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Channel log from 18 March 2018   (all times are UTC)

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17:28
<cshubhamrao>
Hi!
17:30
<alkisg>
Hello
17:31
<cshubhamrao>
I'm working on my draft for GSoC, rewriting epoptes in Python 3 and PyGObject
17:31* vagrantc waves
17:31
<vagrantc>
cool!
17:32
<cshubhamrao>
I wanted to know a little about the motivation about migration to Python3, apart from the fact that Python 2 is approaching EoL
17:32
<vagrantc>
that's the primary motivation
17:32
<cshubhamrao>
(like what kind of performance improvements, if any are there?)
17:32
<alkisg>
I think that's about it; python2 and gtk2 are going eol...
17:34* vagrantc suspects python2 will probably have unofficial community support for quite some time
17:34
<vagrantc>
but since both gtk2 and python2 are being deprecated...
17:34
may as well switch both
17:34
<cshubhamrao>
yeah!
17:35* vagrantc looks around for phantomas
17:36
<alkisg>
there are no gtk2 bindings for python3
17:36
the mentor hasn't come in irc for years...
17:36* vagrantc knows
17:37
<cshubhamrao>
Taking a glance at the GUI source, GTK3 migration is surely possible in time bound period
17:39
What is the status of Twisted on Python3? Are there any major modules missing?
17:40
By the initial looks, the parts of Twisted epoptes uses, have been ported...
17:42
<vagrantc>
yay
17:44* vagrantc doesn't see a python3-twisted-core package in debian
17:45* vagrantc wonders a bit
17:47
<cshubhamrao>
i thought python3-twisted covers it?
17:48
<vagrantc>
it isn't obvious to me, but i haven't done much more than look at the package relationships
17:49
actually, they basically have the same dependencies ... so yeah :)
17:50
well, as same as python3 and python2 can be
17:50
i sort of had the thought of doing an introduction to epoptes class at a local non-profit i used to work at
17:51
they do all sorts of classes, and it might be a useful tool for them
17:52
<cshubhamrao>
cool!
17:53
just checked opensuse... it has python3-Twisted too
17:54
<vagrantc>
looks to be in ubuntu 16.04 too
17:54
so as long as the pygobject versions are generally compatible, sounds very promising
17:57
looks like python3-gi is available in both debian and ubuntu 16.04
17:57
<cshubhamrao>
whoa cool!
17:58
<alkisg>
Yeah the major problem was twisted,it took a long time to support python 3
17:58
The rest were ready years ago
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20:13
<urly>
Is it possible to get eg cheese running on TC with local usb webcam? If yes then how ? I run Debian9.4 64 server for thin client 32 with localapps
20:24
<alkisg>
urly: localapps can access local cams, sure. Why aren't you using the full fat ltsp mode?
20:24
Which CPU and how much RAM does the client have?
20:29
<urly>
I have many types of clients, so I wish I could use many sizes of clients. My test one now has celeron M maybe 1.7GHz, with 1 or 4Go of memory
20:30* vagrantc would guess they would perform better as ltsp fat clients
20:30
<vagrantc>
certainly for the 4GB systems
20:30
<alkisg>
Usually, when you are able to run localapps, you are able to run fat clients too...
20:33
<urly>
I'm trying to run cheese, and more specifically qstopmotion but I have no device found. Should my user be in fuse group for this purpose ? fuse group is missing even if fuse is installed.
20:34
<alkisg>
Run ltsp-localapps xterm
20:34
On that xterm, run cheese or whatever you want
20:34
If it doesn't run locally there... it doesn't sound like an ltsp issue
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20:44
<urly>
ltsp-localapps xterm breaks my session. So I tried gnome-classic instead of gnome-shell and qstopmotion works with local usb. ltsp-localapps xterm still breaks TC's user's session. Thanks.
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20:46
<vagrantc>
breaks it how?
20:58
<urly>
When I ask for ltsp-localapps xterm in a terminal, the background and the decoration of the terminal disappears and the fisrt fourth square of the screen show a console prompt with my test user "toto" on the TC machine "ltsp20".
20:58
<vagrantc>
impressive.
20:59
<urly>
Then I get the LDM login wizard.
21:06
<alkisg>
urly: gnome-shell is using opengl, and opengl doesn't play well over the network
21:06
It's best to avoid gnome-shell and unity when using thin clients
21:06
Or just switch to ltsp fat clients to avoid all those issues
21:09
<urly>
ok for both
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