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Channel log from 14 October 2008   (all times are UTC)

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06:44
<Scix>
How can I configure the screen resolution on a klient to be set automaticly when X starts? Using a Ubuntu 8.04 TS
06:45
<ogra>
it happens automatically
06:45
inless you fiddle with lts.conf
06:45
*unless
06:51
<Scix>
Can it hva something to do with VMware Workstation maybe?
06:51
*have :)
06:52
<ogra>
the X detection asks the monitor for its DDC values ... no idea what vmware reports there
06:54
<nubae>
where does one define the default session ldm should use?
06:54
<ogra>
depends
06:55
by default it uses the default session of your server, so whatever you define there will be used ... distro specific ...
06:55
then you can additionally override it with LDM_SESSION in lts.conf to point to a particular session manager
06:56
which is not distro specific
06:56
<nubae>
nah, I need to keep using ldm, but want to get it to use a sugar session, so I do that on the server then
06:57
<ogra>
if sugar comes with a session manager and ou are on a debian or ubuntu system, update-alternatives --config x-session-manager
06:57
no idea what fedora uses
06:57
or even gentoo
06:57
<nubae>
yeah its ubuntu
06:57
sugar packages are finally totally up to date
06:58
<ogra>
yes, i saw the import
06:59
<nubae>
I'm curious if the jabber collaboration stuff will work over ltsp
06:59
but I dont see why not
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<nubae>
yeah sugar doesnt have a session manager it seems
07:03
<ogra>
so you need LDM_SESSION
07:03
you could also create ~/.xsession if its only one user
07:05
<nubae>
well can try for one user to begin with...
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07:10
<cyberorg>
nubae, it does, check /usr/share/xsessions/sugar.desktop
07:10
you can also use LDM_SESSION=/usr/bin/sugar-shell
07:13
<ogra>
well, then the packaging is broken
07:14
<nubae>
yeah its there, but update-alternatives session manager doesnt work
07:14
<ogra>
the package needs to provide x-session-manager and set an alternative
07:14
if it really has a session manager
07:14
<nubae>
well, starting up sugar-shell gives me the shell only, without any activities... is it that way on OpenSuse too?
07:16
Ive installed sugar and sugar-activities, I probably have something missing, even though thats all one should install according to sugar wiki
07:18
<cyberorg>
nubae, nope, it should give activities too
07:18
<nubae>
then it be broken
07:18
<cyberorg>
nubae, you might need "dbus-launch sugar-shell"
07:19
<nubae>
hmm no exec
07:19
?
07:19
<ogra>
in the .desktop ?
07:19
<nubae>
well Ill try it in a .xsession first
07:20
nope no activities panel
07:21
well, have to go, will fiddle around with this later
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07:33
<loca|host>
hello all
07:34
i want to change the screen resolution in my 'kiosk' ltsp thin client, but when i chroot to my i386/ i find no xorg.conf in /etx/X11
07:35
<alkisg>
Guys, to try to debug the ldm translation, is there anyway to insert a /bin/sh inside the ldm script, but the environment variables which I will manually modify inside the shell to be preserved (=returned) to the script?
07:36
loca|host, which distro?
07:36
<loca|host>
Ubuntu
07:36
<alkisg>
version?
07:36
<loca|host>
i've installed the LTSP server with the kiosk plugin
07:36
<alkisg>
No, ubuntu version?
07:36
<loca|host>
Ubuntu 8.04.1
07:37
<alkisg>
X_MODE_0=1024x768 in lts.conf
07:37
/var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf
07:37
<loca|host>
i have no lts.conf there
07:38
i have these: abi-2.6.24-16-generic initrd.img-2.6.24-16-generic nbi.img-2.6.24-16-generic System.map-2.6.24-16-generic .......
07:38
<alkisg>
You have to create one, and put a [Default] line on top
07:38
Let me find you some documentation on this...
07:39
!lts.conf
07:39
<ltspbot>
alkisg: "lts.conf" is http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LtsConf
07:39
<alkisg>
Heh... go it! :)
07:39
*got
07:40
<loca|host>
thanks man
07:40
<alkisg>
no problem! :)
07:56
<ogra>
alkisg, ldm translation is fixed
07:56
<alkisg>
ogra, wow, downloading.. :)
07:56
<ogra>
i added some parsing to the initscript of ltsp-client
07:57
so it should set LANG and locale correctly to teh one your server uses on new builds
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<alkisg>
Thanks man!!! I'll post for feedback later on.
07:58
<ogra>
it works in german ... kind of
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07:59
<ogra>
problem is that you need to install the gnome-langpack for your language in teh chroot if you want all UI parts translated
07:59
some buttons rely on the gtk translations to be there
07:59
<alkisg>
Like, the preferences etc button? OK, these are minor... :)
07:59
<ogra>
preferenc and close atm
08:00
err, cancel, not close
08:00
<alkisg>
No problem, the problem was the "username" and "password" parts especially on very young students
08:00* ogra needs to fix the UI, its way to jumpy
08:01* alkisg is rebooting to complete the new updates... :)
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08:01
<ogra>
the input box suddenly jumps around according to the size of the string, i remember i had used a fixed width for it
08:02* vagrantc wonders if that was the patch that cyberorg made that Ryan52 applied
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08:04
<ogra>
vagrantc, i havent looked at the UI for a while
08:05
<ltsppbot>
"cyberorg" pasted "openssue ldm input field patch?" (32 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/34
08:05
<vagrantc>
ogra: 913 in ldm-trunk
08:05
<ogra>
me fires up olive
08:06
<vagrantc>
GUIs, eh?
08:07
<ogra>
hmm
08:07
it shows a lot but not the revision number ?!?
08:07
ah
08:07* vagrantc puts trust in commandline tools
08:07
<ogra>
i missed a checkbox
08:10
<vagrantc>
stgraber, sbalneav, ogra: how big of a deal was the cdpinger segfault issue fixed in 0.5.5 ?
08:10
is it something i should definitely try to get into lenny?
08:10
<ogra>
i havent seen cdpinger not working here
08:10
it works fine on hardy for me
08:11
<vagrantc>
i haven't had any problems with it either ...
08:11
<ogra>
yeah, that fix is crap
08:11
<vagrantc>
just wondering what the case is where it comes up
08:11
<ogra>
(ldm)
08:12
we need a fixed minimal size for the label
08:12* ogra goes to dig into that and if he finds time will also fix the vertical position relative to the input box
08:13
<ogra>
actually the whole code is crappy :) ... i knew that when i first wrote it :P
08:13
<vagrantc>
heh
08:14
<cyberorg>
good thing i dont understand any of it ;)
08:19
<ogra>
we should really use a two column table that span over the whole width i think so the label is completely independent from the input field
08:19
*spans
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08:19* ogra tries that quickly in python
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<ogra>
grmbl !
08:21
CURLY BRACKETS ARE USEFUL
08:21
!
08:21
!!
08:21
<ltspbot>
ogra: Error: "!" is not a valid command.
08:21
<ogra>
pfft you dont use curely brackets either silly python bot :P
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<ogra>
grrr
08:22
do we really need a style document in the tree ?
08:23
thats really annoying
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08:23* ogra wonders why we use LDM_12HOURCLOCK instead of properly reading the format from the locale
08:25
<ogra>
i think Gadi added that
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08:25
<ogra>
hamm, and there is still that old cancelbutton cruft cluttering the code
08:25
we never used that
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08:27
<cyberorg>
go ogra go!!
08:27
<jammcq>
g'morning friends
08:28* vagrantc waves
08:28
<ogra>
hey jammcq
08:28
<jammcq>
hey ogra
08:29
<pscheie>
hay jammcq
08:29
*hey*
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08:34
<ogra>
ok, cancelbutton code gone
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08:37
<ogra>
hmm, in the ltsp theme the label seems properly aligned
08:38
weird
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08:49
<sbalneav>
Morning all!
08:49
<jammcq>
Scotty !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
08:49
<sbalneav>
Morning jammcq!
08:49
Someone's up 10 points in the polls, I see!
08:50
<jammcq>
hehehehe
08:50
and someone else is DOWN 10 pts
08:50
<vagrantc>
hrm. make-doc is in non-free. *sigh*
08:50
<sbalneav>
Morning vagrantc
08:50
<vagrantc>
hiya
08:50
<jammcq>
wow, early for vagrantc
08:50
<sbalneav>
We vote today.
08:51
<vagrantc>
sun hasn't even risen yet.
08:51* sbalneav looks out window
08:51
<sbalneav>
Sure it has :)
08:51
<jammcq>
here too
08:51
<sbalneav>
File a bug
08:51
<jammcq>
the sun always rises
08:51
<vagrantc>
it's like i live in another universe
08:51
<jammcq>
vagrantc's crossed over to the dark side I guess
08:52
<sbalneav>
+bug 53936358215 "Sun not rising consistently for all users"
08:52
<vagrantc>
yeah, just to read some make documentation.
08:52* ogra is just getting beaten up for not having session dbus support in ltsp sessions
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08:52
<alkisg>
ogra, Greek out of the box! If you ever come to Greece, you got all the beer you can drink! :P
08:52
<jammcq>
but don't worry, this is one of those problems that will take care of itself if you leave it alone long enough
08:52
<ogra>
alkisg, i'll quote you on that :)
08:52
<alkisg>
heh!
08:52
<sbalneav>
ogra: Who's beating you up?
08:52
<ogra>
sbalneav, seb128
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08:53
<ogra>
sbalneav, and tedg ... we apparently use fusa instead of the logout dialog in intrepid
08:53
that was such a nice last minute decision :/
08:53
<sbalneav>
Last time I checked, dbus doesn't have a "connect to remote" option
08:53
<ogra>
and it can only communicate via dbus ... i'm writing patches for it since yesterday
08:54
we also have a uest session by default in ubuntu now
08:54
thats exposed through "change user" in fusa
08:54
so i try to find ways around all that, the guest session can only be spawned by gdm etc ...
08:55
fun
08:55* ogra loves the fact that linux is a multiuser system ...
08:55
<ogra>
no, i'm not bitter, i only taste like that
08:56
<sbalneav>
I'm trying to google "fusa", and I'm not finding anything useful.
08:56
<ogra>
fast-user-switch-applet
08:57
<sbalneav>
ahhhh
08:57
<ogra>
http://gould.cx/ted/blog
09:01
http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/ltsp_vbox.png
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09:14
<vagrantc>
"integrate in session management and IM status" huh?
09:17
<ltsppbot>
"vagrantc" pasted "conditionally set udev priority when building on ubuntu" (33 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/35
09:19
<ogra>
vagrantc, indeed that assumes that our buildds dont run fedora :)
09:20
<vagrantc>
ogra: oh, i am making that assumption ...
09:21
ogra: is that not safe to make? :)
09:21
<ogra>
lol
09:21
indeed it is
09:21
<vagrantc>
what about the opensuse build service? :)
09:23
<ogra>
no idea
09:23
and i dont really care
09:23
if users install ltspfs from there, thats their own fault
09:33
nubae, bte, there was just a fix for sugar uploaded (not sure you follow the intrepid-changes ML)
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09:59
<nubae>
about the cdpinger issue, seeing that problem in fatclient hardy... is it an ltspfs issue?
10:00
ogra: thanks, just saw dat.... lets hope it make sugar run with activities this time :D
10:04
<cyberorg>
opensuse build service actually runs host OS in xen to build packges
10:09
<nubae>
suuuper... sugar works on ltsp with 2 commands to install and an xsession change
10:09
cyberorg: did u test the telepathy and collaboration stuff?
10:09
<cyberorg>
nubae, nope, i have no idea how to go about it
10:10
<nubae>
well I can help u with that if u like, I worked on the XS server quite a bit
10:11
its just installing ejabberd and tweaking the client to use telepathy gabble
10:11
I'll see if I can get it working on buntu
10:12
<cyberorg>
nubae, just do a small howto on a wiki/blog somewhere that i can follow :)
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10:21
<nubae>
and Nick Kendall is back...
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10:37
<ogra>
oh man
10:37
ldm is so broken
10:38
typing in a wrong pw gives me the weird ssh messages ?
10:39
erm, and didnt we have a fix that prevented hitting enter with an empty input box ?
10:39
what happened to that ?
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10:40
<ogra>
and why does it sit there for 10 secs telling me there was no resoponse from the server before restarting ?
10:40
phew
10:42
<nubae>
would be nice for ldm to allow u to pick a user from a drop down list
10:43
<ogra>
how would you implement that ?
10:43
where do you get that list ?
10:45
<nubae>
/etc/passwd
10:45
<ogra>
huh ?
10:46
how do you access /etc/passwd on the server ?
10:46
<nubae>
well u'd have to hack something ugly I guess that drops all the users to a file (without passwords) and then read that
10:47
<ogra>
fun for hackers :)
10:47
<cyberorg>
yet another one for ldminfod
10:47
<ogra>
you cant do that in a secure way
10:47
cyberorg, so what exactly is your input field patch supposed to do ?
10:48
<nubae>
well, local apps needs the user list just the same, so do it in the way local apps does it
10:48
<cyberorg>
ogra, it fixes location of input field for us, ours turned up on right hand side of the screen
10:48* ogra really doesnt understand how moving away from a fixed value based on 1/2 logo with towards a danymic value should prevent the jumping
10:48
<nubae>
cyberorg: heh, funny... wonder why
10:48
<ogra>
*width
10:49
cyberorg, but it breaks it for everyone else
10:49
<cyberorg>
nubae, it can't, localapps is done after ssh socket is created
10:49
ogra, didnt know it was upstreamed, i am carrying the patch in my packages
10:50
<nubae>
ok, then use sshkeys and grab it via ssh
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10:50
<cyberorg>
ogra, ldm-trunk is broken for both nubae and me
10:50
<nubae>
very broken
10:51
<ogra>
cyberorg, it works fine in intrepid, what is broken ?
10:51
<nubae>
cycling ldm screen
10:51
<cyberorg>
endless "creating ldm socket.." errors
10:51
<ogra>
btw i'm pretty sure you would have had a clean fix if ou just changed the forced 180px logo size instead of hacking up half the greeter
10:52
<cyberorg>
dont remember the exact error, nubae you remember?
10:52
<ogra>
- if (lw < 180)
10:52
- lw = 180;
10:52
thats the only code you should have touched
10:52
<cyberorg>
ogra, logo we are using is very wide
10:52
<ogra>
gtk_widget_set_size_request(UserPrompt, -1, 0);
10:52
that definately breaks everything for everyone
10:52
<nubae>
I tested it on intrepid a while ago, can try it again though
10:53
<ogra>
cyberorg, right, so just raise the value or drop the check but dont break all elements
10:53
<nubae>
that is installing ldm from ldm-trunk bzr, not the packaged one
10:54
<ogra>
nubae, there is no difference
10:54
ldm 2.0.13 in ubuntu is exactly trunk
10:54
<nubae>
then its been fixed, this was a good 3 weeks ago
10:54
<ogra>
and it works fine here apart from what i mentioned above and the totally broken input field
10:56
<cyberorg>
ogra, i think the first patch sent touched couple of lines only Ryan52 sent "improved" patch because label was not centered
10:57
nubae, i tested ldm 2.0.13_081007 which was broken too
10:57
last week
10:57
<nubae>
well I can try testing that and seeing if its happening for me too
10:58
but if thats the one already in ubuntu...
10:59
<ogra>
the ubuntu one had only one packaging change (to not strip translations) apart from that its 2.0.13
11:02
<cyberorg>
nothing has changed in ldm since 7th, so our issue will still be there
11:02
<ogra>
7th ?
11:02
4th you mean
11:03
2.0.13 was tagged on oct 4th
11:03
<cyberorg>
ogra, i tested snapshot on 7th
11:05* cyberorg goes for dinner
11:05* ogra sighs about wasting a day on that
11:08
<ogra>
yep, reverting that fixes it
11:09
sigh
11:09
so please make sure to *not break* the standard themes if you want to add weird hacks for non stadard stuff first before commiting
11:10* ogra wonders how to uncimmit that upstram now
11:11
<nubae>
why isnt that stuff just in the suse subfolder?
11:12
<ogra>
there is no suse subfolder
11:12
<nubae>
oh
11:12
<ogra>
and suse refuses to go with the themeing that the ui uses atm
11:13
<nubae>
but they could make one no?
11:13
ah right those changes must be made in ldm directly
11:13
<ogra>
which is fine
11:14
but breaking themes for 5 distros to make one work that refuses to go with the standard is just not nice
11:14
<nubae>
heh
11:14
<johnny>
i think it's lame that it can't automatically resize
11:14* ogra is massively upset having to spend a workday on that two weeks before release
11:15* johnny decides that he will never touch gtk theming
11:15
<johnny>
i'll stick with html + css thank you..
11:15
<ogra>
johnny, right, it might be, but breaking it for everyone without even testing is not the thing to do
11:15
<johnny>
i'm saying that it is lame that it was broken because of this
11:15
<ogra>
especially if at least two distros here have a release by end of the month
11:17
<loather>
yeah, fedora is set to be released in about a month
11:18
and i think the new debian hits shelves around then too.
11:18
(or was it already released?)
11:18
<johnny>
no
11:18
they are 200 release critical bugs short
11:18
it might not be til next month or later..
11:19
unless they drop some packags
11:19
<loather>
it's about time debian had a release though
11:19
some of the standard/default packages were *so old*
11:19
<ogra>
loather, fedors should even be earlier, warren told me they release a week before ubuntu (which is due ptc 30th)
11:19
*oct
11:20* johnny eats your release
11:20
<loather>
really? i heard 15 nov. but i could be wrong -- let me double-check
11:20* ogra reverts and pushes
11:20
<johnny>
next motnh is november loather :)
11:21
<loather>
2008-11-25 Fedora 10 final release (General Availability) ah, i was wrong -- even later!
11:21
<ogra>
stgraber, patch or FFe ?
11:22
<johnny>
oh.. for fedora..
11:22
hmm.. i trashed my fedora 9 cd..
11:22
i thought it was gonna be sooner
11:22
oops..
11:22
<loather>
heh, you know how fedora is though
11:22
<ogra>
well, warren said they release before us
11:22
<johnny>
thinking about switching my desktop to fedora for a bit
11:23
<loather>
it'll take about 6 weeks for it to stabilize out
11:23
<ogra>
but he probably mixed up the months
11:23
<nubae>
maybe he means earlier than Jaunty :p
11:23
<johnny>
that way maybe i can learn about how redhat distros work these days
11:23
been a long time..
11:23
<loather>
so even after release i wouldn't install it right away if i wanted a system with all the bugs ironed out :P
11:23
<nubae>
yah, fedora aint to bad lately
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<johnny>
maybe i'll install portage in a prefix if iget lonely
11:24
or bored
11:24
<loather>
7 was great, 8 and 9 have some issues -- 9 especially
11:24
<Lunks>
Anybody has already had experience with booting LTSP fat clients over wireless?
11:24
<johnny>
that sounds like a terrible idea..
11:24
<nubae>
only me Lunks
11:24
<ogra>
10 will likely have more issues, the changes in Xorg were massive
11:24
<johnny>
maybe i'm insane..
11:24
<nubae>
and I believe asmo
11:25
<johnny>
ogra, i'm already running xorg with no config file
11:25
in 1.5
11:25
works well so far :)
11:25
<loather>
ogra: i know, i'm fearing it.
11:25
<ogra>
johnny, and with forced hal-input ?
11:25
<johnny>
ogra, i'm guessing so?
11:25
how can i verify?
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<loather>
forced hal-input? oh dear god.
11:25
<Lunks>
I've found something similar on http://beta.arcig.cz/~eudoxos/eb-linux/, but it looks like it's a little outdated.
11:25
<ogra>
shut down hal, restart X and see if you still can type, move your mouse or swtich consoles :P
11:26
if you can, you dont use hal
11:26
<Lunks>
nubae: haha yeah, you just heard it, right? :>
11:26
<johnny>
ogra, maybe later..
11:26
<ogra>
loather, its cool :)
11:26
<johnny>
is there some other way to know?
11:26
d-bus interfaces?
11:26
<ogra>
lshal and look if your keyboard uses evdev in hal
11:27
loather, but its far from supporting all the devices xorg.conf did
11:27
<nubae>
Lunks: ltsp fat client works with just one command, ltsp-build-client --fatclient <distro> --highfat
11:27
<loather>
heh, *another* regression ;(
11:27
i'm all for new functionality
11:27
but leave the old stuff in place if you want to change it. phase it out later.
11:28
<johnny>
sometimse that's impossible
11:28
<loather>
no, sometimes it's more work.
11:28
not impossible. :)
11:29
<johnny>
just because xorg released, doesn't mean distros have to integrate it either.
11:29
<loather>
i dunno, lately i see a lot of changes to some well-defined, well-known behaviour that's been in place for 15 years
11:29
<johnny>
i think that is a good thing when it comes to x..
11:29
as long as people integrate it responsibily
11:29
or hold off if it isn't ready
11:30
<nubae>
yeah like network manager
11:30
<loather>
well, with redhat driving most of the xorg development, it's no small wonder fedora will get it first :)
11:30
<nubae>
hate the damn thing... uninstalled
11:30
<Lunks>
nubae: I'm just trying to gather as much info I can on ltsp over wifi. ;P
11:30
<johnny>
i love networkmanager
11:30
still using the latest .6 atm tho
11:30
<loather>
networkmanager isn't terrible. it's great for laptops and machines that need to move between physical networks
11:30
<nubae>
right, and for ltsp?
11:31
<loather>
for ltsp? mostly useless.
11:31
added layer of complexity that's simply not needed
11:31
<nubae>
right... but it decides to take over everything, kill dhcp, etc...
11:31
IMHO it should be taken out of ltsp setups
11:32
<ogra>
huh ?
11:32
nm is cool
11:33
the prob is that you have to support all the boneheads that insist on keeping the old distro way of managing devices
11:33
the *fixes* to make it work with that usually break what worked flawless initially
11:34
NM suffered that several releases in ubuntu already
11:34
<johnny>
ogra, i think it was a good idea.. UNTIL nm works at system start
11:34
but it does now :)
11:34
<ogra>
right
11:35
<johnny>
ogra, dealing with old crusty *nix geeks can be painful..
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<nubae>
ogra: there is no reason the thing shouldn't recognise the tried and tested way of ifup thats been in place for years
11:35
<ogra>
right
11:35
<johnny>
they can have their own crusty *nix geeks distro with all their junk in it :)
11:35
<ogra>
nubae, which it does now
11:35
<nubae>
kinda
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<johnny>
nubae, the recent changes in nm wouldmake you happy
11:36
i have the rss feed from svn :)
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<ogra>
nubae, but all the breakage in current NM only come from trying to keep compatibility with that
11:36
<nubae>
as of 2 days ago, I was not happy
11:36
<johnny>
you running from svn?
11:36
<ogra>
if it would just take over everything it would just work
11:36
<nubae>
well, ok, then put a message up when teh system starts and explain how to switch over or something
11:36
<ogra>
thats not how ubuntu works :)
11:37
<nubae>
well, I uninstalled it and am happy again
11:37
<johnny>
nubae,
11:38
<nubae>
I know buntu is going all GUI (no pun intended) but why have 2 things running at once that do the same job?
11:38
<johnny>
what runs at once?
11:38
two things?
11:38
<nubae>
well 2 configs
11:38
<ogra>
nubae, happy again ? wait until your apps are all starting in offline mode :P
11:38
<johnny>
yeah
11:39
<ogra>
the desktop is way to integrated with NM to just remove it
11:39
<nubae>
thats what they were doing _with_ NM in managed mode
11:39
<ogra>
thats why managed mode is off by default :P
11:39
<nubae>
worse.... everything resolved but no internet... that was a mind fuck...
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<loather>
yeah, the move to the whole integrated desktop environment really screws people like me who *are* crusty unix geeks
11:42
i personally can't tolerate gnome or kde for more than a few minutes
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<johnny>
loather, you can use cnetworkmanager
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<ogra>
NM works from commandline with nm-tool
11:45
no need to use gnome or kde
11:45
<loather>
i know. but it requires dbus, hal, and a slew of other dependencies that frankly I don't want to have to install
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(not that with any modern distribution there's any way around it)
11:46
<ogra>
well, you soon wont hve a choice anymore
11:46
<johnny>
nope.. X requires hal and dbus these days
11:46
<ogra>
there is work going on to put the system parts of dbus into the kernel
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with hal-input you need hal to run X
11:47
<johnny>
i set the hal use flag in xorg-server.. so presumably i require hal now
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<loather>
dbus ... into the kernel?
11:57
*sigh*
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<ogra>
why ?
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<jcastro>
ogra: you familiar with https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tuxpaint/+bug/269082
12:07
<ogra>
jcastro, i likely have seen it, let me take a look
12:08* ogra tends to ignore edubuntu bugs since he isnt responsible anymore
12:08
<jcastro>
ogra: yeah I am just hoping to find someone in Debian who can reproduce since she filed a bug with debian but he closed it marking it ubuntu specific.
12:08
<vagrantc>
ogra: i had no problems with 2.0.13 in debian, though i only tested with the ltsp theme.
12:09
<ogra>
vagrantc, intresting, ltsp theme was as jumpy as the ubuntu one for me
12:09
i tried all five ubuntu themes and the ltsp one
12:09
<_UsUrPeR_>
Can anyone point me towards instructions on shutting off ssh encryption in Fedora 9?
12:10
<ogra>
LDM_DIRCETX=True
12:10
like everywhere else
12:10
<_UsUrPeR_>
:D
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<ogra>
*DIRECTX
12:10
vagrantc, can you try to reproduce https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tuxpaint/+bug/269082 on debian ?
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<_UsUrPeR_>
thanks ogra
12:11
<jcastro>
vagrantc: Here is the corresponding debian bug: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=502017
12:11
<ogra>
vagrantc, holger seems a bit dense here
12:11
<jcastro>
yeah I am responding to holger real quick
12:11
<vagrantc>
i can't play around much more today- i'm already late for a work meeting
12:13
<jcastro>
cool, thanks anyway
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<nubae>
jcastro: that bug is annoying indeed
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<nubae>
I dont think its ubuntu-specific
12:25
<jcastro>
nubae: upstream seems to not have an ltsp environment to test in so there's no way to really nail it down unless someone digs in I think
12:25
<nubae>
yeah I know... I'm gonna test it when I get to a school
12:25
and grab as much data as possible
12:33
damn u ejabberd
12:40
<johnny>
?
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<stgraber>
ogra: FFe for what ?
13:46
<ogra>
stgraber, or patch ... for fixing the jumpy input box
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<stgraber>
if that's bug only, you don't even need a FFe for a new version
13:46
(at least that's what slangasek said for ltspfs)
13:46
and what's on the ubuntu wiki IIRC
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<ogra>
oki
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<_UsUrPeR_>
having a problem getting dhcpd working in Fedora 10 Beta. Has anyone had any luck yet?
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<cliebow>
_UsUrPeR_, perhaps paste your dhcpd.conf?
14:45
AT.
14:45
pastebot.ltsp.org
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<_UsUrPeR_>
cliebow: oh crap. I forgot that part :)
15:14
http://pastebin.com/d4a89fc4a
15:14
there we go
15:15
crap
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