IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 19 April 2012   (all times are UTC)

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03:31
<sbalneav>
Evening all
03:32
<muppis>
Very sleepy morning.
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05:26* DIoX|DaZ mornin :)
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06:33
<mealstrom>
hi, is there a fix for apparmor and cups ? it is arguing on "/rofs/*" directory
06:37
and second one is how to add smb printer via lts.conf ?
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07:43
<mealstrom>
this fixes apparmor problem with cupsd in ubuntu
07:43
sudo ln -s /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.cupsd /etc/apparmor.d/disable/
07:43
sudo apparmor_parser -R /etc/apparmor.d/usr.sbin.cupsd
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12:07
<dobber>
http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/ltsp/index.php?title=Ltsp_WirelessLtsp
12:07
does anyone know where can i find this wireless_ltsp tgz
12:12
<ogra_>
note that wireless ltsp would be highly insecure (you spread the key in cleartext across all your network, you could as well use a totally unencrypted network)
12:13
<dobber>
it's kind of hard to make it work anyways
12:14
<ogra_>
yeah, and seriously only something for doing a demo
12:14
you dont want that in a production env
12:15
<dobber>
well then, how do i run a remote ltsp client
12:15
where i can't pxe boot
12:17
<ogra_>
use etherboot/gpxe
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12:17
<dobber>
how
12:18
<ogra_>
how would you use a wlan tarball ?
12:18
i assume somehow loacally installed ?
12:18
<dobber>
i need to give usb sticks to co-workers so they can work from home office
12:18
<ogra_>
so inmstead get an etherboot or gpxe image and install that ... that makes a machine netboot
12:19
<dobber>
they are fat clients on the usb sticks
12:19
but all personal files are stored on the central ltsp server
12:20
personal computers of my co-workers may be connected to unknown network - anything from ethernet+ dhcp, pppoe, wifi
12:22
i see that ltsp clients use /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/init-premount/udhcp script to bring up the network (ethernet+dhcp) witch works fine for local installation
12:24
it would work with remote installation when i setup vpn after this step
12:24
but the udhcp script does not detect pppoe/wifi networks
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12:27
<dobber>
I tried to replace udhcpc with something like wicd-curses (a curses network manager) but it's too hard/broken/strange to configure this in initrd
12:30
<ogra_>
yes, you would need a lot more than just wicd
12:32
<dobber>
yes. dbus, upstart, python etc etc
12:33
and i'm just a services admin, not a distribution developer :)
12:33
<ogra_>
which makes you end up with a 20M initrd or so
12:33
<dobber>
well the size is not a problem
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12:42
<ganeshkumar>
Hi! everyone, I've one problem in ubuntu ltsp can anyone solve that.
12:46
This is my problem, If anyone interested to solve it, please do me a favour.
12:46
I've made ltsp ubuntu 10.04 LTS setup. I unable to make it as FAT Client.
12:46
FAT Client ( Every user will have different X, cron jobs, etc in a tmpfs ).
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<ganeshkumar>
Now I have ubuntu hardy FAT setup which is working fine as expected.
12:56
But I unable to do that in ubuntu Lucid. I followed the same steps as I have done for hardy.
12:56
But it has some problems ( Single cron for all user, permission for devices like audio device, printer is not set for individual user, etc ., )
12:56
Can anyone solve this problem
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13:03
<||cw>
ganeshkumar: there's been a lot of improvements in the last few months, you should try the 12.04 beta too
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<ganeshkumar>
will it solve the problem?
13:18
thanks for your reply
13:19
<||cw>
it might, depends on exactly what the problem is
13:19
<ganeshkumar>
why I've asked means I thought it requires some configuration changes.
13:21
<||cw>
every major version upgrade of pretty much anything is going to require some form of config change
13:21
<ganeshkumar>
if you are not understand my problem please ask questions to understand.
13:21
I ready to answer
13:22
<||cw>
I've not personally done fat clients, and have only use ltsp on 10.04, and your description is extremely vague, so I'm not going to be much help. the people I think would be more help won't be on for a couple hours
13:23
<dead_inside>
whats your problem ganeshkumar
13:24
<ganeshkumar>
I've Ubuntu 10.04 LTSP setup.
13:24
I need to create FAT Client Setup.
13:24
How can I do that
13:25
<dead_inside>
have you ever setup a thin client before?
13:25
<ganeshkumar>
yes
13:25
<dead_inside>
add --fat-client
13:25
to the ltsp-build-client command
13:26
so for example:
13:26
ltsp-build-client --arch amd64 --chroot x64-r1 --fat-client --fat-client-desktop gnome-session-fallback --prompt-rootpass
13:26
thats it...
13:26
<ganeshkumar>
thanks. I will try this and tell you.
13:26
How can I get the options help for ltsp-build-client command in ubuntu 10.04
13:27
<dead_inside>
ltsp-build-client --extra-help
13:27
i believe
13:29
<ganeshkumar>
thanks a lot.
13:29
<dead_inside>
np
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<roasted>
Hey fellas
14:58
Question - when a client goes to log in, does anything get written to disk? Such as /tmp, etc?
14:59
I just had a small server max the hdd space (3 MB free) due to some x-session-log error that was 60GB+ in size for one of the student profiles.
14:59
I deleted it, rebooted the client, rebooted the server, no dice. It just says "no response from server" when you go to log in
14:59
LTSP is bound to the Windows domain via Likewise Open. Local login works (administrator) but no others work.
15:00
hmm, looks like a domain user wont log in to the actual server either
15:00
might need to rebind
15:04
<dead_inside>
yes on login stuff gets writen to the hard drive but usually the users home directory
15:04
<roasted>
but the user profile already exists
15:04
from a prior login
15:04
that's why I was questioning if /tmp gets hit up or anything
15:04
but I'm not sure that's the issue
15:05
<dead_inside>
can you ssh to the server?
15:05
<roasted>
I think the domain is the issue here as the domain users cannot log in (even on the actual server) while local logins can (administrator, etc)
15:05
dead_inside: ehh, not sure. When I say "I" I actually mean my buddy. He took my old job at my last school district that I set up LTSP servers for. :P
15:05
dead_inside: he's rebinding it now. Pretty sure that's all it is.
15:05
dead_inside: it's a Windows domain environment there... they've had some issues with the domain controllers lately.
15:05
<dead_inside>
oh
15:06
windows is good at causing problems
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<roasted>
ahahhaa
15:15
that's what it was
15:15
rebinding it fixed it
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17:41
<Hyperbyte>
highvoltage stgraber
17:41
<knipwim>
meeting time for the site :)
17:41
<stgraber>
Hyperbyte: won't make it sorry, in two meetings already and haven't eaten anything yet :(
17:43
<highvoltage>
hey Hyperbyte
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<knipwim>
highvoltage stgraber can you do the meeting next friday? same time?
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<highvoltage>
knipwim: I guess it should be fine for me, but it's the day after ubuntu release so stgraber might be a bit burnt
18:13
<knipwim>
check
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<stgraber>
I took that Friday (27th) as a day off so I'm unlikely to be around
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18:46
<talntid>
root@ltsp1:~# ltsp-update-sshkeys
18:46
WARNING: /opt/ltsp/i386_w_localapps/etc/ssh not found. skipping...
18:46
mine is not with localapps...
18:52
<vagrantc>
talntid: do you have an /opt/ltsp/i386_w_localapps directory?
18:52
talntid: what's in /opt/ltsp/ ?
18:54
<talntid>
i386 i386_w_localapps images
18:54
<vagrantc>
ltsp-update-sshkeys merely looks at /opt/ltsp/ and looks for directories that contain etc/ssh/ and tries to update keys there.
18:54
<talntid>
the folder has the chroot stuff in it, too. both i386 and localapps
18:55
gotcha
18:55
<vagrantc>
you know where your i386_w_localapps dir came from?
18:55
<talntid>
I recently did a ltsp-build-image
18:55
<vagrantc>
it's not a usual name for an ltsp dir.
18:56
<talntid>
I think it's been there a long time..
18:57
the only one in images/ is an i386.img
18:57
the only -real- issue is....
18:58
on login, I get password accepted, it tries to go to desktop, then drops me back out on the login screen..
19:00
http://pastebin.com/wYXd0LDu
19:05
must be an account issue. another account logged in fine
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