IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 29 January 2014   (all times are UTC)

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00:09
<fataddict>
Looking for help to change ltsp default session to lubuntu
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00:36
<fataddict>
Found the answer. Thanks for the support ;-)
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08:38
<lifeboy>
I have jetpipe not starting on a thin client, despite the patches that where made. Looked at the script (ltsp-client) and it should start, but doesn't. If I start is manually with "jetpipe /dev/usb/lp1 9100" is starts without a hitch. How can I troubleshoot this?
08:38
I don't want it to start on all the clients of course, otherwise I could just add it to /etc/rc.local
08:39
Does ltsp-client have any logging that happens? I can't see anything, but maybe the authors know more? :-)
08:40
Or should I file a bug report?
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08:55
<lifeboy>
Correction: If I start it manually with "jetpipe /dev/usb/lp1 9100" it starts without a hitch.
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11:56
<flo1546796>
hi, i used to use XKBLAYOUT option in /etc/ltsp/lts.conf to set custom keyboard layout to a specific mac adresse. But since few day it doesn't work anymore. Someone can help me to fix it ?
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17:10
<Negreiros>
Hi, anyone here has installed ltsp on redhat distribuition as 5.6 or 6.1?
17:10
I used 4.1 in past but I could not intall the new version
17:10
do I need to compile kernel or things like this?
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17:58
<highvoltage>
o/
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(waving to say hi not putting my hand up for red hat hehe)
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18:32
<vsuojanen>
Hi
18:34
is anyone familiar with ltsp, initramfs and loading network interfaces ?
18:38
I have tried to bring up wlan device in initramfs and the device wlan0 just doesn't show up
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18:44
<alkisg>
vsuojanen: you're missing the module for the card
18:44
<vsuojanen>
3.5.0-45-generic, /opt/ltsp/amd64, I try to copy and init the wlan driver in /usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks/wlan from these locations /lib/firmware/RTL8192SE, /lib/firmware/rtlwifi
18:45
<alkisg>
But, I think you should start with what are you trying to do... load ltsp over wifi? and, check if it's worth it...
18:46
<vmlintu>
vsuojanen: do you have the actual wlan driver module from /lib/modules in your initramfs?
18:46
<vsuojanen>
yes. load small kernel and initramfs from local (usb) and mount rest from the ltsp-server
18:47
<alkisg>
Are you the same person that was asking about the same thing here a week ago?
18:47
<vsuojanen>
nope :)
18:47
<alkisg>
OK, in short, the local initrd needs to match /lib/modules/<kernel-version/* from the server
18:48
<vsuojanen>
how can I test that the modules get to the initramfs that I am loading
18:48
<alkisg>
So when you update the kernel on the server, you also need to update the client initrd
18:48
<vsuojanen>
I amdd confused are they loaded from the chroot or should they exist in the initramfs
18:48
<alkisg>
So if you'll be updating the client initrd periodically, why not just copy the nbd image instead, which is already supported...
18:48
!local-boot
18:48
<ltsp`>
local-boot: If you want LTSP fat clients on a low-speed network, you can put i386.img on e.g. C:\Boot\LTSP\i386.img and use this command line in pxelinux.cfg: APPEND ro initrd=ltsp/i386/initrd.img init=/sbin/init-ltsp root=/dev/sda1 rootflags=ro loop=/Boot/LTSP/i386.img; IPAPPEND 3
18:49
<alkisg>
I.e. forget about wlan booting, boot from the usb stick instead, and only use wlan for /home/username mounting, via the usual sshfs
18:51
<vsuojanen>
i was trying to keep the client as thin as possible but still boot over wlan
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<alkisg>
wlan is very slow, it's only good enough for 1 client... barely
18:54
But for /home/username over sshfs, it can support many clients
18:56
<vsuojanen>
is wland slow also if ssh is disabled ?
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<vsuojanen>
then I'd also test is it possible to change ltsp to use nx to combensate the poor xsession over wlan
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<alkisg>
vsuojanen: to boot a client, you need e.g. 50 mbps
19:05
*MB, sorry
19:05
To boot 10 clients, 500 MB
19:06
Wlan clients get very low bandwidth when there are collisions
19:06
So they'd probably need about 5 minutes to boot...
19:06
If you're OK with things going 10 times slower than normal, then sure go ahead
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<vsuojanen>
I know that I need 50-70 MB for each client
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<vsuojanen>
5 clients for an AP
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<alkisg>
Less than 10 mbps per client... really lame, only good for /home, not for the root file system nor for remote X. True, x2go might work there after the slow boot
19:12
Client specs? ram, cpu?
19:16
<vsuojanen>
I was not thinking yet client specs because my target was to test heavy server and thin clients
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19:18
<gbit>
Hello, I'm wondering how I can use Cubieboard (ARM processor) to be a LTSP Client?
19:18
<alkisg>
LTSP fat clients or localapps would work much better of wlan than thin clients
19:19
*on wlan...
19:19
Thin clients wouldn't really work, unless you use something like x2go
19:19
<vagrantc>
gbit: i've tinkered with the cubieboard a bit, but haven't made too much progress
19:19
<vsuojanen>
yes. but is the hooks directory right place to set the spesific driver firmware for initramfs ?
19:19
<gbit>
I mean fat clients, sorry
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<vagrantc>
gbit: hardest part will be finding a kernel with all the needed features, it's not well supported in mainline
19:20
<alkisg>
gbit: sorry I was talking to vsuojanen, ignore whatever I said above
19:20
<gbit>
vagrantc: how about raspberry pi?
19:20
alkisg: allright
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<gbit>
How great would be to trash old hardware changing to raspberry PI or any of that. Low cost, low energy consumption.
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<vagrantc>
gbit: i have instructions for raspberry pi... but it's not very useable
19:22
<gbit>
vagrantc: why not?
19:22
<vagrantc>
gbit: it's very slow
19:22
<gbit>
oh no
19:23
<vagrantc>
it's also not well supported by the upstream kernels
19:23
!raspberrypi
19:23
<ltsp`>
raspberrypi: (#1) LTSP with raspberry pi: http://cascadia.debian.net/trenza/Documentation/raspberrypi-ltsp-howto/, or (#2) To use a similar environment to LTSP on the raspberry pi http://berryterminal.com/, or (#3) https://github.com/gbaman/RaspberryPi-LTSP
19:23
<gbit>
So the exit is to wait for berryboot or something?
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<gbit>
Berryboot works for A10 version, I got the A20.
19:24
!cubieboard
19:24
<ltsp`>
Error: "cubieboard" is not a valid command.
19:26
<gbit>
vagrantc: Do you think would run OK on the cubieboard2? I mean by speed.
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19:52
<DannyCan>
Hello everyone. I am running an xubuntu LTSP fat client and it asks for the root password everytime I choose shutdown or reboot using the GUI. How can I fix it to non-sudo users can shutdown?
19:52
<alkisg>
What xubuntu version? 13.10?
19:52
<DannyCan>
yes
19:53
<alkisg>
File a bug report for LTSP to "support" logind
19:53
Until now it only "supports" consolekit...
19:53
!ltsp-bug
19:53
<ltsp`>
ltsp-bug: To file a bug report for upstream LTSP, go to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ltsp
19:54
<alkisg>
In the meantime, google for "policykit" for a workaround where anyone can shut down the system...
19:54
Not just "active users"
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<alkisg>
(or, use 12.04... :))
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<DannyCan>
I have submitted the bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ltsp/+bug/1274267
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<vsuojanen>
alkisg do you know where the firmware destination should be in initramfs if one wants to add wlandevice that can be used in the kernel boot parameters as DEVICE ?
20:02
<alkisg>
No, I haven't tried that because imho the result wouldn't be useful...
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<vsuojanen>
you're saying that one has never tried to load new firmware because the lan interfaces usually are loaded in the linux kernel ?
20:05
<alkisg>
No, I'm saying that I haven't tried to load wlan drivers from the initramfs because I didn't find any cases where that would be useful to me...
20:05
<vsuojanen>
excactly, np
20:05
thanks
20:06
<alkisg>
You're welcome, you might want to stick around and see if anyone else has tried it
20:06
Or, try the mailing list...
20:06
<vsuojanen>
sure
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<DannyCan>
@alkisg I'm not familiar with policykit and may need some directions to get the workaround setup. Is there any documentation regarding this or could you help?
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<alkisg>
# cat /etc/polkit-1/localauthority/20-org.d/usershutdown.pkla
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[Allow Shutdown]
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Identity=unix-user:*
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Action=org.freedesktop.consolekit.system.stop-multiple-users
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ResultActive=yes
20:09
You need something similar, not exactly that one, for allowing anyone to shutdown the clients
20:10
Google the related paths/keywords etc
20:10
And it would be for systemd/logind now, not for consolekit
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20:29
<smurf>
8 - 10 mins to boot LTSP - any way to shorten that?
20:29
Using Centrify Express for AD authentication
20:29
pn Ubuntu 12.0.4.3
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<DannyCan>
@alkisg I created the file "etc/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d/usershutdown.pkla" in the chroot with [Allow Shutdown] Identity=unix-user:* Action=org.freedesktop.login1.reboot-multiple-sessions ResultActive=yes
20:35
Does that look right to you? I'm about to test it.
20:35
<||cw>
smurf: mine boots in about 10 seconds. what hardware?
20:35
<alkisg>
DannyCan: no, you don't want the multiple-sessions one
20:36
That's to allow reboot when multiple users are logged in
20:36
You need the "reboot: allow any" part... instead of allow active
20:37
<action id="org.freedesktop.login1.reboot">
20:37
<allow_any>auth_admin_keep</allow_any>
20:37
That should be "yes" instead...
20:38
It's defined in /usr/share/polkit-1/actions/org.freedesktop.login1.policy , but you shouldn't change it there, but do the /etc override instead...
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<alkisg>
!learn alkisg-todo as "support logind for fat clients"
20:38
<ltsp`>
The operation succeeded.
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<smurf>
||cw - Pentium 4 fatclient, 1gb to 2gb onsystem
20:43
server has 12 gb ram, multiple core
20:43
<alkisg>
smurf: from "Loading vmlinuz..." to LDM, 8 minutes? What network speed?
20:43
<||cw>
is this the client boot time or server?
20:43
I have P4 thin clients that also boot pretty quickly, less than a minute for sure
20:43
<smurf>
sorry - client boot time from immediate post PXE boot
20:43
client boot time
20:44
Performance is great once booted
20:45
I have other clients (schools) that have far quicker boots, and near identical hardware
20:45
<alkisg>
Does it get stuck for many minutes in some specific point? E.g. could it be trying to resolve something DNS-related, and wait until it times out?
20:45
!quiet-splash
20:45
<ltsp`>
quiet-splash: to disable the splash screen in Ubuntu, in order to see any boot error messages, run sudo gedit /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default and remove quiet splash plymouth:force-splash vt.handoff=7
20:46
<smurf>
I have not shut off the splash / quiet, so I have not yet observed the boot process
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20:47
<smurf>
ltsp: do you mean that I should remove all those parameters that you state?
20:48
<||cw>
yes
20:48
<alkisg>
"ltsp" is a program, a "bot" that this channel runs to help us remember things...
20:48
<smurf>
OK, I will try that....but in the meantime...likely culprit is..? DNS?
20:49
useful bot, that "ltsp"....
20:53
<alkisg>
smurf: check if that client has a realtek 8029 network card, which is 10 mbps and not 100 mbps ;)
20:54
<smurf>
NICs are Broadcom or Intel gbe
20:54
as is network and switches
20:55
all gbit
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