you sym link it ?
04:26
<rickogden>
dobber: because it's multiple servers... plus I'd quite like to script the generation of it (if possible)
04:27
I'm already using a horribly non-standard boot setup
04:27
<dobber>
everyone is nonstandard :)
04:28
well, you generate the lts.conf via ltsp-update-image right ?
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<rickogden>
I'm using gpxe + php to generate a dynamic boot script
04:28
<dobber>
aha
04:29
<nosedrum>
anybody have a idea to massive install a package in /opt/ltsp/i386 via ssh ?
04:29
<rickogden>
yeah, pretty long way round, but the only way I've managed to get it to work in this environment
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<dobber>
nosedrum, you want to do this: ssh root@fatserver "chroot /opt/ltsp/i386/ ls /"
04:30
right ?
04:30
<rickogden>
nosedrum: I'm not sure, but if you chroot can you do apt-get or dpkg?
04:31
<nosedrum>
no because ssh didn't see the chroot
04:31
for example ssh root@ltsp_serv "chrptt /opt/ltsp/i386 && apt-get install mypackage" didn't work
04:31
<dobber>
ssh root@fatserver "chroot /opt/ltsp/i386/ apt-get -y install sl"
04:31
Reading package lists...
04:31
it's working
04:31
nosedrum, no no no
04:32
<nosedrum>
without "&&" ?
04:32
<dobber>
dont &&
04:32
&& means "wait for the previous command to return true and continue with the next command"
04:32
<nosedrum>
ok my bad i didn't test without execution verification "&&"
04:33
and my chroot comand never return turue ?
04:33
true*
04:33
<dobber>
it's exit status
04:33
<nosedrum>
ok thx a lot
04:33
i have one more question
04:34
did you have expirience with java applet lag on firefox under ltsp ?
04:34
the respond time is 10x longer from ltsp than a local firefox execution
04:34
<rickogden>
nosedrum: I've had experience with java and firefox lag even without LTSP :P
04:35
<nosedrum>
:D
04:35
<rickogden>
have you considered fatclients (assuming the client is capable)?
04:36
<nosedrum>
i resolv the issue by a local execution of ff+sun-java6-plugin
04:36
by my thinclient is loaded...
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<nosedrum>
i really want to keep my ff execution on ltsp server
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but it's really long , java applets make 20-30 sec to load...
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<nosedrum>
and this lag appear only with java applets websites
04:38
afk 10 min (boss time...)
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<braga>
hello
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<braga>
I have a problem with ltsp, when I boot a workstation they stopped at line: ip-config: eth0 hardware address ::::: mtu 1500 dhcp, ip-config: no response after 180 secs - giving up, /init: .: line 174: can't open /tmp/net-eth0.conf
05:22
anyone help me
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<zeitsofa>
i try to run 2 screens on a thinclient. the client boots but X is starting the screens are black on monitor go into powersave mode. any ideas to fix this issue? lts.conf and xorg.conf (thats the config from thinclient with nativ installed OS) http://nopaste.info/24c3c4ba7c.html
06:01
<rickogden>
zeitsofa: are you running LTSP 5?
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<Leolo_3>
hello everybody
09:16
I would very very much like to know how to set up a compile env for ltsp 4.2.
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<Leolo_3>
I need to use the rtl8168B NIC. aka r8168 driver
09:17
<johnny>
ltsp4 is mostly dead.. few people know how to mess with it anymore
09:17
<Leolo_3>
someone must have at some point. and documented the compile env
09:17
<johnny>
you might get lucky.. but probably not
09:17
try a search engine
09:17
it certainly isn't the people most active in this channel
09:18
<Leolo_3>
:-/
09:18
<johnny>
why would you want ltsp4? how old are your machines?
09:19
<Leolo_3>
i want ltsp4 because that's what's installed.
09:19
<johnny>
installed on what?
09:19
<Leolo_3>
centos 4 and 5
09:20
<johnny>
then you would just find instructions for recompiling a kernel
09:20
<Leolo_3>
....?
09:20
<johnny>
and copying that kernel to the right place
09:21
just look up how to add that driver to centos machines and then copy that kernel into the ltsp chroot kernel director
09:21
<Leolo_3>
that works in ltsp-4?
09:21
<johnny>
hmm?
09:21
i don't see why it wouldnt..
09:22
<Leolo_3>
ltsp's kernel is 2.6.20(+patches), CentOS 5's is 2.6.18(+patches)
09:22
<johnny>
but really.. you'll be saddling your users with really old software :(
09:23
try the mailing list
09:23
!ltsp-discuss
09:23
<ltspbot`>
johnny: "ltsp-discuss" :: at https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/ltsp-discuss
09:23
<johnny>
no success guaranteed tho.. i have no idea when that driver was added
09:23
<Leolo_3>
old software that's worked for years
09:23
the driver isn't "added" it comes from the realtek website
09:24
<johnny>
hmm.. i would never trust drivers that aren't in the kernel
09:24
they always do it wrong :)
09:24
do they provide drivers for your kernel version?
09:24
<Leolo_3>
they provide source code
09:25
<johnny>
so?
09:25
what kerne version does it apply to?
09:25
<Leolo_3>
2.4.20 and up, 2.6.x (according to README)
09:25
<johnny>
then i would suggest looking up generic tutorials then
09:25
it probably wont' be ltsp specific
09:26
or once again.. posting to the mailing list
09:26
<Leolo_3>
if it was just installing a module, i'd have no dificulty
09:26
the LTSP-specific stuff is headers + compiler so the .ko is compatible with the kernel
09:26
<johnny>
i bet the generic instructions work as long as you go into the chroot
09:27
and install the kernel-devel package
09:27
give it a shot
09:27
back up your chroot
09:27
<Leolo_3>
you mean chroot /opt/ltsp-4.2 ?
09:27
<johnny>
yes
09:28
it's a full distro in there, so i don't see why you couldn't
09:28
<Leolo_3>
there's no gcc, for one
09:28
kinda basic, that
09:29
<johnny>
did you try installing one?
09:29
if that doesn't work, then you should definitely contact the list if a google search turns up empty
09:30
i just searched, and stuff comes up right away
09:30
so.. go to it
09:32
<Leolo_3>
stuff I see is for ltsp 5
09:34
<johnny>
i just did
09:34
"ltsp 4.2" compile kernel modules
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<cliebow>
Leolo_3, you need to set up the lbe-linux build environment..jammcq and sbalneav are the masters on this..ive done it..
09:41
ill try to get you the old links..say what they will 4.2 still rocking for me
09:42
<johnny>
aha.. cliebow you're here :)
09:42
<Leolo_3>
yay!
09:42
<johnny>
this is one of those people Leolo_3
09:42
<Leolo_3>
everything I'm reading references parts of the wiki that have been deleted
09:43
<johnny>
as you can see.. he only referenced 2 other people :)
09:43
<Leolo_3>
:-)
09:43
how old is ltsp-4.2? I can't believe that all the corp users jumped to ltsp-5 by now
09:44
<cliebow>
it is still around if i can figger out how to get ot it
09:44
<johnny>
it's not that they have jumped, they just haven't upgraded
09:44
and things work
09:44
ltsp 4.2? uhmm.. not quite sure... maybe 4 or 5 years? 6?
09:45
cliebow, ?
09:47
Leolo_3, 4 years
09:48
<cliebow>
must be 5 years now..i see the new wiki has nothing..i have probably something on paper
09:50
<johnny>
article on linux.com
09:50
Linux Terminal Server Project releases 4.2
09:50
By Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier on April 10, 2006
09:50
<cliebow>
cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@cvs.ltsp.org:/usr/local/cvsroot checkout
09:51
<johnny>
ooh.. cvs :)
09:51
<cliebow>
wonder if that still works
09:51
<johnny>
hah :)
09:51
<Leolo_3>
cvs [checkout aborted]: must specify at least one module or directory
09:52
<cliebow>
Gadi would know..
09:53* Leolo_3 bets cvs.ltsp.org has been reorganised
09:54
<Leolo_3>
Unknown host cvs.ltsp.org.
09:54
or deleted :-(
09:54
ok, imma talk to a few folks. maybe we move to ltsp 5
09:54
<cliebow>
Le:Lyou have "challenged" clients?
09:54
like 32 meg?
09:55
Leolo_3, id suggest asking jammcq..jam at ltsp.org
09:55
<Leolo_3>
no, I don't think anything is taht old.
09:56
I want to install one driver, not do the work of learning to use, setting up, etc etc from 4.2 to 5
09:56
<cliebow>
ask jammcq
09:56
lbe is not trivial
09:57
id bet most of the links build_all uses are broken too
09:57
<Leolo_3>
how not trivial? i've upgraded libc in a running install in the past
09:57
<johnny>
Leolo_3, ltsp wiki got hax0red
09:57
tat's why it was migrated
09:57
<Leolo_3>
and no one had a backup?
09:57
hmmm... maybe the wayback machine
09:58
<cliebow>
jammcq
09:58
or Scottie
09:58
<johnny>
cliebow, then why didn't he restore the contents fully
09:58
if scott had the backup.. i'm sure he would have restored it
09:58
<cliebow>
time i suppose
09:58
<johnny>
he restored some of it..
09:58
perhaps just a tarball of the wiki contents
10:00
<cliebow>
my laptop harddrive "might" have a copy the lappie itself long ago met its maker
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<Leolo_3>
http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/ltsp/www.ltsp.org/cvs.html :-/
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<cliebow>
Leolo_3, hmm wonders where My -s went
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<Leolo_3>
yay! GOT IT TO WORK!
15:50
took a little hacking and some patience, though
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<jammcq>
hey all
18:50
cliebow: ping
18:54
<highvoltage>
hi uncle jim
18:54
<jammcq>
hey Jonathon
18:54
I just created the wiki page for LTSP-BTS-2010
18:54
<highvoltage>
http://jonathancarter.org/how-to-spell-jonathan/
18:55
oh cool!
18:55
<jammcq>
https://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/ltsp/index.php?title=Ltsp_ByTheSea2010
18:55
hahah
18:55
highvoltage: I've read that before
18:55
<highvoltage>
heh :)
18:55
<jammcq>
sorry I messed it up
18:55
<highvoltage>
heh no problem at all, it's kind of meant as a joke anyway :)
18:56
<jammcq>
highvoltage: have you found the beer yet? It's good in Montreal
18:56
although you aren't exactly in Montreal, right?
18:56
<highvoltage>
I did indeed! first night when I was here!
18:57
nope, just a bit south-east- Sherbrooke
18:57
I'll be at BTS! stgraber and I were discussing it just about an hour ago
18:57
<jammcq>
cool
18:58
<highvoltage>
I'm not going to debconf anymore (way too much happening right now) so that will be my first time ever in the US
18:58
(I hope they don't capture me and send me to torture camps)
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<jammcq>
highvoltage: no worries, that was the past administration that was doing that
19:00
<highvoltage>
oh cool. I came across a few people from europe that didn't want to go to debconf for reasons like that
19:00
I also thought that all of that was over... admittingly I'm not that good at following all the details :)
19:00
<jammcq>
heh, we throw a couple people into a camp in Guantanimo, and pretty soon, we've got a bad reputation
19:01
<highvoltage>
you've probably met Petter from debian-edu?
19:02
<jammcq>
the debian-edu guy?
19:02
heh, yeah
19:02
met him in Norway a few years ago
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<highvoltage>
he seriously doensn't want to go to the US because of that. I just figure that if you're an innocent tourist the chances of that happening is probably quite slim
19:02
<jammcq>
maybe he's got something to hide
19:02
<highvoltage>
who knows
19:03
anyway, I'll be happy to be there, can't wait :)
19:03
I'm not a 1337 ltsp developer yet, but I am working on some nice things to get ltsp integrated with ubuntu's gui installer
19:04
<jammcq>
bts is VERY low key
19:04
<highvoltage>
in the last release we can already install ltsp from the livecd, now we're just going to push it up a notch for the next release
19:04
<jammcq>
lots of socializing, and some hacking thrown in, to justify it
19:04
<highvoltage>
great :)
19:05
<johnny>
lobster also
19:05
<highvoltage>
I was thinking of work the whole weekend... and then one of the first items in my feed reader on Monday morning was this: http://dilbert.com/fast/2010-07-05
19:06
it's strange but it did kind of make me feel relaxed
19:06
sorry I was leading somewhere with that but I forgot how it was relevant
19:06
<jammcq>
that's pretty good
19:08
highvoltage: where is your home city? I'm updating the wiki
19:08
<highvoltage>
jammcq: Cape Town
19:08
(although it's Sherbrooke now)
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<jammcq>
yeah, but I'll put cape town on the wiki. sounds more exotic :)
19:09
<highvoltage>
:)
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<highvoltage>
jammcq: Marc Gariépy will also be coming
19:15
<jammcq>
awesome
19:16
all set
19:17
we've got 7 signed up so far
19:17
<highvoltage>
cool!
19:17
<jammcq>
I think last year we ended up with 18
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<giaco>
hello
19:24
I've just discovered LTSP, I'm trying to find out if this is what I'm looking for, I've simple question for you
19:25
<highvoltage>
fire away
19:26
<giaco>
let's say I create an LTSP server on a powerful pc, than I want an old pentium 1 64MB to boot through that server and be able to launch firefox with a java applet, but I want that the "ram used" is on the server
19:26
is it possible? or firefox would be launched on the thin client?
19:27
<jammcq>
giaco: that's a classic case of where LTSP is perfect for you
19:27
<giaco>
what I want is tunneling graphics though X
19:27
oh, yeah!
19:27
:DD
19:27
<jammcq>
what you've described is the default behaviour of LTSP
19:27
although... 64mb is rather slim
19:27
if you go with a lightweight desktop environment, like xfce, you can probably make it work
19:28
<giaco>
but wait, you just said that the memory used is on the server
19:28
<jammcq>
yes, but you still need a kernel and an Xserver
19:28
<giaco>
my server could be a 80 cpu 32 gb ram
19:28
<jammcq>
and those take some ram and cpu
19:28
<giaco>
ok but kernel + X server is much less than 64 mb I think
19:28
<jammcq>
the apps still run on the server, but you do need to get the graphical environment up and running
19:29
<giaco>
I've seen kernel + X on < 4mb ram
19:29
<jammcq>
it's more than just a kerenl and xserver
19:29
<giaco>
oh ... mmm
19:29
I can't figure out the borderline from local stuff and server stuff
19:29
<jammcq>
there's quite a bit of baggage that comes along with it. daemons for audio, local devices
19:30
<giaco>
ok, local services, but the window manager should not be inside this baggage, I think
19:30
<jammcq>
it's not as slim as we'd like
19:30
<giaco>
stuff that runs inside X, I mean
19:30
<jammcq>
right, the window manage runs on the server, but all of the images that get displayed (icons, fonts, backgrounds) are all cached by the Xserver, so they take ram on the client
19:30
<giaco>
ah ok
19:31
<jammcq>
but you can do swapping over the net, which helps alot in low-ram configs
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<jammcq>
we used to do 386's with 16mb of ram, but that was a long time ago. the software has grown a bit since then
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<giaco>
do you mean mounting the swap partition on a NFS or NBD drive?
19:32
<jammcq>
using nbd
19:32
the 2.6 kernels don't support swap over nfs
19:33
<giaco>
well I could use 2.4 .. I don't care much
19:33
well it's what I tell the server to be the thin client, overall
19:33
<jammcq>
ltsp doesn't use the 2.4 kernels. haven't for abou 6 years
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<giaco>
jammcq, ok
19:37
jammcq, well, I will try and see what happens
19:37
<jammcq>
sounds like a plan
19:37
<giaco>
:)
19:38
don't know where I should start. I've seen that ubuntu provides a LTSP server mode installation, maybe there?
19:38
maybe ubuntu it's already big
19:38
<jammcq>
the Ubuntu implementation of LTSP is awesome
19:38
<giaco>
cool
19:42
jammcq, but wait, I've another important question
19:42
let's say we have the same server with the same thin client, the thin client is runninf firefox
19:43
<jammcq>
ok
19:43
<giaco>
let's say that the thin clients clicks on firefox "menu -> print", which pc is going to print? the server, or the client?
19:43
<jammcq>
the server
19:43
the apps are running on the server
19:43
the client is nothing more than an x-terminal
19:44
<giaco>
jammcq, ok
19:44
<korcan>
unless you run localapps :)
19:44
<jammcq>
but... you could plug a printer into the thin client, and configure CUPS on the server to print to it
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<korcan>
giaco: just get network printers, problems solved :)
19:45
<giaco>
korcan, if I push a program into the thin client image, will that be present on the client right? It should be possible somehow to launch locally on the client
19:45
<jammcq>
giaco: yes, we call that "Local Apps"
19:45
<giaco>
korcan, I'm using LTSP to save money, so buying network printers is not a solution :(
19:46
<korcan>
jammcq: is "Remote Apps" working yet? Alex told me it would be soon
19:47
that was a while ago
19:47
<jammcq>
umm, dunno
19:47
<giaco>
I need to know if both "remote apps" and "local apps" are working
19:47
I need them both
19:47
<map7>
giaco remote apps are working
19:47
I have to use a wrapper script to use some programs though
19:48
<giaco>
because I need a remote firefox on low memory pcs, but now I also think that I will need a local app to print to com1 or lpt1
19:48
<jammcq>
remote apps is something a bit different. that's needed if you are running Firefox as a Local app, but then need to launch Acroreader or some other external app, and you want that to run back on the server
19:48
giaco: you don't need a local app for that printing. Ltsp includes the magic plumbing to make that work
19:48
ltsp will make a locally attached printer appear like a network printer
19:49
<korcan>
map7: you have a doc you can point me to?
19:49
<giaco>
jammcq, but 20 lines ago you told me that the server was printing
19:50
<map7>
korcan, not really but I can help you
19:50
I only use remote_apps for opening files in my local apps (ie: firefox and thunderbird)
19:51
<korcan>
map7: you on here alot? I don't have time now... probably won't be until later this month :/
19:51
map7: thats all I need it for...
19:51
<map7>
yeah I'm usually on here.
19:51
<korcan>
so when someone gets an attachment, they can launch the appropriate program
19:51
<map7>
yes
19:51
I can open up openoffice (server app)
19:51
<korcan>
thats all I think most should need it for
19:52
<map7>
I've got one wrapper for pdfs, office documents and multimedia files
19:52
<jammcq>
giaco: the server controls the printing, but the printer can be connected anywhere
19:53
<giaco>
jammcq, I feel some black magic in here, I need to read how it works now, because this will be the core of my installation
19:53
<korcan>
map7: is it something you can email me? I haven't played withit at all
19:53
<jammcq>
giaco: printing?
19:53
<giaco>
jammcq, yez
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<jammcq>
theres a redirector in l tsp. a small process that listens on the network at port 9100, and redirects the data to a printer plugged into a parallel, serial or USB port
19:54
<korcan>
giaco: you doing POS System?
19:54
<jammcq>
so you configure CUPS on the server to print to that workstation at port 9100, and it looks just like a network attached printer
19:54
<giaco>
korcan, really don't know what a POS System is, but maybe
19:54
<jammcq>
really simple and works very well
19:55
<giaco>
jammcq, so every client is running a CUPS server locally, I suppose
19:55
<jammcq>
no
19:55
not a cups server.
19:55
just the redirector, IF there's a printer plugged in
19:56
<giaco>
a socket from 9100 to /dev/ttyS0 for example?
19:56
<jammcq>
the CUPS server is running on the server
19:56
yes, that's the redirector
19:56
it's called 'jetpipe'
19:56
<giaco>
this is really really cool
19:56
my compliments
19:56
<jammcq>
pretends to be a HP Jetdirect interface
19:57
lots of guys here have made it as awesome as it is
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<korcan>
map7: u there?
19:57
<jammcq>
I worked on it up through LTSP-4.2, but over the past 4 years, I've not done any development
19:57
<giaco>
ok but now I need to read how to "install" the printer on the thin client, maybe install is not the right word, how to start that jetpipe
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<Leolo_3>
highvoltage : you're in sherbrooke, qc?
20:11* Leolo_3 is in north hatley, just a tad south
20:11
<Leolo_3>
of sherbie
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<cliebow_>
jammcq:how was Beazil?
20:18
<jammcq>
cliebow_: HEY !!
20:18
it was great, but that was like 2 months ago
20:18
<cliebow_>
hi!!
20:18
<jammcq>
cliebow_: I've created the wiki page for BTS
20:18
<cliebow_>
oh..i thought June
20:19
<Leolo_3>
jammcq : hello. Philip, from e-mail here. Thank you for your help today
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<jammcq>
https://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/ltsp/index.php?title=Ltsp_ByTheSea2010
20:19
no, May 6th
20:19
Leolo_3: hey, glad to hear it worked for you
20:19
<cliebow_>
Cool1..
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<jammcq>
cuz I was just about at my limit of being able to remember how it all works
20:19
<cliebow_>
Leolo_3, Success then?
20:20
i am surprised all the gz were still handy
20:20
<jammcq>
cliebow_: it's all on tds.net
20:20
it's not going anywhere
20:21
<cliebow_>
great..i turned mine off today 8~(
20:21
<jammcq>
oh?
20:21
retired some old stuff?
20:21
<cliebow_>
well 1 to 1 with macbooks..
20:21
with like 40% breakage the first yeasr
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<jammcq>
wow
20:22
<cliebow_>
i am on the proch typing int the dark.Yahy is today's excuse
20:22
Crap
20:23
<jammcq>
heh
20:23
cliebow_: so... you coming to BTS ?
20:23
<cliebow_>
they will see the error in their ways..
20:23
<Leolo_3>
cliebow, jammcq : yep yep. with jammcq's proding, some google-fu and a lot of patience, got a booting kernel w/ the right drivers
20:23
<cliebow_>
not sure...so mich travelling
20:23
<jammcq>
heh
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<cliebow_>
of course..
20:24
<jammcq>
cliebow_: you all moved into that new house?
20:24
<cliebow_>
the phoenix will rise again
20:24
been here a month..still iving out of boxes
20:24
the swh house is rented most of the summer
20:25* jammcq is looking forward to having a beer on your deck
20:25
<cliebow_>
been building cellar walls in preparation to core bond insulate cellar walls
20:26
there have been seals out on the ledges..bald eagles there too...all kinds of of birds
20:26
and the Maine State bird..
20:26
istrying to carry me away
20:26
as we speak......SMACK
20:27
<jammcq>
don't kill it
20:27
<cliebow_>
freaking mosquitoes
20:27
<jammcq>
yep
20:27
<cliebow_>
i have internet from the campground..have to sit out on the porch to connect
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until i can build a router
20:29
i will be sure to have cold beer..have an extra fridge in the cellar
20:29
Leo..So all you needed was the kernel?
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<Leolo_3>
all i needed was the driver
20:33
but i figured it would be simpler to do kernel + extra module then compile a module and see if it worked with an already compiled kernel
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<cliebow_>
Leolo_3, right..
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<Leolo_3>
(simpler, if a lot longer)
20:37
added wrinkle : I had to do the compiling on a 32bit machine, rsync to a 64bit VM for building initramfs, then rsync to the client's server for testing
20:37
<cliebow_>
lbe is knowledge well remembered..
20:38
<giaco>
jammcq, the edubuntu guide says that it can use swap over NBD
20:39
<Leolo_3>
the 32bit machine restriction is strange to me. why can't I compile a 32bit kernel on a 64bit system
20:40
<jammcq>
giaco: yeah, that's what I said
20:42
<giaco>
jammcq, oh, right, I misread nfs for nbd
20:42
nevermind, I'm sorry
20:42
btw, jetpipe is in the edubuntu guide, nice one
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20:46
<cliebow_>
Wow Brazil is well represented
20:46
<jammcq>
yeah, they're crazy about ltsp. it'll be nice to have a couple of them with us
20:47
<cliebow_>
that rocks...any Jonathan Carter as well..not sure i place him
20:47
<jammcq>
he's highvoltage
20:48
you haven't met him yet, but you will
20:48
<cliebow_>
heheh..
20:49
im goin in...for a transfusion....getting esten alive
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<jammcq>
k
20:49
ciao
20:49
<cliebow_>
ill keep an ear to the ground..Nice to dsee you
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