IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 23 November 2019 (all times are UTC)
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| 08:10 | <jinnjus> Hi alkisg
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| 08:10 | <alkisg> Hi jinnjus
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| 08:11 | <jinnjus> so I was looking at the html for the irc logs site...
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| 08:11 | <alkisg> Ah great, do you have any help there?
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| 08:11 | <jinnjus> I thought fixing some css would be fast and easy for you
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| 08:11 | <alkisg> Right
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| 08:11 | <jinnjus> buit it looks like you are missing the header and footer for the page
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| 08:11 | <alkisg> Previously it was getting the template via php get
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| 08:11 | Hyperbyte had done that
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| 08:12 | Do we want to share a header/footer now?
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| 08:12 | Or should it have an uncompletely unrelated css?
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| 08:12 | <jinnjus> I have the old header and footer, but they need updating obviosly
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| 08:13 | <alkisg> Yes, I don't think we need benefits/stories etc currently
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| 08:13 | I guess we only need links to the irc channel and to the main site
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| 08:13 | (from irclogs, that is)
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| 08:13 | <jinnjus> right...I have been trying to decide what to do about that...
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| 08:13 | <alkisg> The current theme of ltsp.org has the "menu" to the left, while irclogs had it to the top
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| 08:14 | <jinnjus> I think that should stay consistent
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| 08:14 | I haven't looked....do you know if you can insert iframes in your markdown?
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| 08:14 | <alkisg> Markdown could get html, but how would that work?
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| 08:15 | <jinnjus> that won't help with css though...
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| 08:15 | <alkisg> I see two options
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| 08:15 | One is to ignore the ltsp.org theme and just put a small top bar in irclogs; or even without a bar, just 2 links, "join irc" and "main site"
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| 08:16 | The second is to try to clone the theme of ltsp.org in irclogs
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| 08:16 | <jinnjus> I was thinking option 2
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| 08:16 | <alkisg> In that, I do not like the fact that the left side grows too much on wide screens
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| 08:16 | It's ok when reading man pages, but I think that I wouldn't like it when reading irclogs, it would waste too much space
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| 08:16 | I'm not sure about that though
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| 08:17 | <jinnjus> that could be limited in css easily
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| 08:17 | <alkisg> OK
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| 08:17 | So, we could just clone the theme and have the same links there, independently maintained from the site theme
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| 08:17 | I.e. if I ever changed the links in ltsp.org, I would have to change them in irclogs too
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| 08:18 | <jinnjus> yeah...I don't like that but I don't see another way
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| 08:19 | regardless...sounds like I need to write you some new header and footer files
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| 08:19 | <alkisg> The other way is to have irclogs pushed on github, and periodically published like a site, in the same way as ltsp.org, with jekyll
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| 08:19 | But I don't think it's worth the trouble
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| 08:20 | So, for that option 2, I'm thinking maybe we could just copy the html output of https://ltsp.org/, and have our php replace the content with the logs
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| 08:21 | I don't know if that's called "replacing" or "header/footer"... I think we're talking about the same thing
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| 08:21 | <jinnjus> I think that's the way to go
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| 08:21 | <alkisg> (except it would have IRC channel in black bold, i.e. selected, instead of About, and also restricted width in left column)
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| 08:21 | Great Jason! Thanks a lot!
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| 08:21 | <jinnjus> yes...well the php I have has the top and bottom of the page broken out into header and footer files....so the "head" section of html plus a portion of the body are missing
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| 08:23 | I will try writing some quick replacements so there is a place to put css link
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| 08:24 | if I post this in a github repo will it be ok? do I need to worry about posting any of the old code publicly?
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| 08:24 | <alkisg> It should be fine, as long as it doesn't contain passwords, not even hashed ones
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| 08:24 | I don't think Hyperbyte would have any objection to that
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| 08:24 | Hmm also maybe the headers there could say "search irclogs" instead of "search ltsp", and "Join IRC" instead of "LTSP on github"
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| 08:25 | ...search LTSP wouldn't work from a different subdomain, would it?
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| 08:25 | And we'll need another link in the menu, one for IRC channel that already exists, and one for IRC logs
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| 08:26 | Unless we can find a clever way to join them in a single menu
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| 08:26 | jinnjus: I can put you in the ltsp team, and create a repo for the irclogs site
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| 08:27 | <jinnjus> oh...I have no idea how the search etc is implemented....
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| 08:27 | <alkisg> And give you access there, if you want
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| 08:27 | <jinnjus> that would help sure
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| 08:27 | <alkisg> What's your github handle, the same?
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| 08:28 | I think a jekyll module collects all the words, organizes them in a javascript-based pseudo-database,and then it's up to javascript
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| 08:28 | <jinnjus> it is jkinney23 on github
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| 08:28 | <alkisg> Hyperbyte had implemented search functionality in irclogs, maybe we can use the Search LTSP box for Search IRC logs instead
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| 08:30 | <jinnjus> I will try to see how that is all wired together...more fun for me ;)
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| 08:30 | <alkisg> jinnjus: invitation sent; welcome to the team! :)
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| 08:31 | I already have an irclogs repository, will give you access there, prepare whatever you want there and I'll try to help as much as I can
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| 08:31 | https://github.com/ltsp/irclogs
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| 08:32 | <jinnjus> OK...let me go take a look
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| 08:32 | <alkisg> Ignore my readme, as we'll be using a web server instead of github to host the logs
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| 08:32 | Accept the invitation first so that I can give you permissions
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| 08:32 | <jinnjus> done
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| 08:37 | <alkisg> #$(*&# can't make the github web interface for permissions work #$#&(*$
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| 08:37 | ...googling about it again...
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| 08:37 | <jinnjus> lol
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| 08:40 | <alkisg> jinnjus: yey, I think I managed to do it, you're the "maintainer" of the irclogs repository, I think it should give you plenty of access
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| 08:41 | <jinnjus> maintainer...omg...I hope I am ready
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| 08:41 | :)
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| 08:42 | there are just txt files now...
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| 08:42 | do you also have php files from the server?
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| 08:42 | or if I write some and post in the repo can you get them to the server?
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| 08:43 | <alkisg> jinnjus: you should still have access to the old server, along with all the php files there,
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| 08:43 | <jinnjus> oh!
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| 08:43 | <alkisg> and if you push them to the repo, i can clone them to the new server
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| 08:43 | (but make sure they don't contain passwords/hashes etc)
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| 08:43 | server.ltsp.org still points to the old server
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| 08:44 | ...wiki.ltsp.org too
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| 08:44 | <jinnjus> let me see....back in a few
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| 08:49 | <jinnjus> no irc code is in the server directory for apache...is it hiding somewhere else?
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| 08:53 | <alkisg> jinnjus: ah sorry yes in /home/bot/
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| 08:54 | Let me get the exact dir
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| 08:54 | jinnjus: /home/bot/www
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| 08:55 | <jinnjus> got it...and there are some more header and footer files....let me see
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| 09:03 | <jinnjus> interesting....the header and footer files are there but incomplete...
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| 09:04 | no matter. I will file something up :)
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| 09:04 | *fix
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| 09:06 | <alkisg> jinnjus: I think Hyperbyte was getting the header using something like 'wget' in php, so the real header/footer was in the main site, not in irclogs www
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| 09:06 | But yeah it shouldn't matter now
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| 09:07 | <jinnjus> interesting...ok...let me see what I can unscramble
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| 09:08 | my batteries are fully charged so I should be good to work for the weekend on this...will get back
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| 11:06 | <jinnjus> ok...I added the backend and old css to the irclogs repo
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| 11:06 | that should get you started
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| 11:07 | I didn't actually touch any css yet...just added back the old foundation css that was there before
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| 11:07 | let me know what needs tweaking
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| 12:33 | <alkisg> jinnjus: hey, MUCH better, thanks a lot! :)
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| 12:33 | <jinnjus> cool, no problem :)
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| 12:34 | <alkisg> I
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| 12:34 | <jinnjus> now to get to work seeing how to integrate with the jekll theme :)
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| 12:34 | <alkisg> I'm even OK if it stays that way; but if you have time for this ^, sure, most welcome
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| 12:35 | <jinnjus> I will see what I can do to clean it up for sure
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| 12:36 | do you actually need that google analytics stuff that is there?
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| 21:09 | <eu^client-pool-9> Hi I have epoptes SSL error when trying start epopter service on server. This happened after s update of debian a few month ago
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| 21:14 | <alkisg> eu^client-pool-9: can you pastebin the message?
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| 21:14 | <eu^client-pool-9> https://pastebin.com/3cfb3yZW
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| 21:14 | <alkisg> This is part of the error, but anyway, output of this? ls -l /etc/epoptes
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| 21:15 | <eu^client-pool-9> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 891 ноя 24 00:05 server.crt-rw------- 1 root root 916 ноя 24 00:05 server.key
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| 21:16 | <alkisg> This doesn't seem very correct... better regenerate the keys. One way is: apt purge epoptes; apt install epoptes
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| 21:16 | <eu^client-pool-9> ok
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| 21:16 | thx
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| 21:16 | <alkisg> np
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