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Channel log from 15 July 2009   (all times are UTC)

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<amirul_>
Anyone have problems with gnome-screensaver not functioning?
00:35
lock screen throws an error 'XF86VidModeClientNotLocal' Any clues? I'm thinking its trying to run on server display, not the terminal
00:36
Oh, running K12Linux
00:43
<sbalneav>
Do you have "blank_only" set?
00:43
Or are you actually trying to run a graphical screensaver?
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<amirul_>
yes, set from the screensaver applet
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<sbalneav>
Try
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blank only
00:47
For starters, you *really* don't want a graphical screensaver running on a thin client.
00:51
<amirul_>
ok. done blank only. Still crashing with previous error
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<sbalneav>
Well, it's a problem with gnome-screensaver not liking the fact that the display's remote.
00:57
I'd file a bug with K12
00:58
<amirul_>
ok will do. Thanks
01:03
<sbalneav>
Nite all
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<basti122303>
hi @ all ... i have 2 servers .. one is a LTSP-server (it runs -> client can boot from it) and an other server LDAP
03:16
my prblem is that the client's cannot login beause the don't know were the LDAP is ... how is it possible to let the LDSP-server know where the LDAP is ???
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<Q-FUNK>
re
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<cliebow>
Hello Homies!
08:02
<Q-FUNK>
oho
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<highvoltage>
hoedy cliebow
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<cliebow>
highvoltage, good morning
08:10
!
08:11
i see you've taking my typing class
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<highvoltage>
hiehie :)
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<sbalneav_>
Morning all
08:39
Hm
08:39
Why am I _?
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<sbalneav>
that's better
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<cliebow>
morning Scottie...Gadi
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<Q-FUNK>
hey
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<cliebow>
ho
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<sbalneav>
lets go
09:26
<cliebow>
i'm ready
09:27
<sbalneav>
To love you
09:27
I'm ready
09:27
To hold you
09:27
As ready as I'm gonna be
09:27* sbalneav does his best Brian Adams impression
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09:30* CAN-o-SPAM wonders what got in the maple syrup up there ...
09:30
<sbalneav>
You haven't hung around me long enough. I'm one long lyric quoting machine :)
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<sbalneav>
On long car rides, jammcq and I have entire conversations where all we do is just quote lyrics at each other. :)
09:31
brb, meeting
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<rjune_wrk>
sbalneav: I'm not sure you should advertise that
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<CAN-o-SPAM>
haha
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<gekkos>
hi we are using ltsp from lenny. Everything is working fine. Now I try to get local device support in a rdp session. Anyone experiences with this. I have read already a lot of things about it but nothing workable. Many txs
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<Gadi>
gekkos: vagrantc only just recently got this working well in debian - you need the latest ltspfs from bzr
10:01
gekkos: when he gets here, you can ask him if he packaged it yet
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<gekkos>
thanks i will
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<gekkos>
what do you mean 'from bzr' ??
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<Gadi>
gekkos: all of our upstream code is maintained using "bzr" which is a version control system
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<gekkos>
but is this i a way than compatible with lenny?
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<Gadi>
gekkos: https://code.launchpad.net/~ltsp-upstream/ltspfs/ltspfs-trunk
10:05
gekkos: yeah
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<gekkos>
txs
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<Gadi>
our method moving forward for supporting localdevices with rdp is to install ltspfs in the chroot
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so it acts as an automounter
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it will mount the devices in the chroot in /media/root
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<Gadi>
so, you would use: rdesktop -r disk:drives=/media/root ...
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<Gadi>
and get a "drives" share in Windows under which will be folders for the drives
10:07
but, lenny was having issues up until just last week
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with the local mounting
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<gekkos>
gadi: txs I will give it a try tomorrow on a testing server, if I have issues I let you know
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<Gadi>
gekkos: vagrantc may have a .deb to give you
10:09
if you cross paths
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or you can apply the few patches from 0.5.12
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from that page
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<gekkos>
I will ask him
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<Ahmuck-Jr>
hrm, the volume slider on the server now works, but it doesn't adjust the sound at all
10:48
it moves now, but no adjustment
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<k3j0>
hi folks, i have the following Problem: We have a ubuntu 9.04 server which runs ltsp and dhcp. Its a member of our Domain (winbind) - Win2k8-Server which manages the Active-Directory and our Windows PCs and users. Now when we start a thinclient we arent able to login... Maybe one of u has an idea how to deal with it...
11:15
<bieb>
k3j0: I am a noob.. but I am setting up AD authentication also.. I followed these steps and my test students can log in.. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ActiveDirectoryIntegration
11:17
<k3j0>
thank you! ill try it... just wondering how you found it... I searched the last hour and didnt find anything useful, im noob too and now in the holidays redoing our school-network...
11:18
<bieb>
actually.. someone in here gave me that link.. it might have been Gadi
11:18
k3j0: where you from?
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<k3j0>
bieb:germany
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<bieb>
cool
11:19
what part?
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<k3j0>
lower saxony near hannover
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<bieb>
I was in Munchen last summer..
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<k3j0>
if u know it
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<k3j0>
everyone wents to Munich :D
11:20
<bieb>
:D
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<bieb>
I want to get back over there again for a longer duration... see more of the country
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<k3j0>
u should do this :D where are you from?
11:24
<bieb>
Georgia, US
11:25
<k3j0>
ah im planning to travel to the Us with my parents next year
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<bieb>
where to??
11:25
<k3j0>
were not sure yet
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<bieb>
I want to get up to Hesse...
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<k3j0>
im out! going to test your link tomorrow at school
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<bieb>
have a good one.. hope it works for you
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<Ahmuck-Jr>
so, i've used strace b4, etc. i could work on sound this morning if someone is available, to get a more decisive point of failure
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<jammcq>
boa tarde meu amigos!
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<sbalneav>
Ahmuck-Jr: Well, I worked through it last night, I posted my system specs. It was rock solid for me. Both you and mike have, IIRC, 64 bit servers and 32 bit clients. I'm wondering if there's not a intsize bug sitting in Pulse somewhere.
12:35
Hey jammcq
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<jammcq>
sbalneav: howdie Scotty !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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<stgraber>
ogra: ping
12:42
ogra: could you have a look at http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/ltsp-cluster-lbagent when you have a sec ?
12:42
(awaiting a second review before sponsoring)
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<Ahmuck>
sbalneav: i have 32bit server side software on a 64bit proc
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<stgraber>
sbalneav: any progress on ldm ? Alpha3 is due next week and I'll do a general LTSP update before then (did quite a few changes for ltsp itself and some changes in ldm that could be interesting too)
12:56
<sbalneav>
Ahmuck: And you've got pulse issues as well, too, right?
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<Ahmuck-Jr>
yes
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<sbalneav>
stgraber: I had some luck
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<Ahmuck-Jr>
but my server side software, ubuntu ltsp was installed 32 bit
12:57
don't know if that makes a difference
12:57
<stgraber>
sbalneav: would you think it possible to have something working this week ?
12:57
<sbalneav>
stgraber: I can try.
12:57
<stgraber>
I guess there'll be freeze on next Tuesday
12:57
<sbalneav>
OK
12:57
<stgraber>
so will likely upload on Sunday or Monday so I can do some tests and last minute fix before freeze
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<sbalneav>
I'll work on it tonight then. Alice is off for aquacise.
12:58
<stgraber>
great, thanks
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<sbalneav>
Ahmuck: Other than getting access to all your memory (which can be solved by running a -server kernel so PAE's enabled) any reason why you couldn't run a regular 32 bit server?
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<Ahmuck-Jr>
server sound is crashing
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<sbalneav>
So, your sound on the thin clients is crahsing, *and* the sound sitting at the server console is crashing?
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<Ahmuck-Jr>
something strange is going on. i'll tech it out
13:22
but the thin client thing is a normal problem
13:28
<highvoltage>
stgraber: thanks for the ogra-ping :)
13:28
<stgraber>
highvoltage: just did a jordan-ping as well :)
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<ogra>
stgraber, it doesnt mention all copyright holders in debian/copyright
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<stgraber>
ogra: oh, who did I miss ?
13:32
<ogra>
stgraber, the authors from HP ;)
13:32
with util.py you pul in a foreign source file
13:32
*pull
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<stgraber>
ah, right, forgot this one ...
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<ogra>
and you should add a get-orig-source target to debian/rules
13:34
beyond that it looks perfect
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<stgraber>
ogra: hmm, is get-orig-source needed when there's a watch file ?
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<ogra>
i think its good style to have one
13:36
http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/revu1-incoming/uboot-imx-0907132009/uboot-imx-2009.01/debian/rules
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<stgraber>
(I don't think any of the packages I touch have get-orig-source ;))
13:36
<ogra>
just copy paste :)
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<stgraber>
well, that one is because it was repacked ...
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<ogra>
(with porper url and without recompressing indeed)
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what was repacked ?
13:37
lbagent ?
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<stgraber>
I mean, get-orig-source makes sense when upstream is .bz2 or contains a debian directory or similar stuff so you can easily reproduce the .orig.tar.gz
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<stgraber>
didn't think it was needed when upstream is already a clean .tar.gz but anyway, that's easy to add
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<ogra>
get-orig-source simply makes maintenance very easy
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<ogra>
its more convenient for people coming after you and taking over maintenance
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indeed, lintian wont complain if there is a watch file
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but i think its good style to add it to new packages
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<stgraber>
it actually does complain if missing a watch file
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<ogra>
i think it checks for either, if get-orig-source is there it doesnt complain ...
13:40
but i'm not 100% sure
13:40
anyway, since you have to touch it anyway its a good training ;)
13:41
and just a copy/paste job
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<ogra>
tell me if the reworked version is up and i'll give an ACK
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<highvoltage>
stgraber: what does the get-orig-source target do? does it automatically fetch the original tarball so that it doesn't have to be done manually?
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<ogra>
highvoltage, exactly
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<stgraber>
highvoltage: yeah, it does the same as uscan does with the watch file
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they are usually redundant but that won't hurt to have both
14:00
<_UsUrPeR_>
stgraber: I am having some issues with iTalc. You got a second?
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<stgraber>
ogra: hey, what about calling uscan from get-orig-source ?
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ogra: that way, we only need to update the watch file
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<ogra>
hmm, wouldnt you need a dep somewhere for that ?
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or build-dep
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<stgraber>
ogra: btw your example is broken as the upstream version is hardcoded there ...
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<ogra>
thats specific to that package
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<stgraber>
the example on Ubuntu's wiki uses uscan to guess the upstream version, so using uscan for everything should be fine too :)
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https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Examples/ChangingTheOrigTarball
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(the "if you use a watch file" part)
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the UPSTREAM_VERSION is retrieved with uscan, so calling uscan --download will be even better
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<ogra>
yup, looks fine to me
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<stgraber>
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=494141
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btw
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<ogra>
pfft nitpickers
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<stgraber>
last comment contains a good example of using uscan though, will use that one
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<ogra>
yeah, looks very clean
14:15* ogra nevr packages with cdbs
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<stgraber>
it makes packaging so clean ;)
14:16
but doesn't work well with complex stuff though
14:16* ogra is debhelper fan since the beginning
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<stgraber>
well, cdbs generates dh behind :)
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<ogra>
cdbs does a ton of stuff i usually dont need
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<ogra>
if i want my packages as clean as i can do them with direct debhelper calls the rules get way more complex :)
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its just that nobody does that and simply lives with the bloat
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because you dont see it on first sight
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<stgraber>
ogra: btw, do you know what's used on revu for the legal review ?
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<ogra>
no, ask siretart
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<stgraber>
ogra: look at revu now
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<rjune_wrk>
stgraber: hey
14:50
Can you test something for me?
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<stgraber>
rjune_wrk: depends, I'm in a conference lobby so if that doesn't involve access to hardware I probably can
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<rjune_wrk>
it does unfortunately
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<rjune_wrk>
stgraber: was ogra around not so long ago?
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<Lns>
Hey guys, wanted to share a page promoting LTSP / Thin clients in education with you all - feel free to copy the info. I've been working on it the past 3-4 days and have come to the point to where I'm just adding links and touching things up here and there. Hopefully the info can be of use to others. http://logicalnetworking.net/services/ubuntu_ltsp.html
14:58
<_UsUrPeR_>
rjune_wrk: he was on about 45 minutes ago
14:58
stgraber: trying to get italc working with 9.04. It's giving me some issues. Could I pick your brain for a moment?
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<stgraber>
rjune_wrk: yeah
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_UsUrPeR_: well, I'm half around being at a conference ... what's your problem ?
15:00
<_UsUrPeR_>
stgraber: trying to get italc working with 9.04 and a few thinclients. I tried following this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/iTalc . I am not seeing any clients on the server after following these instructions.
15:01
before following the instructions, I was seeing about half the clients that were actually logged in
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<Q-FUNK>
Lns: really nice page
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<Lns>
Q-FUNK: thanks. It's been a long few days of creative writing for me =)
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<Q-FUNK>
it works
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I like it
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<_UsUrPeR_>
I like the flowers :)
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<Lns>
=p Thanks. I got that from some brochures I had printed with similar information.
15:04
I'd love to share those with you all too.. but it's got my company name plastered all over it, it might not be of great general advocacy use
15:05* Lns likes the IBM vid at the bottom the best =)
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<_UsUrPeR_>
that's not that bad. CAN-o-SPAM tattooed disklessworkstations.com on my forehead :(
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<Lns>
ha!
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<Q-FUNK>
doh!
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<Lns>
that musta hurt...long url
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<ogra>
stgraber, ACKed
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<_UsUrPeR_>
strangely enough, I'm getting more ladies because of it. Go figure.
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<Lns>
=p they're thinking thin
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<Q-FUNK>
thin client, fat wallet?
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<_UsUrPeR_>
I am having problems coming up with a punch line for myself
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<stgraber>
highvoltage: uploaded
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<highvoltage>
\o/
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<Q-FUNK>
stgraber: that almost sounded like an album's name
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<rjune_wrk>
Lns: you have Ubuntu, right?
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<Lns>
rjune_wrk: i do have it. I have a few ubuntus actually. ;)
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<rjune_wrk>
Do you have GL working?
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aka, laptop or desktop, not terminal
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<Lns>
rjune_wrk: I believe so, yeah - at home
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<rjune_wrk>
LOL
15:19* Lns eats his own dog food at work ;)
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<rjune_wrk>
Mmm
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http://www.bravegnuworld.com/~rjune/rolling_sine or http://www.bravegnuworld.com/~rjune/rolling_sine.cc for source
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q, w, W, r, R, s, S are valid commands
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<Lns>
oh noes! a leenux virus
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i'll have to check that out later
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<rjune_wrk>
Should run on your terminal too, but you'll want to hit 'w' right away to turn on wireframe mode
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<Lns>
rjune_wrk: heh...i hit Q and it kicked me out of my session
15:29
awesome visual though! trippy dippy
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<rjune_wrk>
well, yea, q and esc quit
15:32
did you play with r and s?
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<Lns>
rjune_wrk: no it kicked me out of my whole gnome session ;)
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<rjune_wrk>
oh dag
15:35
sorry mate
15:36
Not had that happen
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<Lns>
no, haven't tried the others - need to take care of some things
15:36
no worries =)
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17:14* class1 has a eth127
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<class1>
nick-jr, no sound
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20 sec, no sound
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<class1>
is there a method or proceedure i can "tech" this. some tools?
18:04
something that will catch it when it dies, etc.?
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<Lockeian>
Anyone around?
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<Ryan52>
nope
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<Ahmuck-Jr>
Lockeian: what's going on?
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<sbalneav>
Evening all
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<class1>
wild ... switch user on server, and rythmbox quit. the it suddenly started up on it's own and is playing now
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