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Channel log from 2 April 2013   (all times are UTC)

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12:38
<jammcq>
good morning friends
12:52
<elias_a>
Good afternoon, jammcq!
12:55
<jammcq>
:)
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13:38
<gbaman>
vagrantc it didnt work :)
13:41
vagrantc an error in your guide btw was in this line # edit /boot/commandline.txt:The file is actually called cmdline.txt
13:42
but, the raspberry pi now boots fine and when i log in it now is logged in as pi@ltsp0
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so the ltsp-client stuff is working
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<sbalneav>
Morning all
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13:51
<jammcq>
Scotty !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
13:57* gbaman pokes vagrantc
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15:29
<vagrantc>
gbaman_: that doesn't sound like it is working ... the user should be on the server.
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15:50
<epoptes_user0>
Hi
15:51
i try to use epoptes
15:51
i have this error : epoptes-client ERROR: Failed to fetch certificate from server:789
15:51
for epoptes-client -c
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and for epoptes : Connection with epoptes failed: An error occurred while connecting: 13: Permission non accordée.
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<vagrantc>
gbaman: sounds like you're using the local user rather than the user on the server ...
16:06
<gbaman>
yip, i was
16:06
it couldnt connect to the server
16:07
did your attempt work?
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<vagrantc>
yes, worked like a charm, of course :)
16:07
<gbaman>
sigh
16:07* vagrantc thought the cmdline.txt updates worked
16:07
<gbaman>
i wasnt sure how to add the ssh keys
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<vagrantc>
gbaman: i'm guessing one of the fuzzy not well documented steps went wrong
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<gbaman>
did you get my message about the bug?
16:08
<vagrantc>
yes
16:08
<gbaman>
the cmdline.txt one
16:08
good
16:08
<vagrantc>
gbaman: though next time, tell me the nature of the bug first :)
16:08
<gbaman>
i know, was about to then had to go
16:10
i do know the pi cant access the server
16:10
it complains
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on bootup
16:10
but i am able to ssh from it to the server fine
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<vagrantc>
does it prompt you for key verification?
16:10
<gbaman>
nope
16:10
oh yes
16:10
you mean when i ssh to it?
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*to the server
16:11
yes, it does
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<vagrantc>
that's the problem ...
16:12
you need an /etc/ssh/ssh_known_hosts that contains the line:
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server YOUR_SERVERS_SSH_KEY.pub
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i.e. server <content from /etc/ssh/ssh_host_*.pub>
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one line per key
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<gbaman>
The pi does not have an ssh_known_hosts file
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<vagrantc>
you need to create it
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<gbaman>
k
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<vagrantc>
or, on the server, ltsp-update-sshkeys -export or something like that
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ltsp-update-sshkeys --export -
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that might work
16:14
cut and paste that into your pi.
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hm.
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that seems broken here.
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<gbaman>
which key.pub....
16:16
the rsa one?
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<vagrantc>
gbaman: does your server have ltsp chroots on it?
16:17
<gbaman>
you mean the ltsp-build-client outputs, yes
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<vagrantc>
gbaman: copy one of the /opt/ltsp/*/etc/ssh/ssh_known_hosts to your pi image.
16:18
<gbaman>
k
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16:21
<gbaman>
also, i couldnt find anything for this bit add || true to plymouth line.
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<vagrantc>
gbaman: you need to append "|| true" to the line calling plymouth in /etc/init.d/ltsp-client-core
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<gbaman>
replace /bin/plymouth quit --retain-splash with /bin/plymouth || true
16:24
?
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<gbaman>
rebooted the pi with the ssh key fix and still getting "tftp: sendto: Network is unreachable
16:35
and "Error: socket failed: Network is unreachable"
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<vagrantc>
gbaman: no, just add to the line that's already there.
16:37
gbaman: but yes, that's the line.
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<vagrantc>
anyways, gotta run.
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<gbaman>
...
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<gp>
I am using ltsp on ubuntu andI am having issues with sound and freerdp. I have SCREEN_02="ldm" and then screen 07 set to xfreerdp. The LDM screen has sound, but the xfreerdp screen does not.
16:48
Has anyone dealt with this before?
16:48
Using --plugin drdynvc like freerdp suggests causes the client to crash and never come up
16:49
Didn't know if there is some tip someone could give me to help me get going. Can't get sound on a couple of machines that remote into a windows machine
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<||cw>
gp: it's likely that without pulse or alsa or some other sound system that only ldm OR xfreerdp will be able to play sound
17:00
try not having ldm start? you can always start it manually
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<gp>
i.e. don't add ldm to screen02?
17:02
trying that now
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no luck
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18:31
<gp>
Figured it out
18:31
libfreerdp-plugins-standard wasn't installed in the chroot when I installed freerdp-x11
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so the sound plugin didn't get installed until I ran apt-get install libfreerdp-plugins-standard
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<vagrantc>
do you have recommends disabled?
18:34
or was recommends disabled when you installed freerdp-x11?
18:41
<alkisg1>
ubuntu has recommends disabled in ltsp chroots by default..
18:41
I think stgraber was planning to fix that in later versions
18:42
<gbaman>
it still isnt working vagrantc :)
18:42
<alkisg1>
...but I'm no longer using ubuntu ltsp packages, in favor of debian ones, so I don't know the details there :)
18:44
<gbaman>
vagrantc: the guide has # FIXME: mount the firmware partition, is there a step missing in there?
18:45
<gp>
Here are the commands I ran: http://dpaste.com/1044624/
18:46
After that the --plugin rdpsnd option to xfreerdp started working
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<gp>
Are debian LTSP packages more current than the Ubuntu ones?
18:49
<vagrantc>
yes and no
18:50
depends on which versions you're comparing, though debian wheezy hasn't yet been released.
18:50
and ubuntu 12.10 and newer have newer packages
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<gbaman2>
The errors the pi gives when booting are
19:10
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1122948/temp/Photo%2002-04-2013%2017%2033%2006.jpg
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<vagrantc>
gbaman: yes, anything marked FIXME is something more or less missing
19:10
<gbaman2>
and http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1122948/temp/Photo%2002-04-2013%2017%2032%2033.jpg
19:10
<gp>
vagrantc: thanks i will probably check out 12.10 later. just have a habit of using lts versions
19:11
<gbaman2>
it does look like it cant reach the ltsp server
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<vagrantc>
gp: i use Debian :)
19:11
<gp>
vagrantc: ah. I guess I will be giving debian a shot for ltsp then =)
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<gbaman2>
but as i said a while back, i can ping and ssh to the server...
19:12
weird
19:12
<gp>
anyways... yall have a good afternoon. thanks for the info
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19:16
<gbaman2>
might it be it just does not work on edubuntu?
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<alkisg1>
gbaman2: can you login at that prompt, and then run ltsp-client-core manually, to see where it fails? Might be on plymouth...
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<gbaman2>
and how would one run it manually?
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:)
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<alkisg1>
sh -x /etc/init.d/ltsp-client-core
19:26* gbaman2 remind alkisg1 that gbaman is very new to this
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<gbaman2>
Well, it ran
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and didnt complain much
19:28
but i noticed this
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SERVER=192.168.67.1
19:29
Then below it SERVER=10.0.5.175
19:29
the bottom one is right
19:29
the top one isnt?
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<alkisg1>
What was the last line you saw?
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<gbaman2>
http://pastebin.com/e5G9We5X
19:30
might save you a bit of time :)
19:30
<alkisg1>
pi? you need to be root to run a service
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<gbaman2>
oops
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<alkisg1>
Also, put a "start" parameter
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sh -x /etc/init.d/ltsp-client-core start
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<gbaman2>
ran with sudo and start
19:32
http://pastebin.com/WUeqRrz7
19:32
Still 2 server addresses?
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with the top being wrong
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the server address is 10.0.5.175
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<alkisg1>
Yeah it's that plymouth line that vagrantc fixed a few days ago
19:33
You need to put a || true after that line, inside that script
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/bin/plymouth quit --retain-splash || true
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<gbaman2>
erm, i did....
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nearly sure i had
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<alkisg1>
If you're using NBD, maybe you didn't update the image...
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<gbaman2>
i didnt think it was ever getting that far
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<gbaman2>
on the ltsp server /opt/ltsp/armhf/etc/init.d/ltsp-client-core has that line
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<alkisg1>
On the client?
19:41
<gbaman2>
no, the server
19:42
ha ha!
19:42
it is doing something
19:42
it failed again on reboot
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but fancy that, the file has been changed back to it without the true in it
19:43
hmm
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<alkisg1>
gbaman2: on the client, cat /proc/cmdline
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See if you have anything about nbd there
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If you're using nbd, then you need to run ltsp-update-image
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But do not run ltsp-update-image if you're using nfs, it'll mess up your setup
19:45
<gbaman2>
dma.dmachans=0x7f35 bcm2708_fb.fbwidth=1792 bcm2708_fb.fbheight=984 bcm2708.boardrev=0xf bcm2708.serial=0xedb4dfb smsc95xx.macaddr=B8:27:EB:DB:4D:FB sdhci-bcm2708.emmc_clock_freq=100000000 vc_mem.mem_base=0x1ec00000 vc_mem.mem_size=0x20000000 dwc_otg.lpm_enable=0 console=ttyAMA0,115200 kgdboc=ttyAMA0,115200 console=tty1 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootfstype=ext4 elevator=deadline rootwait init=/sbin/init-ltsp
19:45
Would it be a bad thing if i cant remember if i am using nbd or nfs?
19:46
I thought i was using nbd
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<alkisg1>
Err it appears you're using a local file system
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<gbaman2>
sigh
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<alkisg1>
What's the output of `sudo blkid`?
19:46
<gbaman2>
then why did that file reset on reboot?
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<alkisg1>
Or, `cat /proc/mounts` ?
19:46
Because you're using a cow system (aufs) over the local file system
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(copy on write)
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(i.e. temporary)
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<gbaman2>
http://pastebin.com/CQREQ2YZ
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<alkisg1>
No nbd or nfs there
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<gbaman2>
so it isnt actually working
19:49
sigh
19:49
<alkisg1>
So unless you really want local boot, you need to modify "root=xxx" in your command line
19:49
<gbaman2>
vagrantc?
19:50
vagrantc: Was your guide for an os on the sd card then automount home directory or was it for fat client?
19:51
hit discription of this bit is
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#### Running rpi as an LTSP client off the raspbian image:
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<alkisg1>
Where is that guide?
19:51
<gbaman2>
http://cascadia.debian.net/~vagrant/rpi-ltsp-howto.txt
19:51
still a bt rough
19:51
pi bit is at the bottom
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<alkisg1>
# edit commandline.txt: add init=/sbin/init-ltsp boot=nfs nfsroot=192.168.67.1:/opt/ltsp/armhf delete the root= and rootfstype= entries.
19:52
Did you do those? ^
19:52
<gbaman2>
had not got onto that
19:52
still on
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<alkisg1>
Those parts are done before even installing ltsp-client..
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<gbaman2>
# FIXME: mount the firmware partition
19:54
was waiting for him to fix that bit
19:54
but thought seeing as it was complaining it couldnt connect to the server, that might be a different problem
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<vagrantc>
it's two guides in one ... the first part is for making a thin client, the second for configuring the SD image to emulate a thin client
19:56
<gbaman2>
thats what i thought
19:56
but the second didnt work :)
19:56
<vagrantc>
worked for me
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<alkisg1>
You didn't modify the ltsp-client-core file
19:57
You modified it in the aufs temporary instance
19:57
<gbaman2>
read up a bit, every time i edit the /etc/init.d/ltsp-client-core and reboot it looses it
19:57
<alkisg1>
Not in the real file system
19:57
<gbaman2>
so where is the real file system?
19:57* vagrantc agrees with alkisg1
19:57
<vagrantc>
it's in /rofs
19:57
mount -o remount,rw /rofs
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edit /rofs/etc/init.d/ltsp-client-core
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mount -o remount,ro /rofs
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reboot
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<highvoltage>
greetings good people of ltsp land
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20:08
<gbaman>
right good news and bad news
20:08
I have a really nice looking login screen
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but logins dont work
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i just get no response from server
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but making progress
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<alkisg1>
Switch to SCREEN_02=shell (or anyway login as root locally),
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and try: ssh pi@server
20:12
Don't replace the word "server" there, leave it as is
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Accept the server keys when prompted
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Press alt+ctrl+f7 to switch again to LDM (the login screen), and retry to login
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<vagrantc>
gbaman: probably don't have the right content in /etc/ssh/ssh_known_hosts
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<gbaman>
how do you switch to SCREEN_02=shell?
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<vagrantc>
edit lts.conf
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<gbaman>
oh, ok
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<vagrantc>
but you'll need to do the /rofs trick again
20:21
<gbaman>
so ssh into the pi
20:21
<vagrantc>
well, you could log in on the console as pi and use sudo
20:22
ctrl-alt-f1
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will get you to the console
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<gbaman>
oh
20:22
good to know
20:29
..
20:29
it worked...
20:29
it finally worked...
20:29
it complained a bit
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bit after clicking ok, it loaded lxde
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and mounted my files
20:30* gbaman pats vagrantc and alkisg on the back
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<gbaman>
what is the correct way to add users for ltsp?
20:32
my second user does not work, but it never worked anyway
20:32
<vagrantc>
add them on the server
20:32
<gbaman>
yes, but is there a special way to do it? a nice program?
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<gbaman>
i also get this every time i log on
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https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1122948/temp/Photo%2002-04-2013%2021%2029%2003.jpg
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<vagrantc>
gbaman: i think "adduser username" is nice.
20:37
gbaman: but there's some GUI utility in ubuntu
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<gbaman>
well adduser worked fine
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weird
20:41
i must just have a weird other user
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now, to change the background
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for ldm
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so to make any changes to the base image, i have to ddo the /rofs trick
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<vagrantc>
or power down your pi and put the SD card in another machine
20:45
<gbaman>
true
20:45
also, any idea how to set a template for new users?
20:45
<vagrantc>
really need to figure out berryboot to allow to boot with different boot options
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<gbaman>
e.g. have files already in their home directory
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in every new users home directory
20:47
and berryboot would be very handy
20:47
ability to boot into the local image with this or using your second method, the normal fat client
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