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Channel log from 3 June 2007   (all times are UTC)

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<barni>
hi all
04:39
i have FC6 and i tried to install Mplayer
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but it has no ESD sound daemon support
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what can I do?
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<vagrantc>
try running it with the esddsp wrapper
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<barni>
how can you explain me?
04:42
if i say mplayer -vo help
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there is no esd
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<vagrantc>
so ...
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esddsp mplayer <options>
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<barni>
if it's working is there any way to set up when i use mplayer that to be used with esddsp???
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<vagrantc>
write a wrapper script ...
04:46
<barni>
how and where?
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<vagrantc>
#!/bin/sh
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esddsp mplayer $@
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put it wherever you want.
04:50
<barni>
so, i can create a file and to put this there???
04:50
<vagrantc>
sure
04:53
<barni>
i have created in /usr/local/bin/mplayer.sh with the parameters which you gave
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<vagrantc>
so then you can run the command "mplayer.sh"
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<barni>
and it's not using the esddsp
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<vagrantc>
did it work when you ran it manually ?
04:54
<barni>
but i don't want to call with command
04:55
i want to use the icon from teh "sound and video"
04:55
<vmlintu>
barni: mplayer -ao help
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<barni>
yes, there is no ESD
04:56
<vagrantc>
barni: so create an icon
04:56
<barni>
and if is wanna to use mplayer mozilla plugin?
04:57
<vmlintu>
you can't compile your own version?
04:57
<barni>
yes, maybe
04:58
<vmlintu>
at least the ubuntu versions have esd support compiled in
04:58
<barni>
I have Fedora
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<vmlintu>
what audio output drivers does mplayer -ao help list?
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<barni>
oss, alsa,sdl,mpegpes,null,pcm
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<vmlintu>
so they have turned off all network sound protocols
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<barni>
seems like
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<vmlintu>
I'd compile my own version or use vlc
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<vagrantc>
i guess recent ubuntu uses pulseaudio + alsa so anything that uses alsa works properly.
05:04
<vmlintu>
The easiest way to get media players working with firefox is to use MediaPlayerConnectivity extension: http://membres.lycos.fr/sethnakht/
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with that you could also launch mplayer with esddsp
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<barni>
i tried to cimpile from source and i got this error :
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BGR not supported, please contact the developers
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FATAL: Cannot initialize video driver.
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FATAL: Could not initialize video filters (-vf) or video output (-vo).
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what could be wrong?
05:15* vagrantc would suggest contacting the developers
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<charlie_>
hi all
10:07
<vporo>
vagrantc: you helped me with setting ssh-keys for separate application server. Could I bother you with it again because I was not able to set it up
10:07
<vagrantc>
vporo: ok...
10:08
vporo: what do you have so far?
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<vporo>
I run the cat /etc/ssh/ssh_host_*_key.pub | sed -e 's,^,SERVER ,g' >
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+SERVER.ssh_known_hosts
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on nfs-server
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and changed /etc/ltsp/ssh_known_hosts.extra
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and run ltsp-update-sshkeys
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and just after doing that I thought that this can't be enough
10:11
<vagrantc>
cat /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/ssh/ssh_known_hosts
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<vporo>
should I also copy ssh pub keys to the application server as well?
10:12
<vagrantc>
where is /etc/ltsp/ssh_known_hosts.extra and what does it contain?
10:12
<vporo>
It is on nfs-server
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one line "192.168.2.13"
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or should it be "192.168.2.13.ssh_known_hosts" ?
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<vagrantc>
cat /etc/ltsp/ssh_known_hosts.extra
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<vporo>
it is that one line I just typed
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<vagrantc>
should look something like
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SERVERNAME ssh-rsa AAAAB3NzaC1yc2EAAAABIwAAAQEAzrM2msHSK3QE0CFUN .....
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<vporo>
oh
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so I should insert SERVER.ssh_known_hosts into it?
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<vagrantc>
mv SERVER.ssh_known_hosts /etc/ltsp/ssh_known_hosts.extra
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<vporo>
ok
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<vagrantc>
but you probably want to change SERVER to be the ip address of the server
10:16
<vporo>
yes
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<vagrantc>
but the filename is /etc/ltsp/ssh_known_hosts.extra
10:17* vagrantc cosiders makeing the whole process much simpler
10:17
<vporo>
:)
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<vagrantc>
it was a quick hack to get *something* working
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<vporo>
is there any documentation available. That would help as well
10:18
ok, what then
10:18
so far I have not done anything to the application/login server
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<vagrantc>
the keys were from the application server, no?
10:20
<vporo>
ok. I have separate nfs-server and application server
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<vagrantc>
where did you get the keys that you put into ssh_known_hosts.extra ?
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<vporo>
so I should take the keys from application server to nfs-server?
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<vagrantc>
the nfs-server keys get included automatically.
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<vporo>
from my nfs-server, sry, my bad
10:21
so I will fetch the keys from my apps-server
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<vagrantc>
so get rid of /etc/ltsp/ssh_known_hosts.extra, replace it with the keys from your application server, and re-run ltsp-update-sshkeys
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<vporo>
roger
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<vporo>
vagrantc: works now, thanks
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<vagrantc>
vporo: good :)
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<vporo>
vagrantc: should usb-sticks work in feisty (ltsp5)
11:35
I have ltspfsd in chroot and ltspfs in application server
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and I have enabled localdevices in lts.conf
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<vagrantc>
vporo: is your user in the fuse group ?
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<vporo>
nope
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<vagrantc>
add them to the fuse group
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log out and log back in
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<vporo>
nice
11:46
works
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<EversonCaratti>
sorry by off topic, but i like a prescription of American typical food !
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I am from brazil
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<jammcq>
hmm "American typical food" ?
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<EversonCaratti>
yes ! italian = pizza, american = ?
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<jammcq>
ummm, prolly Hamburgers, hot-dogs, steaks
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<jammcq>
sort of depends on what part of america
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<EversonCaratti>
jammcq, tks, this is true american food ? http://www.kids-cooking-activities.com/American-cooking.html
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<jammcq>
yeah, that looks pretty good
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<EversonCaratti>
jammcq, oh! fine !
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<vagrantc>
ah, america!
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<jammcq>
vagrantc: you still in Madrid?
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<vagrantc>
jammcq: yup.
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jammcq: i leave thursday night.
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<jammcq>
somehow, I have a hunch you will enjoy Madrid more than Scottland
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<vagrantc>
that doesn't bode well.
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<jammcq>
how are you travelling?
15:17* jammcq has never been to Scottland
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<jammcq>
but I enjoyed Spain alot
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or is that Scotland
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<vagrantc>
catch train to paris, train to calais, ferry to dover ... and then train and/or buses to scottland
15:17* vagrantc can't spell anything north of london
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<jammcq>
ah, trains. nice way to travel
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<vagrantc>
it's only like 14 hours from madrid to paris... sure ain't no 3 day long cross-country trip.
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<jammcq>
how's your french ?
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<vagrantc>
habla espanol?
15:19
<jammcq>
heh
15:19
here's a tip for you. Start every conversation with 'Bon Jour'
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<vagrantc>
what's that gonna get me ?
15:21* vagrantc should just act deaf and write numbers and city names
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<jammcq>
vagrantc: if you start the converstation that way, the french people will be very nice to you. if you don't, then you'll get nowhere with them
15:23* vagrantc considers it
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<jammcq>
heh
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<vagrantc>
i hope to spend as little time as possible in french speaking lands...
15:25* jammcq REALLY enjoyed paris last year
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<jammcq>
way more than I expected to
15:26* vagrantc doesn't have time to enjoy anything
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<vagrantc>
except spain, but i'm fucking that up
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<jammcq>
oh?
15:26
stop and smell the roses dude
15:27* vagrantc is homesick for cascadia
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<jammcq>
ah
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beautiful downtown cascadia
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<cliebow_>
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<vagrantc>
hrm. my latest attempt at having a real progress bar in ltsp-client-builder .udeb failed
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this whole stall at 50% and then proceed to 100% was annoying me
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but alas.
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<cliebow_>
ahhh..Traaavel tp England..next Spring if my wife has any say..
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<spiekey>
hello!
16:07
i have a few old clients here...about 800MHz and 128MB Ram. But they have diffrent hardware/chipsets.
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can i assigned a mac address a specific config?
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<cliebow_>
spiekey:sure
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this in ltsp5 on ubuntu?or 6.2?
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heh 4.2
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5 should "just: work
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but boottime will be a litle slsow
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<spiekey>
is this in the wiki somewhere?
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<cliebow_>
must be...ltsp5?
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<cliebow_>
you can use the mac address in lts.conf
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are you mixing ppc and i386?
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<spiekey>
nope, all i386
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<jammcq>
http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LtsConf
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<spiekey>
ah, cool! thanks
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<kaos01>
hi, i like to use glx for my ltsp clients, how do i go about that ?
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<cliebow_>
4.2?
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or 5
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in 4.2 prob
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<kaos01>
4.2
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<cliebow_>
X_DEVICE_OPTION_01 through X_DEVICE_OPTION_10
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Upto 10 device options can be specified for the video device. This is useful if the video chipset requires additional options to function properly.
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<kaos01>
yes but do i need to build it with lbe
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<jammcq>
no
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<kaos01>
the shared so that is
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mmm
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<jammcq>
just set 'X_MODULE_01 = glx'
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<kaos01>
ok
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<jammcq>
that'll tell the Xserver to load the glx module
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<cliebow_>
http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LtsConf
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danke jammcq
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<kaos01>
yes but the glx module must exists, and i cant see the libglx.so
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<jammcq>
it should be there. we supply it in the ltsp packages
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<kaos01>
opps, sorry its tehre :)
17:52
cool
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/ltsp-4.2/i386/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.so
17:53
ok, another question, i like to use LDAP for user information on the clients, any way to do this ?
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<jammcq>
the thin clients don't know anything (or need to know anything) about the users
17:54
if you use LDAP on the server, that's all you need
17:54
<kaos01>
i thought they need for local apps to run
17:54
as one needs to SSH to the client, no ?
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<jammcq>
well, they'll need it if you are running local apps. What are you planning on running?
17:55
<kaos01>
well, iam just toying around at the momment ...
17:55
<jammcq>
but for local apps, alot of the needed stuff isn't packaged for you
17:55
go with server-side apps
17:55
it's way easy
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<cliebow_>
werent ragnar and eric working that a while ago...\
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<kaos01>
yes, i wanted to become familiar with lbe
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<jammcq>
you'd be better off becoming familiar with LTSP-5
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LBE is obsolete
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<cliebow_>
all effort is going to ltsp5
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<kaos01>
mmm, ok but is ltsp5 awailable for fedora ?
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<jammcq>
a tarball of the Ubuntu and debian ltsp-5 is available that can be loaded on any distro
17:57
<cliebow_>
we have an ubuntu tarball.that will work...it is still a workin progress
17:57
<jammcq>
but there's not a Fedora specific ltsp-5 implementation yet
17:57
<cliebow_>
you are quick1
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<kaos01>
thank for the help
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<mistik1>
jammcq: sorry man
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<jammcq>
heh
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<joebaker>
jammcq: Hi. are you up?
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