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Channel log from 26 August 2008   (all times are UTC)

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<vpxavier>
hello all, could any of you tell me how to install ltsp on a network with an existing Windows DHCP server? Thanks
02:05
nobody?
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<laga>
i believe there is some documentation for that somewhere. maybe ask a search engine?
02:06
or go to ltsp.org
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<cyberorg>
vpxavier, if that dhcp server supports option root-path, next-server parameters configure to point it to ltsp server
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<Pascal_1>
Bonjour
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<moldy>
hi
03:11
i want to create a "kiosk"/"guest" user account
03:11
the problem is that being logged in multiple items leads to problems with some applications (especially firefox)
03:12
is there a good way to solve this? maybe put the user's home on a tmpfs or something like that?
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<johnny>
i just created a user per computer
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<moldy>
that is what i would like to avoid :-/
03:21
<johnny>
gave them host names based on the computer
03:21
why?
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<moldy>
johnny: how do your users know which username to use?
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<johnny>
there is a kiosk plugin for ubuntu
03:21
they don't.. there's just a guest login button
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<moldy>
johnny: how did you configure this?
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i.e. how does the computer know which username to login?
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<johnny>
dhcp gives them the hostname based on the mac address
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and then i create a user for each of those
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<moldy>
on the server, right?
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<johnny>
LDM_ALLOW_GUEST=Y
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that parameter is in my lts.conf
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yes , on the server
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and then i just wrote a little script that empties out all the directories and kills the processes.. as well as pass down the ssh keys
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<moldy>
are you running LTSP 5?
03:24
<johnny>
yes
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<moldy>
what exactly does LDM_ALLOW_GUEST do?
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<johnny>
i just kill everything over night
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and start the user accounts over
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<moldy>
the "emtpying" or "locking down" of the account is not my problem at the moment
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<johnny>
it allows users to login with hostname/hostname
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<moldy>
johnny: ah, ok
03:25
johnny: and ldm knows its hostname from the local environment?
03:25
<johnny>
yes
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<moldy>
johnny: that sounds great, i will try this
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<johnny>
if you don't want the full gnome desktop tho
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you could try the kiosk plugin
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<moldy>
i probably want the full desktop
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<johnny>
i know i do..
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<moldy>
i still think for keeping $HOME clean, the best method is to use a unionfs with a tmpfs... but that's not my main problem :)
03:27
thanks alot, johnny
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<johnny>
we have one homeless guy who comes in.. and works on his website via our computer, even uses the gimp
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<moldy>
we have alot of kids that do all kinds of stuff
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<johnny>
i don't think your way would work.. the processes cannot run as the same user
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gnome wouldn't like it..
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and firefox would out and out hate it
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moldy, just in case..
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http://www.localmomentum.net/~johnny/scripts/prep_terminals.sh
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that's the script i run nightly
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<moldy_>
hi :)
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johnny: one question: after specifying LDM_ALLOW_GUEST = Y, what do i have to do to see the guest login possibility on the client?
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<johnny>
that's all iirc/
03:40
which version are you using?
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i think that only works in hardy
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<moldy_>
johnny: ouch.
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<johnny>
i guess i wouldn't use any earlier version
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<moldy_>
oh never mind
03:42
i am using hardy
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(i thought hardy was the earlier version :) )
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yeah i am on hardy
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<johnny>
that's all you need in lts.conf
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<moldy_>
it goes in the [default] section?
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<johnny>
yes
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if you want it to be automatic..
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yes :)
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<moldy_>
where is the guest button supposed to appear?
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<johnny>
underneath the normal login button
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<moldy_>
hm
03:46
i never had a login button
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<cyberorg>
why dont you use something like "LDM_USERNAME = guest LDM_PASSWORD = xyz LDM_AUTOLOGIN = True
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<johnny>
cyberorg, i don't think firefox would like that ..
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<moldy_>
cyberorg: i don't think it does what i want. also, i was not yet able to find any decent documentation on all the lts.conf parameters...
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<cyberorg>
johnny, why? ldm logs you in normally doesn't it?
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<johnny>
moldy, they are all in a file in the chroot.. lts-parameters
03:47
cyberorg, are you suggesting that for multiple users logging into the same account?
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<moldy_>
cyberorg: i need users to be able to chose a username, complete autologin is *not* what i am looking for
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<cyberorg>
johnny, nope, each terminal can have their own lts.conf with different accounts
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<moldy_>
johnny: can you maybe point me to a screenshot of your ldm?
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<cyberorg>
moldy, ah ok
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<johnny>
cyberorg, .. yes.. but this way you don't have to manage all of it in lts.conf.. just your dhcp server
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<moldy_>
my problem seems to be that my lts.conf is having no effect at all...
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also, i have the suspicion that johnny has a differnet ldm than i do?
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<johnny>
i'm not near my install.. it's 4:48am
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i would doubt that moldy
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<cyberorg>
moldy, may be you are changing a wrong lts.conf :)
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<moldy_>
i don't have any login button at all... just a field "username" that changes to "password" when i hit enter
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johnny: ah ok
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<johnny>
we can prove it tho
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<moldy_>
cyberorg: /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf is the one i am editing
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<cyberorg>
moldy, hmm, seems right
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<johnny>
what does this say ? apt-cache policy ldm
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Version table:
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5.0.40~bzr20080212-0ubuntu4 0
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500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hardy/main Packages
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<moldy_>
if /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf exists, is that one used? do i need to delete it?
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5.0.40~bzr20080212-0ubuntu4
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<johnny>
you're supposed to be able to override the internal one, so you dont have to rebuild the nbd image every time you edit it
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<moldy_>
ok, same ldm
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if /etc/lts.conf on the client should contain a copy of the server-side lts.conf, then it is not working in my case
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<johnny>
you could try editing that one and rebuilding the image
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to see if that is the problem or not
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<moldy_>
johnny: what i am currently trying is deleting it and rebuilding the image
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<johnny>
make sure it gets it's own [default]
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you don't have to do that..
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it needs to exist so it can use
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use it*
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so copy your edited one there
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and then run ltsp-update-image
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<moldy_>
hm
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i can do that, but i wonder why the new location isn't working
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there must be a reason for that
04:00
rebuilding the image right now :)
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hmm, the documentation in usr/share/doc/ltsp-client-core/examples/lts-parameters.txt.gz is incomplete?
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does not mention e.g. LDM_ALLOW_GUEST
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<johnny>
it slipped under the radar during the runup to release
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<moldy_>
ah ok
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<johnny>
like.. almost last minute it felt like
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<moldy_>
when i have my setup finally running, i will see if i can contribute some trivial missing documentation like that :)
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johnny: i see the button now :)
04:03
login fails though -- do i need to run ltsp-update-sshkeys?
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or wait -- i need to create the user accounts on the server, right?
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<johnny>
yes
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<moldy_>
ok, makes sense
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<johnny>
and of course.. attach the mac address to a host name
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via your dhcp server
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<moldy_>
yep, done that
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<johnny>
i originally started with hostname/hostname .. but then somebody logged into one of the relatively unprivileged user accounts remotely and installed an irc bouncer
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<moldy_>
johnny: it works. nice, thank you.
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<johnny>
so.. instead i gave them all crazy generated passwords and used my script i mentioned earlier to populate them with ssh keys from the server so they could login
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which searches all the users in the terminals group and then kills all their processes, unmounts gvfs mounts, empties the home directories, and then copies the ssh keys from the server
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<moldy_>
hi again :)
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<Colvile_>
How can I calculate, how much I need power on ltsp server
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<ogra>
for noal desktops like gnome or kde use 128M per session plus 256M for running the server itself
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*normal
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xfce should be fine with about 100M
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so if you have ten connected users on a server running gnome as desktops 1.5-2G are a fine number
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<Colvile_>
prosessor...?
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<ogra>
i'd go with some kind of dual core for such a setup
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CPU is not as important as ram on a inux machine
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unless all your users do numbe crunching or some such :)
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for usual office use a standard dual core should be fine
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<ogra>
if you fear its not powerful enugh or plan to have more users take a quad Xeon or so
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but Ram is more important ...
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<Nubae>
ram and gigabits
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jejeje, people always forget the gigabits
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if u like video of course
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<ogra>
yeah, gigabit from server to switch makes sense ... from switch to clinet you are fine with 100M
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so get a switch with one gigabit port to connect the server to
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<Nubae>
i sorta just threw an opinion without not knowing much about the conversation, glad I was right!
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well, meant I should have read more before blurting...
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anyways... ogra... back from Nepal and OLPC
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<Nubae>
gonna concentrate on fat ltsp client... lets see if I can get some kind of script into intrepid
06:49
has anything been done on local apps yet for intrepid?
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<ogra>
the infrastructure is there, i'm packaging it today or tomorrow
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<Nubae>
oh wow... then maybe fat client is no longer needed
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<ogra>
its not ready yet, targeted for intrepid+1
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infrastructure doesnt mean its proper yet
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<Nubae>
ok, so it still makes sense to tighten up a little script for intrepid that creates a fat system that is not too configurable?
06:57
anyway, will certainly love to be around to test local apps stuff
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<ogra>
well, fat clients always make sense regardless of localapps
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<Nubae>
ogra: they certainly do at the school where I'll be working at... I havent stopped with olpc, just need a paid job too
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<Nubae>
unfortunately, volunteering for a staying stipend just isnt realistic
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but I did see the conditions, and what the educaction demons are
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<Nubae>
so I think the trip was worthwhile and I will continue to help on working on the XS server (albeit perhaps as ubuntu server instead of
07:31
Fedora
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) that is the big debate right now
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<ogra>
what release would they use ?
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8.04 LTS ?
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<Nubae>
it would make sense
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but since only 20% of what they really wanna do has been done
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it doesnt really matter
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Martin Langhoff, XS devel head, estimates about 20% is complete
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does it really matter then to go with LTS?
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might as well go with intrepid.... right now its with fedora 7
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lol
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<ogra>
well, ubuntu definately makes sense if you look for a long term alternative since 8.04 will be supported until 2011 for the desktop and recieve bugfixes and security updates
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(2013 for servers in case you dont use desktop apps)
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<Nubae>
right it will be headless
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so that would be the infrastructure... but the question is, how much it would fracture and become its own distro
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<ogra>
headless doesnt say anything about the apps you use, onyl abotu the HW :)
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<Nubae>
I would hope not
07:36
ok ok... ure thinking thin clients... but think xos...
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<ogra>
so their own desktop on top of ubuntu ltsp
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<Nubae>
maybe that is a possibility
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<ogra>
ltsp in itself is suported like a desktop though
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<Nubae>
the first stage would be to port the XS scripts
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<ogra>
since it relies on desktop pieces
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<Nubae>
things like dns setups, networking scripts, etc to ubuntu/debian
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<ogra>
that would surely help
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<Nubae>
right now there is a haphassard list of config files they call xs-config
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<ogra>
did you try o talk to #ubuntu-motu about that to find intrested devs ?
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<Nubae>
which when u run it, makes all the fedora based networking and dns based scripting junk
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its already happening on the XS devel list
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it would be just more fire, but if you think its an idea... I do know the XS server and what has been done till now really well
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<ogra>
finding motus is happening on the xs list ??
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<Nubae>
since I believe the uruguay and nepal ones are the only ones deployed
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well, there are already ubuntu devs involved in talking about which scripts are required to be rewritten and such
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so the choice has already been made to do it... just not the volume of the switch...
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ie... will all future XS servers be ubuntu
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will it be a fork
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<ogra>
ah
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<Nubae>
lets see if I can summarise the last that was said about this all so u get an idea
07:44
many parts of the XS server arch. are distro independent... things like edublog
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, moodle
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offline moodle (my pet project that I need web dev volunteers for)
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dans, shorewall, or iptables in general, etc.
07:46* ogra shudders about shorewall
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<ogra>
ufw ftw :)
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<Nubae>
well ok its probably overkill but we thought about it iń terms of using tc
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<ogra>
and dans has licensing issues ... though i dont think you distribute it on CD, right ?
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<Nubae>
we need traffic shaping badly
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XS is so young, it hasnt even been distributed in it yet, we did a custom version, cause port 8080 was already beeing used by idmgr
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the beauty of hindsight
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the only t8ing
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t8ing/thing
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that really has been done on the XS and is essential is ejabberd
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<Nubae>
everything else is inconsequential and easily repackagable, redoable, better integratable.... whatever
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anyway... just to keep on track... pia and a sameer versa (2 ubuntu devs I believe) asked for which packages were XS specific to begin the ubuntu version
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and did so quite admantly, so I think its gonna happen for sure
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ejabberd runs far better on debian anyway (imho)
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oh... and the xo laptops already run quite nicely on debian under the skin instead of fedora
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In my opinion, more devs would jump in and help if it were debian/ubuntu based
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but there is the argument to be made that at this point... if its just 20% finished... whats the point?
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<ogra>
well, a call on the ubuntu-motu mailinglist might get you more people involved
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i dont know pia or sameer versa
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<Nubae>
sooooo... to cut a long story short or thin or whatever, Nepal wants me to continue working on the XS... but at this point, since I wanna be more involved in the ltsp side of the story again
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and I feel like ubuntu is my real home
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I'll offer to help working on it, IF they turn their XS into a buntu XS
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I think I'll do what u suggest
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what direction should I take with the message in your opinion?
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I'm subscribed but I dont wanna make a burning man
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<Nubae>
uruguay's XS server was apparently debian based from the beginning
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but this is what Langhoff has to say about the entire issue "
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...but I'll note again: XS is currently 20% done. A port to ubuntu
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will take significant work and lead you to... 20% done. So far 20%
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done feels like a lot of people screaming about 80% that isn't there
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yet. Not a place where I want to be in; let's move forward."
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oops... sorry for the flood
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and the unrelated topic
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shit, long as they dont make a stupid move like XP or vista (yes.... it could happen) I dont so much mind
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<Nubae>
ogra: u still there or am I talking to myself?
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<ogra>
partially here
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i'm very busy with work (which doesnt include ltsp anymore)
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<Nubae>
ah k... sorry to be taking up your time... just value your opinions a lot... I'll go through some past motu posts and see how they were written
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<_thomas__>
Hi, someone could please tell me if there is a way to boot ltsp from a netware boot capable nic?
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<Nubae>
_thomas__: which nic
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<_thomas__>
Nubae: a sis900 onboard
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<Nubae>
lspci|grep eth
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<_thomas__>
Nubae, no linux instaled on client, no even a hd or cdrom to boot something
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Nubae: thanks for helping, but i will buy a cheap nic with better support :)
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<Nubae>
ok, sec... lets check if sis900 is listed at rom-o-matic
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<_thomas__>
Nubae guess the problem is the nic itself, it try to boot, but stop at the nfs
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the nfs server stop after a few seconds of boot
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<Nubae>
sometimes its easy to build a rom file, but having remote bootable cheap nic is always better
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<_thomas__>
all other stations work fine
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<Nubae>
then sounds i
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like buying a self loading ltsp ethernet card is gonna save u time and energy
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<_thomas__>
Nubae: i'll take a rtl8139D, very cheap, and have lots of floppy with rom for it here.
08:27
thanks for the help
08:28* ogra would suggest a PXE capable card ... no nee for roms there
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<sbalneav>
Morning all
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<ogra>
!s
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<ltspbot>
ogra: "s" is Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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<sbalneav>
Mornin' ogra!
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<jammcq>
g'morning friends
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<sbalneav>
Morning jammcq!
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<jammcq>
Scotty !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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<sbalneav>
hey hey
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<babyhuey>
anyone know if the neoware will run ltsp?
09:42
its a neoware EON
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<mib_rwnajb>
evening all
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ogra .. is ltsp-manager ubuntu only?
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<ogra>
its only a proof of concept ... just a gui, no functionallity
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i was hoping someone picks it up at some point and adds the necessary bits, but that hasnt happened yet
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<mib_rwnajb>
ogra http://www.luckylemon.de/?tag=easy-ltsp
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<ogra>
thats something else ...
10:16
but based on the idea of ltsp-manager
10:16
feel free to try it
10:17* ogra has no idea if it works on ubuntu or not
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<mib_rwnajb>
uhh .. my preferred distro is fedora btw ;)
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<cyberorg>
mib_rwnajb, there are fedora packages available too :)
10:22
mib_rwnajb, http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/server:/ltsp
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<mib_rwnajb>
oh hey .. looks like a case of "speak of the devil" .. r u the author of easy-ltsp ?
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<cyberorg>
mib_rwnajb, nope, the_code is :)
10:26
mib_rwnajb, i mentored the project
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<mib_rwnajb>
cyberorg: nice .. is it done?
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<cyberorg>
mib_rwnajb, yes everything we intended to do works now :)
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<dmaran>
Ok I am trying to get a simple test script to run using one the lts.conf options, ldm_remotecmd= OR RCFILE_01= and neither seem to work. SO I must be doing something wrong, anyone able to giv a quick rundown as I am seeing conflicting information on the net.
10:37
<mib_rwnajb>
cool
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<ogra>
dmaran, what distro/release ?
10:38
<dmaran>
I am working with Binny on this one, ubuntu 8.04 x64 /LTSP5
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<ogra>
you are aware that ldm_remotecmd needs to be capitalized and that lts.conf is read from /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386 ?
10:39
<dmaran>
Yes
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<ogra>
and its not LDM_REMOTECMD
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<cyberorg>
mib_rwnajb, there are still few days to go for SOC to end, do give it a try and give your feedback :)
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<ogra>
as various people told Blinny yesterady ;)
10:40
LDM_SESSION is what you want
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<ogra>
hey LaserJock
10:40
nice to see you here :)
10:40
<dmaran>
Didn't seem to work out though
10:41
<ogra>
the script is installed on the server ?
10:41
and you give the proper path ?
10:41
and your user you use to log in has the right to execute that script ?
10:41
<Nubae>
cyberorg: u r responsible for ltsp-kiwi?
10:42
<cyberorg>
Nubae, yes i am :)
10:42
<mib_rwnajb>
cyberorg: uhhh .. i cant .. i m on a huge project and dont have time to try anything .. i am just mucking about and looking at stuff ..sorry
10:42* mib_rwnajb is wasting time trying to relax
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<dmaran>
It was in the chroot I believe yesterday, so many ways I forot exactly
10:43
<Nubae>
cyberorg: cool, I ususally run ubuntu, but wanted to check out kiwi-ltsp beecause I have a set of suse users here that would probably feel more familiar with their own OS
10:43
<ogra>
LDM_SESSION executes that command as a session after user login
10:43
<LaserJock>
ogra: sbalneav told me he'd come down here and beat me up if I didn't ;-)
10:43
<ogra>
LaserJock, haha
10:43
dmaran, instead of the Xsession thats the default
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<cyberorg>
Nubae, great, now you know who to find if you need help :)
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<cyberorg>
Nubae, it is fairly straight foward, follow http://en.opensuse.org/LTSP/Quick_start
10:45
<ogra>
dmaran, doesnt really make sense to put that into the chroot
10:45
<Nubae>
ah thanks, thats what I was going to ask
10:45
will bookmark it
10:45
<dmaran>
ogra, right. So lets say I put it in etc
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<dmaran>
LDM_SESSION=/etc/test.sh <- the way it should be
10:46
?
10:46
<ogra>
well, you dont put executables into /etc usually ...
10:46
but that would work
10:46
<dmaran>
right, just an example
10:46
<ogra>
(/usr/bin is the right place)
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<dmaran>
I was just about to say that didn't work
10:47
let me try again and make sure it is not in the chroot
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<cyberorg>
Nubae, better bookmark this: http://en.opensuse.org/LTSP
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<etyack>
is there a way to change the behavior of ldm to return to the login/user prompt after a failed password attempt instead of asking for the password three times?
11:53
<warren>
etyack: no. ldm is doing the same thing that ssh client would under that circumstance
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<etyack>
warren: that's what i thought
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<Blinny>
What should we include at the end of an LDM_SESSION script in order to get X to start up properly post-script?
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<Lns>
Stupid Q: is there a way to automatically enable Numlock in lts.conf? I see nothing in /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/doc/ltsp-client-core/examples/lts-parameters.txt.gz - but maybe i should look at a lower-level way of enabling it.
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<sbalneav>
Durned kids
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jammcq: pingity
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<Lns>
I found 'setleds'.. it sure would be nice to have an lts.conf setting to enable/disable numlock keys as I have TONS of usernames that are all numbers
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<jammcq>
sbalneav: pongity
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<Lns>
bueller? =p
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<sbalneav>
Phoneponged
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Lns: I don't think that needs to be in LTSP, when it could be easily handled with an Xsession script.
13:17
I set numlock on for all my users, and it's a pretty trivial thing to do via an Xsession script.
13:18
I think all of Fedora, Debian and Ubuntu have the capability to have extensible Xsession scripts.
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<Lns>
sbalneav: can you give me any pointers on how to do this? never really messed with xsession scripts
13:19
specially globally, not per-user
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<sbalneav>
Lns: You on Ubuntu or Debian?
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<Lns>
ubuntu
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<sbalneav>
Easy peasy
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<Lns>
:p
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<sbalneav>
Are you wanting numlock on for everyone?
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<Lns>
yes
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<sbalneav>
Even easier
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<sbalneav>
cd /etc/X11/Xsession.d
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<Lns>
aaahhh =)
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<sbalneav>
In there you'll find some scripts. They're .'ed into the master Xsession script, so they shouldn't contain an "exit" or anything like that in them.
13:21
just create one called "80_Lns" or whatever name you'd like
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and include the command you need to set on the numlock
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<Lns>
ok...is there a 'local' script i can append to or should i create a new one?
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<sbalneav>
f'rinstance
13:22
In my environment, I want the umask to be 002, so files get created with rw-rw-r-- permissions
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so:
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sbalneav@feniks:/etc/X11/Xsession.d$ cat 80legalaid
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umask 002
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<cyberorg>
who was running sugar on ltsp here?
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<sbalneav>
Now, I use numlockx
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<Lns>
sbalneav: ok - aha
13:23
didn't know if 'setleds' would work in x
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<sbalneav>
so I have one that says
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numlockx on
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<Lns>
easy enough =)
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<sbalneav>
You can also do nice things like check and see what group they're in, and execute some command based on that, etc.
13:25* Lns loves learning more about lowlevel x config
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<Lns>
as low level as this is anyway =p
13:25
thanks! =)
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<sbalneav>
NP
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<Nick_Hill>
I am running Ubuntu hardy LTSP which is taking ages to boot on a Toshiba Satellite pro 4600. How can I best see what is causing the problem - eg seeing a timed boot log, or removing the splash screen?
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<Lns>
Nick_Hill: /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default file holds your kernel boot options
13:29
remove 'quiet' and change 'splash' to 'nosplash'
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reboot thin-client and viola.
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<Blinny>
What should we include at the end of an LDM_SESSION script in order to get X to start up properly, post-script?
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<Lns>
sbalneav: http://lns.wikidot.com/xenablenumlock - thanks =)
13:39
Hopefully that will find its way into Google - searching before asking here didn't yield many useful results
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<Nick_Hill>
Lns, Thanks! I'll try that shortly... someone has just gone on the Tosh 4600
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<Lns>
Nick_Hill: no prob.
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<Blinny>
FYI it is /etc/X11/Xsession
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<Lns>
Blinny: you mean w/my numlock issue? either one would work - i prefer using a custom script so it doesn't get overwritten
13:46
<Blinny>
No, I'm talking about LDM_SESSION scripts
13:47
<Lns>
oh ok sorry :)
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<johnny>
aha.. finally federico is bringing a decent patch that might help me deploy .desktop apps with local apps
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http://www.gnome.org/~federico/news-2008-08.html#26
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<Lns>
johnny: ooo that looks nice
13:59
i've had clients ask about desktop icons..i normally just tell them that menu items are the way to go
13:59
but this is a nice alternative
14:01
<johnny>
well it is integrating with sabayon which is nice
14:01
just need to get a few tiny annoyances fixed
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which i might have time for soono
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<Lns>
AFAIK sabayon is still horribly broken in Ubuntu 8.04.1 ... ?
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<johnny>
it is somewhat broken
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mostly a bug in the panel icons
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sayamindu was going to look at it
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i think we were first having trouble for 2.24 with the lack of gio bindings for python at the time
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<warren>
etyack: ping
14:46
<etyack>
warren: give me a few
14:46
<warren>
etyack: ok
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<etyack>
warren: what's up
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<Scruffy>
hi
18:24
need help
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<Lns>
Scruffy: it's customary to just ask instead of asking to ask... ;)
18:34
<Scruffy>
yes
18:34
sorry for my bad english
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<Scruffy>
so I have install a LTSP server with Ubuntu alternate
18:35
it's ok... but my computer client load a busybox, not a ubuntu desktop
18:35
it's normal ?
18:36
<Lns>
nope
18:36
what does it say? any errors?
18:36
<Scruffy>
no error
18:36
I have just a simple busybox
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lol
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<Lns>
is it a fresh install of ubuntu?
18:37
did you run the special LTSP installer?
18:37
<Scruffy>
yes it's a french install
18:37
it's ubuntu alternate with LTSP option (F4)
18:37
<Lns>
ok
18:37
<Scruffy>
fresh*
18:38
what's my problem ? :(
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<Lns>
on your server, if you edit "/var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default" and remove "quiet" and change "splash" to "nosplash" you will get more output when the client is booting up
18:40
<Scruffy>
ok thanks
18:40
<Lns>
np
18:40
<Scruffy>
I try to boot my client now
18:47
ohhhh
18:47
now it's ok !
18:47
what the FUCK ?
18:47
Lns thank you... :D
18:47
<LaserJock>
Scruffy: did it boot up fine after making those changes?
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<Lns>
hahaha
18:48
Scruffy: what kind of video chipset do you have? amd geode?
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<Scruffy>
so after
18:48
where I can register a login and pass for my client ?
18:48
<Lns>
Scruffy: everything is done on the server
18:49
Scruffy: what is your thin-client hardware?
18:49
<Scruffy>
?
18:50
<Lns>
what kind of computer is your thin client
18:50
<Scruffy>
it's a laptop
18:50
<Lns>
do you know what video hardware it has?
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<Scruffy>
yes it's ATI card
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<Lns>
k...in my experience some video chipsets (such as ati/amd geode) don't like the framebuffer ( you can ask Gadi about that) and won't boot unless you disable the splash screen
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<Scruffy>
no
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i don't want to say that
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<LaserJock>
yeah, I have a laptop with ATI that does some funky stuff like that
18:52
<Scruffy>
I want a login and password foy my client
18:52
<LaserJock>
Scruffy: it doesn't change login
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<Scruffy>
"this workstation wasn't authorized to connect to server"
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<Lns>
Scruffy: ltsp-update-sshkeys && ltsp-update-image
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<Scruffy>
and after it's the same login to my server ?
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<Lns>
yes
18:55
<Scruffy>
ok
19:04
it's ok :)
19:05
thanks a lot Lns and LaserJock
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<Lns>
awesome
19:06
no problem Scruffy
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<Scruffy>
so I have a pb with my asus EEE
19:08
ipconfig: eth0: siobgifindex: no suck devine
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ipconfig: no devices t configure
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can't open /tmp/net-eth0.conf
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kernel panic - not syncing: attempted to kill init
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<Scruffy>
so, it's not a problem... i can use an other computer
19:11
good night all
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<Lns>
hrm...i had that same issue with my eee in gutsy
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must not have the correct eth module
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<johnny>
yep
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it might not be in the default ubuntu kernel build.. just the eeebuntu build or whatever it is called
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