IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 26 December 2011   (all times are UTC)

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04:00
<arnotixe>
ok I installed the LTSP server package on linux mint. But running ltsp-build-client, it complains that /opt/ltsp/i386/etc is non-existant.. Where do I get the files to put in /opt/ltsp? My understanding is they have to be built?
04:35
<vagrantc>
arnotixe: no idea there's a linux mint port ... neither debian or ubuntu require anything like that to be present, so they must have forked from upstream
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05:07
<arnotixe>
vagrantc, well the repository is actually ubuntu's...
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13:11
<Skateboss>
anyone got any idea why local apps crash?
13:11
firefox etc etc
13:11
on ubuntu 11.10
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13:48
<markit>
hi, is it possible to have, just to experiment and deploy copying it, 2 chroots, one for thin clients (low ram) and one for fat clients, and the client boot and load using the correct one?
13:48
I know that fat image is good for thin also, but would love to have separate
14:00
<muppis>
Yes. You just need to configure dhcpd to give correct name for image file.
14:25
<markit>
muppis: yep, but based on what? the fat threshold is in lts.conf
14:25
dhcpd is not aware of it in that phase, right?
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14:39
<muppis>
markit, based on client mac you can define things for that client.
14:41
<markit>
muppis: ok, not that useful in my case then
14:42
I'll change dhcpd config file at will
14:43
thanks for the clarification :)
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17:08
<markit>
how is /home accessed by thin or fat client? Mounted with NFS?
17:16
<shawnp0wers>
markit: I believe with sshfs
17:19
<markit>
shawnp0wers: so for ubuntu ltsp, nfs is useless?
17:20
I could remove entries about chroot from dhcp server as well?
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in the wiki is wrote a incomplete sentence "Home directories mounted on login with sshfs unless the solution. "
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22:04
<arrrghhh>
hello all. i would like to make what seems like a little bit of LTSP, and a little bit of netboot...
22:04
basically i'd like to be able to boot "live" environments over the network
22:05
install linux over the network
22:05
and hopefully install windows over the network as well...
22:05
<vagrantc>
no LTSP involved, there
22:05
<arrrghhh>
orly
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22:05
<arrrghhh>
i figured the live part would be ltsp, no?
22:05
<vagrantc>
ah, yes, you could do that part with LTSP
22:06* vagrantc was thinking something more along the lines of debian-live or ubuntu-live
22:06
<vagrantc>
the "live" name biased me :)
22:06
<arrrghhh>
basically i'd like to pxe boot and have a menu for memtest, ubuntu install, just running ubuntu, etc.
22:06
<alkisg>
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCDNetboot
22:06
<arrrghhh>
eventually i'd like to look into provisioning windoze machines, but that looks like it's going to be quite tricky.
22:06
<vagrantc>
that's pretty easy to do
22:06
<alkisg>
I've put a script to netboot the ubuntu cd there
22:06
<vagrantc>
(well, i don't know about the windows part, but the rest)
22:07
<arrrghhh>
i've got netboot working
22:07
1 problem with that is it requires a lot of downloading from the 'net on install
22:07
<vagrantc>
set up a proxy cache of some kind
22:07
<alkisg>
That's the ubuntu desktop cd, so it gets everything over lan, not internet
22:07
Not the netboot cd
22:07
<arrrghhh>
Netbooting Ubuntu Live CDs, this seems perfect.
22:07
thanks alkisg
22:08
yea i don't expect the rest to be answered here. i may never get the windows part working, but it sure would be nice.
22:08
<alkisg>
To netboot windows, you can use open source tools, or you can use WDS
22:08
<arrrghhh>
alkisg, i'd like to just install windows over the network
22:08
no live environment needed there.
22:08
<alkisg>
That's usually done with Windows Deployment Services
22:08
<arrrghhh>
yea
22:08
no windows server.
22:08
<alkisg>
But there are open source alternatives for that
22:09
<arrrghhh>
i found this interesting project, but it's based around centos
22:09
and i couldn't adapt his guide, 1 sec
22:09
<alkisg>
Now, *instead* of all that, you could use LTSP to netboot windows virtual machines over the network
22:09
<arrrghhh>
http://www.ultimatedeployment.org/win7pxelinux1.html
22:09
<alkisg>
That way you'd only need to maintain 1 single image
22:10
<arrrghhh>
hrm, yea with windows drivers is going to be a pita huh. i was hoping to just push out installs for busted machines, only if they have a key on their laptop/desktop.
22:11
<alkisg>
I think that was the RIS alternative that I had looked in the past... http://unattended.sourceforge.net/
22:11
You don't need windows drivers for VMs
22:11
<arrrghhh>
true
22:11
wow this page is cool tho, thanks.
22:13
in my head this is simple, but in reality it's quite difficult.
22:13
<alkisg>
How much RAM do your clients have?
22:13
<arrrghhh>
i just want to throw iso's at my server and have 'em netboot...
22:13
2gb typically
22:13
<alkisg>
Sure you could use VMs then
22:13
You lose 5-10% of CPU speed, and about 128 MB RAM, but you only have to maintain 1 single image for all your clients
22:14
You serve the linux OS with ltsp, and you run windows with vbox or kvm on them
22:14
<arrrghhh>
what about installs... i guess this room wouldn't really pertain to that tho
22:14
i'd like to be able to install linux and eventually windows on machines for family/friends without burning discs, just plug 'em in.
22:15
<alkisg>
I told you the 2 pages I know about those questions
22:15
<arrrghhh>
cool
22:15
thanks
22:15
<alkisg>
I don't know anything else, and LTSP doesn't relate to that
22:15
live cd netboot for linux, and unattended.sf.net for windows
22:15
<arrrghhh>
indeed
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