IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 21 February 2007   (all times are UTC)

00:00
<mathesis>
la gente no usa los usb o floppy o cdrom?
00:00
<knight>
no
00:00
<mathesis>
knight, tienes algun como para hacerlo con ubuntu
00:00
<knight>
el caso es que cualquier cosa ellos se mandan un email con los archivos
00:01
<mathesis>
que version de ubuntu tienes?
00:01
<knight>
dapper
00:01
no uso el edgy eft
00:01
<mathesis>
tienes edgy eft con ltsp?
00:02
<knight>
nope
00:02
no lo tengo
00:02
pero si quiero hacerlo
00:02
<mathesis>
tienes el howto
00:02
<knight>
me supongo que solo vas al website de ubuntu
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00:03
<knight>
y haz una busqueda de ltsp
00:03
pero mis instalaciones siempre han sido de abajo para arribas
00:04
<mathesis>
como de abajo para arriba
00:06
<knight>
osea
00:06
lo he bajado por interner
00:07
y he tomado hasta los recursos en cuenta
00:07
planificado
00:09
<mathesis>
Download Kubuntu 6.06.1 LTS
00:10
que es LTS?
00:10
<knight>
Long Term
00:10
Osea soporte a largo plazo
00:11
<vagrantc>
pero, LTSP en 6.06 es malo
00:11
<mathesis>
que me recomiendas edgy o dapper para el server?
00:11
<knight>
Mathesis cuanto anos tienes trabajan en linux
00:11
<mathesis>
meses
00:11
<knight>
oh ok
00:11
<mathesis>
en linux
00:11
bueno en debian 2 años
00:11
en ubuntu 1 mes
00:12
aunque digan que son iguales debian e ubuntu no es cierto
00:12
<knight>
vagrantc por que dices que ltsp en 6.06 es malo
00:12
ubuntu es basado en debian pero no es lo mismo
00:12
<mathesis>
vagrantc, es mejor edgy con ltsp4.2?
00:14
<vagrantc>
knight: no tiene LTSPFS para discos de USB y otra cosas
00:15
<mathesis>
vagrantc, buntu edgy tiene LTSPFS?
00:15
<vagrantc>
mathesis: no conozco ltsp4.2, pero creo que ltsp5 esta bien :)
00:15
mathesis: si
00:16
<knight>
oh ok
00:17
<vagrantc>
y pienso ltsp5 en ubuntu edgy es mas rapido de ubuntu dapepr
00:18
<mathesis>
vagrantc, yo quiero la rapidez de ltsp4.2
00:18
<knight>
lo haz probado
00:19
<vagrantc>
"rapidez" ?
00:19
<knight>
osea haz tomado en consideracion la memoria y todo
00:19
con los thin clients
00:19
<mathesis>
speed ltsp4.2
00:20
knight, tengo los clientes con 128 en ram
00:20
400 mhz con 128 en ram los terminales
00:20
<vagrantc>
ahora, ltsp4.2 es mas rapido de ltsp5 ... pero ltsp5 tiene mas possibilidades.
00:20
<knight>
ok
00:20
<mathesis>
por que mas posibilidades vagrantc ?
00:20
"posibilidades"?
00:20
<knight>
yo tengo thinclients con pentuin 2 333mhz
00:21
y 64 memoria
00:21
<mathesis>
knight, con gnome
00:21
<knight>
sip
00:21
jejejej
00:21
<vagrantc>
mathesis: ltsp5 usa paquettes de debian o ubuntu o gentoo ...
00:21
<mathesis>
pues ami me van lento edubuntu
00:21
<knight>
trabajan bien
00:21
<vagrantc>
o otra linux ...
00:22
cuando usa paquettes de un distro de linux, cuando el distro tiene paquettes por seguridad, o otra programmas, tiene en ltsp5 tambien...
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00:23
<vagrantc>
mathesis: entiende, mas o menos?
00:23
<mathesis>
no
00:24
you write english
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00:24
<vagrantc>
ltsp5 uses the packages of whatever linux distro you are running... debian, ubuntu or gentoo, or something else ...
00:25
<mathesis>
if i am install a package in debian ltsp5 use package
00:25
<vagrantc>
when you are using the packages of the linux distro, when there are security updates, or other programs, you can get those for ltsp too ...
00:25
it can ...
00:26
so, any of those 15,000 packages available in debian, are also available to your ltsp clients
00:26
<mathesis>
ok
00:26
<knight>
ok
00:26
<mathesis>
entendi
00:26
<vagrantc>
with ltsp4.2, you would have to compile most of those in the LBE ...
00:26
which is difficult :)
00:27
<mathesis>
knight, como agregas un nuevo paquete a ltsp4.2?
00:27
<vagrantc>
if you are just running all your applications on the server, it probably isn't so important.
00:27
<knight>
ok
00:28
solamente lo agrego en el servidoe
00:28
<vagrantc>
but, because ltsp5 uses more packages from the linux distros, it means that LTSP developers have to spend less time re-implementing things like the linux kernel and libc and such, and can spend more time just working on things specific to LTSP... which is why LTSP is moving in that direction :)
00:29
<mathesis>
ok
00:29
its the future ltsp5
00:29
<vagrantc>
yes ...
00:30
<mathesis>
vagrantc, its need more speed
00:30
<vagrantc>
mathesis: yes, yes, we know :)
00:30
<knight>
lol
00:30
now they can at least focus on the important things
00:30
<vagrantc>
LTSP 4.2 and earlier versions set the speed bar very high.
00:31
<knight>
but things will get better
00:31
<vagrantc>
or, the expectations are very high for a fast booting thin client
00:31
knight: that's the hope :)
00:31
<knight>
lol
00:31
there is no hope
00:31
there is a goal
00:31
<mathesis>
vagrantc, freegeek sale thin-clients}'
00:32
<vagrantc>
and there is the constant procrastinating away from that goal :)
00:32
mathesis: not much, really. but they give away thin-clients sometimes.
00:32
<knight>
is there any way i can help
00:32
<mathesis>
how many?
00:32
<knight>
with that procrastination
00:32
<vagrantc>
heh.
00:33
mathesis: it depends ...
00:33
mathesis: they mostly do local grants. most of the grants to far away places have gone badly.
00:34
<knight>
poor management
00:35
????
00:35
<vagrantc>
yes.
00:35
<mathesis>
vagrantc, you work in freegeek
00:36
<knight>
not everbody can do what they say can do
00:36
its easy to say that you can
00:37
<vagrantc>
mathesis: more from a distance these days, but i was staff and have volunteered there for years.
00:37
knight: you speaking about freegeek?
00:37
<knight>
yeah
00:38
not only freegeek
00:38
but there has been alot of places
00:38
where it happens like that
00:38
<vagrantc>
ah, yes.
00:38
<knight>
due to poor management
00:38
<vagrantc>
the ideas are simple, the action is difficult.
00:39
and keeping it going is hardest
00:39
<knight>
it takes corouge and passion for that kind of stuff
00:39
oh believe me I knoe
00:39
know
00:39
<vagrantc>
i fortunately never really had to handle the management side... i just get to take action :)
00:40
<knight>
lol
00:40
thats the good part
00:40
<vagrantc>
knight: there is also a freegeek channel here on freenode, if you're interested in this sort of thing :)
00:41
<knight>
ok
00:41
let me see whats going on there
00:57* vagrantc still fails to run xen on an ltsp client
00:57
<vagrantc>
must be some writeable directories i'm missing
01:00
yo voy a dormir ahora
01:00
<knight>
vagrantc que duermas bien
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02:12
<illinux>
ask ltspbot
02:13
!ltsp
02:13
<ltspbot>
illinux: "ltsp" is LTSP is the Linux Terminal Server Project, the open source thin client solution. You can find it at http://www.ltsp.org
02:13
<illinux>
!pxe
02:13
<ltspbot>
illinux: Error: "pxe" is not a valid command.
02:13
<illinux>
!etherboot
02:13
<ltspbot>
illinux: Error: "etherboot" is not a valid command.
02:14
<illinux>
!ltspbot
02:14
<ltspbot>
illinux: Error: "ltspbot" is not a valid command.
02:19
<mathesis>
illinux, you uses ltsp5 or ltsp4.2?
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02:30
<MrDarkUser>
!x.org
02:30
<ltspbot>
MrDarkUser: Error: "x.org" is not a valid command.
02:31
<MrDarkUser>
ltspbot: x.org is sometimes a challenge to configure for LTSP environments.
02:31
<ltspbot>
MrDarkUser: Error: "x.org" is not a valid command.
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03:23
<kaos01>
anyone any idea as to why /boot/grub/menu.lst gets picked up secessfully only sometimes ?
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04:28
<erdinc>
hi everyone
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05:02
<Jenna>
hi guys, Is it necessary to have a sound card on the ltsp server to get sound going on the clients ? (have cs43..., something crystal on the clients)
05:06
<erdinc>
no
05:06
you'll use esd for this
05:08
<Jenna>
what do u mean ?
05:08
I mean since I dont have sound card on the server. I havent enable SOUND to yes in lts.conf ?
05:09
since my clients all have sound cards, Im hoping to utilize them.
05:10
<erdinc>
esd = esound
05:11
for example xmms
05:11
you should set output esound for xmms to listen sound from a certain tcp port
05:12
16001 as I remember
05:13
<Jenna>
yeah and nasd is for 64 proc servers. right. I get that.
05:14
<erdinc>
http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Sound
05:14
take a look at it..
05:14
<Jenna>
but my question is do I need to set SOUND=Y in my lts.conf even if I dont have sound card on the server ?
05:14
<erdinc>
yes you should set Y
05:15
<Jenna>
okay. already looking at that. but just wanted to clear out design/arch stuff
05:15
thanx any though
05:15
tesekurler
05:15
<erdinc>
you're welcome :)
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05:19
<Jenna>
btw is ltsp5 production ready ?
05:22
<sep>
Jenna, on debian and ubuntu yes
05:23
<erdinc>
it'll be ready on pardus soon :)
05:23
<sep>
what's pardus ? :)
05:23
<erdinc>
www.pardus.org.tr/eng
05:24
some comments: http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=07/01/19/1449245
05:28
<Jenna>
Im k12ltsp buff. any news about that ?
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05:29
<Jenna>
sep: I thought skolelinux was dead ?
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05:29
<Jenna>
btw what about edubuntu ? I need an out of the box solution /
05:31
<cliebow_>
edu rocks
05:33
<Jenna>
hey cliebowvy
05:34
<sep>
Jenna, skolelinux will release new versio asap after etch releases
05:34
<Jenna>
yeah. tried that on a old Quad 500Mhz, 2Gb server. it seemed to work okay but was a bit sluggish
05:35
<sep>
skolelinux is a network system, you can't realy test that unless you have 3 machines
05:39
<Jenna>
sep: yeah I got that much. couple of weeks back I was googling for some production-ready ltsp solution. Ran into a lot of bad press for skolelinux. u guys need to address taht
05:39
that*
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<sep>
Jenna, what kind of bad press ?
05:43
i guess PR is the most lacking part of most FOSS projects :)
05:47
<cliebow_>
skole required 2 nic system..i like single nic..but i tried it aa long time ago
05:47
and 4.2 booted sO fast
06:01
<Jenna>
cliebow_, : what about edubuntu ? I've found it to be slower than k12ltsp.
06:04
<cliebow_>
oh it is a little slower..bnut makes up for it in
06:04
deviuice detection
06:23
<sep>
Jenna, all ltsp5 will boot slower then ltsp4.2,
06:23
as cliebow_ saies, the advantaqes more then makes up for it
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06:26
<cliebow_>
i may be talking thru my hat cuase ive only had it rocking on a crossover from my laptop..and newest schol isnt up to speed
06:26
in pc
06:26
in ppc
06:27
<Jenna>
hmm.
06:27
gonna give edubuntu a try on stronger server
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06:29
<Jenna>
gtg need caffeine
06:29
thanx guys gona catch u tonite
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07:21* erdinc bye aLL..
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<jammcq>
g'morning
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08:03
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
morning!
08:13
<poro>
any tips for enabling usb sticks. I tried to make them work with this howto https://wiki.edubuntu.org/EnableLTSP5LocalDevices
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08:14
<pscheie>
g'morning all
08:14
<poro>
thin clients dmesg shows that there is life but I see no action on server side
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09:07
<blinky_ghost>
hi where can i find documentation for ltsp-5?
09:09
<freemind>
http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Documentation
09:13
<blinky_ghost>
thanks
09:15
<freemind>
ok :-D
09:17
<blinky_ghost>
just another question :)
09:17
can you tell me how do i get usplash working on ltsp clients? :)
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09:30
<freemind>
i don't know
09:31
a new image of kernel
09:31
something like that
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09:42
<jammcq>
SCOTTY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
09:42
<sbalneav>
Jammcq!!!
09:45
<pscheie>
sbalneav: question about LDA and how it automatically closes files after 2 seconds of inactivity
09:46
<kaminski-ltsp-br>
hi all
09:46
;)
09:47
<sbalneav>
pscheie: Yep?
09:48
<pscheie>
is that at the file level or is the whole device unmounted after 2 sec?
09:48
<sbalneav>
Whole device is unmounted
09:49
<pscheie>
so, if I plug in my usb key, the icon appears on the desktop, I open it via nautilus
09:49
after 2 sec, I can just pull the key out, or is nautilus keeping it 'alive'?
09:52
<sbalneav>
After 2 seconds you can just yank it.
09:53
<joebaker>
LTSP 5 PowerSaver - How do I adjust the timeout for the screen?
09:59
<sbalneav>
joebaker: are you talking in X?
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10:25
<joebaker>
sbalneav - Thanks... Sorry for the delay. The user is in X when it occurs. I have tried the screensaver properties from her Gnome Desktop settings. But it seems like some local thin client acpi setting.
10:26
sbalneav The power goes out on the monitor after some period of time. I'm not sure where to fix this.
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10:39
<cryptom>
Hi, what could be the reason that on one client PC (intel board with integrated video) I get a very high resolution, but on an other PC (also Intel but not the same model, also with integrated video) I get a very low resolution?
10:39
both exactly the same monitor!
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<mathesis>
hi
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10:58
<Gadi>
jammcq: ping
10:58
<jammcq>
Gadi: pong
10:59
<Gadi>
I need some Xorg expertise....
10:59
<jammcq>
ppfffff
10:59
ok, no prob
10:59
<Gadi>
If you had a monitor that had no display adjust controls....
10:59
<jammcq>
yeah
10:59
<Gadi>
and your display were horizontally shifted
10:59
what could you do?
10:59
<jammcq>
crt or lcd ?
10:59
<Gadi>
lcd
11:00
<jammcq>
hmmmm, no controls ?
11:00
<Gadi>
none
11:00
<jammcq>
odd
11:00
<Gadi>
its a touchscreen
11:00
only had an on switch
11:00
er has
11:00
and I want to be able to change resolutions without having to get grotty with modelines
11:00
<jammcq>
umm, I know for crts you can play with modeline.
11:00
<Gadi>
:)
11:01
<jammcq>
do you have it plugged into a real linux box ?
11:01
<Gadi>
as opposed to?
11:01
<jammcq>
a thin client
11:01
<Gadi>
ah, yes
11:01
Xorg 7.1
11:01
<jammcq>
can you run xvidtune against it?
11:01
<Gadi>
sure
11:01
lets try that
11:01
<jammcq>
with xvidtune, you can play with the settings, to see how it looks
11:02
<Gadi>
'Video modes are not unable on this chip'
11:02
:(
11:02
<jammcq>
hmm
11:02
<Gadi>
er, tunable
11:02
not unable :)
11:03
its an i810 driver
11:03
<jammcq>
even on my laptop, if I play with trying to shift it left or right, it has no effect
11:03
I think it's only for crts
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11:05
<jammcq>
I don't see any options for the i810 driver to allow you to shift the screen
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11:07
<Gadi>
yeah
11:07
weird
11:07
<jammcq>
totally
11:07
<Gadi>
I wish I could tell the monitor to autotune
11:07
<jammcq>
did you try slapping the side of it?
11:07
<Gadi>
several times
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11:16
<One>
Anybody here from Brazil???
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11:27
<bricode>
Gadi: I think you can play with the HorizSync in the Monitor Section.
11:28
<monteslu>
wow, the fedora mailing list just exploded into a name calling soap opera. have a read if you guys are bored. Very entertaining
11:29
<bricode>
monteslu: Over what?
11:29
<monteslu>
ESR just left for ubuntu
11:29
<bricode>
monteslu: E. Raymond?
11:29
<monteslu>
he had a long winded exit message, and now its a firefight
11:29
yeah
11:30
<Gadi>
bricode: yeah, ive tried. at first I thought it was on the driver side. Now I think its on the monitor side. Its weird - there are ddc-detected modes that I can't seem to get the drvier to go into (or even things like xrandr to see)
11:30
<bricode>
wow
11:30
<sbalneav>
link?
11:30
<monteslu>
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2007-February/msg01006.html
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<sbalneav>
Everybody Loves Eric Raymond :)
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11:35
<monteslu>
heh
11:36
<bricode>
Gadi: how horizontally shifted is your screen? 1/2?
11:38
<Gadi>
no no
11:38
just slightly
11:38
5%
11:38
maybe
11:38
enough to push things off the screen
11:38
and be annoying
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11:48
<bricode_>
Gadi: Did the screen come with any documentation about refresh rates?
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12:43
<mathesis>
Gadi, what is you distro?
12:47
<Gadi>
mathesis: I am actually doing this from within Knoppix atm
12:47
so, debian
12:47
:)
12:47
I was thinking maybe I could shift the framebuffer with fbset - but, it doesnt respond to mydemands
12:47
:)
12:48
<mathesis>
Gadi, you have run ltsp in knoppix
12:49
<Gadi>
this is not ltsp that I am working on atm
12:49
just video stuff
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<cliebow>
Gadi:ping
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<Gadi>
cliebow: pong
13:43
bricode_: ping
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<bricode_>
Gadi: pong
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<Gadi>
u know that funny thing X sometimes does where the resolution is larger than the physical display, so the display moves when you put your cursor at the edge of the screen?
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<bricode_>
Gadi: Sorta. Why?
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<Gadi>
any idea how to tell it not to do that :)
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<pscheie>
Gadi: xrandr?
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<bricode_>
Gadi: Do you have a "Virtual" section in your Display subsection?
13:47
<Gadi>
bricode_: I do not
13:47
perhaps I should....
13:48
<bricode_>
Gadi: Well, you might want to have one that explicitly matches your desired resolution.
13:48* Gadi thinks last time I tried that, the xserver borked
13:48
<Gadi>
but, will try again
13:49
<bricode_>
Yeah, I've been playing a lot with X lately to get some dual head stuff to work.
13:49
Man it's a pain in the butt when you're not using standard hardware.
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<cliebow>
Gadi:just a stupid ? i cant put my finger on..to prematurely end a script as i work thru debugging..end exit..stop? quit..ewass?
13:51
<Gadi>
cliebow: what language? perl?
13:51
<cliebow>
yes sir
13:51
<Gadi>
exit should do
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<cliebow>
hmm..guess i need to move it
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or refresh browser
13:54
ok..i see..
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<bricode_>
Gadi: any luck?
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<Gadi>
not much - I found an upgrade to the BIOS for this box. I'
14:19
er, I'm hoping it'll upgrade the video bios
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<bricode_>
Gadi: Yeah, upgrading bioses is a beast.
14:20
Gadi: I had to roll my own boot CD so I could upgrade some thin client bioses.
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<Gadi>
but, from the docs on the touchscreen, it seems there is an external OSD remote that plugs into it to do display adjust
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so now, I'm just trying to resolve why I cant get higher video modeas
14:21
er, modes
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<bricode_>
Gadi: Sounds handy. Why can't you just do it easily in software? :)
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<Gadi>
heh
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<bricode>
check your sync rate values. They are key.
14:26
Hateful little wireless router.
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<Mighty-D>
Hi, im having some problems with local devs ... i followed all the steps in the troubleshooting with success... the only step i missed was when i tried to mount /tmp using the shelll script, can anyone help me?, im running slackware
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<jammcq>
hey all
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<Mighty-D>
hey!
15:48
Hi, im having some problems with local devs ... i followed all the steps in the troubleshooting with success... the only step i missed was when i tried to mount /tmp using the shelll script, can anyone help me?, im running slackware
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<Mighty-D>
Hi, im having some problems with local devs ... i followed all the steps in the troubleshooting with success... the only step i missed was when i tried to mount /tmp using the shelll script, can anyone help me?, im running slackware
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<a5benwillis>
Hello LTSP!!
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I hope this is a place for help with a thin client issue on LTSP.
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I am trying to get my LTSP server (edubuntu) to authenticate to Netware.
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.
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<a5benwillis>
I have the 'server' itself authenticating just fine and even automatically creating accounts on the server. But when I try to log in via the thin cleint the login fails back to the login screen.
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.
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Am I correct in assuming that I need for SSH to authenticate via pam_ncp_auth.so as well?
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.
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Or does the SSH session authenticate to the server in some different way in LTSP?
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<erdinc>
hi everyone
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<a5benwillis>
nobody?
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57 people, anyone here?
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<cliebow_>
heh
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all authentication is at he server..you may be missing ssh keys
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Lord Gadi has said that ldm login on cliient is a thin disguise for ssh auth
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guess you're not here...
17:11* Gadi tired....
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<Gadi>
bricode: still here?
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<bricode>
Gadi: oddly enough, I happen to be.
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<mistik1>
Gadi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
17:12
<bricode>
Gadi: What's the word? Also, have you been sent a link to our little video?
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<mistik1>
What's up my brother from another Mother
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<Gadi>
mistik1: hey!
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bricode: I have found that if I use the fbdev driver and a 1280x1024 fb, I can get 1280x1024
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but thats the only way
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:P
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<mistik1>
Gadi: was it you that patched in support for xinerama in ltsp?
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<bricode>
Whacky. What vid card are you running?
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<Gadi>
I tried telling i810 to UseFBDev, but it doesnt seem to care to
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its intel 945G
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great card
17:14
awesome linux support
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mistik1: indeed
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once upon a time
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:)
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<bricode>
wow. That sounds irritating that it won't actually work with the UseFBDev flag.
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<Gadi>
and it was more like support for putting lts.conf vars in to make it happen rather than a static config file
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bricode: indeed
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i dont think the i810 driver honors that flag
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<bricode>
Gadi: In case you haven't seen it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=876jZuLhsbU
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<mistik1>
Gadi: I was sitting there last night reading the code and I could picture you sitting there with a bunch of monitors shouting a Roger saying "It works!!"
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I even heard your voice saying it
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<Gadi>
mistik1: lol
17:18
are you back in jersey?
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<mistik1>
:)
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<mistik1>
nope
17:18
I'm In GA right now
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I'll be here a couple more weeks yet
17:19
<cliebow_>
anyone used pandora.com::yeah a little commercial yes but..pretty cool
17:19
<Gadi>
family?
17:19* mistik1 must something exciting to do tomorrow
17:19
<mistik1>
Yea, my dad
17:19* mistik1 's birthday tomorrow
17:19
<Gadi>
HAPPY BDAY!
17:19
<mistik1>
:) thanks
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<cliebow_>
Happy Birthday!!!..my little brothers too
17:20
<mistik1>
I'm just getting to be more of an old fart
17:20
<cliebow_>
al 250 pounds of jim,
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<mistik1>
:)
17:20
<cliebow_>
heh /jim/him
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<mistik1>
You little brother did you say?
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I hope you dont try to pick on him
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<Gadi>
bricode: so, you've been playing with mythTv, i see...:)
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<bricode>
Gadi: Yeah, it's good to dabble in all areas.
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Keep your random skills and knowledge sharp.
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<Gadi>
and by dabble you mean watch TV ? ;)
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<bricode>
Meh. I don't even have cable.
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<cliebow_>
not since he was 11
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<bricode>
And my internet pipe isn't even that big.
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<Gadi>
its not the size of your internet pipe that counts....
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<cliebow_>
Lloyd Parks...Screaming Target
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how you use it i suppose
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<a5benwillis>
Im HERE
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<cliebow_>
Heh!Q
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<a5benwillis>
Can anyone tell me if the user loggin into the thin client needs to be able to authenticate on the server via SSH?
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<Gadi>
a5benwillis: if you are using ldm, then yes
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<a5benwillis>
Gadi: Would you mind if I shared my issue with you? Hopefully you'll know something about the subject.
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<a5benwillis>
I'm using Edubuntu specificaly.
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<bricode>
I had a girl tell me that once...
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<Gadi>
ok, but if you havent run: ltsp-update-ssh-keys (or some such), then you should start with that
17:26* Gadi forgets the exact command
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<cliebow_>
THAT was what iweas looking for
17:26
<Gadi>
too many rusty coffee pots
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<a5benwillis>
What I'm trying to do is have my users authenticated against a Netware NDS server using the pam_ncp_auth.so module
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<Gadi>
sounds fun
17:27
<cliebow_>
Gadi: if he can login at server he is golden of his keys are good?
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right?
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<Gadi>
well, if he placed the changes in common-auth part of PAM, then prolly
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<cliebow_>
a5benwillis, remember that gdm is not your login manager on client..
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<mistik1>
lol
17:30
Question of the day "Do you know where /boot is located"
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<cliebow_>
hahh
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i had the same sort the other day..where do i find /tmp
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<mistik1>
*sigh*
17:31
Some folks really dont think before they type
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<cliebow_>
i must admit ive otten a little flustered myself at times
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<mistik1>
I gave it 1.6Gb and wxGTK still ran out of space building itself
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jeeze
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<cliebow_>
gentoo?
17:35
<mistik1>
of course
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This little laptop has been compiling for days
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Hostname: firelinks - OS: Linux 2.6.18-dscape/x86_64 - CPU: 2 x AMD Turion(tm) 64 X2 Mobile Technology TL-50 (1600.000 MHz) - Processes: 138 - Uptime: 5d 5h 14m - Load Average: 4.93 - Memory Usage: 287.18MB/873.80MB (32.87%) - Disk Usage: 37.47GB/53.78GB (69.68%)
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4.93 load avarage, ouch!
17:36
<cliebow_>
what is the upgrade path like?.Ooooh Itals
17:36
<mistik1>
upgrade path from what?
17:36
Its easy to move to gentoo from any distro
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<cliebow_>
well just keepimng up to date
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<mistik1>
oh
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emerge -uD world
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walk away
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<cliebow_>
that rocks
17:37
<mistik1>
yes it does
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or rather
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emerge --sync && emerge -uD world
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<cliebow_>
not unlike apt-get update and apt-get -y dist-upgrade
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<bricode>
yeah, until you realize your computer is totally busted and you have borked video and raid drivers.
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<mistik1>
yea, cept your compiling
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huh?
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<cliebow_>
i get you...been the borkee before
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<bricode>
And it's especially exciting if they've changed something like udev, and your computer won't boot properly.
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<a5benwillis>
Sorry abt that. I had a 17month old throw up right in front of me. We had to cleanup a bit :)
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<mistik1>
hehe
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<cliebow_>
8~)
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<a5benwillis>
let me see what was said
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<bricode>
I enjoyed Gentoo, and learned a whole pile from it, but there were some scary foot shootings.
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<mistik1>
bricode: are you speaking of dist-upgrade?
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<cliebow_>
<Gadi> ok, but if you havent run: ltsp-update-ssh-keys (or some such), then you should start with that
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* Gadi forgets the exact command
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<bricode>
mistik1: no, emerge -uD world
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<mistik1>
oh pfft
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<a5benwillis>
but, I can log into the thin client with an account that already exists on the server
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just not accounts that I want to authenticate via NCP
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<mistik1>
bricode: before I started using Gentoo I was already good at tracking dependency issues, so it was not a big deal
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<cliebow_>
how is the loggong on ncp?
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<Gadi>
a5benwillis: take a look at how your ssh pam module is configured
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<bricode>
mistik1: I suppose I was a little careless about dependency issues. It just seemed that if I didn't upgrade for 3-4 months, when I did, it was a painful recovery process.
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<mistik1>
bricode: I tend to do a -p before a run the command and look at what will change, I also use -f to fetch all the packages so if something fails I have everything that needs downloading here
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Other than that i'm golden
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<bricode>
mistik1: maybe it was my patience that killed me :) kernel upgrades and kde ones were grim times.
17:46
<mistik1>
yea KDE was horrible, kernel is great but now that I use the modular KDE that is much better as you dont need compile the whole suite anymore just the individual packages that actually changes
17:47
Wed Jan 24 17:20:14 2007 >>> x11-base/xorg-server-1.1.1-r4 merge time: 14 minutes and 56 seconds.
17:47
That is not bad at all
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<bricode>
mistik1: Humm. Maybe I left gentoo too soon? I started using it in like 2002 or 2003.
17:48
mistik1: Moved to Ubuntu on account of LTSP actually, and business.
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<mistik1>
This is a HUGE package to compile
17:48
Wed Feb 21 17:55:59 2007 >>> x11-libs/wxGTK-2.6.3.3 merge time: 23 minutes and 38 seconds.
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bricode: I dont think I'll bother to ever switch again
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unless Gentoo stops updating which I dont see happening
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<bricode>
mistik1: from Gentoo? I did like their emerge package management. It was sweet.
17:49
<mistik1>
yea from Gentoo
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You see the reasons I went to gentoo in the first place was not because I like waiting for apps to compile but I found myself more and more having manually upgrade dated or missing packages from other distros...
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So I figured if i'm going to be keeping GIGs of custom packages around I may as well just bloody well do it all myself and have what I want when I want
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They way Ubuntu now stays on top of things If they had started a year earlier I may well be a ubuntu user today
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<bricode>
Ubuntu still has its holes, that's for sure.
17:55
But .deb packages seem to help fill the gap, and random repositories.
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<mistik1>
Well it certainly is better with updates and such
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I used to hate telling clients, Oh yes we can do that only to install the damn distro and find a 5yo copy of the package that CANT do what the one from 2 years ago can
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That used to burn me up
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Stable means nothing if its useless
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<a5benwillis>
I better not get thrown up on again
17:58
Gadi: Does the /etc/pam.d/ssh file need to be configured for NCP auth as well? I've tried setting this up like my GDM file but I keep getting an error in /var/log/auth.log that the password is wrong (its the right PW of course)
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<Gadi>
a5benwillis: yes, it does
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your sshd_config prolly tells ssh to UsePAM
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which means it'll look to pam for auth
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which means you need the ssh pam module to auth to ncp
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bricode: I got i810 to honor the higher modes!
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<bricode>
Gadi: huzzah!
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<Gadi>
turns out 1280x1024 was achieved with a higher clock frequency than ddc could go
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but xorg uses ddc by default as a module
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so I pass the option for no ddc
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and voila
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<cliebow_>
mistik1:for me ubuntu rocks cause the admins at little svhools can handle it..albeit with some handholding..i dont think gentoo would fly for this
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<Gadi>
otherwise xorg throws out the mode as unacceptable
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<cliebow_>
inspector:nice detective work..
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<a5benwillis>
Gadi: I've configured the pam ssh file all sorts of ways. All of the how-tos that I're read on this don't mention any modification to the ssh config.
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<cliebow_>
Watch your Back" syas SUgar Minott
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<bricode>
I swear, all xorg is black magic.
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<a5benwillis>
Gadi: Is this just for Edubuntu or all LTSP?
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<mistik1>
cliebow_: The only way I would unleash Gentoo on the unsuspecting is #1 if they ask for it specificly or I wrap it in a nice admin interface
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maybe even something like webmin
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<a5benwillis>
Gadi: These are the first lines of my pam ssh file:
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.
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.
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#
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auth required pam_ncp_auth.so
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#
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auth sufficient pam_unix.so likeauth nullok
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#
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auth required pam_ncp_auth.so -d -a -u10000,50000,n,gcd ndsserver=10.10.50.1:a5do.adm.acsd5 -a -L -zAINTX
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#
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<Gadi>
a5benwillis: sshd is configured by default on ubuntu to use PAM
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<a5benwillis>
password sufficient pam_unix.so
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#
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session sufficient pam_ncp_auth.so
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pam_unis.so though which is local auth
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<cliebow_>
a5benwillis, earlier ltsp did not use ldm..but xdmcp/gdm from the server
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<Gadi>
why do you have 2 auth statements for NCP?
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you should only have one
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<cliebow_>
a5benwillis, try to use a pastebin for long posts 8~)
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<a5benwillis>
again, I have tried lots of things. This is a file that another person on the edubuntu chan set up for me to try
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<Gadi>
and if its AFTER the pam_unix.so add a "use_first_pass" to the line
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that'll usually get you the single password required
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<a5benwillis>
cliebow_: http://pastebin.com/886043
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thats the whole file
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<cliebow_>
ahhhhhhhh
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<Gadi>
a5benwillis: did you get what I said?
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<a5benwillis>
i did, but have tried that
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this module actually ignores "use_first_pass"
18:10
it uses pam_ncp for the auth but in my /var/log/auth.log file it tells me that the pass is wrong and does not authenticate.
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want me to pastebin the auth.log file?
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<cliebow_>
I defer to gAdi
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<a5benwillis>
lol
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<cliebow_>
i only have exp authing to ldap
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<a5benwillis>
its a tiugh one, ive been working on this for two weeks'
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http://prope.insa-lyon.fr/~ppollet/netware/ncpfs/pamncp/auth/
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modules info'
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<cliebow_>
in ldap..i alter common-* and other files use @include common-*
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<a5benwillis>
ive tried addint the auth line to the common-auth file as well, same result
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<cliebow_>
but if the @include line is commented other pam.d/files wont reaf them
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or am i full of dooper
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<Gadi>
a5benwillis: so, you cant auth to NCP even for gdm, right?
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you cant auth to it yet at all
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<a5benwillis>
yes, I commented that in the ssh file to see if the common-auth was causing a problem. didnt help of course.
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I CAN for gdm, it works perfectly using the same auth line
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<Gadi>
do you need to enter the password twice?
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<a5benwillis>
in gdm?
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<Gadi>
yes
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<cliebow_>
yes
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<a5benwillis>
no,
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<Gadi>
in gdm
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<a5benwillis>
single log in
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<Gadi>
for gdm, did you add to /etc/pam.d/gdm or common-*?
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<a5benwillis>
gdm
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<Gadi>
can you pastebin that file?
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<a5benwillis>
yes, will you be here for abt 20 mins?
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gotta put a kid to bed... sry
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<Gadi>
*maybe*
18:18
heh, i know how it is
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:)
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<a5benwillis>
tomorrow?
18:18
<Gadi>
prolly.
18:18
can you pastebin first?
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<a5benwillis>
k, i'll brb as fast as i can
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<Gadi>
then if I leave, I'll just type ideas in chat
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ok
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<a5benwillis>
gotta von to get it
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vpn
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brb
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I got it for ya. pasting now
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<Gadi>
k
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<a5benwillis>
I really need some help with this. its been killing me and you guys seem to be the most knowledgable I've spoken to
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<cliebow_>
gadi is omniscient
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<Gadi>
we're a bunch of war veterans around here ;)
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<a5benwillis>
http://pastebin.com/886249
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<Gadi>
cliebow_'s my biggest and only fan...
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<a5benwillis>
thats the //etc/pam.d/gdm file
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<a5benwillis>
it allows gdm login, it authenticates and creates the user on the ubuntu box if it doesn not exist.
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<cliebow_>
yes..the "You didnt do anything silly like put your profiles into your homedir in ldap" line still sticks out
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weird..still the dublr calal to ncp
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heh double call to ncp
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<a5benwillis>
where???
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it only has one pam_ncp_auth.so call
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wait nm
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lol
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<cliebow_>
7 and 14
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<Gadi>
thats not the whole file is it?
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<cliebow_>
one auth one session
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<a5benwillis>
yes
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<Gadi>
I think you may have not pasted it all
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the gdm one
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I only get to line 16
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<a5benwillis>
thats all of it
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<cliebow_>
like no passwd ref?
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<a5benwillis>
I got that file from this link:
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http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/appnote/6019.html
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then modifies the auth line to work for me using automagic account creation
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there are numerous how-tos out there but as I said none mention SSH
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<Gadi>
put the Password line is commented out?
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<a5benwillis>
http://deandra.homeip.net/hacks/ndstermserver.shtml
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<a5benwillis>
again, testing
18:29
works fine thouhg
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<cliebow_>
i dont think password line is commented in the original
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<a5benwillis>
that line just tells it to require a min of 4 chars in the password right
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<cliebow_>
yep
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<a5benwillis>
go get some rest and I'll find you tomorrow :)
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<Gadi>
heh, thx - forget rest - i need to drive home
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:)
18:59
good night
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<a5benwillis>
oh! doh
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<cliebow>
doh?
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<a5benwillis>
thought he was already home
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<cliebow>
he works late..
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<a5benwillis>
thought you left cliebow
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<cliebow>
just to switch wm
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go to get to volume control when reggae comes on
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<a5benwillis>
Im gonna email the ltsp email list in a few. surely someone on there has seen this
19:01
ah
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<cliebow>
perhaps..maybe write daniel? who wroite the k12ltsp
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piece
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<a5benwillis>
ive written several people directly, no responses yet
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Ive got to get this working. Its a pilot for a network with 6000 clients and 16k users
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were a medium sized school district
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<cliebow>
i know...important stuff..i only got 2500
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<a5benwillis>
school district?
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<cliebow>
you firmly entrenched in netware?
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<a5benwillis>
its been here much longer than me
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<cliebow>
guess so then..
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<a5benwillis>
Im slowly converting things to linux and windows AD
19:04
theres around 25 netware servers
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abt the same number of windows
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<cliebow>
not openldap?
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<a5benwillis>
as apposed to NCP?
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much harder to get the home directories mapped as they are on the netware boxs
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<a5benwillis>
ok, new ssh file didnt help. abt to try his last suggestion
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weh still nogo
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<cliebow>
hmmm.any way to increase logging to see what is going on..that is what i love about ldap
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even wireshark?
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<a5benwillis>
well
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the -d option sets it to debug mode and it logs to /var/log/auth.log
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thats where I get the error that the pass is wrong
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i used wireshark to get the gdm login working but havent tried it with the ssh issue
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Im not sure that I'de see a whole lot
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but I'll try it
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<cliebow>
at least it is a ray of hope 8~)
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<a5benwillis>
is usre need something lol
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I just email the ltsp mail list as well
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<a5benwillis>
hola
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<TheProf>
Hello. Any tips on how to get arabic language support in Open office through ltsp?
19:51
I know this doesn't relate directly to ltsp, but the channel is usually full of geniuses :)
19:53
<cliebow>
guess we re all shriveled up tonight
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<TheProf>
argh :)
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<cliebow>
Gadi went home..havnt seen jammcq tonight...mistik1 is around..or was
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<TheProf>
any thoughts yourself?
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<cliebow>
havnt heard much from the rest of the gents
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afraid i cant help there
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but it seems an openoffice prob
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<TheProf>
yeah. tried to set the language in there but it just writes right to left but still latin letters
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And any websites that offer help are in arabic, which I can't read! (setting it up for someone else)
20:00
Ah well. Thanks for the chat. I've got to split for a while.
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<cliebow>
figures 8~)
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<TheProf>
bye
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<Aaron|Feldman>
hi all
20:28
something kind of strange happened on my ltsp server
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all of a sudden at the command prompt I am aaron@ws137
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and I am sitting at the server console
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I didn't set a ws # for the server at all
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anybody have any idea
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<a5benwillis>
sounds like a dns update
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<Aaron|Feldman>
really?
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<a5benwillis>
the ws name was read from dns, is it possible that the servers ip was previously used by a workstation?
20:39
<Aaron|Feldman>
I just installed a wireless router
20:39
I'm not sure
20:39
I certainly didn't set a workstation with that number
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<jammcq>
hey all
20:39
<a5benwillis>
hi
20:39
<Aaron|Feldman>
hi Jammcq
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<a5benwillis>
either of you guys use Netware?
20:40
<jammcq>
certainly not me
20:40
<a5benwillis>
trying to get my ltsp to autenticate against netware
20:40
<Aaron|Feldman>
no, never
20:40
<a5benwillis>
well, had to ask
20:40
<jammcq>
seems like there's some info on that on the ltsp wiki
20:40
you aren't the first person to want to do that
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<whiprush>
jammcq: just sat in our first LTSP lab with real students.
20:41
<jammcq>
oh?
20:41
<whiprush>
jammcq: smashing success.
20:41
<jammcq>
how'd it go?
20:41
coooooool
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<Aaron|Feldman>
thanks a5benwillis for your insight
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<a5benwillis>
did I help
20:43
yur welcome
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<Aaron|Feldman>
yes, I feel better now there is some explaination
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I thought the computer was possessed
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<a5benwillis>
i dont think its anything to be alarmed about
20:44
<Aaron|Feldman>
it was just strange, never seen it before
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<knight>
hi all
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<knight>
hey coyote10
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<knight>
hello vagrantc
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<vagrantc>
evening
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<knight>
not alot of activity today
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<dan__t>
Howdy.
23:42
Sorry, I know, I know - I should be talking more.
23:42
My LTSP setup is just going so well, and it is so well documented for the mostpart - I'm keeping myself plenty occupied!
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;)
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<mathesis>
vagrantc:
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hi vagrantc