IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 30 June 2011   (all times are UTC)

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<rickogden>
hi all, I'm experimenting with fat clients and have been following the page on the ubuntu manual site
02:27
I've built an new client and given it the chroot fat-i386 (as I already have a client with the chroot i386 which is thin)
02:27
I can't seem to find a way to specify the chroot in ltsp-update-image
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<alkisg>
rickogden: the easiest way is to move all your old /opt/ltsp directory to /opt/ltsp-thin, while trying with fats
02:57
Once you get fats going, you don't need the thin one, the fat can boot thins too
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<rodrigo>
ola is it talk portugues
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<alkisg>
No :)
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<Hyperbyte>
Bonjour alkisg. Parlez-vous Francais?
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<alkisg>
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<Hyperbyte>
Haha, my terminal doesn't like that. :P
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<alkisg>
Haha
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<Hyperbyte>
I used to hang out in the Amiga channel on EFnet, it's about the Commodore computer system
05:27
There were quite often Spanish people there, writing all kinds of things. :P
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<TheMatrix3000>
test
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<mgariepy>
good morning everyone
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<dead_root>
morning mgariepy
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<Hyperbyte>
Running VirtualBox on an LTSP thin client, good idea or bad idea?
07:27
(not as a localapp, so running on the server, via the client)
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<mgariepy>
Hyperbyte, it's an idea :)
07:44
you need this to run windows apps i guess ?
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<alkisg>
Why not as a localapp, to have graphics acceleration, lower network bandwidth etc etc? Not enough RAM?
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Gadi: Here's an idea to allow "--" to be passed from screen scripts to our xinitrc: http://paste.ubuntu.com/635853/
08:17
Read the explanation at line 59+ first.
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<alkisg>
Gadi: never mind - I think that the evil eval is needed after all, we just need to clarify when it should be used so that e.g. " -u ''" doesn't turn into just "-u". Will look more into it later.
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<Hyperbyte>
alkisg, I want to run Windows 7 in VirtualBox
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<Hyperbyte>
I wouldn't feel comfortable running it on a thin client with 1.8ghz processor and 1GB ram
10:00
In fact, I wouldn't feel comfortable running it as host OS on a machine like that
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I'm more curious if it'll work performance-wise, with remote X
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<alkisg>
Hyperbyte: Even with those specs, I'd still prefer a local installation, either vbox or even AoE.
12:21
vagrantc: yeah it looks like you were right about eval in xinitrc. getltscfg indeed requires either sourcing the output, or eval'ing it. The problem was/is in the xinitrc parameters, those didn't use quotes so that resulted in eval breaking the parameters with spaces or ''.
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I'll put it back and make a note to always quote all the command line in xinitrc
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<vagrantc>
alkisg: glad to be right :)
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<Hyperbyte>
alkisg, do you think LTSP + X + VirtualBox + Windows 7 can run on a thin client with 1GB ram?
12:24
<alkisg>
Hyperbyte: I think it'll suffer a bit, but it'll go much, much better on youtube than with any remote graphics technology
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<Hyperbyte>
Actually, I only plan to use the Windows 7 to test the websites I develop.
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<Gadi>
Hyperbyte: you may want to look into using freerdp as a local app
12:25
they have recently added support for RemoteFX and multimedia redirection
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<Hyperbyte>
mhm
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<Gadi>
in the case of Youtube, remotefx should increase the performance dramatically
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<mgariepy>
Gadi, did you tests it ?
12:26
<Gadi>
remotefx only works with VDI (not terminal services)
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mgariepy: I have tested multimedia redirection
12:27
many others have tested remotefx
12:27
and there are youtube videos showing some live tests
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<mgariepy>
kk
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<Gadi>
(also, now there is a #freerdp on freenode)
12:27
:)
12:27
alkisg: hi
12:27
sorry - crazy days
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<alkisg>
Hey Gadi
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<Gadi>
I havent had a chance to test/follow the xinit changes
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did you sort it all out?
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<alkisg>
I think so
12:28
At first, I thought of the correct way, i.e. to pass real command line parameters
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That's what I committed
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Then, you brought up the -- problem and I started thinking about it again
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<alkisg>
So to allow for "--" as a xinit parameter, we need to use "getltscfg-style" parameters again
12:29
So eval will be required in xinitrc,
12:29
but the problem up until now, which broke e.g. -u '', was that the xinitrc command line was unquoted
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So I think that by putting: xinitrc "$all $params $here",
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and then eval inside xinitrc, we'll have '' not break, spaces in parameters etc
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And -- too
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<Gadi>
hmm... sounds like a theory
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:)
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<alkisg>
It's close to what we had so far, but quoting the parameters should also fix most of the problems we had
12:33
I'll test it a bit tonight or tomorrow, and if it goes well I'll put it up
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<Gadi>
cool
12:33
gonna do it in between protests ? ;)
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<alkisg>
Haha we're on the news? :D
12:34
<Gadi>
sure, next time smile for the camera, would ya?
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<Gnoze5>
yellow
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