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johnny: for the momnet
(intrepid): In /etc/inetd.conf, I have: 9571 stream tcp nowait nobody /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/ldminfod
But there's no /usr/sbin/ldminfod !
Should it be installed by default?
"alkisg" pasted "dpkg -L ltsp-server" (267 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/214
kc8pxy, probably not now
please leave me private message of whether you use gtk-engines with success
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I have some machines that it's difficult to get software on, but they might make passable X terminals.
...Can LTSP be installed to a hard disk?
easier to just put some other distro on it
sorry.. it could
there's just not much benefit
in comparison to the easier admin load of network images
Perhaps I should just learn Xdm
why don't you just net boot em?
or do you actually wanna run the software locally?
johnny: I suppose this one /could/ net-boot. It's got PXE
(if that works, I know other parts of the firmware don't)
you can also netboot from floppies
This has no way to add a floppy drive.
or you could put the pxe image on the hard disk..
no floppy? what does it have?
it has a hard disk.
...which I had to temporarily plug into another machine to get the OS installed.
johnny: how do i know which is running?
kc8pxy: 73 de kb9ylw
kc8pxy, unmerge gtk-engines-ubuntulooks
ball: you headed out?
if it exists
and emerge gtk-engines..
in the chroot?
kc8pxy: I should be going to bed, but I won't be able to sleep unless I figure out what I'm going to do with this box.
you have it on the server
if you have gnome
not that it matters if it exists on the server tho
johnny: mind if i do it in the morning? I'm in ubuntu on the ltsp dev server, and I'm a bit tired.
just pm me in the results
if it works, i'll fix the deps
it should work..
i'm still having problems with my system .. that i haven't figured out how to resolve yet
johnny: I was thinking of having all the X clients run on a central (headless) box.
so.. no cd, no floppy.. just harddisk?
on all of them? even the ones without netboot?
you could just put the rom on the hard disk
in the MBR?
...PBR? ...or in its own partition?
there are instructions somewhere
okay. I'll google for them in the morning. I keep falling asleep at the keyboard now.
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ball: you could install gpxe (http://etherboot.org) in the hard disk to enable them to netboot, and maybe also make a local swap partition to make some use of the local hd
bah.. didn't see that he left :(
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I was thinking about turning a VIA Epia into a diskless xterminal and got a tip to look at ltsp
so I did https://fedorahosted.org/k12linux/wiki/InstallGuide on my F10 x86_64 box
(need to add the bridge kernel module...)
or else https://fedorahosted.org/k12linux/wiki/NetworkSetup won't work with the bridge
but then the documentation stops
the fs under /opt/ltsp does not contain files
so how to continue from there?
Also: what about using gPXE, downloading a kernel etc via http and using AoE?
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I have some problems with ltsp5 i use a IBM netvista 2200 thinclient with debian etch distribution for server and client
booting takes a long time
and if i logon on client he logs automaticaly after random time off
Smashi: hmmm.. not sure i can help. can other thinclients login with simplicity?
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is there solution to diskless workstation only use network hdd
and all other resources to use localy
fatclient or localapps
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i think proccessors time
and can i setup ltsp to see my local drives
i see that at one hosting companny
yes, no problem
I suggest u check: http://www.nubae.com/ltsp-linux-terminal-server-project-netbooted-fat-client-for-ubuntu-hardy-and-intrepid
thanks a lot
today is my lucky day :D
buy thanks for help :)
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nubae, I think you should write down somewhere the basic differences between fat clients <=> localapps...
re sorry i had telephone
what is simplicity kc8pxy ??
what is simplicity kc8pxy ??
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Smashi: sorry.. simplicity is not a program/product.. can your other thinclients login without issue?
kc8pxy, did you try?
johnny: one sec.
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wife blew a circuit using a space heater and her blow dryer on the same circuit :)
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johnny: nuking unbuntulooks from chroot
and emerge gtk-engines..
it'll be one less ~arch
then we just need openrc :(
openrc is a clean install. just ~arch udev and sysvinit :)
i mean non ~arch
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johnny: any idea what's holding up openrc from going arch?
probably in bugzilla
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johnny: should i notice any difference? should i be testing with a user i created AFTER i installed the ltsp?
if it just works.. that is good
that's the point :)
same diff, changing the gtk-engines from ubuntulooks to vanilla makes no change, AFAIK
ok.. so i can remove that ~arch for ubuntulooks and just dep on gtk-engines in ldm
johnny: something i ran into trying to install the ltsp live at the shop. right now it's using the 2008.0 profile. when i did an emerge -vp gnome, i found a bunch of things like hal and dbus that were not in the profile useflags.. will those affect the ltsp in a negative way, being not specified?
if they become needed, we will add them
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johnny: will it help the serving if they are set?
johnny: or does it not matter for this?
oh.. on the server
it doesn't affect ltsp in any way
it does affect the programs you might run in general
with or without ltsp
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i have a new problem too i wrote a rdesktop startup script if i start the machine there is no problem inside i logon on my windows server and wait a few minutes and use the mouse the xserver crash without a debug message
i have this problem only with debian etch if i use debian lenny i get no errors and all is perfekt problem iss that i use an usbserver programm to get the ports from thinclient to the windows machine and this programm takes function only in edge not in lenny
then you should use lenny
perhaps our debian master might have another idea tho..
if i use lenny the usbserver has no function
"it hurts when i do !THIS!, doc" , "then don't do that."
you should focus on fixing that problem then
if i try to logon ro bash i get the error bash: root: command not found
i think there is one mistake and if i could disolve this problem than the machine works perfektly
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if i startup my thinclient it takes long he writes a line 0 value set a line 0 true 5 or 6 times
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sorry my english is not the best
smashi: no problem. i just couldn't resist :)
smashi: du spricht Deutsch?
smashi: ok, that's why:) ich auch.
soll ich mein problem nochmal auf deutsch angehen ??
gendered articles are one of the things i dislike most in the german language, or rather, the seemingly non-existant "pattern" by which they are assigned :)
smashi: nein. ich habe nur gefragt.
smashi: mein Deutsch ist schlecht. nicht gut genug zu mithelfen.
smashi: i just asked, because you english sounded like german was your native.
i sitting here since 2 weeks and have much problems with the client i become desperate
vagrantc, is Ubuntu supposed to have /usr/sbin/ldminfod? I got a reference for it in my inetd.conf, but I don't have ldminfod...
alkisg: it's split into it's own package on newer versions of ubuntu
alkisg: "ldminfod" package, i think.
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...so I also shouldn't have the inetd.conf entry, I guess...
Heh... any news for lenny?
smashi: I've been here for a while too, and still not all my goofs are not working.
oh, it's been hovering around 30-50 release critical bugs for at least 3-4 months now.
...maybe I should try sidux for starters, then :)
I don't now what i should do :-(
stgraber: i think the enable-popcon one is basically broken with newer versions of popularity contest...
stgraber: the plugin for that, that is...
I need the thinclients for my company
vagrantc: oh, ok I'll have to test it.
vagrantc: do you know what changed in popcon ?
stgraber: they moved a cron.weekly script into cron.daily and did some weird processing of the day of the week stuff...
anyone here able to assist smashi ?
stgraber: so it runs once a week from cron.daily ... which is just plain gross
stgraber: i'll look into fixing it...
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stgraber: i've got a patch for the popcon thing, just need to test it and push it.
Anyone managed to install virtualbox-ose-guest-utils in the chroot?
stgraber: you updated ltsp-trunk/po/fr.po without updating the PO-Revision-Date or Last-Translator :P
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is anyone aware with any recently introduced problems with mounting USB keys on LTSP with Ubuntu Hardy...? I upgraded a server from Feisty to Hardy and now mounting USB keys has gone sporadic...
It has worked with earlier Hardy servers I have set up...
haenck: did you upgrade the LTSP chroot as well?
vagrantc: oops, will update the header :) I did it by hand instead of using one of the translation tools, that's why ...
I noticed that someone reported a similar issue on the mailing list earlier this month, but I could not find if anyone had replied- or if he had fixed it...
haenck: it was for intrepid (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ltsp/+bug/317286) - I don't know if Hardy has the same problem
I commented out the configure_localdev() function temporarily to work around the problem, but now stgraber has a correctly fixed version in his ppa.
But again, I don't know if it's the same problem you're experiencing.
lemme take a look, thanks...
have to find out if this affects Ubuntu 8.04.1 and 8.04.2....
should affect both i didn't do any update to ltsp for .2
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vagrantc, where can I send the new el.po files? In the ltsp-devel mailing list?
actually... there doesn't appear to be an ltsp-init-commons file in my Hardy install, so this might not be the problem I am running into...
haenck: ls /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/ltsp/ltsp-init-common
alkisg: sure, ltsp-developer is fine
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stgraber: you want to use relative symlinks for all the plugins you just symlinked into the debian dir :)
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vagrantc: I now officially hate mc :)
midnight commander a norton commander clone (sort of)
Ryan52, ncurses version of many popular file manager guis
vagrantc: fixed and pushed
kc8pxy, i started cleaning up the quickstart profile
i moved the /etc/lts.conf creation to ltsp-client ebuild
i'm thinkin i need a more "meta" package
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