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Channel log from 22 November 2011   (all times are UTC)

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06:40
<muppis>
Morning.
06:41
<alkisg>
Good morning
06:41
<muppis>
Now I'm trying to wake up and find a correct place to patch to apply for mac based hostnames. :)
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08:03
<alkisg>
Does anyone have experience with x2godesktopsharing? Is it faster than vnc?
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08:07
<muppis>
Hmm. Funny. Dnsmasq makes a A record for client name, but it doesn't use it. Maybe wrong domain.
08:08
<alkisg>
You do have 127.0.0.1 as your first dns server, right?
08:09
<muppis>
Sure, but dnsmasq forwards the request.
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08:09
<alkisg>
It worked out of the box for me...
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08:50
<muppis>
reply ltsp191 is NXDOMAIN-IPv4
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09:47
<muppis>
I just don't understand. Can't get dnsmasq working right now.
09:48
<alkisg>
muppis: put break=bottom in pxelinux.cfg/default, and then run: udhcpc -h hostname
09:48
That way you'll be sure that the client side is ok
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09:55
<muppis>
Does the same thing.
09:56
Dnsmasq log: reply ltsp191 is NXDOMAIN-IPv4
09:56
<alkisg>
dig @localhost ltsp191
09:56
Also check the dhcp logs
09:56
You do have dnsmasq as dhcp server too, right?
09:56
You should be seeing a "client provides name=ltsp191" there
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10:49
<muppis>
Dnsmasq handles all but nbd.
10:50
http://pastebin.com/d5TVtTig
10:51
<alkisg>
ov 22 12:51:30 alkis dnsmasq-dhcp[1181]: 1881549426 client provides name: iamathinclient
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10:51
<alkisg>
I don't see that in your paste
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10:52
<alkisg>
I did that with break=bottom, and udhcpc -h iamathinclient
10:52
Which ubuntu version are you using?
10:53
<muppis>
10.04
10:53
<alkisg>
Me too
10:54
Nov 22 12:51:30 alkis dnsmasq-dhcp[1181]: 1881549426 Available DHCP subnet: 10.160.31.10/255.255.255.0
10:54
Nov 22 12:51:30 alkis dnsmasq-dhcp[1181]: 1881549426 client provides name: iamathinclient
10:54
Nov 22 12:51:30 alkis dnsmasq-dhcp[1181]: 1881549426 Vendor class: udhcp 0.9.9-pre
10:54
That's mine, here's yours:
10:54
Nov 22 12:00:31 levy1 dnsmasq-dhcp[31131]: 3202987389 Available DHCP range: 10.1.0.20 -- 10.1.0.200
10:54
Nov 22 12:00:31 levy1 dnsmasq-dhcp[31131]: 3202987389 Vendor class: udhcp 0.9.9-pre
10:55
You're missing the line in the middle. Are you sure you ran udhcpc -h hostname manually?
10:59
<muppis>
Yes, and it gives Lease failed:
11:04
<alkisg>
That's the problem then, you need to find out why the lease fails
11:06
<muppis>
What the h.... It started working.
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11:07
<muppis>
Must be something wrong now.
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11:10
<muppis>
Now dnsmasq make a record, but still forwards the query.
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11:17
<irctc076>
Hi,
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11:18
<irctc076>
Am using Edubuntu 11.10. Am getting a fatal error when usin Sabayon when I go to edit a profile. Error message tells me to send a file I have not got in a folder that does not exist to bugzilla.
11:19
I need Sabayon. Anybody any suggestions how to overcome this problem ?
11:19
<muppis>
alkisg, should that break be inline with append?
11:20
<irctc076>
Yes it should... Apologies.
11:21
<alkisg>
irctc076: sabayon is pretty much unmaintained, if you need it then install 10.04
11:22
muppis: ipappend goes in a second line, while break=mount gets along with the other kernel parameters
11:23
<irctc076>
Thank you. Is there anything else you are aware of that I could use with 11.1 That would do the same thing ?
11:24
<alkisg>
You could use gsettings mandatory settings. I don't know of any GUI for that.
11:24
<ogra_>
dconf-editor
11:24
from dconf-tools
11:25
<alkisg>
Nice - but it's not a GUI in the sabayon sense, right?
11:25
<ogra_>
no, more like gconf-editor
11:25
<alkisg>
Gotcha. So you can't create menus, panels, wallpapers etc and the select "enforce those on these groups"
11:25
<ogra_>
(and to my knowledge currently the only gui you can use with gsettings/dconf)
11:26
<alkisg>
But well, since sabayon is unmaintained... :)
11:28
<irctc076>
Thanks, I shall have a look at what you have suggested. Does epoptes Overseer do the same thing. do you know ?
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11:41
<muppis>
Puuh.. I give it up for now.
11:42
<alkisg>
muppis: are you using dnsmasq as a normal dhcp server, or as a proxy dhcp server?
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11:50
<muppis>
alkisg, normal.
11:50
<alkisg>
OK. It doesn't work in proxydhcp mode for me, but it works fine in normal mode.
11:50
<muppis>
udhcpc just doesn't provide the hostname.
11:50
<alkisg>
And if the client does a second request with a different hostname, dnsmasq instantly forgets the old name
11:51
Try with dhclient then
11:51
udhcpc doesn't provide the hostname by default, you need to run it manually, right?
11:52
<muppis>
When runned manually it hangs. dhclient works.
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11:55
<muppis>
I ended up to use ethers file for names, and it meet my requirements for now.
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12:08
<andygraybeal>
morning
12:10
<muppis>
Can I brdige client's nics?
12:10
Bridge..
12:12
<alkisg>
Netbooted client NICs? AFAIK no, unless you write custom code for that
12:13
<andygraybeal>
muppis, curious, can you tell me what the situation would be to do that?
12:13
<muppis>
andygraybeal, client is host for kvm virtuals.
12:14
<andygraybeal>
muppis, nice
12:14
<muppis>
And virtuals boot from iSCSI.
12:14
<andygraybeal>
nice, so a san machine?
12:15
<muppis>
Can be called that. :) Bunch of HP DL380's
12:16
<andygraybeal>
muppis, nice
12:17
expensive :)
12:17
<muppis>
Actually comes cheaper than keeping all hosts diskfull. :)
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12:51
<Guest35216>
hi,
12:51
When i boot with dhcp floppy works fine, when i try to use static boot
12:52
TFT prefix is not found??
12:52
Can I set it somehow?
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12:53
<Guest35216>
unable to load configuration file is the exact error
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12:57
<alkisg>
Guest35216: are you the one that I adviced 2 days ago to use an embedded gpxe script?
12:58
<Guest35216>
yes
12:58
exactly
12:58
like i said Ill be back
12:58
<alkisg>
Can you paste the script you use to pastebin?
12:58
!pastebin
12:58
<ltsp>
alkisg: pastebin: the LTSP pastebin is at http://ltsp.pastebin.com. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebin, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. Don't forget to paste the URL of the text here.
12:59
<Guest35216>
i read something about set209/set210 on etherboot but I`m not getting warm with this
13:00
http://pastebin.com/C8wLaH61
13:00
<alkisg>
No, that's not the one I told you to use, let me find it again...
13:01
<Guest35216>
wait no i`ve wanted it a little bit easy
13:01
<alkisg>
http://alkisg.mysch.gr/steki/index.php?topic=1451.msg30596#msg30596
13:01
<Guest35216>
wait this one
13:02
yes i`ll check this right now
13:02
thanx
13:02
<alkisg>
So as you can see you're missing the next-server, the initrd, the ip=static ip info part etc
13:03
You're welcome
13:05
<Guest35216>
compiling! If it takes longer snikers:-D
13:05
<alkisg>
You don't need to compile, just use the rom-o-matic page as mentioned in the post
13:06
(1) Paste script, (2) Click get image, ready
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13:06
<alkisg>
(Unless if you want to use iPXE instead of gPXE)
13:06
Hey jtsop
13:06
<jtsop>
hello
13:06
<alkisg>
Did you manage to get epoptes running?
13:06
<jtsop>
nope
13:07
<alkisg>
What was the output of /usr/sbin/epoptes-client, on the client?
13:08
<Guest35216>
he guys im working with floppy!
13:08
things not so easy
13:08
and fast
13:08
<alkisg>
Why not? I've been working with floppies for years :)
13:08
<jtsop>
I'll see into it tomorrow
13:09
<Guest35216>
forgot to add path to vmlinzu
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13:09
<Guest35216>
momen pls
13:10
<alkisg>
jtsop: ok - and about the installation problem, was it the logoff/logon that is mentioned in the wiki page?
13:14
<Guest35216>
uuu
13:14
now i get not supported /ltsp/i386/vmlinzu
13:15
<alkisg>
You keep writing vmlinzu instead of vmlinuz, I hope you don't mistype it in the script too :)
13:15
What script are you using now?
13:15
<Guest35216>
i have to crash boot with it
13:15
that its ok with the paths
13:15
i uses this greek thing
13:16
I don`t understand how it can work
13:16
because he does not tell any http paths
13:16
so a little strange
13:16
<alkisg>
What http? Are you using http or tftp?
13:17
<Guest35216>
http
13:17
I allways said
13:18
my question was just how to throw out the tftp boot prefix
13:19
<alkisg>
You just said that you didn't want a DHCP server, you didn't say anything about http
13:20
<Guest35216>
yes the few days ago
13:20
:-D
13:20
<alkisg>
So your ltsp server is a remote one, over http? Are you sure you have enough bandwidth for this?
13:20
E.g. 100mbps line?
13:20
<Guest35216>
locally
13:20
only
13:20
no sorry I have tokering:-D
13:20
sorry 100 Mbits
13:22
<alkisg>
http://irclogs.ltsp.org/?d=2011-11-18
13:22
09:59<Guest34754>hi guys
13:22
09:59 if i run a ltsp server
13:22
10:01 anyone trys to boot a client with to a static server without dhcp?
13:22
No mention about http
13:22
<Guest35216>
not at that time
13:22
yes
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13:23
<Guest35216>
i only wanted to push static ips
13:23
now i was interested how this works with static via http
13:23
<alkisg>
OK so now you want to do it with http, too? May I ask why?
13:23
Because you'll lose the lts.conf settings as well
13:23
<Guest35216>
sorry when i dont explained myself probably
13:24
ok
13:24
so you think its better to handle tftp?
13:25
<alkisg>
You never said WHY you want that, so I can't say if it's better or not
13:27
<Guest35216>
accually i thought if i fetch the images i can make it folder like
13:27
for example
13:27
bootpctypeclient/
13:27
..
13:27
and bootpctypeclient2/
13:27
and i don`t have no idea of tftp
13:29
<alkisg>
I didn't understand the reason. Why would you want to make folders? Why are you changing the default installation which uses tftp? Because you don't know how tftp works? Then you'll also change NBD or NFS to HTTP too?
13:29
Which distribution are you using for LTSP?
13:30
<Guest35216>
debian
13:31
<alkisg>
So, to boot the client, you'll need tftp, nfs, inetd, sshfs and a lot of other technologies. Will you replace all those with http?
13:32
The default installation should work for you, there's no need to modify it just because you don't know how a protocol works
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<jtsop>
@alkisg yes, epoptes loads just fine
13:33
<alkisg>
jtsop: nice, could you mark the bug as invalid then, or should I do it?
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<jtsop>
I think you have already done it
13:33
<alkisg>
Nope
13:33
I marked it as "incomplete", which means "requires feedback from the user"
13:33
<jtsop>
ok, ill do it
13:33
<alkisg>
k
13:33
<jtsop>
logon, logoff, reboot,shutdown does not work
13:34
<Guest35216>
hi alksig I `ll have to work some things for sure we will heare us again
13:34
bye
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<alkisg>
jtsop: In epoptes?
13:34
Or in sch-scripts with lxde?
13:34
In epoptes all those should work. On the other hand, sch-scripts only support gnome.
13:38
Also there's no "logon" button anywhere, we haven't started designing/implementing teacher-initiated logon yet.
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<muppis>
Is fstab overwritten during boot?
13:49
<alkisg>
!lts.conf
13:49
<ltsp>
alkisg: lts.conf: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/lts.conf
13:49
<alkisg>
See configure_fstab there
13:51
<muppis>
Hmm..
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<mgariepy>
good morning everyone
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<muppis>
neat. Uncompressed image in 10 seconds.
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<jtsop>
@alkisg sch-scripts (epoptes cannot find any clients)
14:09
<alkisg>
jtsop: for sch-scripts, that's expected behavior, they don't support LXDE, only Gnome
14:10
jtsop: for epoptes, please read the installation page, all the necessary instructions are there
14:10
http://www.epoptes.org/installation
14:10
E.g. you might be missing the "copy certificate" step
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<JerryNJ>
can someone help me out with some pxe/thinclient questions
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<alkisg>
!ask
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<ltsp>
alkisg: ask: Don't ask to ask a question, simply ask it, and if someone knows the answer, they'll respond. Please hang around for at least 15 minutes after asking a question, as not everybody constantly monitors the channel.
14:28
<JerryNJ>
fair enough
14:31
im looking to build a cheap thinclient which will auto boot to an rdp session
14:31
id like to have a hybrid deployment, some CD, some PXE
14:32
ive had some trouble overcoming the quickest easiest method, aside from purchasing new HW
14:34
looking for some guidance
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<alkisg>
The ltsp way is: 1) install ltsp, 2) put SCREEN_07=rdesktop server-ip
14:35
Done
14:35
That's PXE though, it's a bit more difficult to make a bootable CD with LTSP on it, although I once saw one
14:35
The CD is because there's no server around?
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<JerryNJ>
wait a sec
14:38
lets remove the cd from the equation for a moment
14:38
I tried LTSP
14:38
I have a Windows DHCP server
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and I lit up a LTSP box
14:38
but I couldnt get it to boot right
14:39
may I pm?
14:39
<alkisg>
Well, we're here to help you troubleshoot your installation
14:40
Which distro/version are you using?
14:40
<JerryNJ>
im checking - btw how do I check?
14:40
i know its on Ubuntu
14:40
and I installed it yesterday
14:41
<alkisg>
lsb_release -c
14:42
<JerryNJ>
in a cli, yes?
14:43
<alkisg>
Yes
14:44
<JerryNJ>
lucid
14:44
<alkisg>
Good. And what's the error message on your thin client?
14:45
<JerryNJ>
PXE-T01: File Not found
14:46
PXE-E3B: TFTP Error - File Not Found
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<alkisg>
What's the output of this, on your server? ls -l /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386
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<sbalneav>
Morning all
14:49
<JerryNJ>
trying to screenshot it for you
14:51
http://www.picpaste.com/pics/ss1-yMxdiOSV.1321973446.jpg
14:51
there ya go
14:54
<alkisg>
Hi Scotty
14:55
JerryNJ: you can copy/paste the output to pastebin
14:55
!pastebin
14:55
<ltsp>
alkisg: pastebin: the LTSP pastebin is at http://ltsp.pastebin.com. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebin, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. Don't forget to paste the URL of the text here.
14:55
<alkisg>
No need to make screenshots
14:55
OK, and what are the contents of your /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf ?
14:55
<JerryNJ>
how do I check that>?
14:58
<sbalneav>
alkisg: hey ho!
14:58
<alkisg>
JerryNJ: sudo apt-get --yes install pastebinit
14:58
pastebinit /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf
14:58
Write those 2 commands
14:59
sbalneav: how are things going with the libpam-ssh stuff? /me is looking forward to LTSP 6... :D
14:59
<JerryNJ>
http://pastebin.com/H2EPg7wt
14:59
<alkisg>
JerryNJ: no, that didn't help, enter the 2 commands I wrote above
14:59
<JerryNJ>
permission denied
15:00
<alkisg>
Permission denied for what?
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<JerryNJ>
hang on , just read the sudo apt get
15:02
http://pastebin.com/71A7sWX5
15:02
there
15:03
<alkisg>
And the output of this? ip -oneline -family inet addr show
15:03
<JerryNJ>
oh btw, I DONT want to run DHCP from LTSP - we have a Win domain with a DHCP server
15:03
<alkisg>
Well, you do have a dhcpd.conf
15:04
You'd need to uninstall your dhcp server then, and correctly configure your windows dhcp server
15:05
<JerryNJ>
http://pastebin.com/UpB18TA2
15:06
well lets uninstall that then, er whenever your ready
15:07
i appreciate you helping me
15:08
im really lost
15:08
<alkisg>
Here's a wiki page to help you: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPWindowsDHCP
15:10
<JerryNJ>
yes i have followed that, or tried to
15:11
can you help me through getting this working? I will gladly give you access to the box if that would help
15:11
<- dumb windows guy
15:12
<alkisg>
JerryNJ: erm, I already spent too many hours here, and I have a lot of work to do today, so if noone else can give you detailed help, you can try to come back tomorrow
15:13
<JerryNJ>
that sucks
15:13
anone else here?
15:14
er anyone
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<pmatulis>
JerryNJ: sorry, what is your main question?
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<JerryNJ>
guess i need to get rid of dhcpd on the box and i dont know how
15:34
getting these errors on my pxe boot clients
15:34
PXE-T01: File Not found
15:34
PXE-E3B: TFTP Error - File Not Found
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<sbalneav>
alkisg: stgraber, vagrantc and I are going to take a stab at things in December.
15:55
Now that we've got some of the infrastructure in place, what I'm hoping for is that we can kind of get something to "play around with" until next BTS.
15:56
Then at BTS, we can hack hard on polish, and any remaining issues, and get someing issued and stable next November.
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<alkisg>
Sounds like a good plan. I hope we don't hit any lightdm or other dm shortcomings
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<JerryNJ>
can on eof you guys help me out
15:58
er one of you guys
15:58
<alkisg>
JerryNJ: your main problem is a misconfigured windows dhcp server, focus on that question
15:59
You need to set the boot filename AND the next server
15:59
<JerryNJ>
how do I do that?
16:01
<alkisg>
The wiki page I linked above has details, if you can't follow it and noone else here has free time to help you right now, you can probably also ask in #windows, as it's a windows problem, not a linux one
16:03
<sbalneav>
JerryNJ: The link alkisg provided has good instructions. Since you're setting up a windows product (dhcp) there probably won't be many experts on that in this channel. Most of us run exclusively linux.
16:04
JerryNJ: I'd start by reading that wiki page.
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<alkisg>
!j
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<ltsp>
alkisg: j: jammcq!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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<jammcq>
:)
16:04
hi guys
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<sbalneav>
hey jammcq
16:05
<jammcq>
Scotty !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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<JerryNJ>
reread wiki and changed one thing , now I get a different erro
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PXE-E32
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TFTP Open Timeout
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<sbalneav>
JerryNJ: ...and what did you change? That might be useful information :)
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<JerryNJ>
i changed the ltsp/arch/pxelinux.0# to ltsp/arch/pxelinux.0
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<JerryNJ>
which got me farther but to this erro
16:18
r
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<sbalneav>
JerryNJ: "arch" is your architecture
16:20
You probably want:
16:20
ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0
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<sbalneav>
The wiki page even says so:
16:21
'Specify CPU architecture in place of 'arch', for instance 'i386' '
16:22
<JerryNJ>
yes i386
16:23
ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0
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<sbalneav>
So have you changed it now from 'arch' to 'i386'? Does it get farther now?
16:27
<JerryNJ>
yes it gets to error PXE-E32
16:27
"TFTP Open Timeout"
16:28
<sbalneav>
Ok, so what's the IP address of your LTSP server?
16:28
And what have you got option 066 set to on the DHCP server
16:28
?
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<sbalneav>
Dude, I'm at work, and taking time out of my busy day to help you. You need to pick up the pace on these answers a bit.
16:30
<knipwim>
sbalneav: i'm planning to package libnss_sshsock and libpam_sshauth for gentoo
16:31
are they going to be located at lp:~sbalneav/ for a while?
16:31
<sbalneav>
knipwim: Yup
16:31
I've got no plans to move 'em elsewhere.
16:32
at some point, they may move into LTSP mainline, but probably not until next year.
16:32
knipwim: they working for you?
16:32
<knipwim>
the packaging part won't be a problem
16:33
figuring out what to do with them might
16:33
<sbalneav>
heh
16:33
here too:
16:33
They're "foundation" work. We still have to figure out how to build the house on top of 'em. :)
16:34
<JerryNJ>
sbalneav: LTSP server 192.168.51.5
16:34
sbalneav: DHCP server 192.168.51.3
16:34
<sbalneav>
JerryNJ: ok, so your option 066 on the DHCP server should be set to 192.168.51.5 Is is?
16:34
<JerryNJ>
sbalneav: DHCP option 66 - 192.168.51.5
16:34
yep
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<sbalneav>
ok, then we need to check if the tftp server is in fact running on the ltsp server
16:35
<JerryNJ>
kk
16:35
if i knew how I would
16:35
<sbalneav>
What server is this? Ubuntu? Redhat?
16:35
<JerryNJ>
ubuntu
16:35
lucid build
16:35
<sbalneav>
ok, so:
16:36
<knipwim>
sbalneav: i figured as much :) my plan was to wait and see other integrations
16:36
<sbalneav>
first, do a dpkg -l | grep tftpd-hpa
16:36
JerryNJ: Should read:
16:37
ii tftpd-hpa 5.0-11ubuntu2.1 HPA's tftp server
16:37
or similar.
16:37
JerryNJ: Does it?
16:38
<JerryNJ>
looking
16:39
YES
16:40
(sorry for the delay - got dc'ed from this box)
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<sbalneav>
JerryNJ: OK, so lets see if this is working
16:51
<JerryNJ>
kk
16:52
right now - not working
16:52
<sbalneav>
ps -ef | grep tftpd
16:52
what's returned?
16:54
<alkisg>
I think in Lucid tftpd-hpa is started from inetd
16:54
Also there's a tftp troubleshooting page at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/Troubleshooting/TFTP
16:54
<JerryNJ>
veraciti 2392 2362 0 16:53 pts/0
16:55
color=auto tftpd
16:55
<sbalneav>
JerryNJ: ok, so tftpd's not running.
16:55
grep tftpd /etc/inetd.conf
16:56
alkisg: I can never remember anymore
16:56
<JerryNJ>
k, nothing returned
16:56
<alkisg>
Ah "On Lucid, tftpd-hpa is started as a standalone daemon from upstart." ==> I was wrong
16:56
<JerryNJ>
im reading this too
16:56
<alkisg>
sbalneav: I'm using dnsmasq, so... :D
16:56
<sbalneav>
heh
16:56
JerryNJ: sudo start tftpd-hpa
16:56
<JerryNJ>
kk
16:57
<sbalneav>
then the ps line again
16:57
<JerryNJ>
job already running
16:57
<sbalneav>
sudo stop tftpd-hpa
16:57
sudo start tftpd-hpa
16:57
<JerryNJ>
kk
16:58
tftpd stop/waiting
16:58
<sbalneav>
has it hung there, or did the prompt returned?
16:58
<JerryNJ>
prompt returned
16:58
<sbalneav>
did you do the start?
16:59
<JerryNJ>
yes - back at the prompt
16:59
<sbalneav>
ok ps -ef | grep tftpd
17:00
<JerryNJ>
same as earlier
17:00
<JerryNJ> veraciti 2392 2362 0 16:53 pts/0
17:00
<knipwim>
sbalneav: the configure for libnss_sshsock is complaining about "aclocal-1.11: couldn't open directory `m4': No such file or directory"
17:01
shouldn't the m4 be included with the sources?
17:02
<sbalneav>
JerryNJ: pastebinit /etc/default/tftpd-hpa
17:02
knipwim: Humm, that's something I haven't figured out yet.
17:02
<alkisg>
JerryNJ: are you typing the output by hand, instead of copy/pasting?
17:03
<JerryNJ>
http://pastebin.com/CwHjf218
17:04
<alkisg>
You shouldn't put your windows server ip in that file
17:04
Leave the default 0.0.0.0:69 address
17:04
<JerryNJ>
how do I change that?
17:04
<alkisg>
How did you change it in the first place?
17:04
<JerryNJ>
we had someone who had a tiny wee bit of linux knowledge
17:05
<alkisg>
Ah. :-/
17:05
<JerryNJ>
i wish that person was around to change it back
17:05
but he is not
17:06
so can I edit and change that value?
17:08
<alkisg>
Is your ltsp server a remote one, or are you working directly on it?
17:09
<sbalneav>
JerryNJ: yeah, that's the proble,
17:09
should be 0.0.0.0:69
17:10
JerryNJ: yeah, just edit the file.
17:10
<knipwim>
sbalneav: apparently it's a bug in aclocal
17:11
creating an empty m4 dir before calling aclocal fixed the problem
17:11
<sbalneav>
knipwim: It seems silly that I should have to include an empty directory as part of my "distribution" :)
17:11
<JerryNJ>
ok changed it to 0.0.0.0
17:12
and restarted servrvice
17:12
<sbalneav>
JerryNJ: pastebinit again
17:12
so we can see the file
17:13
<knipwim>
sbalneav: true, i can just as easily include the mkdir in the package
17:14
<JerryNJ>
YAY
17:14
<sbalneav>
knipwim: yeah, but it's more work then for packagers. I'm on the fence on this one.
17:14
<JerryNJ>
it totally worked
17:14
<sbalneav>
JerryNJ: there you go.
17:15
knipwim: Can I GPL an empty directory?
17:15
:)
17:15
<knipwim>
hehe
17:15
<sbalneav>
"I hereby grant you the license to create empty directories, so long as you allow others to do the same"
17:15* alkisg hopes noone patents the space where the universe is contained :P
17:15
<sbalneav>
Where do I put the license?
17:16
mkdir "The GNU GPL v 3.0: This license grants you blah blah blah...."
17:17
<JerryNJ>
thank you guys
17:17
so so much
17:17
whats the default creds for the clients
17:18
<knipwim>
sbalneav: in my experience it's common the put the license in a root LICENSE file
17:18
<alkisg>
JerryNJ: you can use any account that you created on the ltsp server, to login on the clients
17:19
Now the next step for you is to read the lts.conf manpage about setting SCREEN_07=rdesktop in lts.conf
17:19
!lts.conf
17:19
<ltsp>
alkisg: lts.conf: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/lts.conf
17:19
<knipwim>
although gentoo doesn't ship the license file from source, but refers to a know license file in the filesystem
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<JerryNJ>
Ack. Now I cant login from the client
17:26
jeez I feel stupid
17:29
<sbalneav>
JerryNJ: has this server changed IP addresses recently?
17:33
alkisg: Is JerryNJ using rdesktop?
17:34
<alkisg>
JerryNJ: I think his goal is to use ltsp as rdesktop clients
17:34
But currently, I don't think he's modified lts.conf yet
17:34
So, ldm/gnome
17:37
<JerryNJ>
i havent modified lts.conf or anything
17:37
no the IP has not changed
17:37
ultimately I just want to launch rdesktop to a specific Win server
17:38
so maybe I can forgo trying to login when the pxe client boots
17:38
<alkisg>
JerryNJ: create the following file: /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf
17:38
And put the following contents in it:
17:38
[Default]
17:38
<JerryNJ>
how?
17:39
<alkisg>
SCREEN_07=rdesktop
17:39
RDP_SERVER=windows-server-ip
17:39
The same way you edited the tftp file
17:39
What did you use? gedit? vi? nano?
17:39
<JerryNJ>
vi
17:39
<alkisg>
Whatever editor you're familiar with
17:39
Yeah that then
17:40
Save, reboot the client, you should be in your windows server login prompt
17:40
bbl (=be back later)
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<JerryNJ>
i did all rgar
17:47
er did all that
17:47
but it booted to the same ubuntu screen
18:02
<alkisg>
JerryNJ: then you probably have a syntax error, pastebin the file
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<JerryNJ>
i got it working now
18:39
<alkisg>
Nice
18:41
<JerryNJ>
thank you
18:42
any advice on removing stuff I dont need on the LTSP server?
18:42
the gui is nice, but the purpose of the box is just to rdesktop
18:43
<alkisg>
Yeah you don't even need X on that box. But I wouldn't bother trying to remove all that stuff, too much work for nothing
18:43
You could have started with the ubuntu server cd, or the minimal cd, or something like that
18:45
<JerryNJ>
fair enough
18:45
i will leave it as is
18:51
<knipwim>
nice, libpam-sshauth and libnss-sshsock packaged for gentoo :)
18:55
<JerryNJ>
any idea how I can enable sound from the server to the client
18:55
or mount local usb drives?
19:02
ltspfs?
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<stgraber>
JerryNJ: for sound, you probably want to set RDP_OPTIONS to -r sound:local
19:37
<JerryNJ>
anyone know how i can redirect sound from rdesktop to my thin clients?
19:37
<stgraber>
JerryNJ: for drives, ltspfs should do the trick yes, haven't use it in a while so not sure how well it does it at the moment
19:37
I think -r disk:media=/media should do the trick for the drives
19:38
<JerryNJ>
stgraber: thanks trying it now
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<Gadi>
JerryNJ: you need to install ltspfs package in the chroot and update the image, as well
19:41
(only ltspfsd is installed in the chroot by default)
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<JerryNJ>
how do i install ltspfs and update?
19:50
<- noob
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<Gadi>
JerryNJ: do this:
19:53
sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386
19:53
apt-get install ltspfs
19:53
apt-get clean
19:53
exit
19:53
sudo ltsp-update-image --arch i386
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once the image is updated, reboot the client
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<JerryNJ>
gadi: trying this now
20:18
gadi: couldnt find package ltspfs
20:18
<Gadi>
try: apt-get update
20:18
then: apt-get install ltspfs
20:20
<JerryNJ>
gadi: looks like its installing now , when its done can I add to the -r on the same line as the rdesktop script?
20:21
<Gadi>
JerryNJ: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/RdesktopLocaldev
20:21
that should help
20:21
<JerryNJ>
gadi: right now my rdesktop looks likeL
20:21
screen_07=rdesktop -r sound:local
20:22
<Gadi>
yeah, so that won't work at all
20:22
:)
20:22
<JerryNJ>
can I add the -r disk=media...... to this line?
20:22
<Gadi>
what is the IP of the server?
20:22
(the windows server)
20:23
<JerryNJ>
192.168.51.9
20:23
<Gadi>
so there are two ways to specify in lts.conf - your choice. either:
20:23
SCREEN_07 = "rdesktop -r sound:local -r disk:Drives=/media/root 192.168.51.9"
20:24
just like that on one line
20:24
OR:
20:24
RDP_OPTIONS = "-r sound:local -r disk:Drives=/media/root"
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<Gadi>
RDP_SERVER = 192.168.51.9
20:24
SCREEN_07 = rdesktop
20:24
(in 3 lines)
20:25
recently, somebody pushed a change to upstream that does not properly set automatically the params: -f and -u ''
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<Gadi>
for fullscreen and no username
20:25
so, you *may* need to add those options as well
20:26
<JerryNJ>
and this will map the LOCAL client-side drives?
20:26
<prukker>
(sorry)
20:26
<Gadi>
read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/RdesktopLocaldev
20:27
JerryNJ: btw, you in Jersey?
20:27
:)
20:27
<JerryNJ>
yes
20:27* Gadi waves from over the bridge
20:27
<JerryNJ>
that page was minimally helpful
20:27
you are way more helpful
20:27
and yep in NJ
20:27
<Gadi>
heh
20:27
I only told you what is there
20:28* Gadi refrains from doing the NYer thing and making fun of the reading level of folks from NJ
20:28
<Gadi>
:)
20:28
<JerryNJ>
im from Manhattan
20:28
<Gadi>
(only joking)
20:28
ah
20:28
<JerryNJ>
originally
20:28
linux makes me nervous
20:28
im a windows guy
20:29
<Gadi>
don't be nervous
20:29
lots of friends here
20:29
and beer
20:29
<JerryNJ>
thanks man
20:30
<Gadi>
look, you made it into IRC. that's hlaf the battle right there for a Windows guy
20:30
:)
20:30
<JerryNJ>
been in irc for years
20:30
btw - clients arent booting now since i changed those params
20:31
<Gadi>
can you paste your lts.conf?
20:31
(and are theyy not booting or just not coming up to Windows?)
20:31
<JerryNJ>
notcoming to windowas
20:31
er windows
20:31
<Gadi>
ok
20:32
<prukker>
'llo. problem : my client fails to boot the image where ldm is in. I can tftp the first initrd-i386 and linux-i386
20:32
<Gadi>
let's see what you put
20:32
<prukker>
but after that I receive no dhcp address; I suspect the NIC driver.
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<prukker>
but how do I find which driver to load ? after 120 seconds, it reboots, and I can't login
20:32
<Gadi>
prukker: what distro/version?
20:33
<prukker>
I use Suse 11.4, but use a built Suse 11.3
20:33
mmm
20:33
my desktop = Suse 11.4
20:33
my images = 11.3
20:33
<JerryNJ>
can i screenshot this or pastebin it?
20:33
<Gadi>
prukker: suse uses "kiwi-ltsp" which is different enough from ltsp to make it difficult for those of us in #ltsp to support
20:34
JerryNJ: you can pastebinit the file
20:34
prukker: there is a #kiwi-ltsp or #kiwi, I believe
20:34
<prukker>
Gadi : so I better go to kiwi-ltsp, right ?
20:34
<JerryNJ>
gadi: http://pastebin.com/yvmAFZLv
20:34
<Gadi>
prukker: I think they would be more helpful, yeah
20:35
ah, so JerryNJ you mixed my two options:
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20:35
<Gadi>
*either* only use a one-liner screen_07
20:35
*or* use three separate lines
20:35
don't use a combination
20:36
and, I always put double-quotes around values with spaces
20:41
<JerryNJ>
gadi:
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<JerryNJ>
can you adjust it and show me
20:41
<Gadi>
sure
20:41
<JerryNJ>
<-windows guy
20:42
<Gadi>
so, either: http://pastebin.com/TRrGSUbF
20:44
or: or: http://pastebin.com/SbmuCSRX
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20:45
<JerryNJ>
which do you like better
20:45
<Gadi>
personally, I am a fan of the one-liner, because you could, if you wanted to, run a completely different rdp session at the same time on a second screen
20:46
but, most folks around here seem to break it up
20:46
I guess they find it more readable
20:49
<JerryNJ>
i used the one-liner
20:49
looks like its working, but hang tight
20:51
so if i wanted to mount usb-drives do you know of anything i could do to detect and mount on the client-side
20:51
<Gadi>
it should work now
20:51
when you go to My Computer,
20:51
<JerryNJ>
it mounts something
20:52
<Gadi>
you should see a "drives on bleh" folder
20:52
<JerryNJ>
says floppy
20:52
lol
20:52
<Gadi>
inside that drives share, a folder is created for each drive
20:52
plug in a flash drive and refresh and you should see a new folder
20:53
(floppy == your client's floppy drive)
20:53
<JerryNJ>
yeah i see drives on ltsp115
20:53
looks like i can write to it
20:53
<Gadi>
do you see folders inside of it?
20:54
<JerryNJ>
working
20:54
yay
20:54
usb printers?
20:54
lol
20:55
<Gadi>
well, printers in ltsp by default are handled differently than rdp normally handles them (tho, I have written some code that at some point needs to go into upstream ltsp to help with that)
20:55
by default, printers in ltsp are redirected to the network as jet-direct printers
20:55
so, on the server side, you would create a queue pointing to the thin client port 9100
20:56
what is not in the default code is anything to automatically create print queues on the client to take adv of auto-redirection through rdp
20:57
<JerryNJ>
Gadi, you have been super helpful
20:57
wish i had a direct line to ask questions if need be
20:58
<Gadi>
#ltsp is your direct line
20:58
:)
20:58
we tend to be super helpful here
20:58
or try to be
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<Gadi>
keep in mind, most of ltsp is designed around connecting to Linux
20:58
it is only guys like me that care about connecting to Windows, too
20:58
:)
20:59
but, as a result, less attention (dev wise) is paid to optimizing for rdp
21:00
that said, with cool and active projects like freerdp taking off, we may see a lot more work pouring in
21:00
<JerryNJ>
one last q
21:00
i know in ltsp.conf i can add some code to bracket a mac address and connect to ANOTHER windows machine
21:01
do you recall that code
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<Gadi>
sure
21:02
so, think of lts.conf as a .ini file
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(since you are a Windows guy ;) )
21:02
just add another stanza
21:02
[aa:bb:cc:dd:ee:ff]
21:02
param = value
21:02
where, in the brackets, you put the MAC address
21:03
and underneath you put at least one value
21:03
and the mac address stanzas inherit and override from default
21:04
<JerryNJ>
and if the port is different that it accepts rdp connections from?
21:04
<Gadi>
ah
21:04
one sec
21:04
<JerryNJ>
maybe ip:port
21:04
?
21:04
<Gadi>
you can do: server:port
21:04
yeah
21:04
(just verified)
21:05
if you want options for rdesktop, simply: man rdesktop
21:05
(in a terminal)
21:05
it will give you the options avaialble
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<corewin>
Hi all
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<JerryNJ>
cool
21:10
testing now
21:12
hey gadi
21:12
looks like its only booting to default
21:12
weird
21:12
does default have to be under the specified MAC entries?
21:12
<Gadi>
sure you have the right mac addy for the thin client?
21:12
<JerryNJ>
im never sure
21:13
<Gadi>
hehe
21:13
<JerryNJ>
i will look
21:13
<Gadi>
oh, and if you used the one-liner in default, make sure you use the same one-liner (with IP changed) in the MAC addy stanza
21:14
because you are in effect overriding the SCREEN_07 param
21:14
<corewin>
anybody know how to fix the "failed to connect to NBD server" error when using a diffrent TFTP server?
21:14
<JerryNJ>
http://pastebin.com/mEDJ4JfD
21:15
<Gadi>
corewin: try specifying nbdroot=<ip> on the kernel command line in pxelinux.cfg/default
21:15
JerryNJ: you need colons
21:15
not dashes
21:15
in the mac addy
21:15
<corewin>
i've tried that but did not work
21:16
<JerryNJ>
kk changed and rebooting the client
21:16
<Gadi>
corewin: what is the exact setup?
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<corewin>
I have a PC with one nic in it and a pfsense router. It works fine if I use the tftp server on the LTSP pc but when I copy the files from the ltsp pc to the pfsense I get failed to connect error. I've tried adding various lines to nbdroot including nbdroot=ip nbdroot=ip:port
21:20
i'm running ubuntu 10.04 lts
21:22
<Yoe>
corewin: on the server, too?
21:22
<corewin>
pxelinux.cfg/default file ?
21:22
<Yoe>
corewin: I changed nbd-server so that it won't listen to ports anymore by default, without warning about it if a port configuration was found; that might have been a mistake
21:23
<JerryNJ>
gadi: no worky
21:23
<Yoe>
no, I mean, are you running 10.04 LTS on the server as well?
21:23
'cause if you are, then the problem isn't that change that I made but something else
21:23
<Gadi>
JerryNJ: lets see the latest
21:23
<corewin>
yes on the server i'm runing 10.04 LTS
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<Gadi>
corewin: if you add "break=bottom" to the kernel command line, you can drop into the initramfs
21:24
and from there, you can try to connect to nbd from the initramfs
21:24
to verify that that works
21:24
<corewin>
ok i'll try that
21:25
<JerryNJ>
http://pastebin.com/PNnTtKez
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<Gadi>
corewin: you can use: nbd-client <server-ip> 2000 /dev/nbd0
21:26
<squaregoldfish>
Suddenly, ltsp-update-image do nothing. Not even an error. Can someone help me work out what's wrong please?
21:26
<JerryNJ>
btw - it does boot, and must see the mac, so it ends up at the ubuntu login screen
21:27
<squaregoldfish>
*does nothing
21:27
<Gadi>
JerryNJ: you have SCREEN-07 instead of SCREEN_07 <- typo alert!
21:27
squaregoldfish: distro/version?
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<squaregoldfish>
Ubuntu last LTS release, LTSP version 5.2.1-0ubuntu9
21:28
<JerryNJ>
axck
21:28
retrying
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<Gadi>
squaregoldfish: are you missing your chroots? /opt/ltsp/
21:30
squaregoldfish: and are you running it as: sudo ltsp-update-image
21:30
<squaregoldfish>
No. I can enter chroot and see the full file system. Running as sudo too.,
21:30
gadi: ^
21:31
<Gadi>
squaregoldfish: what changed since you last ran the command?
21:31
did you uninstall something in the chroot?
21:32
<squaregoldfish>
gadi: Updated packages on server, and in the chroot. In the chroot, apt-get listed a bunch of packages to auto-remove, so I did. Must say I didn't check what they were, so it could well be that.
21:32
<Gadi>
squaregoldfish: go back in the chroot, and see if you have ltsp-client
21:32
<JerryNJ>
working like a charm Gadi
21:33
<Gadi>
excellent!
21:33
squaregoldfish: my guess is you removed ltsp-client or ltsp-client-core
21:33
<squaregoldfish>
gadi: It's gone. Silly auto-remove! (Or silly me for trusting it). Anything else I need?
21:33
<Gadi>
squaregoldfish: if you did not make too many modifications, you may be well served to just rerun ltsp-build-client
21:34
squaregoldfish: otherwise, hopefully reinstalling that will do the trick
21:34
:)
21:34
but, not sure
21:34
gotta run
21:34
bbian
21:34
<squaregoldfish>
gadi. It's suggested lots of other packages too, so we'll see what happens.....
21:34
<Gadi>
bbiab
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<squaregoldfish>
gadi: all worked OK. Had to rebuild nbd-server config too for some reason. Anywahy, it's all good - thanks!
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