IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 18 February 2017   (all times are UTC)

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06:34
<alkisg>
syrius: afaik the opensuse ltsp maintainer starter preferring ubuntu's ltsp-pnp since last summer or so ;)
06:34
100 mbit is completely fine for at least 5 fat clients
06:35
*started
06:36
<syrius>
thanks
06:36
not thin?
06:36
<alkisg>
What are your client specs, pentium 3?
06:36
If they have enough power to run the OS locally, it's surely better to use them as ltsp fat clients
06:37
both thin and fat are diskless
06:37
<syrius>
hmm okay
06:37
<alkisg>
We refer to clients with local installations as "standalone", while "fat" is for diskless, netbooted clients
06:37
<syrius>
rhwy are celeron i think
06:37
but i tested on my laptop
06:37
<alkisg>
Celeron from 2000 or celeron from 2010?
06:38
How much RAM?
06:38
<syrius>
abd it wasnt much better
06:38
laptop is good specs
06:38
<alkisg>
You tested ltsp-pnp in fat mode on a laptop?
06:38
And it wasn't good enough?
06:38
<syrius>
rpi2 as well. decent. but x11 forwarding single windows is better
06:38
no
06:38
didnt test fat
06:39
<alkisg>
How much RAM do the clients have?
06:39
We've tested all methods all those years
06:39
Fat is the way to go, if you have more than 512 mb ram
06:39
<syrius>
1gb i think. maybe 512 since they wwre purposed for thin
06:39
ok we can upgrade too
06:40
ill need to try fat
06:40
<alkisg>
!ltsp-pnp
06:40
<ltsp>
ltsp-pnp: ltsp-pnp is an alternative (upstream) method to maintain LTSP installations for thin and fat clients that doesn't involve chroots: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ltsp-pnp
06:40
<alkisg>
Try that, it needs less than 1 hour to set it up, including the os installation
06:42
<syrius>
great thanks alkisg.
06:56
alkisg: do you know if this is possible on an opensuse server though? csn't really change the os right now
06:56
or is there something that would make it specific to ubuntu?
07:03
<alkisg>
syrius: I think opensuse had support for ltsp-pnp, although they additionally use some different tools like kiwi, so I don't know how easy it is to set that up
07:04
It might need 1 hour or it might need 1 day; dunno
07:09
<syrius>
no worries. appreciate the help
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07:13
<Sangameshwar>
once the ltsp server is configured, how could i connect from client to a windows server?
07:13
<alkisg>
Sangameshwar: do you also need a linux session on the client, or just windows?
07:15
<Sangameshwar>
from the client, how can we connect to a windows server? is there any procedure access windows server session from ltsp client.
07:16
<alkisg>
Sangameshwar: do you want to login to gnome, and whenever you want to connect to windows, to use a menu,
07:16
or do you want to connect to windows directly, without gnome?
07:18
To connect to windows you usually run `xfreerdp`
07:20
<Sangameshwar>
ok, is there any procedure to get windows server?
07:20
to do so, what changes are to be done in LTSP server
07:21
<alkisg>
Sangameshwar: yes, there is, but you need to speak english to communicate... :/
07:21
You didn't answer the question, if you want to run xfreerdp with or without a linux session
07:21
Do you have someone near you that speaks english, to help you communicate here?
07:22
<Sangameshwar>
i am sorry,
07:22
no
07:22
<alkisg>
What is your native language?
07:22
<Sangameshwar>
telugu
07:22
<alkisg>
Do you know what lts.conf is?
07:23
<Sangameshwar>
yes, i tried to configure the LTSP server in 2010 in Fedora destro.
07:24
<alkisg>
Which distro are you using now?
07:25
<Sangameshwar>
that time, i used a pentium-III machine with a PCI network card of RTL family.
07:25
I was hang up with client booting.
07:25
After a long time, I revisited this site.
07:26
<alkisg>
Do you have a server installation now? If yes, what distribution are you using?
07:26
<Sangameshwar>
I want to use Ubuntu.
07:26
<alkisg>
OK
07:26
!ubuntu-mate
07:26
<ltsp>
ubuntu-mate: Ubuntu-mate works very well with LTSP, even with older clients. Download the 64-bit version if *all* your clients have >= 2GB RAM, otherwise download the 32-bit version. http://ubuntu-mate.org/download/
07:27
<alkisg>
Go there and download the 32bit version, install it, then come back here again
07:27
Here is a tutorial:
07:27
!ltsp-pnp
07:27
<ltsp>
ltsp-pnp: ltsp-pnp is an alternative (upstream) method to maintain LTSP installations for thin and fat clients that doesn't involve chroots: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ltsp-pnp
07:27
<Sangameshwar>
ok, thank you
07:27
<alkisg>
Follow that tutorial
07:27
When the clients boot from ltsp, come here again to learn about xfreerdp to connect to windows
07:28
<Sangameshwar>
definitely
07:28
<alkisg>
Download this CD: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-mate/releases/xenial/release/ubuntu-mate-16.04.2-desktop-i386.iso
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13:26
<al-geo>
!ltsp-chroot
13:26
<ltsp>
ltsp-chroot: you can download ltsp-chroot from http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ltsp-upstream/ltsp/ltsp-trunk/view/head:/server/scripts/debian/ltsp-chroot
13:29
<alkisg>
Eeer no don't do that :D
13:29
!forget ltsp-chroot
13:29
<ltsp>
The operation succeeded.
13:30
<al-geo>
alkisg did install ltsp-pnp with your tutorial and everything works fine (so far :D ) but i didnt find hot to chroot and change something on /opt/ltsp/images/i386.img
13:30
<alkisg>
You change it to your server, and then run ltsp-update-image -c / again
13:32
<al-geo>
but i want to change the way clients boot, autostart my script and many more. how to do that? P.S. sorry for my poor english
13:36
<alkisg>
al-geo: give specific examples
13:36
To autostart a script, you put it to e.g. /usr/local/bin on the server, and then you call it in RCFILE_01=/usr/local/bin/myscript in lts.conf
13:36
That's for boot scripts, while for login scripts there's /etc/xdg/autostart
13:37
<al-geo>
alkisg i want to remove all wms and dms, install only xfwm4 and xinit, autostart my app with xfwm4 --replace option
13:40
<alkisg>
Right, do all those on the server
13:40
Then just run ltsp-update-image -c /
13:40
al-geo: ^
13:41
Whatever you would do in the chroot, just do it in /
13:41
<al-geo>
what if i will have to reboot my server ? :D
13:42
<alkisg>
Reboot it, where's the problem in that?
13:42
You think that a chroot would survive server reboots?!
13:42
If you want to have a different system on the server vs the clients, then you need a chroot
13:42
But do you?
13:43
<al-geo>
yes i do
13:43
how
13:44
<alkisg>
OK, then unzip your existing chroot: sudo unsquashfs -d /opt/ltsp/i386 /opt/ltsp/images/i386.img
13:44
(or something like that)
13:44
And then never use ltsp-update-image -c / again
13:44
Only use ltsp-chroot and ltsp-update-image
13:45
<al-geo>
wow. THANK YOU VERY VERY MUCH
13:45
:D
13:45
if i'l stack i will ask you again ok?
13:46
<alkisg>
Eh, I don't really support non ltsp-pnp installations :D
13:48
<al-geo>
you mean not to unsquashfs ?
13:48
:D
13:48
but i really want to
13:48
<alkisg>
Sure, do it, I'm not saying that you shouldn't
13:48
But personally I only care about ltsp-pnp because that's what I use
13:49
Others can use whatever they need, np fro mme
13:49
<al-geo>
:D you are a good man. :D
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18:04
<eu^109-161-69-12>
Hello! Can anybody help with Epoptes?
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