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Channel log from 9 September 2020   (all times are UTC)

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07:33
<user_>
How can I have localhost be set to the server IP on the clients? I need this because the webapp I'm running on localhost redirects the browser to localhost:xxxx whenever it is reached
07:33
If I set localhost to the server IP manually, it works. I want to do it automatically.
07:34
<alkisg>
HOSTS_LOCALHOST="1.2.3.4 localhost "
07:34
But it's completely broken to have localhost = the server ip...
07:34
Just fix the app to use "server" instead of localhost
07:37
<user_>
alright I'll give that a try.
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09:19
<shte>
hallo all
09:20
Can anyone help me to diagnose why /run/ltsp folder is missing at every reboot?
09:20
service doesn't start correctly without it
09:21
<alkisg>
shte: do you see any error messages while the client boots?
09:21
Or are you talking about the server?
09:21
<shte>
I'm talking about the server
09:23
no errors shown on clients but they lose printers and other settings too
09:23
<alkisg>
Eh, how does the server-side `ltsp service` affects the clients?
09:23
I think you misunderstood something
09:23
Let's start from the server. What's the output of `systemctl status ltsp` ?
09:24
<shte>
‚óŹ ltsp.service - LTSP startup tasks Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/ltsp.service; enabled; vendor preset: enabled) Active: active (exited) since Thu 2020-09-03 11:30:00 CEST; 5 days ago Docs: man:ltsp-service(8) Process: 1300 ExecStart=/usr/sbin/ltsp service (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS)set 03 11:30:00 servercesmap
09:24
systemd[1]: Starting LTSP startup tasks...set 03 11:30:00 servercesmap ltsp[1300]: Disabled flow control (autoneg off, rx off) for eno1 using ethtoolset 03 11:30:00 servercesmap ltsp[1300]: /usr/sbin/ltsp: 385: cannot create /run/ltsp/debug.log: Directory nonexistentset 03 11:30:00 servercesmap ltsp[1300]: Couldn't disable flow control for
09:24
enp3s0set 03 11:30:00 servercesmap ltsp[1300]: /usr/sbin/ltsp: 385: cannot create /run/ltsp/debug.log: Directory nonexistentset 03 11:30:00 servercesmap systemd[1]: Started LTSP startup tasks.
09:25
before manually creating òtsp folder on /run
09:25
<alkisg>
Do you mind to share your screen?
09:25
!vnc-dide
09:25
<ltspbot>
vnc-dide: To share your screen with me, run this: sudo apt-get --yes install x11vnc; x11vnc -connect srv1-dide.ioa.sch.gr - this is a reverse connection, it doesn't need port forwarding etc.
09:25
<alkisg>
(no problem if you worry about it; btw I'm the main ltsp developer)
09:26
<shte>
I know, I'm doing it
09:31
wow great work alkisg
09:31
<alkisg>
shte, it's a bug that appears to you only, because you have DEBUG_LOG=1 in ltsp.conf,
09:31
Please file an issue for that, but it does NOT affect the clients
09:31
!ltsp-issue
09:31
<ltspbot>
I do not know about 'ltsp-issue', but I do know about these similar topics: 'ltsp-issues'
09:31
<alkisg>
!ltsp-issues
09:31
<ltspbot>
ltsp-issues: https://github.com/ltsp/ltsp/issues is where you file bug reports or feature requests that can be addressed from the LTSP code base. See also !community-issues for more general LTSP questions or discussions
09:31
<alkisg>
Now, let's move on to the clients. What problem do you have with them?
09:32
<shte>
ok another question if i can
09:32
<alkisg>
Sure
09:32
<shte>
how can setup a printer locally attached to a client to be reached by every other clietn
09:32
<alkisg>
!printe
09:32
<ltspbot>
I do not know about 'printe', but I do know about these similar topics: 'fatclient-printers', 'printer'
09:32
<alkisg>
!printer
09:32
<ltspbot>
printer: Quick how-to: RCFILE_01="/usr/sbin/jetpipe /dev/usb/lp0 9100 &" in lts.conf, reboot client, then go to server's add printer dialog, and specify network printer → jetdirect → ltsp123.local
09:33
<alkisg>
No
09:33
https://ltsp.org/man/ltsp.conf/
09:33
CUPS_SERVER=x
09:33
<shte>
formerly I used to modify ltsp.conf with IP address of the client
09:34
<alkisg>
Can you boot the client, so that we see?
09:34
<shte>
i go to boot it
09:34
<alkisg>
Which client has a printer?
09:34
OK
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09:35
<shte>
just a moment pease
09:37
started
09:38
<alkisg>
Try to login now
09:39
<shte>
with a normal user?
09:39
<alkisg>
Yes
09:40
<shte>
done
09:44
<alkisg>
shte: when it reboots, log in again
09:47
<shte>
ok we have some other printer here, but network printers, they will continue to work after you setup cups in localhost for it?
09:48
ok you can go
09:58
<alkisg>
shte: sorry some schools need remote support currently, we'll need to continue this tomorrow...
09:58
September is when the schools in Greece need a lot of support as they install the new Ubuntu and LTSP :)
10:01
<shte>
in Italy too... printers are working now thank you again, i'm going to open a bug report
10:01
<alkisg>
Great :)
10:07
<shte>
last question, should I run ltsp image / at every software upgrade or app installation?
10:08
ltsp image / | ltsp initrd
10:11
<alkisg>
Yes, if you want the clients to get the updates etc...
10:11
ltsp image / should be enough
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19:10
<eu^8936642873>
hi all, quick question. I have just set up LTSP for the first time with an ubuntu VM image. Booted into it from client, system monitor shows the specs of my local machine. Unless I'm misunderstanding, thin clients are meant to process apps on the remote server, yet opening/closing chrome etc seems to run on my local PC. Can you help me
19:10
understand what's going on? ( i'm new to thin clients if it's not obvious :) )
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19:10
<MWALTERS>
modern ltsp does all computing on the client
19:11
they aren't "thin" clients
19:11
<eu^8936642873>
ah, that explains it
19:11
thanks!
19:11
<MWALTERS>
most people call them "fat" clients... the disk is remote, but all computing/memory is local :)
19:11
np
19:11
<eu^8936642873>
so for thin client use an old version of ltsp?
19:12
<MWALTERS>
Yes, thin clients aren't supported in modern LTSP... I think those in the know recommend using x2go or somethign else, though
19:12
<eu^8936642873>
will give it a look, thx very much
19:12
<MWALTERS>
:)
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