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stgraber: is ldm still broken in ubuntu? i just uploaded 2.0.42 to debian with the patches reverted ...
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ogra: i just talked with joeyh about using debconf-apt-progress in the ltsp-client-builder udeb to get a better progress bar ... did you remember exploring that?
no, since when does it exist ?
looks promising... though with all the file descriptor redirections, this stuff gets tricky
the prob is that we run two different subprocesses in ltsp-client-builder, one for ltsp-build-client and one for ltsp-update-images
i never managed to make both work
beyond that in-target already steals the descriptors
showed me some ways to stop and resume progress ... i.e. start here at 25%, stop at 50%, do stuff, start back up at 50% ...
right, but it requires that you capture the info from the different subprocesses somehow
showing a progressbar was never my problem :)
are you in europe btw ?
ogra: yeah, extremadura :)
|07:10||* ogra just remembered there is debconf next week|
debcamp this week
ah, i was already wondering why you work at that TOD :)
the highlight of my day, yesterday was unloading a truck full of debian-branded wine
time of day
it's kind of silly that spain is still at +2 ... solar high noon is around 2pm or so...
speaking of which ... lunch!
not only spain :)
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helo all, do you know what might be a reason of "acpi: Invalid PBLK length" during boot of thin client? it stops booting on console login screen... thanx for help
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szczym, what distro/release ?
sounds like a kernel problem
there are some links to the ACPI debugging page
i installed it on other server computer and inserted HD into new server. would it be a problem ?
in ltsp you set kernel options in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default
but its booting fine into gnome and all works on on server
you said you see the message on a thin client
yes, i see on client
so ut doesnt matter if your server works fine, the thin client is different hardware and you are seeing a hardware problem with the kernel
|08:07||* ogra would start with this suggestion: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/197267/comments/3|
thanx for help ogra, i will tray that
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vagrantc_: "question" is if you have a question about ltsp, please go ahead and ask it, and people will respond if they can. please also mention the linux distro and release you're using. :)
if i put ltsp on a particular os does it automatically netboot that OS?
does that make sense?
ltsp5 will typically build an LTSP environment that's built using the host OS.
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vagrantc_, oh, since when does ltsp-server depend on debconf-utils ?
ogra: a good long while ago
probably added it to support preseeding or some such
ogra: seems like all the way back to 2005
wow, i wasnt aware
ogra: part of mdz's merging pere's patches
hmm, five lines changed, ltsp-build-client --arch armel is running ;)
|09:01||* ogra wonders if it gets through until kernel selection|
vagrantc_, do you have any idea if $DEBOOTSTRAPOPTIONS needs to be available in the second stage if building for --foreign ?
hrm "W: Failure while installing base packages. This will be re-attempted up to five times ..."
would be nice if it could be a bit more verbose
especially since debootstrap works fine just building a chroot
funny and it just moves on then
ogra: i thought --foreign actually wrote a script that should hopefully pass those options on...
but i don't really know ...
ah, good, then i did it right
i sure hope you don't have to repeat all the same options...
yeah, that would be silly
stgraber, we need to adjust ltsp-build-client for new upstart
/opt/ltsp/armel/etc/event.d/tty[2-6] are gone now
|09:16||* vagrantc_ is reconsidering doing any whitelisting at all|
in karmic+1 ubuntu can use upstart jobs for everything ... then it wont be needed anymore
we just switched to upstart 0.6
and given that we aim for 10sec bootime in karmic (including the dropping of usplash) fiddling with the bootprocess should be obsolete anyway
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hrm, many dependency errors
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seed mistmatches ... thats indeed bad
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Is there anybody otu there??
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--exclude sysklogd,klogd makes it work
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yay, it gets through until linux-image now ...
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ogra: thanks for your changes, I plan to tag and upload tomorrow or Monday
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stgraber, so essentially karmic should support these http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2009/01/pegatron-free-029.jpg once they are on the market :)
given that the netbooks are supposed to cost below $200 i would expect the nettops to be around $100 ...
what are the nettops?
mmmhhhhh... small lowpower desktops w/o HDD,etc (ala netbook), maybe?
ogra: do you have real video driver now ?
last I heard it was some FB driver without real acceleration
there will be one, not sure it will be open, but it will be in ubuntu (worst case like nvidia)
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ogra: wow. you've got armel support working?
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i have this problem here
Kati_Zwisch: can you try appending the following in a new line at the end of /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default?
...and reboot the client...
is the kernel bug?
Kati_Zwisch: it may be, but it may also be something else. Did you try what I said?
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is it a kernel bug?
Kati_Zwisch: also, does the client have 1 NIC or does it have 2 NICs?
just a moment, I'll try it
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alkisg: hey, i've got support for ipappend in the latest ltsp :)
vagrantc: is that commited upstream?
alkisg: that's what i meant by latest ltsp
uploaded to debian, of course :)
also supports pxe menus, and memtest86*
Yeah but I'm a little fuzzy on which part of the initramfs is common between debian and ubuntu, what is ltsp upstream and what initramfs upstream etc
i pretty much have been meaning to get those features in since 2007
well, when debian pulls a new upstream version, it'll have support for it too
er, ubuntu pulls ...
Did the creation of pxelinux.cfg/default changed? I.e. the PXELINUX_CMDLINE variable in ltsp-kernel.conf?
|16:57||* alkisg needs to read up on this :)|
it has options to append arbitrary files to the configs ... but the defaults essentially work the same.
still plenty of room for improvement, but most of the cases i've heard of that people have been fighting with should be more easily dealt with
I think Ubuntu will use udhcpc for Karmic, though...
shouldn't change anything
this is just the pxelinux boot menu
Well, the back-end handling would be different (i.e. ip=xxx parameter)
|17:00||* vagrantc finds it ironic to hear talk of udhcp again|
|17:02||* vagrantc has uploaded new versions of all things related to ltsp to debian in the last two days|
I don't know how bug-free udhcpc is, but I'm sure it has fewer bugs than ipconfig!
vagrantc: what do I need to install to try them out? sid or experimental?
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alkisg: it's in sid, although you can probably install lenny with just the ltsp-relevent packages.
i'm testing it now
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so all stgraber's new cron code won't work
well, current ltsp seems to work in debian lenny/stable
at least with initial testing...
with the bonus that sound still works ...
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pulseaudo doesn't start where?
on debian testing/squeeze ...
works fine on debian stable/lenny
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