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Channel log from 28 June 2007   (all times are UTC)

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<cyberorg>
!printer
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<ltspbot>
cyberorg: Error: "printer" is not a valid command.
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<cyberorg>
!printing
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cyberorg: Error: "printing" is not a valid command.
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<cyberorg>
!help
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cyberorg: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
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<garbat>
blank to all. I have a problem with thin client manager of ubuntu 7,04 with system ltsp-5. When I open the card screen viewer me does not appear the display of the thin client and it says me to install x11vnc. I have tried to install the package in the chroot but the problem remains the same one
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<ogra>
garbat, did you follow this howto ? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallX11VncOnLtspClients
05:53
<garbat>
Ogra thanks, now I try your suggestion... we hope well!!
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<Alexandre>
Hello guys
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<Q-FUNK>
is there any way to tell dpkg not to invoke any daemon when updating the chroot, to avoid it not finding /proc mounted and other such niceties?
06:14
<ogra>
you should just mount /proc
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<Q-FUNK>
ah
06:22
<garbat>
Ogra: A special thanks for Ogra. Now my scholastic laboratory Ltsp with Ubuntu is complete and perfectly working, also thanks to your councils!!!
06:22
<ogra>
:)
06:23
<Q-FUNK>
ogra: I have been able to verify that my installation correctly works with a PXE host. the dhcp if/then finds the pxe client info and boots correctly.
06:24
<ogra>
Q-FUNK, hmm, probably the mknbi call is wrong or something
06:24
<Q-FUNK>
maybe
06:24
how could i check?
06:25
btw, is there any plan to implement this out of the box http://developer.novell.com/wiki/index.php/Feisty/HOWTO:_PulseAudio ?
06:25
<ogra>
well, the script is in /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/lib/ltsp/update-kernels
06:26
Q-FUNK, thats the default in ubuntu since edgy
06:26
debian is just behind
06:26
err
06:26
s/edgy/feisty/
06:26
sorry
06:27
<nf1>
Something weird just happened. I did dist-upgrade on the server and on the client and now the client boots up and when it got to display the LDM the screen flickers for a second with black screen with cross in the center and after that it display console and it again, and again...
06:27
I'm using LTSP5 and debian sid
06:27
<ogra>
you should rather rebuild the client chroot after a dist upgrade
06:28
<nf1>
oh, ok
06:28
<ogra>
there are many settings that happen during clientbuildtime
06:28
if you upgrade the chroot these might be missing
06:28
<nf1>
so I should runt #ltsp-build-client --dist sid --mirror my_mirror?
06:29
<ogra>
(dropping of initscripts for unused services etc, stuff that slows down your boot)
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<ogra>
if your server distro is sid you dont need the --dist switch
06:29
<nf1>
ok
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<maxel>
hello.
06:40
This java irc app is really comfortable :)
06:42
ahm, if a unique user is logged-in in different terminals, how can he/she exec more then one firefox, for example.
06:48
<jammcq>
g'morning all
06:49
<ogra>
yo jammcq
06:49
tribe2 is on its way (with scotties ldm and all the other stuff) :)
06:49
how's winnipeg ?
06:50
<jammcq>
much colder than Detroit
06:50
<ogra>
heh
06:50
<jammcq>
and the Roger Waters concert last night was fantastic
06:50
<ogra>
*envy*
06:51
so sad i have to go to london in a week .... else i'd have moved my travel to portland
06:51
and would have joined you
06:51
<jammcq>
would have been fun.
06:51
<ogra>
next time :)
06:51
<jammcq>
Are we gonna see you in Portland in July ?
06:52
<ogra>
i hold the ltsp talk, indeed i'm there :)
06:52
<jammcq>
oh yes
06:52
sadly, sbalneav won't be there :(
06:52
<ogra>
need to get people using the new stuff ;)
06:52
but he'll be in boston i hope
06:52
so at least in november ....
06:53
<jammcq>
yeah, hopefully
06:53
boston's easy for me. I can drive there
06:53
btw, have you heard from Vagrantc ?
06:53
<ogra>
he's travelling back to the US atm iirc
06:53
<jammcq>
yes, he called me yesterday afternoon
06:53
he's stuck in boston
06:53
<ogra>
ah
06:53
well, home at least
06:53
<jammcq>
he got that far, and his airline cancelled his next flight
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<ogra>
half way
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<jammcq>
and he doesn't know anyone in boston
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<ogra>
mako
06:54
<jammcq>
and apparently, his airline didn't *take care* of him
06:54
oh yeah
06:54
<ogra>
but he's in copenhagen :/
06:54
<jammcq>
but I don't know mako that well
06:54
<ogra>
he's not home atm
06:54
visiting fabio
06:54
<jammcq>
I told him call Warren Togami :)
06:54
<ogra>
yeah
06:54
thats a good hint
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<jammcq>
anyway, he's stuck, and hopefully heading out this morning
07:01
<ogra>
jammcq, btw, ubunu defaults to compiz now ... with a neat autodetection for composite and auto fallback to metacity ...
07:01
<jammcq>
cool
07:02* jammcq is anxious to give gutsy a try
07:02
<ogra>
works wonderful .... on the classmate i have effects ... if i log out there and go to a non 3D client it just works as usual
07:02
if i come back to the classmate i got effects again :)
07:03
vagrant broke our dhcp config :(
07:03
he hardcoded next-server
07:04
i think i'll start generating the file at build time ... i dont even want it commented in there
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<jammcq>
ogra: have you tested sound on the e2300
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<ThRiX>
Hi at all
07:59
someone uses a t5300 hp thin client, with ltsp (under ubuntu server 7.04)?
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<ogra>
jammcq, doesnt work ... no driver
08:12
jammcq, i heard there is some work done upstrem in alsa but i dont know the status yet
08:12
sadly our alsa guy just jumped the boat
08:13
got a new job, no online access there
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<maxel>
how can a unique user, logged-in from different x-terminals exec, for example, firefox?
08:17
<ogra>
maxel, yu mean one user and multiple logins at the same time ?
08:18
<maxel>
i get somthing like: firefox already running.
08:18
yes
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<ogra>
that will lead to probs with openoffice, KDE/GNOME (ahichever you use) as well as firefox
08:18
i woud use a user per terminal instead
08:18
firefox is the easiest to solve here, all others are very tricky ...
08:19
just create a per terminal profile for firefox and make sure its started with the repective profile
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<ogra>
no idea how to solve the desktop problmes though
08:19
<maxel>
ah ok.
08:20
<ogra>
since all users will use the same home dir, they also use te same sesstings inside that ...
08:20
thats likely to break
08:20
<maxel>
understand
08:22
i dream of simething like single-sign-on and many x-terminal and so. i understand this comes to conflicts
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<maxel>
want you to know the Evos's and other x-terms are doing pretty nice on the LTSP5 here.
08:26
<ogra>
great :)
08:27
well, a single sign on would be possible with a slighly tricky pam-mount setup ... if you create the /home/$USER dir during log in in a tmpfs that could work
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<Q-FUNK>
btw, is vagrant out on vacation?
09:03
<ogra>
no, he's travelling
09:03
he was at debconf and before at the ubuntu conference
09:03
(some would cal that vacation though ... i dont anymore :) )
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<Q-FUNK>
hm. rebuilding the chroot fails, apparently because the system on which I'm installing has a non-C locale now.
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<yopla>
hello there!
09:39
I still have trouble with my G3 Blue imac client
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<yopla>
X server is correct but ldm says "Didn't get the correct output from the greeter"
09:40
client is ubuntu 6.10 server is debian sid
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<Q-FUNK>
Setting up xserver-xorg (7.1.0-16) ...
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xserver-xorg postinst warning: failed to infer keyboard layout from layout/lang
09:44
'10 debian-installer/keymap doesn't exist--fi_FI'
09:44
and it got stuck there
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<sbalneav>
Q-FUNK: This on Debian?
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<Q-FUNK>
yup
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<EXP__>
anyone know how to get Realtek r1000 network card working with ltsp?
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<yopla>
what is the module nave of netcard?
09:59
name
10:00
<ogra>
Q-FUNK, i would be worried if it would be ubuntu :)
10:00
it works fine there
10:00
locale handling is something where ubuntu and debian differ massively
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<EXP__>
i have drivers source files, but how i can make them useable for ltsp
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<ogra>
r1000 drivers are included in ltsp5 ...
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<EXP__>
i have 4.2
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<ogra>
no idea then
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<rjune_>
ogra !
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<yopla>
ldm's greeter_output is empty :-(
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<sbalneav>
Q-FUNK: I know vagrant's travelling right at the moment, so we'll keep an eye out for him if he pops in.
10:06
<Q-FUNK>
ogra: indeed, but installing ubuntu on that old K6 was out of the question. it installs too much stuff by default.
10:06
<sbalneav>
yopla: What do you mean?
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<yopla>
sbalneav: ldm.log says : greeter didn't return coorect output
10:08
<sbalneav>
yopla: Are you using feisty or gutsy>
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<ogra>
Q-FUNK, all i wated to say with that in a subtle way is "i cant help you much, wait on vagrant"
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<yopla>
6.10 (edgy)
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<yopla>
sbalneav: it was downloaded from ltsp archive for ppc
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<sbalneav>
yopla: ahh, ppc version.
10:10
I've never played with that.
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<Q-FUNK>
ogra: last time I installed edubuntu, though, it pretty much did everything right out of the box, which was nice :)
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<yopla>
sbalneav: i'ts painfull and I progress slowly
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<ogra>
yeah, thats its purpose ...
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<rjune_>
ogra: is there a way to find the gui config tools in ubuntu?
10:12
I.E. in redhat, they're all called system-config-*
10:12
<ogra>
its our reference implementaion for distro integration of ltsp
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<sbalneav>
Wish I had some PPC hardware to play with. I was given some, but it didn't work :(
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<sbalneav>
so I'm ppcless
10:12
<ogra>
rjune_, well they are in the system menu ...
10:13
<rjune_>
I'm using kde.
10:13
or are all the tools stock gnome tools.
10:13
<ogra>
try using gnome-control-center
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<yopla>
we've got plenty of blue G3 imac
10:13
<ogra>
err oh
10:13
well, no clue about KDE :)
10:13
<rjune_>
damn. so to get all the tools, I need to load up gnome.
10:13* Q-FUNK has a blue G3 imac sitting in the closet
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<yopla>
is tehre a debug mode fro LDM?
10:14
Q-FUNK: lol! could be pretty ltsp machines....
10:14
<ogra>
rjune_, no idea, really ... i know KDE is always a release behind with adoptig the ubuntu tools via python QT frontends
10:14
<sbalneav>
Well, it looks like ldm isn't the problem, it seems the greeter's what's giving you the problem.
10:15
<ogra>
but they should have most available as well
10:15
<rjune_>
ok. thanks.
10:15
<sbalneav>
You should be able to run the greeter directly, and see what's causing the problem.
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<Q-FUNK>
yopla: too noisy and too big
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<sbalneav>
yopla: You should be able to run /opt/ltsp/.../usr/lib/ltsp/greeters, and you should see the greeter screen
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<yopla>
Hummmm. no chroot?
10:17
<sbalneav>
yeah, chroot fisrt
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<Q-FUNK>
'import site' failed; use -v for traceback
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<rjune_>
I'm having another odd problem maybe you can help with. from a terminal, sudo works fine, but from a GUI, gksu won't authenticate. I've tried both my password and the root password.
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<ogra>
sbalneav, do you have jammcq near ?
10:20
<sbalneav>
He's sitting right beside me.
10:20
He'll come online in a sec.
10:20
<ogra>
thanks
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<jammcq>
g'morning all
10:21
!s
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<chupacabra>
yo
10:21
<ltspbot>
jammcq: "s" is Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
10:21
<jammcq>
hey chupy
10:21
<sbalneav>
Jammcq!!!
10:21
Long time no see
10:22
<chupacabra>
whoot
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<rjune_>
jammcq: how's the great white north?
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<yopla>
argh! my glade.so is empty
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<jammcq>
rjune_: coooold
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<yopla>
var/lib/python....../gtk2.0/gtk/glade.so
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<sbalneav>
yopla: ?
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<yopla>
sbalneav: I think it's python-glade2 package prob
10:29
<sbalneav>
Maybe it's not installed in the chroot?
10:30
<yopla>
yes it is. python2.4 is empty (0 size) but 2.5 isn't
10:31
I've made a dist upgrade in chroot. Perhaps I souldn't
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<ogra>
rjune_, use gksudo :)
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<sbalneav>
Worst case scenario, you can just restore from backups.
10:42
<ogra>
gksu is the equivalent to su
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<yopla>
sbalneav: OK
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<rjune_>
I'm using whatever ubuntu wants to use by default
10:47
i.e., I've not changed it
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<ogra>
ubuntu or kubuntu ?
10:48
(kubuntu uses the kde based wrappers indeed)
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<Q-FUNK>
any pulseaudio expert here? :)
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<ctkroeker>
anyone else have trouble with thin clients not displaying panels right in gnome, not rebooting, firefox saying its already running, etc.? running ubuntu
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<sbalneav>
vagrantc!!!
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<vagrantc>
hi!
16:52
<sbalneav>
How's it going?
16:52
Get yourself out of Boston?
16:52
<vagrantc>
tired, but i'm "home"
16:52
yeah, i'm at my mother's house in wisconsin
16:52
<sbalneav>
How'd you get there?
16:52
<vagrantc>
aeroplane
16:52
well, no ...
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<jammcq>
vagrantc: hey buddy
16:53
<vagrantc>
i mean, as far as chicago, and then caught the bus here
16:54
i am so sick of traveling
16:54
<jammcq>
vagrantc: you could have just stayed in Boston. The next Ubuntu summit will be there :)
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<sbalneav>
Well, I'm glad it worked out "OK", for some value of OK
16:54
<vagrantc>
how's manitoba?
16:54
<sbalneav>
I like it here.
16:54
Been here all my life :)
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<vagrantc>
jammcq: you're there too, no ?
16:54
<jammcq>
yeah, I'm up here in the great white north
16:55* Q-FUNK is north and far east
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<vagrantc>
boston is pricey as all hell
16:55
<jammcq>
yes, boston thinks it's New york city
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<Q-FUNK>
it cannot get pricier than moscow, thoguh
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<jammcq>
I've heard that Moscow is the MOST expensive city
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<Q-FUNK>
jammcq: yup, except that they forgot one very important keyaowrd in that study's results: expensive FOR EXPATS
16:58
and st-petersburg not far behind, for the same reason
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<Q-FUNK>
basically, russia has what they call the feoreigners' tax: everything is priced at either 10x what russians pay or at the same digit in USD, the minute they figure out that you're not local.
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<vagrantc>
that reminds me of latin america, except that it still seems cheap
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<Q-FUNK>
even official places like museums have two distinctive prices in russia. the ermitage in st-peter's had tickets going at 25rur for locals and 250rur for foreigners.
17:01
but that's just st-pertersburg, which is known to be easy-going, cultural and foreigner-friendly.
17:02
moscow is a capitalistic jungle, so the prices are outright savage.
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<vagrantc>
so, for some reason, cards don't fit in my pcmcia slot today
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<Q-FUNK>
I guess they forgot one important rule of capitalism: price what the market can bear. :)
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<vagrantc>
sbalneav: back to using that usb ethernet you gave me :)
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<Q-FUNK>
vagrantc: getting back to items on topic, I seem to be having problems launching a pure Etherboot device. pxe devices launch fine from the same server.
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vagrantc: ogra suggested that you might be more knowledgable on etherboot than he is.
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<sbalneav>
vagrantc: A present given that has found a useful home is the best kind.
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<vagrantc>
sbalneav: time and time again, it has proved very useful :)
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<cliebow_>
Q-FUNK:why not try an older version..
17:09
like ol' trusty 5.0.11..
17:09
i think jammcq mentioned some timings issues on later etherboots
17:10
<vagrantc>
Q-FUNK: you might try configuring etherboot to do PXE emulation ... looks like rom-o-matic does that by default now. you'd have to comment out the lines in dhcpd.conf that tell it to use etherboot
17:11
Q-FUNK: i guess i should also ask ... what happens? any error messages ?
17:11
<Q-FUNK>
vagrantc: I see the kernel start loading, then something plays with fbdev and the screen goes blank in a whirpool of vesa mode switching confusion.
17:12
<vagrantc>
hrm. strange.
17:12
<jammcq>
that's a mknbi issue
17:12* jammcq is pretty sure
17:12
<vagrantc>
but the same configuration works fine with pxe ?
17:12* vagrantc would trust jammcq on this one
17:12
<Q-FUNK>
yes, but the pxe unit is different hardware.
17:13
<vagrantc>
different video hardware ?
17:13
<jammcq>
still.... I think you have a mknbi issue
17:13
<Q-FUNK>
different thin client completely
17:13
different video, different SoS chipset too
17:14
both capable of vesa modes, though, so it shouldn't be a problem
17:15
jammcq: so how do I debug an mknbi issue?
17:15
-n
17:15
<jammcq>
it happens because the version of mknbi in Ubuntu seems to have an issue
17:15
<Q-FUNK>
this is on debian etch
17:15
<jammcq>
hmm
17:15
could be the same problem in etch
17:16
<Q-FUNK>
probably the same problem
17:16
sync :)
17:16
<jammcq>
you should try to NOT use fbdev
17:16
to see what it does
17:16
<Q-FUNK>
how would i configure that?
17:16
<jammcq>
I don't remember how ubuntu and debian prepare the nbi kernels
17:17
<Q-FUNK>
vagrantc: would you know anything about that part?
17:17
<jammcq>
i'm looking at the ltsp-update-kernels script now, to see how it does it
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<vagrantc>
Q-FUNK: yeah, but i have to look at the code to remember how
17:18
<Q-FUNK>
by the looks of the kernel messages i get, i see the vgafb messages until it tries to switch to vesafb
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<jammcq>
vagrantc: when a new kenrel is installed, what script is run to prepare the kernels for etherboot? this is BEFORE ltsp-update-kernels runs
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<vagrantc>
jammcq: ltsp-update-kernels runs some script inside the chroot
17:21
<jammcq>
no, this happens as part of the kernel install
17:21
like a post-inst script or something
17:21
that runs mknbi, if it exists
17:21
<vagrantc>
i don't think that happens in the kernel postinst
17:22* vagrantc looks at the code more before talking
17:22
<jammcq>
ltsp-update-kernels only copies the kernels from the chroot to /var/lib/tftpboot
17:22
and/or /tftpboot/lts
17:22
<vagrantc>
it also runs commands chrooted i thought ...
17:22
<jammcq>
nope
17:22
not the one in feisty
17:23
<vagrantc>
it's been a long time since i hacked on that
17:23
oh yeah, it was me who made it run as part of postinst
17:23
part of my goal to obsolete ltsp-update-kernels
17:24
ok ... figured it out
17:24
i think
17:25
echo export MKELF_LINUX_OPTS="--ip=dhcp $YOUR_OTHER_OPTS_HERE" >> /etc/ltsp/ltsp-update-kernels.conf
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<vagrantc>
of course, what exactly to put for $YOUR_OTHER_OPTS_HERE still needs some work ...
17:26* vagrantc man mkelf-linux
17:27
<vagrantc>
$YOUR_OTHER_OPTS_HERE="--append='$SOME_KERNEL_PARAMS'"
17:28
<jammcq>
I'd like to know what opts are there by default
17:28
and there's not ltsp-update-kernels.conf file by default
17:28
<vagrantc>
--ip=dhcp is the default
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<jammcq>
what about 'splash' ?
17:28
oh
17:28
this is debian
17:28
no splash
17:28
<vagrantc>
this is?
17:28
<jammcq>
etch
17:29
that's what he said
17:29
<vagrantc>
ok, i was a late comer ...
17:29
actually, i think there's an inconsistancy here ... nbi images use different default KERNEL commandline
17:30
<Q-FUNK>
that might explain it
17:30
<vagrantc>
it should use $BOOTPROMT_OPTS just like the default $PXELINUX_CMDLINE
17:30
gah, this code is ugly.
17:31
<Q-FUNK>
where do I change this to test it?
17:32
<vagrantc>
well ... hmmm...
17:32
<zodman>
hey alo there
17:32
<vagrantc>
Q-FUNK: i think for now you'll have to use the command i mentioned earlier ...
17:32
<Q-FUNK>
echo export MKELF_LINUX_OPTS="--ip=dhcp $YOUR_OTHER_OPTS_HERE" >> /etc/ltsp/ltsp-update-kernels.conf
17:32
this?
17:32
<zodman>
someone know how can i get the ip of server on in lts-client?
17:33
is the ip of gw ?
17:33
gateway*
17:33
<vagrantc>
echo export MKELF_LINUX_OPTS="--ip=dhcp --append='root=/dev/nfs ip=dhcp'" >> /etc/ltsp/ltsp-update-kernels.conf
17:33
oops
17:33
echo export MKELF_LINUX_OPTS=\"--ip=dhcp --append='root=/dev/nfs ip=dhcp'\" >> /etc/ltsp/ltsp-update-kernels.conf
17:33
forgot to escape
17:33
<Q-FUNK>
inside the chroot or on the server side?
17:33
<vagrantc>
server side
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<Q-FUNK>
done
17:35
let's see if it gives me a usable nbi image :)
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<vagrantc>
but i don't think that would realyl change the defaults ...
17:36
<Q-FUNK>
actually, you need to escape the append ' too, but never mind. :)
17:36
<vagrantc>
you might also want to add to the append bit ... something like nofb or something. i'm not sure.
17:36
you do ?
17:37
<Q-FUNK>
echo export MKELF_LINUX_OPTS=\"--ip=dhcp --append=\'root=/dev/nfs ip=dhcp\'\" >> /etc/ltsp/ltsp-update-kernels.conf
17:37
otherwise they get skipped
17:40
export MKELF_LINUX_OPTS="--ip=dhcp --append='root=/dev/nfs ip=dhcp'"
17:40
<vagrantc>
looks good
17:40
well, i'd try adding some nofb or some other boot prompt options ... if it semes like vesafb stuff is causing you headaches
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<vagrantc>
i'm not familiar with exactly what to play with, just where to put it
17:41
<Q-FUNK>
or it might just be that it failed to mount root because it lacked the boot options
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<vagrantc>
nah, we hard-code it in the initramfs to try NFS boot
17:44
<Q-FUNK>
I mean, even if it ended up generating impossible vesa modes, it would still succeed in booting up to ldm and be ping'able
17:44
right now, it doesn't
17:45
it just seems to freeze right after trying to switch vesa mode (or so it seems)
17:49
<vagrantc>
no idea
17:50
i'm also weary from 4 days of traveling, so i'm not at my best
17:50
though it's the sort of thing i don't have much experience with
17:52
<Q-FUNK>
understood :)
17:53
I at least know where to play with mknbi paramenters now. it's a start
17:53
<vagrantc>
hmmm...
17:53
maybe that won't actually work
17:53
it actualyl happens in the kernel postinst ...
17:54
hrm.
17:54
you might have to export the variable and: chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$KERNEL_VERSION
17:54
what a mess.
17:56
<Q-FUNK>
it's unpacking the kernel now. we'll soon find out if the MKELF_LINUX_OPTS trick works
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<vagrantc>
well, you'll have to make sure the environment variable is available ... it won't pull it from the server-side config
17:59
ah, but it will use ...
18:00
/opt/ltsp/i386/etc/ltsp/update-kernels.conf
18:00
so you can put the variable in there
18:06
<Q-FUNK>
erm.. k
18:06
so the content of whatever I put moves there?
18:07
<vagrantc>
well...
18:07
yeah
18:08
the MKELF_LINUX_OPTS
18:08
sorry about taht
18:09
<Q-FUNK>
does the file need to live at both places?
18:10
<vagrantc>
i don't think so
18:10
and it's a different file name
18:10
<a5benwillis>
Anyone have time for a question about pam authentication on ltsp?
18:11* vagrantc reconsiders the "ltsp-update-kernels" not running anything in the chroot idea
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<Q-FUNK>
wait... are we using mknbi-linux or mkelf-linux ?
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<Q-FUNK>
argh. we use nbi and this baby wants tagged elf.
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<vagrantc>
hrm?
18:40
mkelf-linux is what we use
18:41
haven't used mknbi since before LTSP muekow existed
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<Q-FUNK>
we do call in nbi.img
18:41
sin/r/it
18:41
<vagrantc>
yes, but that's just a filename
18:41
<Q-FUNK>
ah
18:41
<vagrantc>
has no real meaning
18:41
<Q-FUNK>
then it's not that
18:42
one down
18:43
mkelf-linux --output=bootimage bzImage --rootdir=/dev/ram0 initrd.gz
18:43
this is what the device's manual suggests
18:43
<vagrantc>
--rootdir is definitely not needed
18:45
<a5benwillis>
Anyone have time for a question about pam authentication on ltsp? Im wondering if when using pam authentication does the authenticated user actually get created on the ltsp server? Im wanting to use pam to authenticate against Active Directory.
18:45
Or E-Directory...
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<mopey>
a5benwillis, yes, the user is on the server by default.
19:21
I don't know anything about active directory, but if you can get the server to authenticate using that, I imagine the clients will too.
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