IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 18 November 2012   (all times are UTC)

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04:25
<alkisg>
vagrantc: sorry some works came up for the weekend, so I'll have to delay fixing the bashisms for a few days
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13:24
<nfh>
Hello,
13:24
I have a question :)
13:25
if you change the ltsp server's ip address
13:25
is there any configuration that have to change in ltsp's root directory ?
13:26
(I already have added the ssh public key in /etc/ssh/ssh_known_hosts, but when I boot the thin-client, it doesn't start X session)
13:43
<knipwim>
nfh: http://wiki.ltsp.org/wiki/Tips_and_Tricks#Update_Server_IP
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<nfh>
knipwim, thank you!
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13:56
<knipwim>
np
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14:15
<nfh>
did anyone test boot from a usb stick and connect over openvpn to the LTSP server ?
14:16
is it possible ?
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16:43
<nfh>
can I boot thin-client from a usb flash ?
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17:59
<ltspuser_67>
hi
18:00
i want to know about ltsp will work on suse enterprise server 11
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18:00
<ltspuser_67>
any one there
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18:02
<vagrantc>
ltspuser_67: patience...
18:02
ltspuser_67: suse has it's own thing, called kiwi-ltsp, which uses some ltsp code, but is kind of it's own thing
18:03
ltspuser_67: there's a #kiwi-ltsp channel, although i hear complaints that it's not very active.
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18:05* kleewyck is stuck! I had a Edubutu version of LTSp running but after upgrading to 12.04 of Edubutu my HP t5700 won't boot, says they need PAE. How do I remove pae from the kernel that gets loaded to the thin clients?
18:14
<vagrantc>
kleewyck: you need to install a different kernel package in the chroot
18:14
ubuntu 12.04 still supports non-pae systems... ?
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18:15
<kleewyck>
You wouldn't know the name of the package it seems generic now built with pae.
18:16
<vagrantc>
kleewyck: there's linux-image-generic and linux-image-generic-pae ...
18:16
kleewyck: you probably want linux-image-generic
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<kleewyck>
humm
18:18
<vagrantc>
kleewyck: i just looked at the difference between the -generic and -generic-pae kernels in precise yesterday, though i didn't confirm that the -generic booted on non-PAE systems, the configuration file they used suggested that the -generic didn't have PAE enabled..
18:18
<kleewyck>
root@fbclts-server:/# dpkg --get-selections | grep linux-image
18:18
linux-image-3.0.0-12-generic install
18:18
linux-image-generic install
18:18
<vagrantc>
kleewyck: what exactly is saying you need PAE, and what's the exact error message?
18:19
<kleewyck>
Kernel requires the following feature not present on CPU: pae
18:19
<ltspuser_67>
any one know the solution for diskless client for suse enterprise server 11
18:19
<vagrantc>
kleewyck: are you sure you're booting the -generic kernel?
18:20
<kleewyck>
Ahhh there's the rub.
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18:20
<kleewyck>
it's loading pxelinux default
18:20
<vagrantc>
ltspuser_67: try: http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:KIWI-LTSP
18:22
ltspuser_67: that's for opensuse, no idea if it's supported on suse enterprise server 11
18:22
kleewyck: do you have multiple kernels installed?
18:23
<kleewyck>
the dhcp root-path is /opt/ltsp/i386
18:23
in /opt/ltsp/i386/boot
18:23
looks to only be *Generic
18:25
<vagrantc>
what's in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386 or /srv/tftp/... ?
18:26
<kleewyck>
yes... just looking there now!
18:26
:)
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18:27
<kleewyck>
thanks vagrantc I think there's something funky with the tftp directory
18:27
totally forgot that there was stuff there.
18:27
<vagrantc>
sudo ltsp-update-kernels
18:27
hopefully that'll clear it up
18:28
also, is your dhcp server handing out the correct path to pxelinux.0?
18:29
<kleewyck>
I think so ... I checked but I should double check that again ..
18:29
good catch
18:29
<vagrantc>
i.e. is it pointing to some other file with some other configuration
18:33
<knipwim>
Nov 18 19:32:20 coruscant nbd_server[4309]: connect from 192.168.0.11, assigned file is /opt/ltsp/images/i686-dev.img
18:33
it's working!
18:33
nbdboot on Gentoo!
18:44
vagrantc: i'm looking at your request for /etc/nbd-server/config
18:44
was this solved in the debian package?
18:57
<vagrantc>
knipwim: which reques?
18:57
there's now /etc/nbd-server/config that includes /etc/nbd-server/conf.d/*.conf by default
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<vagrantc>
knipwim: congrats on NBDroot on gentoo!
18:59
knipwim: do you need to convince your NBD maintainer to do something similar with the conf.d bits?
19:02
<knipwim>
yeah, the problem is gentoo's nbd has no rc script, and no default /etc/nbd-server/config file
19:02
i meant this one http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=671911
19:09
<ltspuser_67>
any one know what will i use for diskless client on suse enterprise 11 server
19:09
please help
19:10
any one working on SELS 11
19:10
please let me know i need some help
19:11
<knipwim>
have you checked #kiwi-ltsp?
19:11
<ltspuser_67>
dont know will it be working on SELS 11 or not
19:13
<knipwim>
the people currently awake and here don't know
19:13
but some suse ltsp folk hang around here
19:28
<nfh>
cat I boot ltsp client from usb flash ?
19:29
i created a chroot there with ltsp-build-client and installed and configured grub there
19:30
but when I boot from that usb flash
19:30
the system boots but doesn't start X session on the ltsp server
19:30
do you have an idea why?
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<ltspuser_52>
Hello?
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<vagrantc>
ltspuser_67: honestly, you'll probably have better luck running Ubuntu or Debian if you want LTSP support
19:51
nfh: so you've installed the LTSP chroot onto a usb stick?
19:52
nfh: does it present you with a GUI login screen?
19:52
nfh: most likely, it didn't detect what the server is, because you're not booted from the network, so it has no idea what server to talk to.
19:53
<nfh>
it doesn't present GUI login scren
19:53
<vagrantc>
just a console login?
19:53
<nfh>
yes
19:53
<vagrantc>
what's the hostname?
19:53
i.e. does it say: (none) login:
19:53
<nfh>
(none) or something like this
19:54
yes
19:54
<vagrantc>
nfh: what distro?
19:54
<nfh>
debian
19:54
<vagrantc>
nfh: what are the boot arguments you've passed it?
19:54
<nfh>
in the grub, right ?
19:54
<vagrantc>
nfh: what version of debian?
19:54
nfh: yeah, in grub
19:54
<nfh>
wheezy
19:55
<vagrantc>
nfh: you'll need, at the very least, init=/sbin/init-ltsp
19:55
<nfh>
initrd /boot/initrd.img-3.2.0-4-amd64 ip=192.168.30.22:192.168.30.1:192.168.30.1:255.255.255.0
19:56
i tried with this
19:56
and without ip=
19:58
<vagrantc>
nfh: could you post tthe chroot's /etc/default/grub to a pastebin?
19:58
!tell nfh pastebin
19:58
!pastebin | nfh
19:58
<ltsp>
Error: "nfh" is not a valid command.
19:58
<vagrantc>
!pastebin
19:58
<ltsp>
pastebin: the LTSP pastebin is at http://ltsp.pastebin.com. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebin, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. Don't forget to paste the URL of the text here.
19:59
<vagrantc>
nfh: also the chroot's /boot/grub/grub.cfg
20:02
nfh: note that this is a very unconventional setup, and documenting what you've done would be much appreciated :)
20:02
<nfh>
:) ok
20:03
http://pastebin.com/ncPD9pZJ
20:05
<vagrantc>
nfh: you'll need: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="init=/sbin/init-ltsp" and then re-run update-grub: ltsp-chrooot update-grub
20:05
<nfh>
http://pastebin.com/m0by7jQ4
20:06
<vagrantc>
nfh: with grub, the commandline options go on the kernel line, not the initrd line
20:07
but update-grub should handle that if you put it in /etc/default/grub
20:07
<nfh>
I will do that:
20:08
mount -t proc /proc/ /mnt/proc/
20:08
mount -o dev /dev/ /mnt/dev/
20:08
-o bind*
20:08
chroot /mnt
20:08
update-grub2
20:08
and install-grub /dev/sd*
20:11
vagrantc, (bow)
20:11
thank you!
20:11
it is working :)
20:13
<vagrantc>
nfh: you still may need to configure lts.conf or other settings to get the correct server information.
20:18
<nfh>
vagrantc, now the thin client is truing to connect to different ip address
20:18
do you know where is the placeI have to configure it ?
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20:20
<vagrantc>
!lts.conf
20:20
<ltsp>
lts.conf: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/lts.conf
20:21
<vagrantc>
you probably want to set LDM_SERVER in lts.conf
20:21
nfh: not quite sure the best way to configure it with your setup... you could edit the lts.conf in the image directly, probably.
20:22
but it's also possible to put it in a tftp dir that it downloads at boot... though not sure if that will work booting from USB
20:31
<nfh>
it doesn't work with LDM_SERVER=
20:32
I needed to add nad SERVER=
20:32
and now I am able to connect ;)
20:32
so now, I am planing to test that over the vpn from a remote location
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<vagrantc>
bzr-rebase is so nice.
21:34* gvy just uses git rebase (almost) daily
21:35
<gvy>
the "Solving The Tangled Working Copy Problem With Git's Index" part of http://tomayko.com/writings/the-thing-about-git was quite useful to adopt
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<vagrantc>
yes, git does it better, but bzr-rebase is nice for projects that long ago decided to stick with bzr :)
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<vagrantc>
meh. NBD support on wheezy seems to possibly be broken... :(
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<vagrantc>
or it was just a fluke... NBD works fine... again.