IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 28 September 2011   (all times are UTC)

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04:36
<bakytn>
Hello! Is there any way to reinit rdesktop session without restarting Thin Client? I was playing with RDP_OPTIONS and having to restart all the time :D
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05:39
<bakytn>
I have normally working Audio in Linux thin client. But can't get RDP audio working. I tried to use -r sound:local and other options. Any hint would be...much much appreciated
05:39
should I use SOUND_DAEMON=esd? (I tried though, no sound in both, ldm and rdesktop)
05:39
<alkisg>
distro/version?
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06:01
<bakytn>
alkisg, sorry, it's Ubuntu 11.04 64bit (client i386) LTSP v5
06:01
<alkisg>
Maybe rdesktop has some problems there, see the irclogs in the /topic, 4-5 days ago another person had sound problems in rdesktop and used xfreerdp to solve them
06:02
<bakytn>
BTW I have upgraded it's RDESKTOP from 1.6 to 1.7 version
06:02
ok will look at irclogs
06:02
thank you
06:02
I was thinking to use xfreerdp too..ok
06:02
<alkisg>
Maybe 1.7 has problems then :D. First run it from within a gnome session to make sure sound works
06:03
Once you have it working, then put it in lts.conf
06:03
<bakytn>
alkisg, in the gnome session it working great I can wathc movies and listen to a music
06:04
it should work with pulse right normally..
06:04
will try to revert back to buggy 1.6
06:06
<Hyperbyte>
bakytn, is this with fat clients?
06:07
<bakytn>
Hyperbyte, okay let me explain. I set SCREEN_07 to rdesktop and provided some options there. I think it' a fat client right?
06:08
Hyperbyte, in SCREEN_06 I have LDM and audio working fine (thought server side audio player, so the audio player is not a local app)
06:11
<alkisg>
(09:03:35 πμ) bakytn: alkisg, in the gnome session it working great I can wathc movies and listen to a music ==> I meant for you to run rdesktop from within gnome and get sound from *Windows*
06:11
Not from gnome
06:12
<bakytn>
oh lol, If I run RDESKTOP from the GNOME session I can listen an audio
06:12
but not in SCREEN_07 = rdesktop
06:15
<Hyperbyte>
Are you running it as a localapp in the Gnome session?
06:16
<bakytn>
Hyperbyte, no, just from GNOME. Let me run as localapp in the gnome, moment
06:17
Hyperbyte, no if I use ltsp-localapps rdesktop ..... no sound
06:21
<alkisg>
Now try this. Put SOUND=False in your lts.conf
06:21
Reboot, log into gnome
06:21
Run: ltsp-localapps xterm
06:21
And from that local xterm, see if rdesktop gives you sound
06:22
(SOUND=False disables pulseaudio, maybe it interferes with local alsa sounds)
06:22
Also ensure that you don't have any "oss" or other sound params in your lts.conf
06:27
<bakytn>
sorry, but can..you help with..I'm in localapps xterm. How to check the sound?
06:30
<alkisg>
With alsamixer you can check the sound levels
06:30
With rdesktop -r sound:local etc you can see if you have sound
06:33
<bakytn>
alsamixer is saying: cannot open mixer: No such file or directory
06:33
but!
06:33
when I'm running rdesktop from within localapps xterm
06:33
it's saying: /dev/dsp no such file or directory
06:34
and WARNING: no working audio-driver found
06:34
why can't it find /dev/dsp?
06:38
there is no/dev/dsp really. But I see there is /dev/snd/ folder.
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06:45
<bakytn>
trying to apply this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rdesktop/+bug/231997
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07:52
<bakytn>
OMG I did it! I am now using "padsp" I think I need to edit rdesktop.sh file in order to prepend padsp
07:53
<alkisg>
How did you install the 1.7 version?
07:53
<bakytn>
I build from source
07:53
<alkisg>
Self-compiled? Or took the oneiric package?
07:53
<bakytn>
on, self compiled
07:53
<alkisg>
Does it have options for oss vs alsa?
07:53
<bakytn>
yes --with-sound=alsa etc
07:53
<alkisg>
Because afaik rdesktop in ubuntu uses alsa, not oss
07:53
<bakytn>
but this didn't work ;(
07:54
<alkisg>
Try installing the package from oneiric
07:54
<bakytn>
may be later. meanwhlie I'm okay with "padsp"
07:54
spend many hours on this..
07:54
*spent
07:55
<alkisg>
There's support for padsp in 11.04
07:55
<bakytn>
alkisg, thankfully yeah
07:55
<alkisg>
You just need to set an option in lts.conf, see the source, I don't remember
07:56
<bakytn>
alkisg, SOUND_DAEMON?
07:57
of course not..okay! meanwhile I hacked rdesktop.sh script
07:57
OH
07:57
I see
07:58
I can set RDP_SOUND to pulse-oss
08:07
strange, I'm setting RDP_SOUND="pulse-oss" look at rdesktop.sh (http://pastebin.com/u6budfUY)
08:08
it's not respecting RDP_SOUND? or am I doing something wrong?
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08:21
<bakytn>
guys, why the volume is by default unset? if I login to GNOME session (SCREEN_06 ldm) and increase the volume and then go back to SCREEN_07 (rdesktop) it works fine
08:22
gonna try to set: PCM_VOLUME=90 FRONT_VOLUME=90 and HEADPHONE_VOLUME=90
08:22
may be it helps
08:25
yes, this helped. Still not sure why are they unset by default
08:26
phew. I finally won the fight against RDP and sound
08:26
thanks to ALL!
08:29
<Hyperbyte>
Yay!
08:29
<bakytn>
now the final fight :D USB Flashes :D
08:32
<Hyperbyte>
uh oh...
08:32* Hyperbyte sneaks away and hides
08:32
<bakytn>
:D
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08:41
<bakytn>
is there any way to automount the usb flash drives into chrooted environment?
08:43
<Hyperbyte>
"chrooted environment"?
08:43
<bakytn>
in the chroot, yes.
08:44
I can access USB Flash drive's content from Server (Ubuntu) it's automounted
08:44
but I can't access the contents from ltsp-localapps xterm (for example)
08:44
<Hyperbyte>
Few things
08:44
chroot != client
08:45
<bakytn>
sorry, I meant the client
08:46
<Hyperbyte>
Chroot refers to the client operating system, installed on the server. Technically, "chroot" means "change root"... so the operating where you 'log in' to the client operating system directly on the server, it's called chrooting... else it's just client.
08:46
So basically, when you plug in a flash drive... it's mounted inside Gnome, on the server for the logged in user... and you want it to use it on the client itself, with localapps, correct?
08:47
<bakytn>
Hyperbyte, Yes sir! Correct.
08:48
<Hyperbyte>
Okay. Let me be frank. I have no idea how to do that. :-)
08:49
<bakytn>
Hyperbyte it's okay :D
08:49
<Hyperbyte>
Shouldn't be hard though, I'm sure alkisg knows.
08:49
<bakytn>
Hyperbyte, I have some ideas..to use udev etc. I just thought may be it was already implemented in an easier way
08:49
<alkisg>
It's been answered by gadi enough times here, you can find it in the logs
08:50
I think someone installed ltspfs in the chroot to do it
08:50
<bakytn>
thanks
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08:53
<bakytn>
the main idea is to set "-r disk:usb=<path to local folder where USB flash were mounted>
08:54
gadi's messages were removed? ;(
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09:00
<Hyperbyte>
I doubt that.
09:00
I think the problem is that nickname searches are case sensitive
09:01* Hyperbyte fixes
09:02
<bakytn>
Hyperbyte, thank you! (he is: Gadi)
09:02
<Hyperbyte>
Yeah. :)
09:07
IRC logs search is fixed. :)
09:07
Now you can search for 'gAdI' as well. :P
09:08
<bakytn>
nice :D
09:08
thank you!
09:08
<Hyperbyte>
Keyword searches were already case insensitive, nicknames searches weren't... guess we just never noticed before. :)
09:10
<bakytn>
oh I did something useful finally here :)
09:11
<Hyperbyte>
Hahah
09:11
You underestimate yourself. :P
09:11
<bakytn>
^^
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09:44
<bakytn>
sound is falling to level 0 on every reboot.. ;(
09:44
setting VOLUMES doesn't helping
09:47
strange! if I set additionally -r disk:usb=/mnt/usb along with -r sound:local
09:48
volume is 0
09:48
:D
10:48
phew, I won the last fight too
10:49
I mean the USB Flash automount fight
10:52* Hyperbyte high fives bakytn
10:53
<Hyperbyte>
I'll have a donner kebab to celebrate your victory. :P
10:54
<bakytn>
Hyperbyte, cool :D
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10:58
<Hyperbyte>
Or a lahmacun. :D
10:58
<bakytn>
googling both, lahmacun looks more interesting :D
10:59
<Hyperbyte>
You're telling me you don't have these in Kyrgyzstan?
11:00
<bakytn>
we probably have but I never ate them :D
11:01
we 100% have Kebab, but not sure what kind of. Donner or not.
11:01
<Hyperbyte>
These are two very, very popular Turkish dishes over here.
11:02
You can find Turkish shops for these on every corner in Rotterdam...
11:03
<bakytn>
Hyperbyte, okay!
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12:14
<jammcq>
chupacabra: ping
12:16* vagrantc waves to jammcq
12:17
<jammcq>
hey vagrantc
12:17
you still in Portland?
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<vagrantc>
indeed... migrating geese woke me up and i couldn't sleep
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<jammcq>
wow, it's early there
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12:19
<vagrantc>
tell that to the geese
12:20
<Hyperbyte>
lol!
12:20
<jammcq>
yeah
12:20
<mgariepy>
good morning everyone
12:20
<Hyperbyte>
There's a canal in front of my house, and during spring there's hundreds of frogs there doing mating calls.
12:21
I'd take your geese over my frogs anytime.
12:21
<jammcq>
g'morning mgariepy
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13:29
<_UsUrPeR_>
hyperbyte: ping?
13:29
<Hyperbyte>
Pong!
13:29
Syn? =)
13:37
mhm...
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14:01
<_UsUrPeR_>
Hyperbyte: sorry! I am here1
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<alkisg>
<joking mode> Hyperbyte: well, you *did* take 7 seconds to answer, you can't ask people to wait for that long :D </joking mode>
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<Hyperbyte>
_UsUrPeR_, don't mind alkisg. He's always this evil. :(
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15:02
<_UsUrPeR_>
alkis: <sad panda mode> :( </sad panda mode>
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15:03
<Hyperbyte>
Now look what you've done! :(
15:04* Hyperbyte smacks Alkis :D
15:04
<_UsUrPeR_>
he's dead jim
15:05
<Hyperbyte>
He reads logs. ;-) He's like the LTSP-FBI.\
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<TheMatrix3000>
how would i kill all processes with the name firefox?
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