IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 2 April 2015   (all times are UTC)

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03:01
<MarconM>
Hey \o
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04:46
<alkisg>
Good morning
04:48
<MarconM>
alkisg: good night
04:48
<alkisg>
:)
04:48
<MarconM>
rsrs
04:49
alkisg: building the chroot =D
04:49
sudo debootstrap --variant=buildd --arch i386 wheezy http://furc.debian.org/
04:49
\o/
04:50
<alkisg>
What is furc?!
04:50
And, debootstrap instead of ltsp-build-client? ...
04:50
Cool, if those work for you...
04:54
<MarconM>
alkisg: just testing
04:54
alkisg: xD
04:55
i ll try ltsp on lubuntu 15.04
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11:45
<J____>
looking for help on PiNet-ltsp
11:46
<alkisg>
Check if gbaman is available...
11:47
<gbaman>
J____: What's up?
11:50
<J____>
Having a problem with the machine not making it to the login. INITRAMFS prompt is available but /sbin/init-ltsp error exists
11:50
all the root files are on /root/rofs
11:51
<gbaman>
Have you checked the cmdline.txt file to check the IP address is the same as that of the server?
11:52
As described here? http://pinet.org.uk/articles/troubleshooting/boot-issues.html
11:53
<J____>
yes, it connects to the server
11:53
<gbaman>
as in you can ping it?
11:54
<J____>
can ping server from pi init prompt
11:54
<gbaman>
Ok, and you did check the cmdline.txt file IP address is correct?
11:55
<J____>
yes it is correct
11:55
<gbaman>
Ok
11:55
Can you open a terminal on the server and type ls /opt/ltsp/armhf
11:55
And is there a file/folder there called debootstrap?
11:56
brb
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11:58
<J____>
does not exist
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12:11
<gbaman>
back
12:11
J____: Are you saying the folder /opt/ltsp/armhf does not exist?
12:11
<J____>
nice so the file/folder debootstrap does not exist
12:11
<gbaman>
Ah, ok
12:12
So there is a whole collection of folders in there then?
12:12
(aka more than 4)
12:12
<J____>
yes
12:12
<gbaman>
Hmm
12:12
<J____>
it looks like a full installs worth of data
12:13
<gbaman>
Just to check btw, you are running PiNet and not Raspi-LTSP?
12:13
(Will say at top of control panel)
12:13
<J____>
that same data can be seen on the Pi but only on the /root/rofs not the /
12:13
yes PiNet 1.0.2
12:14
<gbaman>
Can you take a picture of the startup on the Pi, showing any errors and fire it over to the support email?
12:17
Or upload to imgur etc
12:17
<J____>
umm unfortunately not at work
12:18
I may be able to get clever with a VM
12:18
<gbaman>
So you can't test a bootup with a Pi?
12:19
<J____>
I have it running on a Pi but cameras are not allowed
12:20
<gbaman>
Is this setup in a school?
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12:21
<J____>
No but thats why I was attempting it. A possible to solution for a school
12:22
<gbaman>
I need to be able to see if there are any errors on bootup, as by this point, 95%+ of boot issues would be sorted
12:22
<J____>
ok let me see what I can do. I may be able to replicate at home
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<gbaman>
ok, if I am not on IRC, feel free to open a github issue or drop me an email
12:23
<MarconM>
alkisg: morning
12:29
<alkisg>
Hello MarconM
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<exebat>
Hi all
14:15
what would be the best distribution for LTSP ?
14:17
<ogra_>
ubuntu or debian
14:19
<exebat>
I currently use Ubuntu 14.04 but it has a problem with USB devices not being detected on boot until I replug them
14:22
I saw @alkisg mention that ubuntu is not using upstream LTSP but its own implementation so I wanted to ask if there is some way to use a newer version of LTSP on ubuntu
14:23
<ogra_>
err
14:23
ubuntu developed upstream LTSP :)
14:23
it moved into the hands of debian then though ... but gets synced regulary from there
14:24
i think you mix somethin up there ...
14:24
OpenSuSE uses its own implementation ...
14:25
debian and ubuntu always worked together on the upstream code
14:26
<alkisg>
exebat: where did you see me mention that?
14:27
<MarconM>
ogra_:
14:28
he mention that he uses debian
14:28
<ogra_>
MarconM, i know what alkisg uses :)
14:28
<alkisg>
Who uses debian?
14:28
<MarconM>
Me
14:28* alkisg wonders how these people got these impressions...
14:29
<MarconM>
kkkkk
14:29
<ogra_>
haha
14:29
<MarconM>
alkisg: .. sorry was val*
14:29* MarconM fill shame
14:29
<alkisg>
vagrantc is the debian ltsp maintainer, yes
14:29
<MarconM>
alkisg:
14:29
a couple days ... did u say that my problem with that files .. that are missing
14:30
pxelinux.0 bla bla
14:30
was easy too fix
14:30
<alkisg>
All your ltsp problems are easy to fix, except for one...
14:30
...that you can't decide what you want to use :)
14:31
<MarconM>
alkisg: i want to use lubuntu
14:31
<alkisg>
exebat: about usb devices, use a newer kernel
14:31
Although I'm not sure if it's an ubuntu-specific bug, of a version-specific bug
14:32
...but I did try with a vanilla 4.0 kernel and the replug issue wasn't there
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<alkisg>
MarconM: then do use lubuntu, get the 14.04 CD and install it
14:32
<MarconM>
i did
14:32
but i cant boot
14:32
<alkisg>
Do you have it installed now?
14:32
<MarconM>
tftp is not downloaing pxelinux*
14:33
so .. cant boot
14:33
i search a lot of blogs tutorial on google.com ... about that and nothing
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14:33
<alkisg>
Read my last sentence...
14:33
<exebat>
Can you help me with the kernel issue ?
14:34
<alkisg>
exebat: #ubuntu-kernel is the place for that
14:34
<exebat>
Should I update the kernel on host and then update the image ?
14:34
<alkisg>
They'll walk you through what's needed to pinpoint the issue
14:34
exebat: no, you should reproduce the problem without ltsp
14:34
<MarconM>
alkisg: i formated .. i wll install again
14:34
<alkisg>
E.g. with a usb stick or disk on the client that has the issue
14:34
MarconM: please stop talking to me about previous installations, you did that 10 times already
14:35
If you want my help, ping me when you have the issue at hand
14:35
<MarconM>
alkisg: i have .... i just asking .. coz i mention that once
14:35
<exebat>
All the clients have the same issue since I installed 14.04 - it worked just fine on 12.04 on all clients :(
14:35
<MarconM>
i have 10 instalation lubuntu ... but now i am home
14:35
a few hours ago .. i was on job
14:35
i ping u .. but i dind answers
14:35
sorry
14:35
<alkisg>
exebat: I had that issue too but on a remote pc that I couldn't provide good feedback for bug reports
14:36
exebat: do contact the #ubuntu-kernel folks, your issue is quite common
14:36
MarconM: as I copy/pasted yesterday, I did answer even 5 days ago, but then you left
14:36
See the irc logs
14:36
<MarconM>
ok
14:37
<alkisg>
(03:23:29 μμ) MarconM: alkisg: morning
14:37
(03:29:36 μμ) alkisg: Hello MarconM
14:37
This was "a few hours ago"
14:37
Then you left again
14:38
<MarconM>
alkisg: my work .. the internet is not good "10kb/s"
14:38
and fall all the time
14:38
<exebat>
@alkisg just one more question - what version of ubuntu/debian do you recommend as most stable for ltsp ?
14:38
<alkisg>
MarconM: ok, just don't tell me that I didn't answer
14:39
<MarconM>
i took the HD and bring to my home .. to install here
14:39
<alkisg>
exebat: debian jessie, ubuntu gnome-flashback 12.04, ubuntu mate 14.04.2...
14:39
<MarconM>
alkisg: ok .. u are right
14:40
<alkisg>
Err, for 12.04 you'd also need our greek schools ppa
14:40
<MarconM>
alkisg: lubuntu 14.04 ok ?
14:41
ops .. 14.10 alternative
14:41
amd64
14:42
<alkisg>
!ltsp-pnp
14:42
<ltsp>
ltsp-pnp: ltsp-pnp is an alternative (upstream) method to maintain LTSP installations for thin and fat clients that doesn't involve chroots: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ltsp-pnp
14:43
<alkisg>
MarconM: use 14.04 i386 and that one ^
14:43
The desktop cd
14:43
<MarconM>
ok
14:44
<exebat>
One more thing - do you maybe know what error: unexpectedly disconnected from boot status daemon means ?
14:45
<alkisg>
exebat: ignore that, it's plymouth not terminating like it wants
14:46
<exebat>
but my clients wont boot - just installed clean 12.04 with epoptes and created image and I get this :|
14:46
and Gave up waiting for root device
14:46
<alkisg>
Are you using the greek schools ppa?
14:47
!greek-schools
14:47
<ltsp>
I do not know about 'greek-schools', but I do know about these similar topics: 'greek-schools-ppa'
14:47
<alkisg>
!greek-schools-ppa
14:47
<ltsp>
greek-schools-ppa: https://launchpad.net/~ts.sch.gr/+archive/ppa/ supports LTS Ubuntu releases with newer LTSP versions, bug fixes etc
14:47
<exebat>
yes
14:47
and ltsp-pnp
14:47
<alkisg>
What version?
14:47
Err sorry, kernel version
14:48
3.2 or 3.13?
14:48
<MarconM>
alkisg: what is pnp version
14:49
<alkisg>
MarconM: read the link I gave you
14:49
<MarconM>
pnp version doenst download ...
14:49
it clone the actual install
14:49
<exebat>
3.11.0-15 generic
14:49
<alkisg>
Yes
14:50
exebat: install 3.13, i.e. linux-hwe-generic
14:51
bbiab
14:51
<exebat>
I will try now - thanks a lot
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<MarconM>
exebat:
18:28
<exebat>
yes ?
18:28
Does anyone knows what might be the problem with "/dev/ndb0 does not exist"
18:29
fresh 12.04 installation (tried 2 times)
18:29
ltsp-pnp
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<MarconM>
exebat: sorry i wanst here
18:44
exebat: are u trying on 12.04
18:44
is LTS ?
18:44
i am trying on lubuntu 14.04 amd64
18:56
<exebat>
use x86 version or i386
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<MarconM>
exebat: the build is on i386
19:03
i got a error
19:04
:'(
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<exebat>
I did one more clean install and I still have the same problem :(
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<vsuojanen>
exebat did you ltsp-build-client ? do you use nbdroot in kernel cmdline?
20:11
don't reinstall everytime you hit problem. it's not windows
20:17
the nbd0 is created somewhere in initramfs scripts before the nbdroot is mounted there in the nbd0. you have something wrong in kerne/initrd params or in the initramfs. i think so
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<MarconM>
exebat:
23:36
are u there
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