IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 26 September 2012   (all times are UTC)

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09:14
<ltspuser_52>
Hello, can someone please explain to me how to convert the image created by ltsp to an ISO file so I can install it?
09:15
someone here?
09:18
<muppis>
You dont't need to install it anywhere. Just boot machine from network and that's it.
09:19
Check setting from bios or use iPXE. If you have Windows installed you can use win32 loader
09:19
!win3-loader
09:19
<ltsp>
I do not know about 'win3-loader', but I do know about these similar topics: 'win32-loader'
09:19
<muppis>
!win32-loader
09:19
<ltsp>
win32-loader: win32-loader.exe can be used to add a "PXE - Network boot" option to the Windows boot manager. It's developed for Debian and it uses gPXE/iPXE for the network booting. You can download a binary from http://ftp.debian.org/debian/tools/win32-loader/unstable/ (if someone could write a wiki page for that it'd be great, a Greek page you can translate as a starting point is available at (1 more message)
09:29
<knipwim>
ltspuser_52: http://wiki.ltsp.org/wiki/Tips_and_Tricks#Adding_to_existing_windows_boot_loader_the_option_of_iPXE
09:44
<ltspuser_52>
Can someone tell me, when in gxpe (Pressed CTRL-B to go to command promtp) which commands and in which order I need to start the TLSP image available on the tftp server? At the moment I have 1. "dhcp any" to get an IP, 2. kernel tfpt://123.123.123.123/tlsp/amd64/gpxelinux.0", 3. "boot" But this tells me no configuration file found?
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09:50
<jahmon>
hello good people of the ltsp channel
10:06
i am having great problems building an ltsp kiosk environment in 11.10. with the --kiosk, firefox isn't starting with the kiosk
10:12
doesn't appear to be logging in as kiosk :(
10:19
<muppis>
jahmon, haven't use kiosk mode ever, but I remember it need autologin feature to be used.
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10:24
<jahmon>
it is autologging in.. but not as a kiosk user
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10:28
<muppis>
jahmon, then I can't really help more. Stand by and wait when idlers activates or joins in. They read logs and might help if knows better than me.
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10:48
<Hyperbyte>
I haven't used kiosk either, but when you find someone who does have experience with it, they'll probably want to see your lts.conf file. Could you upload it to pastebin?
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<jahmon>
my lts.conf currently just has my username and password in it
11:08
nothing related to kiosk#
11:08
thats defniitely a place to start though thanks!
11:25
<cyberorg>
jahmon, SCREEN_07=kiosk and KIOSK_EXE="/usr/bin/firefox" should work, remove user and password
11:26
kiosk creates temporary user for this purpose
11:27
<jahmon>
cool
11:27
ive now got the kiosk starting automatically
11:27
but not going to a default page
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11:54
<jahmon>
any idea how to set home page and remove all warning at the top? currently i have firefox is free and open source..
11:54
?
11:55
<Hyperbyte>
jahmon, not entirely sure, but I think the next step is locking down Firefox itself
11:56
(I could be wrong! ;-))
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12:30
<jahmon>
so any idea where the default config file would live for the kiosk
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12:30
<jahmon>
im trying to edit /opt./ltsp/i386/etc/syspref.js
12:32
<biomorph>
jahmon: Have you tried KIOSK_EXE="/usr/bin/firefox http://google.com"
12:32
Obviously replace google.com with the page you wish to go to.
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<jahmon>
ill give tha a try biomorph cheers
12:35
still trying to work out where id lock firefox down from within the image though.. my setting dont seem to come through
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<jahmon>
biomorph: that just makes the config file invalid :(
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<biomorph>
jahmon: Sorry - I though it might do.
13:17
Just thought it was worth trying.
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<jahmon>
my problem now is meerly locking down firefox, but i still can't find the location of the firefox preferences within the image... lots of differing ideas on the net!
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<frederickjh>
Just wanted to let folks know about a problem that I ran into and the solution. I am running Ubuntu 10.04 LTS. For some time when browsing the internet the page load would take a long time to load but once they started they would load quickly. This was both on the server and the clients but the clients seemed slowest. I figured out that /etc/init.d/networking was adding a local-link route to the routing. When I would delete this with: su
14:38
It is not needed for LTSP and can be safely uninstall. From the package description "It is primarily intended to be used inad-hoc networks which lack a DHCP server.", definitely not a LTSP environment. Not sure if this should be reported or recorded somewhere for future LTSP users that experience this slow down.
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<frederickjh>
Anyone know of a way to block a list of websites for certain users on a LTSP system but not for others?
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<jahmon>
force a proxy, or do a restrict based on the ips assigned out to the ltsp clients?
15:09
<Hyperbyte>
Or authenticate to the proxy
15:09
"squid" can do it.
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<frederickjh>
Ok, Would this be automatic? Like the browser passes the username on to squid or would the user need a new login/password for squid as well?
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<frederickjh>
Ok, I see squid can do a number of authorization schemes including PAM so it maybe the first time on a browser they would need to authenticate, then the browser would enter the credentials after that.
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15:17
<alkisg>
frederickjh: google for identd + squid
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<frederickjh>
ok alkisg, thanks!
15:17
<alkisg>
np
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<jahmon>
if anyone has any ideas how to set firefox defaults within a kiosk (running firefox 15) please get back to me, im gonna stay signed in thankx :)
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<alkisg>
!win32-loader
17:37
<ltsp>
win32-loader: win32-loader.exe can be used to add a "PXE - Network boot" option to the Windows boot manager. It's developed for Debian and it uses gPXE/iPXE for the network booting. You can download a binary from http://ftp.debian.org/debian/tools/win32-loader/unstable/ (if someone could write a wiki page for that it'd be great, a Greek page you can translate as a starting point is available at (1 more message)
17:39
<alkisg>
!learn win98-loader as win98-loader.exe can be used to add a "PXE - Network boot" option to Windows 98 machines. Download and run http://ts.sch.gr/repo/netboot/win98-loader.exe, specify C:\ as the installation directory, and finally run C:\boot\grub\install.bat
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<ltsp>
The operation succeeded.
17:39
<||cw>
interesting. works for DOS too?
17:40
<alkisg>
Yup
17:40
Errr well it's a 7z archive in an .exe sfx format, so you'd need some way to uncompress it from the console
17:41* alkisg hopes that's the last development he'll even need to do for Windows 98, may they RIP :)
17:41
<||cw>
a gui sfx and not a console one?
17:41
<vagrantc>
it's actually different than win32-loader.exe?
17:41
<alkisg>
vagrantc: win32-loader doesn't work with 9x
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<vagrantc>
ah.
17:42
<alkisg>
It uses grub4dos internally
17:42
<||cw>
right, win32loader is for xp's boot manager, win9x/doss is different
17:42* vagrantc hasn't really used anything since 9x
17:42
<alkisg>
||cw: hmm you're probably right, it would make more sense to use a console-based sfx tool
17:42
But it would need to be 16 bit and I'm really bored to do the necessary surfing
17:42
If you ever do it, please ping me with a link to the result...
17:43
<vagrantc>
can't you just use loadlin.exe?
17:43
<alkisg>
The filenames can all be 8.3 char length so they can be dos compatible
17:43
<vagrantc>
for dos?
17:43
<alkisg>
vagrantc: last time I tried that it hanged more often than not
17:43
And it required editing autoexec.bat, and provided no menu for selecting the os to boot
17:44
Grub4dos even has a `savedefault` option
17:44
So it remembers the last choice the user made, 98 or netboot
17:46
Today I went to install LTSP in a school with win98 (that's why I took the time to convert our old grub4dos.zip + gpxe to win98-loader.exe + ipxe). Unfortunately gpxe/ipxe seem to not work with the NICs there... I wonder if the MS netboot disk would work.
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18:06
<ltspuser_98>
Good evening all. Wondered if someone could help me with a strange dhcpd related issue.
18:08
<vagrantc>
ask away, and answers may come...
18:08
<ltspuser_98>
Ok.
18:09
I've set up a ltsp server and configured it according to bootpolish.net (system is Debian Squeeze).
18:10
Whenever a machine is turned on, it requests a ip address from the given range (in this case x.x.x.230 - 250).
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As soon as the image has been loaded, the client requests a new IP, out of range (here: x.x.x.148).
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<vagrantc>
do you have a second dhcp server on the network?
18:12
<ltspuser_98>
Some config file seems to be borked. I'm lost atm.
18:12
The client requests the IP from the same server.
18:13
<dead_inside>
whats the url for ltsp info on bootpolish.net?
18:13* dead_inside highly recommends using ltsp.org instead.....
18:14
<ltspuser_98>
The thing is it DID work before. After running a test, I have taken down the whole machine and set it up new. Same hardware, same OS and version.
18:15
<dead_inside>
something aparently was not the same
18:16
<ltspuser_98>
Obviously. I just can't make it out.
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http://bootpolish.net/home_ltsp
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<alkisg>
ltspuser_98: paste your /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf
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!pastebin
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<ltsp>
pastebin: the LTSP pastebin is at http://ltsp.pastebin.com. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebin, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. Don't forget to paste the URL of the text here.
18:19
<alkisg>
(or your /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf, if you don't have one under /etc/ltsp)
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<vagrantc>
on debian, /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf isn't used by default, you have to explicitly include it from the *real* dhcpd.conf
18:20
either /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf or /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf
18:20
<alkisg>
It sounds like it has a different range for PXEClient* and another for "Linux ipconfig*"
18:21
<Luizcezar>
hello guys, im on panic wtih kernel panic, have a network card Natsemi DP83815, put gPXE and now im on kernel panic - not syncing
18:21
<alkisg>
Other clients boot?
18:22
<Luizcezar>
my notebook boot
18:22
thin clients genesis II not
18:23
<alkisg>
It might be a missing module then, which distro is that?
18:23
(and version?)
18:23
<ltspuser_98>
http://pastebin.com/Ub563DYg
18:23
<Luizcezar>
all up to date, ubuntu 64 12.04
18:23
http://pastebin.com/u8gBbq2Y
18:24
<alkisg>
Luizcezar: is it easy to boot that client with e.g. a usb stick, so that you see if the linux kernel recognizes that NIC, and which module it needs?
18:26
If not, you can try putting `break=mount` in pxelinux.cfg/default, and run ipconfig or udhcpc there, to see if it recognizes the nic
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18:30
<Luizcezar>
sry im back
18:32
alkisg: i downloaded the image.lkrn with my NIC natsemi (network card National Semiconductor DP83815)
18:32* vagrantc notes an increase in ltspuser_NN folks dropping in
18:32
<alkisg>
Luizcezar: do you have the pci-id for that card?
18:32
<vagrantc>
did we publicise irc in some particular way recently?
18:32
<alkisg>
Luizcezar: gpxe does its job. It's the linux initramfs that has problems with your card (probably)
18:33
<ltspuser_98>
I think it would load and boot. It just can't find a server after the misconfiguration.
18:33
<alkisg>
vagrantc: in ltsp.org => irc
18:33
<Luizcezar>
alkisg: i dont know the pci-ID
18:33
<alkisg>
Luizcezar: did you see my messages above?
18:33
(09:24:57 μμ) alkisg: Luizcezar: is it easy to boot that client with e.g. a usb stick, so that you see if the linux kernel recognizes that NIC, and which module it needs?
18:33
(09:26:26 μμ) alkisg: If not, you can try putting `break=mount` in pxelinux.cfg/default, and run ipconfig or udhcpc there, to see if it recognizes the nic
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<Luizcezar>
ok, i got kicked, i saw now. i will try
18:36
<alkisg>
ltspuser_98: you can try `break=mount` in pxelinux.cfg/default, and then `cat /tmp/net-eth0.conf`, to see the ROOTSERVER etc, to verify that it's the correct DHCP server that answers the request
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18:54
<Inar>
OK, I've added break=mount and the client stops without requesting a new IP.
19:04
The folder /tmp is empty.
19:06
<Luizcezar>
alkisg: have another way to discover my pci id instead of lspci? i just have the model of network card.
19:07
<alkisg>
Inar: try running: ipconfig eth0
19:07
Luizcezar: did you try to boot the client with a usb stick? Or is that not easy to do in your case?
19:08
<Luizcezar>
i just can boot for CFlash, and its doing kernel panic
19:09
i have syslinux installed, if i press shift and another command i dont know
19:09
then i try to boot from usb
19:10
<Inar>
alksig: it's working alright. No IP address, assigned one and could ping into my net.
19:10
<alkisg>
Inar: ok, now type exit, so that the boot process continues
19:11
"no ip address" => you mean ipconfig didn't get an ip address and you had to assign it yourself?
19:11
Also now try cat /tmp/net-eth0.conf and check the values there
19:13
<Inar>
alksig: correct.
19:13
<alkisg>
Inar: what happens if you run udhcpc?
19:13
<Inar>
Boot continues, but at this point eth0 gets reconfigured and requests the bad IP again.
19:15
<alkisg>
Reboot, break again, run udhcpc
19:15
<Inar>
Here's the output:
19:15
Sending discover
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19:16
<Inar>
sending select for 10.100.100.148 (note that dhcp ip range is 231 and up)
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19:17
<Inar>
Lease of 10.100.100.148 obtained (???)
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19:19
<alkisg>
It sounds like you have another dhcp server in your network, and I was thinking that you could see it from /tmp/net-eth0.conf after running ipconfig, but ipconfig doesn't work for you (which is weird, but ok, ipconfig is a bit buggy)
19:20
To get /tmp/net-eth0.conf from udhcpc you can try running /scripts/init-premount/udhcp
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19:20
<Inar>
Btw, ....147 is currently the highest static IP currently active.
19:22
<Luizcezar>
alkisg: discovered the pci id , 100b , 0020 , can we see is its compatible with ltsp?
19:23
<alkisg>
$ grep 100b.*0020 /lib/modules/3.2.0-31-generic-pae/modules.pcimap
19:23
natsemi 0x0000100b 0x00000020 0x000012d9 0x0000000c 0x00000000 0x00000000 0x0
19:23
So Linux uses this module for your card
19:24
<Luizcezar>
what can i do? im newbie with it :)
19:24
<alkisg>
...and it is included in the initramfs
19:24
So your problem *isn't* a missing module
19:24
<Luizcezar>
the problem is the root i think, the config file
19:25
phewww
19:25
<alkisg>
Which config file?
19:25
<Luizcezar>
pxe.cfg/default?
19:26
3.2.0-31? im with 3.2.0-30 i think
19:26
yep, i will upgrade
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19:33
<alkisg>
||cw: http://ts.sch.gr/repo/netboot/dos-load.exe :)
19:33
Runs under plain dos, but needs himem
19:33
(so if you have win98, it needs F8 => console mode, not ctrl+F5)
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19:38
<mhterres>
hi
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19:42
<Inar>
Back.
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20:01
<alkisg>
vagrantc: some time ago I asked you to include an `ltsp-update-kernels` call in ltsp-client-core.postinst, but I don't remember your answer... did you agree to do it in the future?
20:02
(for cases where ltsp-build-client isn't used, like ltsp-pnp)
20:02
<vagrantc>
alkisg: i vaguely recall this, and don't think i've done any such thing
20:03
alkisg: you're talking about /usr/share/ltsp/update-kernels, yes?
20:03
<alkisg>
Right, or a trigger for initramfs rebuilding
20:03
<vagrantc>
probably *and* trigger an initramfs rebuild
20:04
alkisg: i'm not opposed to it in principle
20:04* alkisg doesn't remember update-kernels well, checks the code now...
20:05
<vagrantc>
ltsp-update-kernels is server-side
20:05
<alkisg>
You're right, no `update-initramfs` in update-kernels
20:05
<vagrantc>
and you're talking about server and client on the same install
20:05
<alkisg>
I was talking about /etc/kernel/postinst.d/ltsp-update-kernels
20:05
Not the /usr/sbin one
20:05
<vagrantc>
which is the same as /usr/share/ltsp/update-kernels
20:05
<alkisg>
But yeah, wrong name
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20:07
<alkisg>
!vagrant-todo
20:07
<ltsp>
vagrant-todo: (#1) pxemenus, or (#2) tweak debian/rules to install appropriate update-kernels.conf, or (#3) update-kernels fix memtest support or drop it
20:07* alkisg placed the hint... :D
20:08
<alkisg>
!alkisg-todo
20:08
<ltsp>
alkisg-todo: (#1) ltsp-update-image.symlinks, or (#2) upload fixed nbd-server package in the PPA, or (#3) implement LDM_[PRE|IN|POST]SESSION_CMD, or (#4) put IPAPPEND support in ltsp-update-kernels, or (#5) prefer kernels from img rather than dir, or (#6) LDM password hash, or (#7) check remoteapps in fat clients, or (#8) launch ltspfsd/cdpinger upon first media insertion
20:08
<Inar>
http://pastebin.com/2EtPjder
20:08
<vagrantc>
hah!
20:08
i forgot
20:09
<Inar>
I don't quite understand why the dhcpd denies the request but the client still gets served.
20:10
<vagrantc>
alkisg: your #8 should already happen...
20:10
<alkisg>
Inar: what arch is your server and your chroot? both i386?
20:10
<vagrantc>
alkisg: er, actually no
20:10
<Inar>
Yes.
20:10
<vagrantc>
alkisg: cdpinger exists because there's no way to detect media insertion... that's exactly what cdpinger does.
20:10
<alkisg>
vagrantc: no, I see them eating up RAM on clients with 128 ram where students never use usb sticks... :(
20:10
Ouch
20:10
<Inar>
Hardware is a HP Proliant.
20:10
<vagrantc>
alkisg: and shouldn't be needed for usb sticks.
20:11
<alkisg>
vagrantc: no udev events for cd roms? /me has trouble believing that...
20:11
<vagrantc>
alkisg: i'd love to be proved wrong.
20:11
alkisg: but there definitely wasn't anything in the past.
20:11* alkisg will try udevadm monitor in a bit
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20:11
<alkisg>
Inar: from your server, try: /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/lib/klibc/bin/ipconfig -n eth0
20:11
<vagrantc>
alkisg: if it has changed, we could drop cdpinger entirely.
20:12
<alkisg>
as root
20:12
Inar: this will make your server "fake" a dhcp request
20:12
If anything answers, then you have the proof that there's another dhcp server in your network
20:12
It won't apply the ip it gets
20:13
KERNEL[21178.849191] change /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1f.2/host1/target1:0:0/1:0:0:0/block/sr0 (block)
20:14
...although I should be checking in a thin client... hmm...
20:14* alkisg postpones it for tomorrow
20:14
<vagrantc>
alkisg: udev rules for that would rock.
20:15
<Inar>
alkisg - just guessing for the lack of knowledge: can it be that there's a dhcpd beyond my NAT/router answering?
20:15
<alkisg>
Not without a dhcp proxy, no
20:15
But maybe your router has a dhcp server?
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20:16
<Inar>
....
20:18
Holy xxxxx, it IS the router!
20:19
It's a spare.... didn't realize it had a dhcpd on.
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20:21
<Inar_>
...and the terminal ist booting.
20:22
I can't believe it. This crappy 50-Euro spare cost me 4 solid hours.
20:22
<alkisg>
vagrantc: yup, in my vbox thin client,LOCALDEV=false, and udevadm monitor says "KERNEL[150.496782] change /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:01.1/host2/target2:0:0/2:0:0:0/block/sr0 (block)"
20:22* alkisg checks without dbus now...
20:23* vagrantc hopes this means we can get rid of cdpinger
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20:23
<vagrantc>
would be a *lot* simpler
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20:24
<Inar_>
Alright, that was it. All teminals are booting.
20:25
alksig - thank you very much for your help.
20:25
<alkisg>
You're welcome, btw, use <tab> to get the irc names right ;)
20:25
vagrantc: it works without dbus as well, so it's not related to udisks or anything, it's plain udev
20:25
So we can write a rule for that
20:26
<Inar_>
Hardly ever using irc:) Thanks a lot again and g'night all.
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20:26
<alkisg>
!bts-todo
20:26
<ltsp>
Error: "bts-todo" is not a valid command.
20:26
<alkisg>
!learn bts-todo as Get rid of cdpinger, use udev rules instead
20:26
<ltsp>
The operation succeeded.
20:28* alkisg notes that udhcp doesn't care much about DHCPNAKs...
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20:30
<alkisg>
root 1640 0.0 0.4 2132 396 ? Ss 23:28 0:00 /usr/bin/ltspfsd
20:30
root 2295 0.0 0.0 2132 72 ? S 23:28 0:00 /usr/bin/ltspfsd
20:30
root 2302 0.0 0.5 29780 496 ? Ssl 23:28 0:00 ltspfs 127.0.0.1:/var/run/drives/cdrom /tmp/.root-ltspfs/cdrom
20:30
root 1644 0.0 0.7 3848 672 ? Ss 23:28 0:00 /usr/sbin/cdpinger sr0
20:31
So todo #8 is about automatically saving that memory...
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20:33
<vagrantc>
alkisg: but you should be able to get rid of cdpinger entirely in all cases, not just in your limited ram case
20:33
<alkisg>
Yup, I got that
20:34
Btw, how does ltspfsd work? Does it use the ssh socket for encryption?
20:34
And, is there something wrong above ^? I shouldn't have ltspfs, should I? Is it because of ltsp-pnp?
20:35
<vagrantc>
alkisg: ltspfs is the fuse process for an actually mounted filesystem
20:35
<alkisg>
But isn't that supposed to run on the server?
20:35
<vagrantc>
yes...
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20:35
<vagrantc>
but if you have both installed, i think it mounts locally as well by default
20:35
<alkisg>
Ah, for localapps
20:36
<vagrantc>
and rdesktop and such
20:36
<alkisg>
...couldn't we fix it a bit so that it uses the real mount for localapps?
20:37
And mount it either as the local user, if it exists, or as some "ltsp" user from which we'd run the rdesktop or other scripts...
20:37
<vagrantc>
we're giving ltspfsd double-duty as an automounter
20:37
it was gadi's hairbrained idea that he convinced us was good.
20:38
<alkisg>
OK let's see:
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20:38
<alkisg>
If rdesktop runs, it can access the files locally whether it runs as root or some local user
20:38
If localapps are enabled, we do have a local user
20:38
So I don't think we need ltspfs to run locally in any case
20:39
We just need to be clever with ltspfsd and automount the media as the correct user
20:40
Another thought is for ltspfsd to be launched only when some media is inserted, quit when it's removed, and use the ssh socket for encryption
20:41
<vagrantc>
ltspfsd should only run if there's some device that might potentially use it
20:41
already
20:42* alkisg tries without a cdrom inserted...
20:43
<alkisg>
root 1625 0.0 0.4 2132 400 ? Ss 23:42 0:00 /usr/bin/ltspfsd
20:43
<vagrantc>
unless you've disabled the rules to run cdpinger, it will still run ltspfsd
20:43
<alkisg>
Ah, cdpinger runs ltspfsd?
20:44
<vagrantc>
ltspfsd is started from udev whenever there is something that *might* use it.
20:44
<alkisg>
Wouldn't it be better when there's actual media inserted?
20:46
<vagrantc>
see previous comments about the purpose of cdpinger
20:47
if you have CD hardware, ltspfsd will start, unless you've configured it to ignore certain events that might trigger cdpinger.
20:47
in my experience, running it without any devices plugged in only result in ltspfsd starting when you plug a device in.
20:47
it's been a long time since i've tested that behavior.
20:48
but i worked to make that possible to remove the ltspfsd call from the init script, and have it be purely udev triggered.
20:49* alkisg tries without cd hardware...
20:49
<alkisg>
Right, no ltpfsd there
20:50
Cool, so by removing cdpinger we can have ltspfsd only run when media is inserted instead of when a cd rom hardware is available
20:50
<vagrantc>
exactly.
20:50
<alkisg>
One step closer to removing LTSP_FATCLIENT completely :D
20:51* vagrantc isn't convinced mounting them "normally" will work out better
20:53
<alkisg>
Why have the ltspfs/d layer for localapps, rdesktop etc? What are the benefits there?
20:53
<vagrantc>
the automounter/unmounter
20:54
but if you can make it work better, by all means :)
20:54* alkisg hasn't understood the problem completely yet
20:54
<vagrantc>
and maybe technology has changed since it was implemented
20:54
<alkisg>
Automounting ==> udev -> ltspfsd -> mount as the local user instead of (as root + call ltspfs)
20:55
So automounting would still work
20:55
<vagrantc>
what's the local user?
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<vagrantc>
from udev's perspective?
20:55
<alkisg>
Either root, for rdesktop, or the user that has logged in, for localapps
20:55
ltspfsd can detect which user has logged in
20:56
(localapps include fat clients as well)
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<markit>
anyone here using KDE in Fat configuration, by chance?
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