IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 16 May 2013   (all times are UTC)

00:00
<digitalirony>
ahhh
00:00
I like to use awesome
00:00
(not for my users obviously)
00:00
but it doesn't handle dual head too well on its own heh
00:00
and xinerama is just 'cleaner' feeling to me for some reason
00:01
<gdi2k>
I did try installing the proprietary nvidia drivers, but the confusion about versions and install procedures nearly made me cry
00:01
and we don't use 3d or whatever - no issues so far with stability
00:02
we also have a couple of machines with ati cards, and they work just fine too with no additional config
00:03
<digitalirony>
ahh
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00:03
<digitalirony>
its really not that hard with nvidia
00:03
really, the ATI drivers are the ones that piffff me off
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00:03
<gdi2k>
I think their open source drivers are coming along quite well now, especially for the older cards
00:04
(all our machines are 3 - 5 years old)
00:04
<digitalirony>
the hardest thing about installing nivida, is just make sure you have the headers installed, and also you prolly have to do something like 'export GCC=/path/to/gcc_3.2 or something
00:04
I really wished nvidia would have partnered with AMD instead of ATI though :/
00:05
<gdi2k>
but when I look through the nvidia packages, there are piles of different versions - which one is right?
00:05
<digitalirony>
I like AMD company more than intel, but I honestly like the nvidia cards way better
00:05
I just go to nvidia.com and download from them
00:05
<gdi2k>
yeh, same here
00:05
ah ok, so you don't use the ones bundled with Ubuntu or whatever?
00:06
<digitalirony>
nah, I don't like to use packaged drivers if I can avoid it
00:06
<gdi2k>
ok
00:06
<digitalirony>
usually they are out of date, and so many people make them etc etc
00:06
iunno
00:06
I am prolly 'doing it wrong'
00:06
just the way I do it is all
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00:08
<gdi2k>
ah, remember now - the issue I had was that I had some cards that were only supported by old drivers (legacy) and some only by the new, so it was all turning into a kludge
00:08
anyway, loving xrandr
00:09
<digitalirony>
heh
00:09
yeah
00:09
people do
00:09
I just kinda, been around a while, and while I love to learn
00:09
I don't fix it if it aint broke
00:09
<gdi2k>
if it ain't broke it don't have enough features!
00:10
<digitalirony>
lololol
00:10
if it aint broke, then you need to break it so I have something to fix
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00:23
<KISmith211>
does LTSP act as a stand alone internet cafe manager?
00:23
<digitalirony>
no, probably not
00:23
I mean it probably could
00:24
but just about anything with linux in front of it means its not gonna be 'plug n play'
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00:33
<gdi2k>
I ran an internet cafe with Linux for a few years using drbl (like ltsp fat clients)
00:33
it was very efficient in terms of admin etc. but a lot of people just wanted the windows games
00:34
now that steam for linux is there, it may be more attractive, but that rules out ltsp thin clients
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01:14
<digitalirony>
yeah
01:14
well steam on linux doesn't really support much
01:15
not yet anyway, the 'big games' still don't work yet
01:15
<gdi2k>
I think counterstrike is there (or coming...)
01:15
haven't tried it myself though
01:15
<digitalirony>
yeah
01:15
and so is umm
01:15
team fortress
01:15
its was the one the tested with
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03:34
<Ayah>
hi .. this is not ltsp topic but this is still linux .. can anyone help me on our ip phone ? we can't call to the other network :(
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05:10
<jason1125>
hello
05:11
is there a way to get microsoft office to run on ubuntu thin clients
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06:20
<eji>
I have installed wine and also installed some applciation using wine and these applciation are nbot being shared with clients
06:20
how can i share the application installed thru wine with clients in ubuntu ltsp
06:38
<digitalirony>
wine installs applications to the users home directory by default
06:38
and not globally
06:38
so I would suggest looking into some sort of global winerc file or settings etc
06:40
you could maybe put it in /etc/skel and copy it automatically to new users when you create them also
06:42
eji, here I found this on google: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=917422
06:55
<eji>
how to create syslink
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09:49* DJUnreal stretches... morning
09:51* muppis is 3D printing a wheelcaps for car tires. http://s16.postimg.org/3r9kyehdx/20130516_114456.jpg
09:52
<DJUnreal>
very posh
09:54
<muppis>
One broken and one missing, so why not to do all four of them..
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09:58
<DJUnreal>
sounds like a darned fine plan
09:58
<muppis>
It is. :D
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10:05
<DJUnreal>
if i was to decide i wanted something 3d printed, could you do it for me and post internationally then?
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10:08
<muppis>
Well, can't say directly. Postagefees from Finland to overseas are quite high and the printer isn't personally mine, it's my employer.
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10:10
<DJUnreal>
Finland isn't that far from me :)
10:10
i'm in the EU y'see
10:10
just
10:15
<muppis>
Well, that couldn't be a problem then. :)
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10:21
<DJUnreal>
so all i need to do is come up with a design that's printable
10:21
and you can do the rest, for a small 'donation' in the moneyary department
10:21
monetary even
10:22
<muppis>
Most likely. :)
10:22* DJUnreal begins the evil scheming
10:22
<muppis>
:D
10:36* DJUnreal is excited for next week too
10:37
<DJUnreal>
shiny new toy being donated to the scouting cause
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10:58
<DJUnreal>
1-12 CD/DVD duplicator
10:58
one disc goes in, 11 identical copies come out the other drives
10:59
<elias_a>
What bus does it use?
11:00
<DJUnreal>
none
11:00
it's a self contained unit
11:00
i mean, sure, there's an internal bus linking the drives
11:00
but i won't know about that until i get it
11:01
the beauty is though... it's brand new and worth around £1000 in UK money
11:01
and it's been used 6 times
11:01
and i'm getting it donated to me, in box, with destructions
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16:52
<gbaman>
alkisg what is wrong with this simple script to install wiringpi on an arm LTSP chroot? https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1122948/temp/wiringpi.sh
16:52
i get chroot: failed to run command `cd': No such file or directory
16:53
fatal: Not a git repository (or any of the parent directories): .git
16:53
but if i try it manually, it works fine
16:53
just apparently not with a script, is there a better way to do it?
16:58
<alkisg>
gbaman: `cd` is a bash command, not an executable, and chroot looks for executables
16:58
<gbaman>
how would one do it then?
16:58
<alkisg>
And, even if you cd'ed somewhere, it wouldn't stay in that dir for the next command
16:58
use chroot sh -c 'command1; command2; command 3...'
16:59
I don't know what you're trying to do though, to better comment on it..
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17:00
<gbaman>
one of the packages for the raspberry pi that is shipped with raspbian is wiringpi, allows access to the GPIO pins via python and is vital
17:00
and its instructions for installing it manually suggest best way is to build it from source
17:01
<alkisg>
Isn't there a .deb available?
17:01
<gbaman>
not that i have seen anywhere
17:01
normally people dont mind as it comes built into raspbian
17:03
<alkisg>
I could only recomment packaging it into a .deb file, to avoid the trouble + putting all the build tools inside the chroot...
17:04
<gbaman>
i have no problem the build tools being inside the chroot as things like git and make were going to be installed anyway
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<||cw>
the python packages have the build tools. it's not like C source
17:10
the python binary IS the build tool
17:11
it's basically a matter of "python ./setup.py" in most cases.
17:11
though I've not using wiringpi, but have use pyBBIO which is similar but for beaglebone
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17:14
<gbaman>
wiringpi is mainly written in C if I remember right
17:14
with a python wrapper, its build script apparently installs the python module too
17:15
I need to come up with some way of doing it, it is an essential item for teaching with the raspberry pi
17:16
its install instructions can be found at https://projects.drogon.net/raspberry-pi/wiringpi/download-and-install/
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