IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 17 September 2014   (all times are UTC)

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05:58
<Linson>
i am new to ltsp...my enviornment is one good pc build for ltsp sever with ups-battery connected....10 clients (old pc) no ups, directly to ac power..assume edubuntu runs on server and 10 clients run from it and working on clients...suddenly power fails.10 clients power gone but ltsp server is runing....when power come backs can i configure to resume datas or working programs on clients?
06:00
<alkisg>
No, xorg doesn't support that, so ltsp doesn't support it either
06:00
You could do that with x2go, but it would be slower than ltsp/xorg
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06:03
<Linson>
slower means will it have big difference on speed?....x2go is it like a package install on ltsp server pc?
06:05
<alkisg>
It's a different method to access the server, you can use it even from windows PCs without ltsp
06:05
E.g. with ltsp you can watch videos fine, while with x2go you'll see dropped frames
06:05
!x2go
06:05
<ltsp>
x2go: x2go is an NX-based suite of applications that allow logging in to a remote X server from any OS. It's much more efficient than VNC over slow network. More info: http://www.x2go.org/
06:06
<alkisg>
If you really really need the ability to "resume sessions", only then try x2go
06:06
Otherwise stick with normal ltsp
06:06
<Linson>
ok thank you
06:06
<alkisg>
(x2go is very good for remotely accessing the server though, e.g. from home
06:07
You can install that for this ^ reason if you want...
06:14
<vagrantc>
i think the rdp support in ldm also does resumed sessions...
06:14
with xrdp
06:26
<Linson>
i also hav one more question,i have edubuntu ltsp server installed.username (ltspadmin) is me,i need to add more user accounts for my studdents with their name as username.the number is near 300.do i have any shortcut or i go to user account under sys settings and one by one?
06:27
<alkisg>
That's not related to ltsp, you can ask it in #edubuntu or in #ubuntu
06:28
here we developed a tool for that, http://ts.sch.gr/mediawiki/images/d/df/Epoptes_mass_create_users_dim.png
06:29
unfortunately it's greek-only for now
06:29
This one's a better picture: http://ts.sch.gr/mediawiki/images/f/f8/Epoptes_mass_create_users.png
06:29
You just define the classes names and the number of PCs...
06:35
<Linson>
thanks
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08:02
<rickogden>
bennabiy: is “LOCALDEV=True” what appearings in ltsp_config_env? For some reason it’s not in mine but when I do getltspcfg -a it’s listed there.
08:03
Still get “Not Authorized” when I try to mount a USB drive though :/
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08:32
<alkisg>
rickogden: not all variables are saved in that file
08:33
Are you using thin or fat clients?
08:34
<rickogden>
fat clients
08:35
if it’s not meant to be in that file, that’s fine, I just wanted to rule that out as a cause of this, as it used to be working.
08:39
<alkisg>
fat clients handle localdevs normally, not through ltsp/lts.conf
08:39
So there's no point in mentioning LOCALDEV at all, that's for thin clients
08:39
Login as a user in the sudo group, then plug in the drive and see what happens
08:39
<rickogden>
alkisg: that’s useful to know, thanks.
08:40
alkisg: it works when you manually mount it as root, but not automatically as a sudo user.
08:41
<alkisg>
What's the output of `lsblk` there?
08:41
In that usb device?
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08:47
<rickogden>
alkisg: It's listed there as /dev/sdb1
08:48
<maxtrax>
Hi, I have this same problem but i am running on lubuntu 14.04: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2207625 can't login no matter what
08:49
<alkisg>
rickogden: please give what I ask, not what you think I want...
08:51
maxtrax: can you login if you select the xterm session from ldm?
08:51
<rickogden>
alkisg: My apologies. Here: http://pastebin.com/9wW9zDEX
08:53
<alkisg>
rickogden: nice, now please remove the stick, run `id; udevadm monitor` inside the user session (as user, not as root), and plug in the stick
08:53
Then pastebin that result
08:54
<maxtrax>
alkisg: yes i can, but there's no gui of course
08:54
<alkisg>
maxtrax: nice, moment...
08:54
!accelerated
08:54
<ltsp>
Error: "accelerated" is not a valid command.
08:54
<maxtrax>
ok
08:55
<alkisg>
maxtrax: do this: grep ^Exec /usr/share/xsessions/lubuntu.desktop
08:55
What's the result?
08:56
<rickogden>
alkisg: pastebin.com/9LPL0ctN
08:57
<maxtrax>
alkisg: Exec=/usr/bin/lxsession -l Lubuntu -e LXDE
08:58
sorry, -s Lubuntu -e LXDE
08:58
<alkisg>
maxtrax: this is an ltsp bug, I'd like to solve it properly instead of giving you a workaround, but I'm a bit busy (on/off of the keyboard) now, so it'll take e.g. 30 minutes,
08:58
...are you available for that?
08:59
rickogden: and after all that, you're still not seeing /dev/sdb1 in /proc/mounts?
08:59
<maxtrax>
yeah, thank you! :)
08:59
<alkisg>
maxtrax: ok, give me about 10minutes to close a few loose ends...
09:00
<maxtrax>
alkisg: sure, take your time
09:00
<rickogden>
alkisg: Afraid not. grep sdb1 /proc/mounts returns a blank.
09:03
<alkisg>
rickogden: 12.04?
09:03
<rickogden>
alkisg: Yes.
09:04
<alkisg>
udisks --mount /dev/sdb1
09:04
Does that work?
09:04
(no root involved)
09:05
<rickogden>
"Mount failed: Not Authorized"
09:07
<alkisg>
OK, it needs more troubleshooting
09:07
bb in a few minutes
09:07
<rickogden>
alkisg: No problem. Thanks for your help.
09:22
<alkisg>
Sorry guys too much work atm, let's postpone it for tomorrow
09:25
<rickogden>
alkisg: That's fine, I'll see if I can do more digging in the mean time.
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15:19
<kb8wmc>
how do I pass my Ubuntu 12.04 Mate Desktop to the clients instead of the Ubuntu Desktop (Unity)??
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15:29
<JuJuBee>
Why aren't the users session selections persisting? Every day the students have to switch to xubuntu from the default of unity.
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15:48
<vagrantc>
JuJuBee: is it getting written to the user's ~/.dmrc file?
15:52
<JuJuBee>
Let me check... no file with that name in their home dir
15:52
<vagrantc>
for some reason LDM is not writing that file...
15:53
<JuJuBee>
Fix?
15:54
<vagrantc>
figure out what "some reason" is :)
15:54
<||cw2>
fat or thin?
15:55
could be that it tries to write that file before the user home dir is available?
15:58
<vagrantc>
JuJuBee: workaround might be to set the default session with update-alternatives
15:58
JuJuBee: sudo update-alternatives --config x-session-manager
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16:01
<vagrantc>
||cw2: that doesn't seem likely... the code generaes the file on the client and then copies to the server
16:01
<JuJuBee>
I am using fat clients
16:02
<vagrantc>
with ssh based auth and homedirs?
16:02
<JuJuBee>
not entirely sure at the moment.
16:03
Home dirs use FSTAB_0 directive to get them via nfs from another server
16:03
<vagrantc>
ok, that explains it
16:04
does the ltsp server alo have the homedirs mounted via nfs?
16:04
<JuJuBee>
no
16:04
<vagrantc>
is there a ~/.dmrc in the server's homedirs?
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<vagrantc>
i guess that actually should still work either way...
16:05
it's been a while since i looked at the dmrc processing code...
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16:10
<JuJuBee>
vagrantc: on the fileserver not the ltsp server?
16:11
No there is no file there
16:12
<vagrantc>
JuJuBee: have you specified LDM_SERVER ?
16:15
JuJuBee: just as an experiment...
16:16
JuJuBee: if you disable the homedir mounting with FSTAB_XX ... does it work?
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<JuJuBee>
where do I specify LDM_SERVER?
16:36
I will check the disabling fstab statement in a while. Students are working now.
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17:47
<JuJuBee>
vagrantc: I commented the fstab_0 line in lts.conf and logged in as a user. I deleted the .dmrc file logged out and changed sessions and logged in. No .dmrc file in my home
17:53
<vagrantc>
did you select a different session?
17:53
<JuJuBee>
Yes
17:54
<vagrantc>
so there was a .dmrc file ... on which server?
17:54
<JuJuBee>
On the ltsp server ( i logged in with the account I log into the server with, not a student account)
17:56
<vagrantc>
do you also log in to that server locally?
17:56
<JuJuBee>
yes
17:56
<vagrantc>
i.e. did something else create the .dmrc file?
17:56
<JuJuBee>
Yes
17:57
so i removed it
17:57
then tested ltsp login
17:57
<vagrantc>
right
17:57
<JuJuBee>
did not create the file again
17:58
Am I better off letting the ltsp server mount /home from remote server using fstab instead of specifying in lts.conf?
17:58
<vagrantc>
JuJuBee: could you pastebn the output of ltsp-info?
17:59
!pastebin | echo JuJuBee
17:59
<ltsp>
JuJuBee pastebin: the LTSP pastebin is at http://ltsp.pastebin.com. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebin, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. Don't forget to paste the URL of the text here.
17:59
<vagrantc>
JuJuBee: no, you should be fine.
17:59
not sure exactly what's going on, but there were some changes to .dmrc processing not long after ubuntu 12.04 was released
18:00
<JuJuBee>
http://pastebin.com/MTaug7Tb
18:00
<vagrantc>
but looks like you're running 14.04
18:00
<JuJuBee>
yes
18:00
on server and client
18:01
<vagrantc>
so, you're running the current code...
18:01
<JuJuBee>
yes
18:02
<vagrantc>
JuJuBee: i guess you could try editing /opt/ltsp/amd64/usr/share/ldm/rc.d/X50-dmrc-processing and add some debugging info
18:02
you'd need to rebuild the image after every change to that file
18:03
<JuJuBee>
I guess It might be easier to have students create the file with the settings they want. Since there is a bug in unity (no gear to logout)
18:04
<vagrantc>
well, it really should work...
18:04
if it's not working, there's a bug somewhere...
18:04
<JuJuBee>
debugging the process is a bit over my head.
18:08
<vagrantc>
JuJuBee: also, you should be able to set the default session with update-alternatives
18:08
JuJuBee: sudo ltsp-chroot update-alternatives --config x-session-manager
18:08
JuJuBee: and then rebuild the image
18:09
<JuJuBee>
Does that set the default session to use xubuntu/xfce ?
18:11
Ah, I see how it works...
18:11
Cool
18:15
<vagrantc>
it allows you to set it to whatever you want
18:16
hopefully it works for you...
18:17
<JuJuBee>
I will find out tomorrow when students are back. Thanks vagrantc
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18:52
<kb8wmc>
how do I pass my Ubuntu 12.04 Mate Desktop to the clients instead of the Ubuntu Desktop (Unity)??
18:52
<alkisg>
!flashback
18:52
<ltsp>
Error: "flashback" is not a valid command.
18:52
<alkisg>
!fallback
18:52
<ltsp>
I do not know about 'fallback', but I do know about these similar topics: 'gnome-fallback'
18:52
<alkisg>
!gnome-fallback
18:52
<ltsp>
gnome-fallback: Unity, compiz etc are sometimes slow or buggy. To select gnome-fallback as your default session, install the gnome-session-fallback package, and put this in your lts.conf: LDM_SESSION="gnome-session --session=gnome-fallback"
18:53
<alkisg>
Meh
18:53
Anyway, see the session name in /usr/share/xsessions/, and put it in LDM_SESSION in lts.conf
18:54
<kb8wmc>
thanks, will give it a whirl....
18:56
<alkisg>
E.g. LDM_SESSION=mate-desktop, without the .desktop extension, if that's its name...
18:56
i mean if it's named mate-desktop.desktop...
18:58
<kb8wmc>
ok...will check
19:00
yes, it is called mate.desktop.desktop
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19:01
<kb8wmc>
or maybe more properly "mate.desktop" and the extension is called .desktop
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19:02
<kb8wmc>
anyway, will try it out, you have pointed me in the right direction for now
19:22
I keep getting errors Socket, connection refused
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<kb8wmc>
!mate
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Error: "mate" is not a valid command.
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