IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 6 July 2007   (all times are UTC)

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<CrypTom>
hi all, what is the easiest way to create a windows bootmenu entry for booting ltsp with pxe?
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<Q-FUNK>
ogra: what is the correct package to file a bug against, if there's regressions in LTSP support between Edgy and Feisty?
04:14
<ogra>
ltsp
04:15
i'll assign it if it belongs anywhere else
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<Q-FUNK>
ok
04:28
thanks
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<filorp>
hi all
07:17
finally yesterday my first ltsp client started working!
07:18
thank you everybody for your help
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<filorp>
now just for curiosity I want to ask something that I didn't find on the online doc
07:28
well, the answer is: the kernel included in the ltsp server is a special kernel from ltsp installation or it takes the kernel from the host machine?
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<killsalad>
hi, i've got a small question - is there any way for enabling sound for flash apps on terminal (sound works in any other app)
07:31
?
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<filorp>
I have an easy question - should I use the file lts.conf in ltsp 5 for configuration?
07:49
as well ltsp 4.x
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<ogra>
filorp, you can use lts.conf in ltsp5 but unlike the 4.x series this file is used to override the autodetected values and do fine tuning ... in 4.x it was needed for a lot more stuff
07:52
filorp, ltsp-build-client builds the client environment from the packages of your distro ... so you will have the kernel version that was the latest for your distro when you ran that script
07:53
killsalad, which distro ?
07:53
and release
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<killsalad>
ogra: Xubuntu 7.04 ltsp5
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<ogra>
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdubuntuFAQ
07:54
see that :)
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<killsalad>
ogra: thanks sometimes i'm too stupid ;)
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<filorp>
ok ogra, so I can use the same sintax for lts.conf in ltsp 4 as well in ltsp 5, in my case for client video resolution ?
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<ogra>
filorp, see the docs in /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/doc/ltsp-client-core/examples/
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<filorp>
ok
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<ogra>
or if you have an olddr version of ltsp5 /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/doc/ltsp-client/examples/
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there is a table with supported values
07:58
and an example file
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<filorp>
there is only one file there "lts.conf" no table value file
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<filorp>
no problem I think I'm going to find it on gogle... thankyou
08:20
maybe because I have old ltsp version - 0.99debian12
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<wizzy>
I am confused about the root-path param in /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf - how do I add a root-server ?
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<wizzy>
I used to put it as "root-path 172.20.1.3:/opt/ltsp/i386"
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<sbalneav>
Morning all
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<ogra>
!s
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<ltspbot>
ogra: "s" is Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
08:40
<sbalneav>
Monring ogra!!!
08:41
ogra: Hey, jammcq brought me one of those classmates!
08:41
<ogra>
!!
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<ltspbot>
ogra: Error: "!" is not a valid command.
08:41
<ogra>
way cool
08:41
<sbalneav>
So, if I stick a 4 gig memory stick in the back of it, how would I go about doing an install?
08:41
I could be a tester for the stuff you do.
08:42* ogra just got a new moble ... wih miniSD slot ... i'll put a ltsp-client image on it ;)
08:42
<ogra>
so i can boot off my mobile *g*
08:43
sbalneav, i'm working on something installable that isnt full of hardcoded crap .... there is nothing yet
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<sbalneav>
ok, my kids love it.
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<ogra>
sbalneav, your ltsp will love it :) especially with gutsy and compiz ;)
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<sbalneav>
:)
09:07
<ogra>
my new X detection code works fine btw
09:07
its just a bit odd on slow machines ... since the X startup takes a bit longer and flashes once
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<sbalneav>
ogra: hey, I'm gonna be doing some more hacking on ldm2 today. I was thinking of merging from your tree before I start. Any gotchas I should be aware of?
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<ogra>
not yet, no
09:39
most of the stuff i did isnt in the tree yet
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<jammcq>
hey kidz
09:40
<ogra>
yo jammcq
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<fgiraldeau>
ogra: in which branch does the new code for X detection is hold?
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I would be happy to give you feedback about it.
11:44
I look to ldm2 code, but on launchpad, I think that the code is not up to date, isn't?
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I'm going to launch, see ya
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<ogra>
launchpad has the last working code
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there are a lot new changes in sbalneav's branch but not stable yet
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the X detection script isnt in the branch yet, i still need to do more tests
12:10
http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/28825/
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<Q-FUNK>
ogra: did you get my e-mail?
12:17
<ogra>
Q-FUNK, yep, adress is right
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<joebaker>
Is there an IRC channel for NoMachine issues using FreeNX?
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<fgiraldeau>
ogra: thank you for the link
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<Lumiere>
joebaker: it may be better to ask in #freenode
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<sahil>
all my clients are booting except for 3, they say they're getting a pxe timeout
14:26
getting dhcp address and all that, the 15 others are booting no problem
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<sahil>
figured it out/bad cables
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<vagrantc>
jammcq, sbalneav, ogra: http://bugs.debian.org/432024 thoughts ?
15:48
ooooh. bulgarian translation: Създаване на обкръжение за LTSP
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last time i put out a call for translations, we didn't get a huge response. but this time, we're getting flooded.
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<jammcq>
hey
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hmm
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sounds like a few tweaks to the udev rules, but I don't know how we'd make it optional
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<vagrantc>
hm.
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that's basically what i was thinking ... i definitely like that i can boot a thin client and get access to the hard drive ... but i can see that that's not always the desired behavior.
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<Gadi>
jammcq: you could use this: ATTRS{removable}=="1" in the udev rule to pass a param to the add_fstab_entry
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then have add_fstab_entry check lts.conf for whether to restrict or allow
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<vagrantc>
yay.
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<vagrantc>
Gadi: nice. i will try that out.
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<Gadi>
np - let me know how it goes
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<Q-FUNK>
vagrantc: probably because we sold a few thin clients there :)
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<vagrantc>
Q-FUNK: hmmm?
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<Q-FUNK>
vagrantc: bulgaria
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<vagrantc>
Q-FUNK: ah. i've gotten a few bug reports from the person who submitted the translation in the past, too. :)
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<Q-FUNK>
vagrantc: there is a network of universities that is present in a doxen of countries that bought PXE boxes from us. a few of those ended up in bulgaria.
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<vagrantc>
Q-FUNK: http://bugs.debian.org/431955
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<Q-FUNK>
his name rings a bell
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vagrantc: btw, any ideas on debuging that etherboot unit I mentioned the other night that stalls during a framebuffer change?
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<vagrantc>
nope
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it's a curious bug
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<Gadi>
i only have a few mins, but... Q-FUNK, was that with a geode?
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I have had to blacklist gxfb for a geode unit
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<Q-FUNK>
Gadi: old Geode. SC2200.
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<Gadi>
and even then, usplash doesnt want to die after ltsp-client
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so, I boot without splash
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...fornow...
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<Q-FUNK>
usplash is a pita even outside ltsp world
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<Gadi>
try blacklisting gxfb
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<Q-FUNK>
Gadi: which distro and release?
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<Gadi>
any of the ubuntus
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at least
17:15
ltsp, that is
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<Q-FUNK>
ah. I'm running this on Debian Etch.
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<Gadi>
could be same
17:15
i doubt it is distro dependent
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<Q-FUNK>
no usplash on debian ltsp
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<Gadi>
even better
17:16
<Q-FUNK>
yup
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<Gadi>
try just blacklisting gxfb
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in $CHROOT/etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
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<Q-FUNK>
or in this case gx1fb
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<Gadi>
what does debian use for splash?
17:17
splashy?
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<Q-FUNK>
no splash whatsoever
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<Gadi>
ah
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<Q-FUNK>
ok, I noticed bettter this time: it stalls right after the "Check initrd..." prompt
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vagrantc: it seems that it might be that the initrd is either corrupt or at the wrong path or not included in the nbi.img
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<Gadi>
bye, guys. have a great weekend
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<ukasz>
hi
17:31
i am using ltsp v5 and i would like to enable my thin clients to choose between several x servers
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now i have done XDM_SERVER in lts.conf and it points out to a diffrent x server
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every time when i do ctrl + alt + backspace i am returning to console.
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<shale>
sd
17:37
howdy... can anyone point me at a good howto for using ltsp5 with win2k3 terminal server?
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<ukasz>
shale: sry mate i haven't done that
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<shale>
really?
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<ukasz>
mayby you know how to enable xdcmp chooser ?
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<shale>
only using a linux termserv?
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i don't know how to use xdmcp chooser
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<ukasz>
yep only linux termserv
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<shale>
once i've got ltsp5 installed, how do itell pxe clients to boot off it?
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<ukasz>
you mean how to boot thin client via pxe ?
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<shale>
well i have the client setup to boot pxe
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i just need to put some mojo into the dhcp server methinks
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<ukasz>
well you need option-root-path
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let me see in my dhcp.conf file
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filename "/tftpboot/pxelinux.0";
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option root-path "/opt/ltsp/i386";
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next-server 192.168.2.1;
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<shale>
thanks
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<shale>
anyone in here use windows termserv w/ ltsp5 ?
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i'm trying to figure out how to use ltsp5 to automatically load tsclient
18:48
anyone here use wilisystem
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<ukasz>
sry mate i don'thave a clue
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i am going to bed
18:49
cu
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<vagrantc>
gadi is the one who wrote rdesktop scripts
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<racter>
hi - i'm having a weird glitch where my users can't log out (using gnome)
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has anyone seen this before?
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<Q-FUNK>
vagrantc: yup, I can confirm that something in the initrd image doesn't jive with nbi. purposely putting another rootdir in the mkelf-linux options, the kernel gets up to the root mounting part and then complains that it cannot mount root.
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vagrantc: it seems to be the exact same spot where it normally barfs if the initrd is used.
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<vagrantc>
curious
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Q-FUNK: but it works fine with PXE clients ?
19:39* vagrantc contemplates testing etherboot
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<Q-FUNK>
vagrantc: yes, but the pxe clients are entirely different hardware.
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<vagrantc>
easiest way to do that is load etherboot over PXE :)
19:40
Q-FUNK: well, i'll try and test if etherboot/nbi.img is totally broken
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<Q-FUNK>
this is on etch, btw
19:40
thanks! please let me know if you spot anything.
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<jammcq>
howdie all
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<vagrantc>
Q-FUNK: do you know what version of etherboot they have ?
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<shale>
my client is getting PXE-T01: File not found... how can i tell if my dhcp settings are correct and/or verify the tftp is going to the right place?
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<[shodan]>
is there a way to have ltsp booting from a windows server ? maybe the same way as RIS ?
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<vagrantc>
[shodan]: not really.
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shale: grep filename /etc/*/dhcpd.conf
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<shale>
shodan: i'm putting ltsp in a vm on my win2k3 termserv
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<fgiraldeau>
hi there
21:46
Does the irc channel is logged somewhere?
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<vagrantc>
i think ltspbot logs it, but the logs aren't published
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<dtrask>
ogra in here?
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hmm...kinda' quiet
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<jammcq>
hey dtrask
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<jammcq>
musta been something I said
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<fgiraldeau>
vagrantc: thanks, I will setup my own logging system...
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<jammcq>
public logs would be nice
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<fgiraldeau>
How does the ltspbot is working? I gonna use irssi...
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<jammcq>
ltspbot is written in Perl I think
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<ltspbot>
jammcq: Error: "is" is not a valid command.
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<jammcq>
scotty takes care of it
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<jammcq>
dtrask: hey
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<fgiraldeau>
cool, thanks
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<dtrask>
jammcq: hey
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'sup?
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<jammcq>
not much
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<fgiraldeau>
testing
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<dtrask>
fgiraldeau, it works
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<fgiraldeau>
http://downloads.revolutionlinux.com/ltsp-irc-log/ltsp.log.txt
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Have a nice day all, I'm gonna sleep a bit.
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