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Channel log from 13 September 2014   (all times are UTC)

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07:29
<Akang>
hi all
07:29
Is anyone can help me to make lab for school with old pc
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15:48
<greavette>
Hello All, I'm using screen scripts (screen_07=rdesktop) to auto connect the ltsp session to a Windows VM. It's working very well but I'd like to make it a little more descriptive if a problem occurs. I've noticed if my VM is turned off my ltsp session goes completely blac with only the mouse moving. I'd like to put up a message of somekind to let users know the VM has been turned off and they need to seek assistance....or some k
15:48
I've found the rdesktop script in /usr/share/ltsp/screen.d/rdesktop. Is this where I can add in code to put up a message if the rdesktop connection fails?
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15:53
<JuJuBee_>
alksig: can I copy the contents of a Fresh install on a HD to my server chroot? to make a new image?
15:55
<alkisg>
greavette: yes, you can put it there
15:55
JuJuBee_: type "al" and then press "tab"
15:55
<JuJuBee_>
alkisg: sorry
15:55
<alkisg>
The name will be autocompleted, so that you don't mistype user names...
15:56
Sure, you can do that
15:56
<JuJuBee_>
anything special I need to do? I tried it and it failed miserably
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15:58
<pycoderf>
hi all. is there an issue with ltsp and ubuntu 14.04? i cant get my clients to boot after a do-upgrade-release
15:59
<greavette>
alkisg: Thank you.
15:59
<alkisg>
JuJuBee_: normally you only have to install the ltsp-client, ldm, ltspfsd packages in the chroot
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pycoderf: what's the error message?
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<JuJuBee_>
alkisg: so if I boot my client with usb and rsync contents of hd to server then install those pkgs I should be good?
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<alkisg>
There might be upgrades issues... e.g. dnsmasq in 14.04 has yet again broken default configuration (outside of ltsp)
16:01
<pycoderf>
it keeps stating /sbin/init-ltsp is missing which it is not
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<alkisg>
pycoderf: mount -o ro,loop /opt/ltsp/images/i386.img /mnt; ls /mnt/sbin/init-ltsp
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Is it there?
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If so, then it means that nbd mounting failed or something
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JuJuBee_: if you rsync properly, then yes you should be good. A cleanup might be helpful too, inside the chroot, /usr/share/ltsp/ltsp-cleanup
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<pycoderf>
alkisg: on client or server?
16:04
<JuJuBee_>
alkisg: what switches should I use for rsync?
16:04
<alkisg>
pycoderf: server
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JuJuBee_: it would take a lot of time to answer that properly, so you'd need to google it
16:05
after the rsync, chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 and ls -lha /dev, and check that the ownership of the devices is correct
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<pycoderf>
yes it shows up
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<JuJuBee_>
alkisg: OK. I will try that monday. just to be safe, if I copy the current /opt/ltsp/amd64 somewhere for safe keeping, I should be able to copy it back if this fails?
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<alkisg>
Move it
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sudo mv /opt/ltsp /opt/ltsp.bak
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<JuJuBee_>
OK
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<alkisg>
pycoderf: ok then check for errors _before_ the one you mentioned
16:07
E.g. about nbd errors
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<pycoderf>
i dont see any ont he client
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<alkisg>
You may want to remove quiet-splash
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!quiet-splash
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<ltsp>
quiet-splash: to disable the splash screen in Ubuntu, in order to see any boot error messages, run sudo gedit /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default and remove quiet splash plymouth:force-splash vt.handoff=7
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<pycoderf>
alkisg: i appears to be stuck at the same place i dont see other issues
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but i do also see a no init found
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which is odd
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<alkisg>
pycoderf: do you see messages about nbd, succeeding or not?
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<pycoderf>
mountind /dev/nbd0 on /root failed; no such device
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<pycoderf>
it is odd as this server was working fine before updating to 14/.04
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<alkisg>
So, that's the primary error
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!nbd-client
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<ltsp>
nbd-client: To try mounting the NBD image from the client initramfs: nbd-client 192.168.67.1 -N /opt/ltsp/i386 /dev/nbd0
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<alkisg>
Try that
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I think the main problem is wrong nbd-server configuration on the server
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<pycoderf>
whch is odd as it was workign and i did a straight upgrde
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<alkisg>
It's not odd; ltsp frequently has upgrade issues ;)
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The nbd-server configuration files now have a different header...
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<pycoderf>
hm ok
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so does that mean ltsp just doesnt work with 14.04 at this time and i should keep my old client images?
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<alkisg>
pycoderf: no, it means you should change 1 line in your server configuration
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<pycoderf>
the nbd server?
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i did to remove the authfile line
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<alkisg>
What's the first line in ltsp_i386.conf?
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<pycoderf>
am i missing something else
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[/opt/ltsp/i386]
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exportname = /opt/ltsp/images/i386.img
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<alkisg>
What did the nbd-client mount command report?
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!nbd-client
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<ltsp>
nbd-client: To try mounting the NBD image from the client initramfs: nbd-client 192.168.67.1 -N /opt/ltsp/i386 /dev/nbd0
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<alkisg>
bbiab
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<pycoderf>
alkisg: server closed connection
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<alkisg>
pycoderf: and on the server syslog?
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<pycoderf>
it thinks it cant open an auth file but i told it not to use one
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<alkisg>
That warning is not important, ignore it
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<pycoderf>
okt hen i dont see much else
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<alkisg>
Pastebin your pxelinux.cfg/default
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<pycoderf>
if i could i would but i can't copy paste from my vm
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but essentially its still the stock file
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no changed
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<alkisg>
apt-get install pastebinit; pastebinit file
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The stock of 12.04 or of 14.04? They're different
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<pycoderf>
12.04
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<alkisg>
OK so update it
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<pycoderf>
but i did ltsp-update-kernels
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and it shows the new kerne;
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<alkisg>
Is your chroot now 14.04?
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...check etc/issue
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<pycoderf>
yes
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chroot is 14.04
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<alkisg>
Upgraded, or new?
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<pycoderf>
upgraded
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<alkisg>
Maybe update-kernels.conf in the chroot then...
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<pycoderf>
where is that
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<alkisg>
etc/ltsp
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<pycoderf>
and what am i supposed to update to? would this be easier to just make a new client image?
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<alkisg>
No idea, you need to pastebin files if we're to help with "what to update and how easy it will be"
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<pycoderf>
i would if i could copy/paste froma vm but i cant
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<alkisg>
scp it, pastebin it etc
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I already suggested that
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<pycoderf>
ok
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ok so which file do you want?
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<alkisg>
chroot/etc/ltsp/update-kernels.conf
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<pycoderf>
alkisg: http://pastebin.com/KQNviYS4
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<alkisg>
That is ok, now chroot/boot/ltsp
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<pycoderf>
i dont have ltsp in /boot in the chroot
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<alkisg>
sorry, boot/pxelinux.cfg/ltsp
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Or better yet, pxelinux.cfg/default there
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(it'ssupposed to be a symlink to ltsp)
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(so it might not exist, if so, paste ltsp)
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<pycoderf>
http://pastebin.com/NBpetvBg
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<alkisg>
That's ok too, is that the same as tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default ?
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<pycoderf>
diff showed me nothing so it should be
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<alkisg>
OK, back to nbd on the server: pastebin this: grep -r . /etc/nbd-*
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<pycoderf>
http://pastebin.com/EN4C0rAx
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<alkisg>
!nbd-client
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<ltsp>
nbd-client: To try mounting the NBD image from the client initramfs: nbd-client 192.168.67.1 -N /opt/ltsp/i386 /dev/nbd0
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<alkisg>
When you tried that one, did you put your server ip there?
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<pycoderf>
yes
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let me try again
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negotiation size 496MB
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<alkisg>
so what changed from the previous time?
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<pycoderf>
i did a do-release-upgrade on the server
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then did that on the client as well as upgrade and dist-upgrade
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<alkisg>
No, from then:
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(07:24:28 μμ) alkisg: What did the nbd-client mount command report?
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(07:25:59 μμ) pycoderf: alkisg: server closed connection
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<pycoderf>
ltsp-update image and update-kernels
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then boom
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start over for that
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im not following
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<alkisg>
We spend 40 minutes troubleshooting nbd because you said "server closed connection"
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But now you're saying it does connect
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<pycoderf>
am i looking on the server or client i am not very confused as i am frustrated with this issue
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plus that was almost an hour ago
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<alkisg>
Right, we lost 40 minutes for that
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<pycoderf>
in any case
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<alkisg>
Anyway, if nbd works, then the problem is in the command line or in dhcp
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In the client initramfs, check /run/net*.conf, the line about ROOTSERVER
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Is that your server's ip?
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<pycoderf>
i dont have a /run
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wait
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when i do ls /run on the initramfs ntohing shows up
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<alkisg>
OK, back to the server, in pxelinux.cfg/default, add "break=mount" at the line where "quiet splash" is or was
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Reboot client, you should get an initramfs shell now before the nbd mount command
17:14
Try again `ls /run` there
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<pycoderf>
ok now i see folders
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initramfs, udev, plymouth
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<alkisg>
How about something like net-eth0.conf ?
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<pycoderf>
not in /run
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just those folders
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<alkisg>
in /tmp?
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<pycoderf>
nothing there
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<alkisg>
run: ip a
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<pycoderf>
no ip listed
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<alkisg>
now run: ipconfig
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<pycoderf>
no devices to configure
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<alkisg>
ipconfig eth0
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<pycoderf>
root server = ip of my server
17:19
<alkisg>
ls /run/net*
17:19
You have a net-eth0.conf now?
17:19
<pycoderf>
yes
17:19
<alkisg>
type: exit
17:19
Does it boot now?
17:20
<pycoderf>
"Insufficient information to setup nbd"
17:20
and then same error
17:20
<alkisg>
In ipconfig, did you get the rootpath=/opt/ltsp/i386 ?
17:20
<pycoderf>
yes
17:21
<alkisg>
Type the things beside "insufficient information"
17:21
<pycoderf>
it already scrolled past
17:21
<alkisg>
What was the nbd server, rootpath etc that it mentions there
17:21
Hmm
17:21
<pycoderf>
they were blank there
17:21
<alkisg>
Shift +page up?
17:21
<pycoderf>
yeah those are blank
17:21
<alkisg>
All of them?!
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17:21
<pycoderf>
except nbd-device
17:22
which is /dev/nbd0
17:22
<alkisg>
Is /run/net-eth0.conf still available? cat it
17:22
<pycoderf>
no longer available
17:22
<alkisg>
OK, re-do that once more, reboot, run ipconfig eth0, cat net-eth0.conf
17:23
Is your client and server i386?
17:23
Or amd64?
17:23
<pycoderf>
i catted it and it is filled in correctly
17:23
server is 64 bit image is 386
17:23
this is how it was setup previously
17:23
and worked
17:23
<alkisg>
And rootpath is i386, not amd64, correct?
17:23
<pycoderf>
yes
17:24
ROOTPATH='/opt/ltsp/i386'
17:24
<alkisg>
and, cat /proc/cmdline, what does it say about nbd there?
17:24
Only root=/dev/nbd0 ?
17:24
<pycoderf>
yes
17:27
i think the update just borked it
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<alkisg>
Update or not, with the correct command line and dhcp information, nbd was supposed to correctly mount the image
17:32
<pycoderf>
which fails
17:32
<alkisg>
Right, so it's either an nbd initramfs script bug, or some wrong information between us due to irc
17:32
<pycoderf>
but i gave you all the configs and errors
17:32
<alkisg>
(and not debugging this hands-on)
17:32
<pycoderf>
i am going to try and scrap all images and just start clean
17:33
<alkisg>
E.g. I haven't seen the command line
17:33
I haven't seen net-eth0.conf, etc
17:33
<pycoderf>
better yet will do it on a clean server install of 14.04
17:33
<alkisg>
OK
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<daniel_3000>
hello
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22:41
<daniel_3000>
i have a cuestion about to LTSP
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23:03
<ajbotani>
Good night! Does anyone know a solution to use the new LTSP with older terminals that do not support PAE?
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