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Channel log from 22 December 2008 (all times are UTC)
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| 06:24 | <gate_keeper_> I've compiled the clients root kernel with extra sound modules like intel8x0, via82xxx .. etc
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| 06:24 | it doesn't load them on startup
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| 06:24 | but they exist in /boot/config
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| 06:25 | modprobe intel8x0 give message : Could not load /lib/modules/2.6.24-16-server/modules.dep: No such file or directory
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| 06:25 | should the chroot kernel be different from the server one
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| 06:25 | :-/
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| 08:55 | <rjune> !seen ogra
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| 08:55 | <ltspbot`> rjune: ogra was last seen in #ltsp 3 days, 23 hours, 18 minutes, and 44 seconds ago: <ogra> then have a look at /etc/X11/xorg.conf
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| 08:59 | <_UsUrPeR_> !seen warren
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| 08:59 | <ltspbot`> _UsUrPeR_: warren was last seen in #ltsp 1 day, 17 hours, 28 minutes, and 17 seconds ago: <warren> be safe
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| 09:06 | <cib0> hey, does anyone know what dependencies italc has?
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| 09:16 | <jammcq> good morning friends
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| 09:25 | <_UsUrPeR_> hey jammcq
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| 09:30 | <BrunoXLambert> cib0, root@leibniz:~# apt-cache show italc-master | grep Depends
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| 09:30 | Depends: italc-client, libc6 (>= 2.7-1), libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1-21), libitalc (= 1:1.0.7-0ubuntu2), libjpeg62, libqt4-core (>= 4.3.4), libqt4-gui (>= 4.3.4), libssl0.9.8 (>= 0.9.8f-1), libstdc++6 (>= 4.1.1-21), python, zlib1g (>= 1:1.2.3.3.dfsg-1)
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| 09:30 | root@leibniz:~#
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| 09:46 | <CAN-o-SPAM> !seen ogra
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| 09:46 | <ltspbot`> CAN-o-SPAM: ogra was last seen in #ltsp 4 days, 0 hours, 10 minutes, and 34 seconds ago: <ogra> then have a look at /etc/X11/xorg.conf
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| 09:47 | <cib0> thanks, bruno
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| 09:48 | hm, are there any problems with emulating a ltsp network using virtualbox?
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| 09:55 | <rjune> cib0: ogra is on vacation
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| 09:56 | <cib0> ogra?
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| 09:57 | <rjune> sorry
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| 09:57 | CAN-o-SPAM: ^
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| 09:57 | he's on vacation
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| 09:59 | <sbalneav> Morning all
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| 10:01 | <cib0> mornin
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| 10:07 | <rjune> !s
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| 10:07 | <ltspbot`> rjune: "s" is Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 10:08 | <sbalneav> Morning rjune
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| 10:09 | <johnny> cib0, sure, it's possible, you just have to set it up right
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| 10:09 | i had server, and client both in virtualbox,
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| 10:09 | and even server on host, and client in virtualbox
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| 10:12 | <CAN-o-SPAM> ok thanks rjune
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| 10:12 | u know when he's back?
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| 10:12 | hi scotty!
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| 10:13 | <rjune> CAN-o-SPAM: nope, but I'm always happy to tell you somebody's not here
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| 10:16 | <CAN-o-SPAM> ok
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| 10:19 | <_UsUrPeR_> getting this error in F10: nfsmount: error mounting 10.1.1.1:/opt/ltsp/i386 on /sysroot as nfs: Invalid argument.\
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| 10:19 | the ip address is correct. What's up with this?
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| 10:23 | <jammcq> _UsUrPeR_: on the server, do this: exportfs -ra
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| 10:26 | <_UsUrPeR_> jammcq: exportfs: *:/opt/ltsp
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| 10:26 | exportfs: duplicated entries:
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| 10:27 | jammcq: that exportfs is repeated twice
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| 10:27 | <jammcq> well... sounds like duplicate entries in /etc/exports
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| 10:27 | * _UsUrPeR_ removes one | |
| 10:28 | * _UsUrPeR_ restarts nfs | |
| 10:29 | <_UsUrPeR_> jammcq; thanks. works like a charm
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| 10:29 | <jammcq> cool
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| 10:29 | * _UsUrPeR_ makes a mental note of the exports location | |
| 10:32 | <_UsUrPeR_> jammcq: I think I added the second exports entry when I either built a new image (and deleted /opt/ltsp/i386 and /opt/ltsp/images0 or ran ltsp-server-initialize -y twice.
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| 11:24 | <devilbues> Hi, can anybody help me out? I can't get a r8169 nic to work on ltsp
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| 11:26 | <cib0> does anyone know about a documentation that explains how vnc works internally?
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| 11:26 | <sbalneav> devilbues: Thought you got that going?
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| 11:26 | cib0: I know it's basically sending delta's of rendered images of the screen.
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| 11:27 | cib0: But you'd have to check the VNC site itself for more detailed info
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| 11:28 | devilbues: Did you have any luck by specifying the "eth0=" line in the pxelinux.cfg file?
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| 11:28 | <jammcq> Scotty !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 11:29 | <sbalneav> Hey jammcq
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| 11:29 | How's it going?
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| 11:30 | <devilbues> Sbalneav, yes I did, the kernel detects the device, but gives me this error: SUICSUFFLAGS: Function not implemented
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| 11:31 | sorry, SIOCSIFFLAGS
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| 11:32 | <sbalneav> You need to force your acpi
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| 11:32 | add acpi=force to the list of kernel command options
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| 11:32 | <devilbues> how?
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| 11:33 | on default file?
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| 11:33 | <sbalneav> yes
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| 11:33 | <johnny> force you acpi? that is a lame solution :(
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| 11:33 | shouldn't it just work?
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| 11:33 | <sbalneav> It
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| 11:33 | it's probably a buggy acpi.
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| 11:33 | <johnny> yeah, i'm sure
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| 11:33 | it just sucks
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| 11:33 | <sbalneav> If it works for him, how's it lame.
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| 11:34 | <johnny> i'm not blaming him or you, but linux and/or the bios :)
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| 11:34 | <devilbues> sbalneav, done that, doesn't work either
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| 11:34 | maybe I should disable acpi on BIOS
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| 11:34 | ?
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| 11:34 | <sbalneav> Try that, maybe.
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| 11:35 | <Gadi> devilbues: thats the broken r8169 that u were replacing with r8168?
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| 11:35 | <sbalneav> Googling found that it was an acpi issue, and forcing the bios fixed it for some peple.
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| 11:35 | <Gadi> (was that you)
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| 11:35 | <devilbues> gadi, I tried the r8168 didn't work either
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| 11:35 | <Gadi> are you sure?
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| 11:36 | did you drop into the initramfs?
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| 11:36 | it can be tricky
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| 11:36 | <devilbues> it's working :) I had to enable ACPI on BIOS :)
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| 11:37 | horray thank you so much
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| 11:37 | <sbalneav> OK, so you had acpi disabled, then?
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| 11:37 | <devilbues> :)
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| 11:37 | <sbalneav> there we go. Google seemed to indicate it was related to acpi somehow.
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| 11:37 | <johnny> devilbues, now try it without acpi=force
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| 11:38 | <devilbues> yes because If i don't disable it the terminal doesn't shutdown down I have to press 4 secs on the power button
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| 11:38 | <sbalneav> if acpi's on, then pressing the power button should call the "halt" function.
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| 11:39 | What's in your /opt/ltsp/i386//etc/acpi/powerbtn.sh?
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| 11:39 | <devilbues> sbalneav it doesn't but I don't care, as long the network works...:)
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| 11:39 | <sbalneav> Mine's got one line: /sbin/poweroff -fp
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| 11:40 | But I think I've "optimized" that on my network
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| 11:40 | <devilbues> sbalneav I don't have that line
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| 11:41 | johnny, it works fine without acpi=force
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| 11:41 | <johnny> good.. it's just nice not to have any excess parameters
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| 11:41 | <devilbues> /sbin/shutdown -h now "Power button pressed"
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| 11:41 | <johnny> that's how i feel about it anyways :)
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| 11:41 | <sbalneav> devilbues: Well, maybe try replacing it with that, and see if it shuts down faster for you
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| 11:42 | You'll have to rebuild your image
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| 11:42 | <devilbues> ok, thank you very much you saved my day :)
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| 11:43 | <sbalneav> np
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| 11:47 | <_UsUrPeR_> Trying to update an image in F10 and it lays out the following error: Could not create destination file: No such file or directory. ERROR during mksquashfs creation of /opt/ltsp/images/i386.img. Aborting....
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| 11:53 | <johnny> and you have /opt/ltsp/images ?
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| 11:53 | <_UsUrPeR_> johnny: correct. I can boot a client off the server presently
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| 11:54 | <johnny> you'd have to have the whole command line to get help i guess
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| 11:54 | see what it is actually doing..
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| 11:54 | sure.. boot a client over nbd? or just nfs?
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| 11:54 | <_UsUrPeR_> just nfs
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| 11:54 | <johnny> haven't you been doing nfs most of the time?
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| 11:54 | no.. the image is nbd?
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| 11:54 | no need for mksquashfs except for nbd
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| 11:55 | <_UsUrPeR_> this is just post-install of ltsp-server (via yum)
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| 11:55 | so it's nfs by default?
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| 11:56 | <johnny> is this you first fedora10 install then?
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| 11:56 | <_UsUrPeR_> correct. I just want to set up a server to test our clients with
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| 11:56 | <johnny> i personally am not sure what warren is doing with fedora10 and newer ltsps, so i'm not sure
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| 11:56 | about what he is doing now that is
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| 11:56 | good guess on my part tho :)
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| 11:56 | <_UsUrPeR_> :D
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| 11:56 | <johnny> it was nfs by default in fedora 9 tho
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| 11:56 | and probably rhel
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| 11:57 | <_UsUrPeR_> it probably is in 10 too. Am I getting ubuntu mixed up? Is ubuntu the NDB-by-default install?
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| 11:57 | <johnny> yes
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| 11:57 | <_UsUrPeR_> ahh
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| 11:57 | I SEE WHAT I DID THUR
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| 11:57 | <johnny> hehe :)
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| 11:58 | mainly cuz it is easy to hack initramfs on debian/ubuntu to use nbd-client
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| 11:58 | after the initial ubuntu work
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| 11:58 | for the first ltsp5 distro
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| 11:58 | initramfs-tools*
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| 11:58 | <_UsUrPeR_> ok, next question then: I am having problems logging in with a client in F10. It's saying that it's having communication problems with the server. To be sure, I ran ltsp-update-sshkeys. Still no results :/
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| 11:58 | <johnny> but.. mkinitrd on redhat/fedora distros and genkernel on gentoo.. NOT SO MUCH
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| 11:59 | <_UsUrPeR_> exact error is: "no response from server restarting..."
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| 11:59 | * _UsUrPeR_ checks host file | |
| 11:59 | <johnny> no response after what?
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| 11:59 | and where
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| 11:59 | <_UsUrPeR_> in the login screen on our thin client
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| 11:59 | type the U and P and it gives me that error
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| 12:00 | it doesnt seem to wait either. It pops up almost instantly
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| 12:00 | <johnny> well.. after all this time, you should know what to do
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| 12:00 | right?
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| 12:00 | drop to console and try to ssh to the server
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| 12:00 | <_UsUrPeR_> oh that does work :)
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| 12:01 | sorry, I've gotten a little further
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| 12:01 | and ssh to server works indeed
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| 12:02 | * _UsUrPeR_ reboots | |
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| 12:06 | <_UsUrPeR_> ahah!
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| 12:06 | seems to work now :/
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| 12:16 | <edoardo> You guys
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| 12:16 | I am trying to run Kiwi-Ltsp from an Asus EEE Box
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| 12:16 | It runs fine from any client I am using, via PXE
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| 12:16 | With my newly bought EEE Box, it downloads and initializes the kernel fine, but it hangs at the SplashScreen
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| 12:17 | Any ideas?
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| 12:17 | <vagrantc> edoardo: i think you'd want to talk to cyberorg about kiwi-ltsp
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| 12:18 | <_UsUrPeR_> edoardo: what vid card is that in the eee pc?
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| 12:18 | <edoardo> vagrantc I read Ubuntu Ltsp got similar problems
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| 12:18 | With the EEE
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| 12:18 | _UsUrPeR_ video card... gimme a minute
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| 12:19 | <edoardo> Mobile Intel 945 Express Chipset family
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| 12:19 | That's what the built-in Windows XP is saying
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| 12:20 | <edoardo> _UsUrPeR_ Think it's using the wrong driver?
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| 12:20 | <_UsUrPeR_> edoardo: can you get to a tty screen (CTRL+ALT+F?) when it freezes?
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| 12:20 | you could check the xorg from there
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| 12:21 | err xorg.log
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| 12:21 | ...xorg.?.log
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| 12:21 | <edoardo> I get a screen if I choose Debug mode at boot
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| 12:21 | But
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| 12:21 | <edoardo> I never figured out how to get into the chroot, and therefore change the password for the tty screen
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| 12:21 | :(
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| 12:21 | <_UsUrPeR_> d'oh
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| 12:21 | I think it's linux:alpine
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| 12:22 | u/p
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| 12:22 | <edoardo> For Kiwi-Ltsp?
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| 12:22 | <_UsUrPeR_> crap
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| 12:22 | no, I am getting that mixed up
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| 12:22 | <edoardo> Cause I know that in regular Ltsp you just chroot in /opt/ltsp..., wherease that don't work at all on Kiwi-ltsp
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| 12:22 | <_UsUrPeR_> that's the default root p/w for ssh on a hacked iPhone
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| 12:22 | <edoardo> :D
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| 12:23 | <_UsUrPeR_> lulz
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| 12:23 | * _UsUrPeR_ checks his previous cyberorg conversations | |
| 12:24 | * edoardo nods. | |
| 12:26 | <_UsUrPeR_> ok
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| 12:26 | you should be able to ssh into a client from the server once it's booted
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| 12:26 | the password is linux
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| 12:27 | user was never specified, but I believe it's root
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| 12:27 | * _UsUrPeR_ reads further in convo | |
| 12:28 | <_UsUrPeR_> edoardo: yeah, I never asked him about the username, so I assume it's just root
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| 12:28 | <edoardo> awright
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| 12:28 | After that? I just check the Xorg log?
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| 12:29 | <_UsUrPeR_> correct
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| 12:29 | edoardo: I think I just found a picture of you online: http://www.daytondailynews.com/shared-gen/blogs/dayton/education/eduardo.jpg
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| 12:29 | d'oh. spelled wrong. That show is great :)
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| 12:30 | <edoardo> :p
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| 12:30 | Lemme reboot and I'll check
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| 12:30 | I am talking through putty, connected to the Ltsp Server, from the Windows HD of the Asus EEE Box that I am trying to debug on Ltsp
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| 12:30 | Can you get up more fucked up than that? ;)
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| 12:30 | <_UsUrPeR_> maybe if you were also on the moon? :)
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| 12:31 | <edoardo> That would settle it.
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| 12:31 | Neeway, see ya later.
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| 12:31 | <_UsUrPeR_> indeed
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| 12:31 | <stgraber> vagrantc: hey, are the ldm themes in Debian in a separate source package than ldm itself ?
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| 12:32 | <vagrantc> stgraber: there are none, we just currently ship with the default ltsp theme
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| 12:33 | stgraber: i'd actually be happy to work on splitting out your themes into a separate package, as then i can just copy that for a debian themes package
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| 12:33 | stgraber: i haven't really put much energy into it since debian is still in freeze
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| 12:34 | so new processing is slowish
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| 12:54 | <edoardo> _UsUrPeR_ still there?
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| 12:54 | I got into the tty shell
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| 12:54 | I am actually in it, now
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| 12:54 | <stgraber> vagrantc: ok, I guess I'll have a look at that soon, I don't really like uploading a 1.5MB large .diff.gz everytime I rebuild ldm :)
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| 12:55 | <edoardo> many (EE)'s in the Xorg.7.log file, but none seemed related to the video driver, which I thought may be the cause
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| 12:55 | <stgraber> and that'd reduce the debian <=> ubuntu delta which is always good to do
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| 13:00 | <edoardo> Can you change values like HorizSync and VertSync from lts.conf? How?
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| 13:02 | <alkisg> edoardo: http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LtsConf#X_HORZSYNC
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| 13:14 | <vagrantc> stgraber: i'd even be willing to do the work for you :)
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| 13:14 | <edoardo> In Kiwi linux, need I restart a service or daemon after modifying lts.conf?
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| 13:14 | I mean, Kiwi-Ltsp ;)
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| 13:14 | <edoardo> Or just restart the client?
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| 13:27 | <_UsUrPeR_> edoardo: I don't believe you do have to re-build
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| 13:48 | <Ahmuck> i'd like to see "theming" as well
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| 13:52 | <_UsUrPeR_> edoardo: just got back
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| 13:52 | sorry. what's up?
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| 13:57 | hey guys, having a problem getting plugged-in flash and hard drives to pop up in ubuntu 8.10 LTSP client desktops
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| 13:57 | it comes up on the server though
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| 13:59 | <six2one> _UsUrPeP_: i had the same thing + other issues, 8.10 seems kinda flaky out of the box
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| 14:00 | <sbalneav> _UsUrPeR_: Is the user in the "fuse" group?
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| 14:01 | * _UsUrPeR_ checks | |
| 14:07 | <_UsUrPeR_> sbalneav: negative. is that something that's needed?
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| 14:08 | <stgraber> vagrantc: cool :) shouldn't be hard, we have all the themes in debian/themes, the should just be moved to a new source package providing either a single binary package (ldm-ubuntu-themes) or multiple packages (one for each theme), each depending on ldm itself, the used gtk theme and icon set
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| 14:09 | <sbalneav> _UsUrPeR_: Yup, user must have fuse group priv's
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| 14:09 | <johnny> _UsUrPeR_, how did you add these users?
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| 14:09 | aren't new uses default to the fuse group if you use the right tools?
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| 14:10 | <_UsUrPeR_> johnny: system>Admin>Users & Groups>Add user
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| 14:10 | <johnny> hmm..
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| 14:10 | you'd think that would default to the fuse group..
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| 14:10 | <sbalneav> I don't beleive new users get added to fuse by default
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| 14:10 | <johnny> you'd think they would on a desktop system
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| 14:10 | <_UsUrPeR_> adter adding thr group, do I need to ltsp-update-sshkeys or anything?
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| 14:10 | <johnny> otherwise they can't do alot of things
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| 14:11 | no
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| 14:11 | <sbalneav> As a security measure, you wou;dn't want them to.
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| 14:11 | <johnny> for desktop users.. they would kind of want it..
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| 14:11 | <sbalneav> Not necessarily
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| 14:11 | <vagrantc> stgraber: yeah, that's what i figured.
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| 14:11 | <johnny> otherwise you can't do a whole lot
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| 14:11 | <schregge> hello, i have some troubles with my ltsp setuo (4.2 and 5.0, same behavior) The clients (via eden 500, onboard trident) are connectig to windows 200 terminalserver, and almost everything runs fine....
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| 14:12 | <schregge2> but the /graphics/pictures are looking very bad/crapy
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| 14:13 | <sbalneav> Well, define "very bad"
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| 14:13 | <schregge2> it looks like that there is something wrong with colormapping or so.... bad... hmm.... almost blue/black
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| 14:13 | <sbalneav> Have a screenshot?
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| 14:14 | <schregge2> hmm, where can i save the screen-shot?
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| 14:14 | <sbalneav> Some photo hosting site
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| 14:14 | <schregge2> well, i will see
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| 14:16 | <sbalneav> _UsUrPeR_: That fix your problem?
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| 14:18 | <_UsUrPeR_> sbalneav: that did the jorb
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| 14:18 | thanks a lot
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| 14:18 | <schregge2> http://img604.imageshack.us/content.php?page=blogpost&files=img512/4303/screenshotxh3.jpg
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| 14:19 | when i run rdesktop on my notebook, the pictures are looking fine
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| 14:19 | <_UsUrPeR_> this question is a non sequitur, but there is a server utility for seeing load averages. I remember it had the same name as the god Thor's raven. Does anyone know what it's called? :P
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| 14:20 | <schregge2> same behavior with trident / vesa and 16/24 bit
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| 14:22 | <sbalneav> schregge2: Looks like it's defauling to 16 colours
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| 14:23 | <sbalneav> _UsUrPeR_: umm, I use either "uptime" or "top"
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| 14:23 | <schregge2> hmm, what can i do?
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| 14:23 | <sbalneav> Well, try playing around with either the -C option to rdesktop... or...
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| 14:24 | <schregge2> the ts server only alows 8 bit
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| 14:24 | <sbalneav> -a 8 I think
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| 14:24 | -a <bpp>
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| 14:25 | <_UsUrPeR_> sbalneav: yeah, this made a database and was meant for long-term tracking. It kept track of RAM, bandwidth, hdd accesses, cpu temp, all that
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| 14:25 | <schregge2> ok, i will try that
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| 14:25 | <sbalneav> so if you've got a 8 bit colour server, then use the -a 8
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| 14:27 | <schregge2> well -C and -a 8 does not change anything
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| 14:28 | <_UsUrPeR_> sbalneav: oh man, it was Odin, not thor
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| 14:28 | the program was Munin
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| 14:33 | <sbalneav> schregge2: Not sure then. I never deal with rdesktop/windows boxes at all.
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| 14:34 | <schregge2> hmmm, thats funny
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| 14:35 | when i use iexplorer, the images are looking fine....
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| 14:35 | <sbalneav> schregge2: If you could run xdpyinfo, and look at the "depth of root window" line for display #0, it should tell you what the X server's running at.
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| 14:36 | <vagrantc> xwininfo -root | egrep 'Width:|Height:|Depth:'
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| 14:37 | <sbalneav> vagrantc: Ah, cool, I've always used xdpyinfo for that information
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| 14:38 | <vagrantc> sbalneav: yeah, i think "xwininfo -root" is a little easier on the eyes :)
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| 14:38 | <sbalneav> yeah, sure is.
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| 14:38 | <schregge2> hmmm,its not installed in the client root
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| 14:42 | <schregge2> looks like a color mapping issue from fireforx.... or why is it workink with iexplorer?
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