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Channel log from 3 August 2007   (all times are UTC)

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<krinns>
hi all
01:09
am getting printing prbs on my thinclients
01:13
<sbalneav>
krinns: Can you be more specific?
01:13
<krinns>
yes
01:13
actually i have 2 hp1022 and one hp1020 printer it works well from windows
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<krinns>
but from thinclient it wont works
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<sbalneav>
Ok, what have you done to try to set them up?
01:17
Hello?
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<sbalneav>
krinns: Still here?
01:22
Hello Q-FUNK
01:24
<krinns>
yes
01:24
what u mean
01:24
see setting printer attatched to thinclient is not a big deal
01:24
i am running 20 printers
01:24
all good these 3 printers are new and wont work
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<sbalneav>
Well, are they windows printers?
01:25
Maybe they're one of the new type of printer that has half the print engine running under windows.
01:25
If so, they won't work on a thin client.
01:30
Hello?
01:32
According to the information I'm seeing on LinuxPrinting.org, these printers require special drivers.
01:33
They'd have to be put into the ltsp chroot somehow.
01:33
krinns: In you want help, you're going to need to respond faster. I'm just about ready to go to bed.
01:34
<krinns>
can i oh
01:34
oh sorry
01:34
ok
01:34
what i do
01:35
what info i send
01:35
you
01:35
see i fix tat thin client ip
01:35
<sbalneav>
Well, first of all, how about some info
01:35
What distribution are you running, and what version of LTSP?
01:36
<krinns>
[ws055]
01:36
PRINTER_0_TYPE = U
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PRINTER_0_DEVICE = /dev/usb/lp0
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PRINTER_0_PORT = 9100
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PRINTER_0_WRITE_ONLY= Y
01:36
i add ws050 in etc/hosts file too
01:37
add configure printer in Ubuntu hp laser jet 1020
01:37
i have compiled foo2js for hp printing
01:37
<Q-FUNK>
sbalneav: howdy!
01:37
<krinns>
and i have 10 hp1022 already running
01:37
what am mistaken i wont know?
01:38
ltsp4.2 on UBuntu dapper
01:38
<sbalneav>
And you have foo2js installed in the ltsp4.2 chroot?
01:40
<krinns>
yes
01:40
<sbalneav>
If you telnet to port 9100 on the thin client, do you get connected?
01:40
<krinns>
yes
01:40
connected
01:40
<sbalneav>
What error messages do you get in the cups log?
01:40
<krinns>
no msgs
01:41
E [03/Aug/2007:11:04:14 +0500] [Job 22947] Unable to connect to printer (retrying in 30 seconds): Connection timed out
01:41
know i wont know for which printer it is fr
01:41
<sbalneav>
Well, that IS a message
01:41
<krinns>
i have 20 printers running
01:42
<sbalneav>
Well, based on that error message, cups can't connect to the printer.
01:44
I'd say check the printer setup in cups.
01:44
Well, it's 1:41 AM here where I am, I'm going to head to bed.
01:44
<krinns>
come
01:44
on
01:44
<sbalneav>
come on what?
01:44
<krinns>
i have checked 10 times
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am stuck on that
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really i spent 4 hrs yesterday
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<sbalneav>
Have you tried substituting one of the working 1020's for the non working one?
01:46
Put a bad one where a good one is, and a good one where the bad one is.
01:46
If the bad printer starts working, then it's something in your setup
01:46
if the bad printer still won't work, then it's the printer.
01:47
They may have changed something in the printer's firmware to make it incompatible.
01:47
ok?
01:47
Do you underdtand?
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<krinns>
yes
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<sbalneav>
ok, I'm heading to bed then.
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<krinns>
ok
01:48
sure
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<sbalneav>
night.
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<vlt>
!seen stibbs
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<ltspbot`>
vlt: I have not seen stibbs.
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<_EXP>
I have ubuntu 7.04 and ltsp 5. I have terminal that boots from floppy, when logging in it always reads floppy and also when I try to access USB stick. I managed to disable access to floppy drive in 4.2. How this can be done in ltsp 5?
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<krotaz>
hello
02:22
<iMav>
howdy
02:23
<krotaz>
can any body help me with LTPS under ubuntu 7.04
02:23
??
02:24
<iMav>
depends on the issue. (just ask your question(s). If I don't know the answer, someone will be around that does at some point) :)
02:24
<krotaz>
well I followed the ubuntu guide
02:24
and everything went fine
02:25
but when I try to boot from the network the pc gets the ip, then TFTP time expired
02:25
I'm not using a physical pc it's a vmware machine
02:26
<iMav>
does the TFTP daemon respond if you try to download from it manually (to test)?
02:26
<krotaz>
a guy told me that I've to check if the tftp server is alive and kicking so I put "ps -fea | grep ftp"
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and no answer but from the grep process so I imagine the tftp server is down
02:27
if I try to restart the server with "/etc/init.d/tftpd-hpa start"
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it send this messege "Starting HPA's tftpd: in.tftpd"
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<iMav>
are you sure it is a standalone daemon and not called from xinetd?
02:29
(I'm not sure, that's why I ask...I don't have a LTSP intallation in front of me)
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<krotaz>
it's supposed that in case it's called from xinetd this file must exist /etc/xinetd.d/tftpd
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butn in /etc/ there's no xinted.d
02:31
theres a file here "/etc/inetd.conf"
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<iMav>
well, either way something (either xinetd or the standalone tftpd process will be listening on 69/udp)
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so, check with netstat
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<krotaz>
the /etc/inetd.conf has this line inside
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tftp dgram udp wait root /usr/sbin/in.tftpd /usr/sbin/in.tftpd -r blksize -s /var/lib/tftpboot
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netstat -apn | grep ":69 "
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<iMav>
netstat -naut | grep -i listen
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<krotaz>
returs this
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udp 0 0 0.0.0.0:69 0.0.0.0:* -
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after the * comes a -
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<iMav>
well, there ya go!
02:35
<krotaz>
returns a list of proceses in TCP but none is on UDP or listening the port 69
02:35
=(
02:36
so I understand the tftp server is down, now the big prize question is
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how do I start the server, as I said if I put "/etc/init.d/tftpd-hpa start
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answers this "Starting HPA's tftpd: in.tftpd"
02:37
<iMav>
does your netstat output not show something listening on 69/udp?
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<krotaz>
the one you told me???
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<iMav>
you provided this " udp 0 0 0.0.0.0:69 0.0.0.0:*"
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<krotaz>
yes
02:38
thats the answer of the netstat -apn | grep ":69 " command
02:38
you told me to put netstat -naut | grep -i listen
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this command returns a list but none is on UDP all are on TCP
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<iMav>
mistake with my command. regardless, your output clearly show that a process is listening on 69/udp.
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<krotaz>
so the tftp server is running
02:43
<iMav>
the next step would be to try and interact with the daemon manually.
02:44
<krotaz>
ok can you help me with that???
02:44
<iMav>
connect to the server remotely with a tftp client.
02:44
tftp -v <ip address>
02:44
<krotaz>
I'm really newbie with this stuff
02:44
<iMav>
if/when you get a "tftp>" prompt, type "help"
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<krotaz>
Connected to 192.168.2.69 (192.168.2.69), port 69
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the fisrt line is tftp-hpa 0.43
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and a list of the commands available
02:46
<iMav>
can you grab the image ("get" command) that your thin clients are trying to download?
02:47
<krotaz>
I don't know the name of the image, but can I use the *???
02:48
<iMav>
well, what files are in "/var/lib/tftpboot"??
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(or, where ever your tftp daemon is pointed to...check tftp config file and/or xinetd conf files)
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<krotaz>
theres is another ltsp folder
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and inside this folder there's a i386 folder and a vmlinuz.etherboot
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<iMav>
basically, you need to verify that the tftpd is pointed to the right directory, tha the thin clients are attempting to pul the correct file, and that that file exists in the appropriate location.
02:53
<krotaz>
the config file of the tftp server is /etc/default/tftpd-hpa ????
02:53
<iMav>
Your DHCP config and tftpd configurations should identify this for you.
02:54
waht does that config file list for a root directory?
02:54
!pastebot
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<ltspbot`>
iMav: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. A link to the content will be pasted in the channel.
02:54
<iMav>
those that conf file on pastebot so I can have a look see. (
02:55
<krotaz>
the config file from the dhcp or the tftp???
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or both??
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<iMav>
both sounds good to me.
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<ltsppbot>
"krotaz" pasted "the config files" (24 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/250
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<krotaz>
done
02:57
<iMav>
I'll take a lok now.
02:58
<krotaz>
ok thanks buddy
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<iMav>
so, when you connect to the tftp daemon, can you successfully perform a "get /ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0"
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and/or "get /ltsp/i386/nbi.img"
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<krotaz>
pxelinux.0: Permission denied
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nbi.img: Permission denied
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<iMav>
do the files exist? (assuming they'd be in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386"
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<krotaz>
yes
03:03
the ls /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386 said that those files exist
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<iMav>
what are the permissions set as? "ls -al"
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<krotaz>
the strange thing is that in the tftp client I put get /ltsp/i386/boobs and returned boobs:Permission denied
03:05
nbi.img has lrwxrwxrwx permissions
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pxelinux.0 has -rw-r--r--
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<iMav>
shouldn't there be a "next-server" entry in your dhcp configuration?
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i.e. "next-server <ip address>;
03:08
(with the IP of your tftp server)
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<krotaz>
I honestly don't know
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<iMav>
I'd add it. :)
03:10
what's the link to the howto you are using?
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<krotaz>
in the last line??
03:11
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPQuickInstall
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<iMav>
seems odd to me that if all you did was the "sudo apt-get install ltsp-server-standalone openssh-server" and "sudo ltsp-build-client", that the resulting dhcp config and tftp configurations wouldn't jive. However, admitantly, I've never setup LTSP. so I don't know how complete the "quick install" is.
03:15
<krotaz>
its strange for me too
03:15
<iMav>
however, it seems obvious taht the "permission denied" error when trying to grab the image via tftp is the root of your problem.
03:16
<krotaz>
yes
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<iMav>
either the tftp daemon is pointing at the wrong directory, or it is a file permission issue. (and the later does not seem to be the case)
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<krotaz>
yes it's really strange
03:18
the only thing I changed was the dhcpconf file
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<iMav>
and the "ltsp/i386" directory structure exissts under "/var/lib/tftpboot"?
03:18
<krotaz>
to enable the 192.168.2.69 ip instead of the 192.168.0.1
03:19
yes
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<krotaz>
I tried from a different virtual machine the "get pxelinux.o"
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<iMav>
should be a dot ZERO, right?
03:23
i.e. pxelinux.0
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<krotaz>
it send a getting from 192.168.2.69:pxelinux.0 to pxelinux.0
03:23
yes its a dot zero
03:23
my mistake
03:24
its in netascii mode and then it said TRANSFER TIMED OUT
03:24
<iMav>
well then, that is good.
03:24
oops, guess not
03:24
:)
03:24
<krotaz>
¬¬
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<iMav>
without getting hands on, I don't know what to tell you. But I'm surious enough to set this up in a virtual environment myself tonight and see what the deal is. :)
03:28
perhaps some of the actual LTSP folks here can give you some guidance.
03:28
<krotaz>
hope so but none of them seem to be alive :(
03:29
<iMav>
and it's the middle of the day! (well, at least where I'm at) :)
03:29
<krotaz>
where are you???
03:29
<iMav>
Iraq
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<krotaz>
well here in mexico it's 3:26 am
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:S
03:30
<iMav>
12:26 pm here.
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<krotaz>
man this is stressing
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I don't know were's the damn problem
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<krotaz>
dpkg-reconfigure tftpd-hpa what do this command work's for???
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<ogra>
it breaks your ltsp setup
03:37
why do you play with it ?
03:37
tftpd is set up in openbds-inetd
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*openbsd
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<krotaz>
hi ogra
03:38
I'm on a ubuntu box
03:39
can you help me with a "little" problem???
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<ogra>
krotaz, first set your tftpd config back to the default (RUN_DAEMON=no)
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<krotaz>
ok
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done
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<_EXP>
ltsp 4.2 uses * /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/udev/rules.d/15-ltsp-block.rules Is there a similar file in ltsp5?
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<ogra>
restart inetd to be sure its used by it ... (you wouldnt have been able to start the standalone daemon anyway, it checks for the entry in inetd.conf and fails silently if there is one)
03:43
<krotaz>
N.F.I I'm new with this
03:43
<_EXP>
I want to disable floppy drive....
03:43
<ogra>
sudo /etc/init.d/openbsd-inetd restart
03:43
<krotaz>
emmm sorry for the stupid question but HOW DO I RESTART inetd without rebooting the pc???
03:44
<ogra>
krotaz, see my last line :)
03:44
<krotaz>
done
03:45
<ogra>
fine
03:45
<krotaz>
now???
03:45
<ogra>
do you run y DSL router or something in your network ?
03:46
any kind of device with a dhcp server ?
03:46
<krotaz>
the ltsp server has the dhcp server
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<ogra>
(on the same network the thin clients are on)
03:46
there is no other ?
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<krotaz>
and in the same pc is the vmware machine
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<ogra>
ah
03:46
vmware
03:46
<krotaz>
yes
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<ogra>
havent played with that yet
03:47
<krotaz>
me neither
03:47
:)
03:47
but no problem is like a normal pc
03:52
the thing is that the tftp server always times out :(
03:53
ogra still there???
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<ogra>
(sorry i'm dragged in a meeting ... )
03:54
<krotaz>
oops sorry
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<EXP_Linux>
there is no one here familiar LTSP5 and local devices?
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<ogra>
EXP_Linux, you only want USB keys and CDroms ?
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<EXP_Linux>
Ogra, yes
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Or just USB keys
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is that possible in ltsp5?
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<ogra>
have a look in /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/init.d/ltsp-client
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there is a line starting delayed_mounter
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comment that
05:04
that should get you rid of all devices that exists on login
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only stuff plugged in afer login will be recognized
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<Envit1>
Hola a todos desde España
05:05
Hello all from Spain
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<EXP_Linux>
YES! Thanks... i have tried to solve that since yesterday....
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<iMav>
Hello from Iraq. :)
05:11
<Envit1>
Where on Iraq?
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<iMav>
LSA Anaconda
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<Envit1>
??
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<iMav>
right in the middle of the Sunni triangle.
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<Envit1>
ok
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<EXP_>
ogra, is there a way to set default screen resolution in each client?
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<ogra>
only via X_HORZSYNC and X_VERTREFERSH values in lts.conf or via a static xorg.conf for the clients where you want something different than the detected resolution
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<ogra>
(ubunuts xserver package sadly refuses to accept X_MODE values, thats fixed in gutsy though)
05:20
*ubuntus
05:20
<EXP_>
OK
05:24
When gutsy will be officially released?
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<exodos>
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule
05:25
<EXP_>
OK
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<ogra>
Q-FUNK, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/gutsy-changes/2007-August/005762.html ;)
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<Q-FUNK>
ogra: nice :)
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<BlueRaid>
hi
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<gvy>
halo
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<BlueRaid>
I've a problem with localdev's when i type lbussd in a console i get the error Connection refused. But the Computername is right an i can ping the Hostname
06:59
ltspfsd runns on the client
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<BlueRaid>
it's startet with -a
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<BlueRaid>
when i use -ad i see no error on the console only Programm started
07:03
Is port 9202 for connections right?
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<blubub>
or with what do i initalizing a localdev conection, i can't use any precompilerdpackages because i've a sparc64....
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<vlt>
!seen stibs
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<ltspbot`>
vlt: stibs was last seen in #ltsp 35 weeks, 2 days, 7 hours, 21 minutes, and 0 seconds ago: <stibs> moin ogra
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<vlt>
ok ...
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<krotaz>
hi there again
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<krotaz>
/msg NickServ IDENTIFY <jessikka>
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<jammcq>
oops
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<krotaz>
jajaja
12:53
new at this thing :)
12:54
anyway, can any body help me???
12:54
<jammcq>
that all depends on your problem
12:54
<dberkholz>
i worked some more on the Gentoo plugins yesterday
12:54
repo's sitting at dev.gentoo.org/~dberkholz/ltsp/ltsp-mainline for anyone who wants to look
12:55
haven't actually gotten things to run successfully yet, but that's coming.
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<krotaz>
well my problem is that when I try to load from the network it sends a TFTP error
12:56
that the waiting time has expired
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TFTP open timeout
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<jammcq>
krotaz: what distro?
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<krotaz>
ubuntu
12:58
7.04
12:58
I followe the official ubuntu how-to
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https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPQuickInstall
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<K_O-Gnom>
how can i activate the compatibility mode?
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<K_O-Gnom>
sorry wrong chan
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<john_1>
hi all how do I get my ltsp server to register itself with MS DNS?
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<john_1>
well it looks like I should just add a static entry
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<cottima>
does anyone use skole linux (debian edu)?
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<shale_>
can anyone tell me some of the reasons a hostname subsection in my lts.conf wouldn't execute?
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i'm able to ping the hostname when the thin client is booted
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and can ssh to it
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but the options in the subsection are no worky
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<shale_>
alright then
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i guess we're on our own with no documentation and no one alive in the chan
17:40
open source at its best ;)
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<strayf>
so, what's your host section look like?
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<shale_>
[01gx110]
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XF86CONFIG_FILE = /etc/X11/xorg.conf.gx110
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using the same format as ltsp4
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!pastebin
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<ltspbot`>
shale_: Error: "pastebin" is not a valid command.
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<strayf>
does that work to use [01gx110]?
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In mine it's all mac-addresses
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<shale_>
doesn't work
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if i change it to the mac address it does work
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but not the host name, the full dns host name, nor the ip address
18:09
<cliebow>
!pastebot
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<ltspbot`>
cliebow: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. A link to the content will be pasted in the channel.
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<shale_>
thx cliebow
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<ltsppbot>
"shale_" pasted "lts.conf" (23 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/251
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<cliebow>
sure...must be an off day for the Masters here
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hmm
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ive never had to supply complet path for a full xorg.conf
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<strayf>
when you ssh into the thin client does it know what its own name is?
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<vagrantc>
so ... getting an obnoxious problem with PXE on some intel cards ...
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works fine in one network, but gets a PXE-E55 error on another network
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<cottima>
is it possible to connect to ltsp with tsclient?
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<vagrantc>
some googling revealed that they got rid of that error by only using a single ip address for hte interface on the server ... and we're sort of doing that, because the server is running inside a xen instance
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cottima: if "tsclient" supports the protocols LTSP is using ...
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cottima: XDMCP for ltsp 4.x, and ssh X11 forwarding for LTSP 5
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<cottima>
okay, thank you vagrantc
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<vagrantc>
is tsclient what windows terminal server uses ?
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if so, i think the answer is no.
19:13
<cottima>
Yeah, I think it is just for connecting linux boxes to win terminal server
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I am wondering how to test ltsp over the net, if I need to for testing.. it someone says it is broken I will not have to drive.
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so, that helps quite a bit.
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<NefariousAryq>
Hey guys, I have a new small issue on a server I'm working on... Slackware 12, LTSP 4.2 u2, Devon IT thin clients (6040A), and a ELO touchscreen. My cursor is just a black box. Whether I move the mouse or use the touchscreen. Black box. about 16x16 pixels, I'd guess.
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<NefariousAryq>
Oh how odd, if I select some text, the cursor becomes the regular cursor one would expect to see.
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Anyone around?
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<vagrantc>
cottima: i think you'd want NX for that... connecting to your LTSP server remotely
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cottima: or VNC
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<sbalneav>
Evening all
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