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Channel log from 13 July 2007 (all times are UTC)
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| 03:05 | <dave__> Hi there, is there anyone who has gotten X to work on a VMware LTSP client? The server works great with regular clients.
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| 03:06 | <MrMoo> yup, works well
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| 03:11 | <dave__> How did you do it, MrMoo?
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| 03:11 | <MrMoo> dave__, http://developer.novell.com/wiki/index.php/HOWTO:_miru_directory_server_VMware_LTSP_demo
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| 03:12 | an slightly exaggerated example
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| 03:12 | <dave__> Thank you a bunch, man!
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| 03:24 | <multik> hello everyone
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| 03:25 | <dave__> hi multik
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| 03:25 | <multik> I've a small problem. I've installed edubuntu on my laptop (1NIC) and I'd like to connect thin client to it. I'm connecting these 2 over crossover patch. Edubuntu has default config, no changes made to it.
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| 03:25 | Thin client receives IP from edubuntu DHCP server, but complains that TFTP session can't be opened.
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| 03:26 | hi dave__ :)
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| 03:26 | <dave__> Try lsof -i | grep LISTEN to see if tftp is listening :)
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| 03:27 | (as root, of course)
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| 03:27 | <gvy> multik, is the client known to boot off anything?
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| 03:27 | there are lots of broken PXE firmwarez out there
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| 03:27 | <dave__> It receives an ip...
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| 03:27 | ...that should suffice.
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| 03:27 | <multik> lsof -i | grep tftp is not returning anything.
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| 03:27 | <gvy> you should also try -r blksize for tftpd (google for it, described on syslinux site iirc)
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| 03:28 | <multik> client should receive it's image from edubuntu. It's PXE/etherbootable client.
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| 03:28 | <gvy> once seen that and a switch instead of a crossover helping non-booting client
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| 03:28 | (gige server, fast eth client)
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| 03:28 | <dave__> This is what you ought to see: inetd 4816 root 4u IPv4 11709 UDP *:tftp
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| 03:28 | <multik> well I tried with switch. With that config thin client was not even getting an ip.
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| 03:29 | <gvy> ouch
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| 03:29 | <dave__> What does your /etc/inetd.conf look like?
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| 03:29 | <multik> dave__: yes sudo [command] works better.
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| 03:30 | <dave__> Mine has the following line:
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| 03:30 | tftp dgram udp wait root /usr/sbin/in.tftpd /usr/sbin/in.tftpd -s /var/lib/tftpboot
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| 03:32 | <multik> dave__: mine too
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| 03:33 | <dave__> Try /etc/init.d/tftpd-hpa restart
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| 03:33 | Then see if it is listening.
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| 03:33 | (if you are on ubuntu. Names may vary)
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| 03:34 | <multik> restareted tftpd-hpa
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| 03:34 | I'm on edubuntu
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| 03:34 | 7.04
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| 03:35 | ok lsof -i still returns correct process entry
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| 03:35 | <dave__> So tftpd is running?
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| 03:35 | Did you build a client as per the instructions?
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| 03:35 | <multik> it's preconfigured on edubuntu
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| 03:36 | <dave__> I see.
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| 03:36 | <multik> you've to configure it manually on ubuntu and debian.
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| 03:36 | <dave__> I know :(
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| 03:36 | If the tftp service is listening, you can now try to reboot your thin client.
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| 03:39 | <multik> tried it.
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| 03:39 | no go. It gets IP but then says: PXE-E11 ARP timeout (twice) PXE-E38 TFTP cannot open connection
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| 03:39 | very strange.
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| 03:40 | perhaps it is config quiestion?
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| 03:41 | I'm complete newbie in this.
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| 03:41 | <gvy> i'd try running tftpd standalone with -v -v -v -v or the likes
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| 03:41 | it would drop considerably more details to syslog then (at least in.tftpd run via xinetd usually)
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| 03:45 | <multik> gvy: how would you do that?
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| 04:10 | <daya> vagrantc, hi
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| 04:19 | vagrantc, still facing sound problem in debian,
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| 04:25 | <gvy> multik, i don't have that .zsh_history at hand (offline system) but basically, stopped xinetd and started in.tftpd by hand, passing it all of parameters from /etc/xinetd.d/tftpd and a couple more to run in foreground and more verbosely
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| 04:25 | multik, again: are you sure that client does PXE boot?
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| 04:26 | firmware can be broken just enough to pretend successfully it does but never do in fact
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| 04:26 | see http://syslinux.zytor.com/hardware.php#network
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| 04:50 | <multik> gvy: yes client is PXE bootable.
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| 04:50 | Would etherbootable client work out of the box?
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| 04:51 | <gvy> multik, it is *declared* or *verified* by *you* as such?
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| 04:51 | <multik> I have bought a box that has commercial BIOS with PXE boot option on it.
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| 04:52 | I can reflash it with etherboot boot option and free BIOS.
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| 04:57 | <gvy> multik, no. did you ever see it booting pxe/tftp successfully?
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| 04:57 | they'd often write "pxe" but that would remain a label, not a *working* implementation
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| 04:58 | it's so deeply inobvious that became #1 question on my diskless boot troubleshooting list :-(
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| 06:40 | <cliebow> Q-FUNK:ive used a pile of 5260 as clients
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| 06:42 | assuming your amigo meant nubus 4260
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| 06:44 | /4260/5260
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| 06:46 | <Q-FUNK> cliebow: come again?
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| 06:46 | something tells me that you're replying to the wrong guy :)
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| 06:53 | <cliebow> i am a littler behind 8~)\
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| 07:59 | <nepali> ogra, hello
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| 08:00 | ogra, i can see ESPEAKER pointed to client ip after setting SOUND=ture in lts.conf
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| 08:00 | ogra, but still the sound comes in server
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| 08:58 | <jamiejcumbria> any one got real player to work with pulse and or firefox?
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| 09:09 | <ogra> jamiejcumbria, which distro ?
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| 09:09 | (and release)
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| 09:10 | <jamiejcumbria> ogra:Ubuntu Ltsp 5
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| 09:10 | <ogra> which ubuntu release :)
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| 09:12 | <jamiejcumbria> feisty
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| 09:12 | <ogra> (edgy,feisty,gutsy ?)
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| 09:12 | ah
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| 09:13 | do you have sound elsewhere on the clients working ?
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| 09:13 | <jamiejcumbria> Why do you ask
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| 09:13 | yes
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| 09:13 | <ogra> because i changed a lot between edgy and feisty wrt sound ;)
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| 09:13 | it should work if you set realplayer to esd output ...
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| 09:14 | pulse emulates an esd server as well so apps that are forced to use esound can use that
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| 09:14 | <jamiejcumbria> I don't think you can changed the sound to esd on realplayer 10
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| 09:15 | <ogra> well ...
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| 09:15 | there are three options you have ...
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| 09:15 | in the user session there are:
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| 09:16 | 1. a virtual alsa card on top of the pulse connection (teh default for nearly all apps)
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| 09:16 | 2. esound forwarding through ESPEAKER pointing to the esd emu pulse does on the client
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| 09:17 | 3. a native pulse forwarding to the pulse server running on the client
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| 09:17 | if you type "env" in a terminal in your session you should see ESPEAKER and PULSE_SERVER being set
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| 09:18 | (the alsa amu happens through an entry in /home/$USER/.asoundrc.asoundconf)
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| 09:18 | realplayer should support one of these ways at least
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| 09:19 | (i always thougth they defaulted to esd in old versions and to alsa in newer ones)
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| 09:19 | <jamiejcumbria> Thanks
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| 09:19 | <ogra> well, shame on me i didnt test with realplayer yet
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| 09:20 | * ogra is sadly not near any thin clients, i'm travelling atm .... i'll test that next week and write up a reciepe | |
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| 09:22 | <sbalneav> Morning all
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| 09:23 | <ogra> !s
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| 09:23 | <ltspbot`> ogra: "s" is Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 09:23 | <sbalneav> Hey ogra!
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| 09:23 | Still at the sprint?
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| 09:23 | <ogra> yep, last day ... extremly busy with classmate stuff
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| 09:24 | i finaly got my image running from the local disk instead of an usb key :)
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| 09:24 | <ogra> sadly our kernel doesnt like me :(
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| 09:24 | * kaminski-ltsp-br is back | |
| 09:24 | <rjune> ogra: !
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| 09:25 | <ogra> so resume now works, but due to the kernel being nasty and removing all usb devices i have no disk after resume :(
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| 09:25 | so it explodes on the first disk access with heavy IO errors
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| 09:25 | hey rjune
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| 09:25 | <rjune> that doesn't sound happy
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| 09:25 | <ogra> i have abut 3h left efore we stop here
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| 09:26 | rjune, it isnt, but there is not anythng i can do about it i guess
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| 09:26 | still poking on it with my powermanagement expert ad parts of the kernel team
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| 09:28 | <sbalneav> ogra: is mithradir around?
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| 09:29 | <ogra> busy, but around
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| 09:29 | <sbalneav> ok, I sent him an email, I'll just wait for him to have idle cycles.
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| 09:29 | <ogra> (he's only doing mobile stuff recently and dropped all other duties)
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| 09:30 | <jammcq> !s
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| 09:30 | <ltspbot`> jammcq: "s" is Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 09:32 | <sbalneav> Hey jammcq!!
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| 09:38 | <mistik1> Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| 09:38 | <sbalneav> Hey mistik1!
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| 09:38 | <mistik1> morning felas
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| 09:39 | sbalneav: how did that work out for you?
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| 09:40 | <jammcq> hey mistik1
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| 09:40 | <sbalneav> Haven't looked at it since.
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| 09:40 | <mistik1> heh
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| 09:42 | <sbalneav> Actually, an idea popped into my head last night. Ever have one of those ideas that seems so wonderful, so perfect, that you're SURE if you actually try to implement it, you can only screw it up?
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| 09:42 | <sbalneav> This is one of 'em.
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| 09:43 | it involves sunbird calendaring.
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| 09:43 | And a way to share global calendars.
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| 09:43 | <mistik1> Yea, I know the feeling
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| 09:43 | <sbalneav> with a database.
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| 09:43 | and....
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| 09:43 | ... (wait for it) ....
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| 09:44 | A fuse filesystem that makes calendar entries in a database look like an icalendar file :)
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| 09:47 | <mistik1> THis is what you were going to use the tunnel for?
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| 09:49 | <sbalneav> no
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| 09:49 | the tunnel was for something else :)
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| 09:49 | <mistik1> oh
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| 09:49 | I was just having a moment thinking about what would happen to the data if there was a disconnect
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| 09:50 | bad thoughts mistik1
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| 10:20 | <MrChicken> Hello
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| 10:20 | I'm trying to get ltsp running on an ubuntu feisty server
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| 10:21 | when I try to download the ltspfsd i get a message that I need ...
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| 10:21 | ltsp-client package
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| 10:21 | but when ltsp-client is about to get installed
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| 10:22 | it says "do not install this on a regular machine"
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| 10:22 | <sbalneav> yep
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| 10:22 | don't
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| 10:22 | All you need to do is install ltsp-server-standalone
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| 10:22 | <MrChicken> so my question is how do I get local devices enabled?
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| 10:23 | <sbalneav> then do a "sudo ltsp-build-client"
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| 10:23 | <mistik1> Speaking of which I'll be writting a ebuild for those packages today
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| 10:23 | <sbalneav> Followed by a "sudo ltsp-update-kernels"
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| 10:23 | Followed by a "sudo ltsp-update-sshkeys"
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| 10:23 | and voila
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| 10:24 | <MrChicken> Ok... lemme do that
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| 10:24 | btw did the ltspfsd come out for fedora?
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| 10:25 | <sbalneav> No one's packaged it for fedora yet, as far as I know.
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| 10:26 | <MrChicken> and... how can it be donde?
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| 10:26 | cuz I have ltsp running on fedora (and now I'm trying to get it on ubuntu to be able to have local devices)
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| 10:26 | so if you guys guide me
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| 10:26 | <sbalneav> Somebody in the fedora project needs to start working on getting ltsp5 natively working on Fedora
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| 10:26 | <MrChicken> I'll do the dirty work and put it up on the wiki or something
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| 10:26 | <mistik1> sbalneav: I want to get with you sometime on packaging ltspfs
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| 10:27 | <MrChicken> :(
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| 10:28 | <sbalneav> Debian and Ubuntu have native packages, and I know OpenSuSE is actively working on a port.
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| 10:28 | And dberkholz here is working on a gentoo port.
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| 10:28 | mistik1: sure.
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| 10:29 | <MrChicken> Lets say I'd be interested in working a bit on the fedora port... I would need some guidance tho
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| 10:29 | <sbalneav> MrChicken: I know eharrison and warren Togami himself were working on it at one point, but I don't know how far they got.
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| 10:30 | <sbalneav> Maybe ping them, and we're certainly here to help
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| 10:30 | MrChicken: have you ever packaged anything for Fedora officially?
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| 10:30 | <ogra> sbalneav, both -update- commands are run by ltsp-build-cliebt
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| 10:30 | <MrChicken> sbalneav ... nope :(
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| 10:30 | <gvy> MrChicken, well i think we could help a bit
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| 10:30 | <ogra> you really only need https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/LTSPQuickInstall
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| 10:30 | <gvy> mail {mike,led}@altlinux.org in case
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| 10:31 | we've done ltsp5 on alt, sort of
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| 10:31 | <ogra> (yes, ltspfs is installed by default as well)
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| 10:31 | <gvy> http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/IntegratingLtsp too?
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| 10:31 | ogra, btw there's LDM page, care to review? http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LDM
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| 10:31 | <dberkholz> howdy sbalneav
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| 10:32 | <mistik1> guys, Last I heard ltspfs has parts that are installed on both the server and client space. Is this still the case?
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| 10:32 | <dberkholz> hoping to get some stuff together for oscon
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| 10:32 | <mistik1> dberkholz: howdy
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| 10:32 | dberkholz: How far have you gotten so far?
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| 10:33 | <dberkholz> mistik1: same as a few months ago, haven't spent really any time on it
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| 10:33 | been busy writing
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| 10:33 | * MrChicken will brb | |
| 10:33 | <dberkholz> mistik1: seems like a few ltsp people will meet up in a couple weeks, which will be a good opportunity to get some work done
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| 10:33 | <ogra> gvy, you could have kept positive statement from vagrant as well (i think he made one later) it looks like he doesnt like ldm at all thats way :)
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| 10:34 | gvy, thanks for putting that together :)
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| 10:34 | <gvy> ogra, hm, i've tried to gather everything related -- maybe just went afk or missed that
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| 10:34 | <dberkholz> i'm gonna try to leave wednesday night of oscon open for ltsp
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| 10:34 | <gvy> ogra, if you have that log, maybe add that? painting things b/w is rather bad, try to avoid that
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| 10:34 | *i try
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| 10:36 | <sbalneav> mistik1: yeah, the upstream source is one big thing, but it splits into a server side package, and a client side package
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| 10:36 | <ogra> gvy, hmmm, seems i remember wrongly
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| 10:36 | <ogra> you actually quoted 100% exactly
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| 10:38 | <dberkholz> hm, i still need to fix up the ltspfs build system for that
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| 10:39 | <sbalneav> That ldm page needs a total rewrite.
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| 10:40 | <ogra> sbalneav, its a start
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| 10:40 | <sbalneav> I'll put some grey cells to it this weekend
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| 10:41 | <ogra> lets finish ldm2 and then fill it with actual implementation details
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| 10:41 | <sbalneav> right.
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| 10:45 | <gvy> ogra, whoops 8)
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| 10:45 | ogra, let's hope it's temporary 100% :-)
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| 10:45 | <jamiejcumbria> anyone know how to get flash player 9 to use pulse or esd please?
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| 10:46 | <gvy> esddsp?
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| 10:46 | <sbalneav> Man, I will be SO glad when gnash works 100%
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| 10:47 | <ogra> jamiejcumbria, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdubuntuFAQ
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| 10:55 | <jamiejcumbria> orgra: I install flash player through firefox as it promted. I have now installed flashplayer-noefree but know sound still. Is firefox may be still looking at the flash player it installed. As I have set firefoxrc to aoss is this right
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| 10:56 | <ogra> just read the FAQ
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| 10:57 | you shouldnt fiddle around with the settings the package installs
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| 10:57 | err, oh, i have no idea how or if the flashplugin installed throuhg firefox works or what it would break
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| 10:58 | (thats why teher is a package for it, its teasted and proven to work)
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| 11:15 | <K_O-Gnom> ogra: my ltsp is working :-) but without mouse ive got to look where my mouse /dev/ node is .. have you a hint for me? (its a PS2 mouse)
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| 11:17 | <ogra> K_O-Gnom, try adding psaux to /etc/modules in the chroot
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| 11:17 | chroot being /opt/ltsp/i386
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| 11:23 | * gvy is away: ~ | |
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| 11:30 | <bob_too> anyone have experience with hp t5135?
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| 11:33 | <K_O-Gnom> ogra: how can i add that?
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| 11:34 | <ogra> edit /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/modules and add a line reading: psaux
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| 11:34 | :)
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| 11:34 | err
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| 11:35 | that should be psmouse not psaux, sorry
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| 11:35 | <K_O-Gnom> ogra: thats all?
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| 11:35 | <ogra> yes
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| 11:35 | <K_O-Gnom> nice :-)
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| 11:35 | (if it work)
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| 11:35 | <ogra> then reboot the client and check if that mouse works
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| 11:36 | well, actually its supposed to autodetect that, i will have to check why thats not the case
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| 11:36 | <K_O-Gnom> ogra: you remember that im on version 4.2?
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| 11:37 | <ogra> oh
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| 11:38 | well, tats a different thing and i actually have no idea, there is likely some lts.conf entries you need to make
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| 11:38 | <--- does only ltsp5
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| 11:38 | did you look at the wiki ?
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| 11:38 | <K_O-Gnom> ogra: wich?
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| 11:40 | ogra: i only have a file called modules.conf is that that file?
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| 11:41 | <ogra> look at the wiki, i have no idea how that was handled in the old ltsp ....
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| 11:42 | <K_O-Gnom> can i find the wiki on ltsp.org?
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| 11:42 | <ogra> yes
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| 11:42 | <K_O-Gnom> ok i will look there thanks
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| 12:00 | <vagrantc> joebaker: did you try and catch me the other day ?
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| 12:02 | <joebaker> I think so vagrantc, but at the moment I cannot recall why. I'm courious though about seeing a sample of the ldmswapd.conf file.
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| 12:03 | <vagrantc> oh, there's not much to it
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| 12:05 | joebaker: i presume you mean nbdswapd.conf
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| 12:05 | <joebaker> I've seen some "Segmentation Fault" error messages when watching
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| 12:05 | the LTSP boot process. It could be hardware problems. Specifically
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| 12:05 | there's this box who's motherboard has an onboard NIC which I couldn't
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| 12:05 | disable in the bios and the Etherboot project doesn't have a driver for it
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| 12:05 | (that I can find yet) so I put another NIC into it.
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| 12:07 | <vagrantc> regarding nbdswapd.conf, you can put any of the variables used in nbdswapd ... i.e. SIZE, RUN_MKSWAP, SWAPDIR, SWAP, NBD_SERVER_OPTS
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| 12:07 | <K_O-Gnom> ogra: hmmm i tried the PS/2 Wheel mouse part (caution german version) here http://ltsp.mirrors.tds.net/pub/ltsp/docs/ltsp-4.1-de.html#AEN1877
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| 12:07 | <joebaker> --- Yes... nbdswapd.conf. I seem to have one working fine. Just tested a file with the SIZE=64.
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| 12:08 | It worked fine.
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| 12:08 | <vagrantc> joebaker: as far as the segfaults ...
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| 12:08 | joebaker: if you could get more specific about what exactly it says, maybe could have some idea what it's about
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| 12:09 | <joebaker> vagrantc: I'm guessing the segfaults are somehow related to the dual nic issue combined with swapfile usage. It's a wierd issue that I don't think we should get too distracted with.
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| 12:10 | * vagrantc doesn't like guessing | |
| 12:11 | <vagrantc> joebaker: which version of the ltsp packages are you using, and on which version of debian ?
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| 12:12 | <K_O-Gnom> dberkholz: ping?
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| 12:12 | <joebaker> Ubuntu Feisty 7.04 LTSP 5 (from Ubutnu) Hacked to use XDMCP instead of LDM.
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| 12:12 | <dberkholz> K_O-Gnom: pong
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| 12:13 | <ogra> K_O-Gnom, that should be about rigth i guess (even though its 4.1)
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| 12:13 | <K_O-Gnom> dberkholz: did you know how i can get my ps2 mouse working on my gentoo ltsp client? (i tried the howto on http://ltsp.mirrors.tds.net/pub/ltsp/docs/ltsp-4.1-de.html#AEN1877 but it dont help i tried too cat /dev/psaux or /dev/input/mice but no reaction ..
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| 12:14 | <dberkholz> does ltsp 4.x do local audio?
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| 12:14 | * ogra leaves now for the "canonical office distro sprind ending" party | |
| 12:14 | <dberkholz> K_O-Gnom: check out the gentoo ltsp guide, i don't do ltsp4 so i can't help you
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| 12:14 | <ogra> *sprint
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| 12:14 | <K_O-Gnom> dberkholz: wich guide?
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| 12:15 | <dberkholz> K_O-Gnom: gentoo.org docs, it's somewhere on there.
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| 12:15 | <ogra> vagrantc, its a shame i cant come to the freegeek thing ... move it a day !
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| 12:15 | <vagrantc> ogra: pfft.
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| 12:15 | <dberkholz> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/ltsp.xml looks good
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| 12:15 | is there a google bot in here?
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| 12:15 | <joebaker> vagrantc: do you want me to send you the dmesg output from the box in question?
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| 12:15 | <ogra> dberkholz, nope
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| 12:15 | <vagrantc> joebaker: sure, paste it to the pastebot
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| 12:15 | !pastebot
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| 12:15 | <ltspbot`> vagrantc: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. A link to the content will be pasted in the channel.
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| 12:22 | <K_O-Gnom> dberkholz: oh this guide there iss written to load usb-uhci but i get a failure then ..
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| 12:22 | <joebaker> vagrantc: I'll try to get back on the issue in a couple hours. It's lunch time and I need to go cuddle up with my Python book and learn more about coding.
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| 12:23 | <dberkholz> K_O-Gnom: i'm sorry, i can't really help you with ltsp 4.
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| 12:23 | the guy who did that in gentoo retired
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| 12:24 | <K_O-Gnom> dberkholz: damn :-(
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| 12:26 | <K_O-Gnom> is here anybody who has an idea for my mouse problem?
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| 12:35 | <K_O-Gnom> hmm ok the usb mouse workes ... but the ps2 mouse not .. :-(
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| 13:15 | <Q-FUNK> is there any way to make lrsp-build-client retry fetching a package it missed because of a connection timeout, rather than completely fail?
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| 13:18 | <K_O-Gnom> lol die neue SG staffel iss zu genial ..
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| 13:18 | shit wron chan
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| 13:23 | <rhombus> My LTSP client loads and runs the kernel, then the kubuntu splash screen. It gets about 1/5 of the way on the progress bar, then hangs, and the screen goes blank
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| 13:24 | I cannot even go to the console with CTRL-ALT-F1
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| 13:27 | <K_O-Gnom> crap i configured my X and Gnome for german language and now my client restarts every time when the X starts
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| 13:33 | <ogra> K_O-Gnom, is sie ?
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| 13:34 | <K_O-Gnom> ogra: ja :)
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| 13:34 | * ogra kriegt nur ZDF im hotel | |
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| 13:35 | <jamiejcumbria> Any one know how to get flash player 9 work with pulse audio. When the sound is running pulse audio volume control shows several sources but no sound.
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| 13:35 | <K_O-Gnom> ogra: ich krieg kein fernsehn in seim zimmer
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| 13:36 | <ogra> jamiejcumbria, did you install libflashsupport as the howto advises ?
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| 13:39 | <jamiejcumbria> no i missed that. Opps I`m just installing now
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| 13:40 | <K_O-Gnom> hmm ive got to test if i can increase my resolution .. (atm i only can go to 1024x768 pixels)
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| 13:40 | <Gadi> rhombus: does it work if you turn off the splash? (remove splash from /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default)
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| 13:40 | <shale> howdy!
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| 13:41 | is anyone familiar with this script? http://www.mail-archive.com/ltsp-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net/msg23599/rdesktop and if so can you tell me if it works or is necessary with LTSP5?
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| 13:42 | <rhombus> Gadi: I tried removing that, but the splash screen still appears.
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| 13:43 | <Gadi> rhombus: you removed the word "splash"?
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| 13:43 | <rhombus> Gadi: Now I have deleted /opt/ltsp/ and re-run sudo ltsp-build-client
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| 13:43 | <sbalneav> shale: Well, for starters it will only work if your password is "pepper"
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| 13:43 | <rhombus> Gadi: yes
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| 13:43 | <Gadi> thats impossible
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| 13:43 | <rhombus> Gadi: Now that I have rebuilt the client, I am going to try removing the word 'splash' again
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| 13:43 | Gadi: Perhaps I removed it from the wrong file
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| 13:43 | <sbalneav> rhombus: Were you and I talking last night?
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| 13:44 | <rhombus> sbalneav: no, though I'm sure it was a nice conversation :)
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| 13:44 | <jamiejcumbria> ogra:thanks it now works
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| 13:44 | <Gadi> rhombus: btw, what kind of client is it?
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| 13:44 | <sbalneav> I had someone else who tried to remove "splash" and it still kept displaying it.
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| 13:44 | <vagrantc> Gadi: i almost merged your screen scripts branch the other day :)
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| 13:44 | <rhombus> Gadi: A Wyse S50
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| 13:44 | <Gadi> vagrantc: heh, finally - now that its largely obsolete
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| 13:45 | <vagrantc> Gadi: heh
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| 13:45 | <rhombus> Gadi: Okay, I edited the wrong file
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| 13:45 | <vagrantc> Gadi: well, people keep asking about the rdesktop scripts, so i figured i should at least pull that
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| 13:45 | <shale> sbalneav: that last line is just for vnc.
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| 13:45 | do you know if the script is designed/should work with ltsp5?
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| 13:45 | or if its even necessry
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| 13:45 | <sbalneav> No idea
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| 13:45 | <rhombus> Gadi: I edited /opt/ltsp/i386/boot/pxelinux.cfg/default
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| 13:45 | <sbalneav> Why don't you try it and see?
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| 13:45 | <Gadi> shale: it prolly wont work without modification
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| 13:46 | <shale> i am, and have been
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| 13:46 | <Gadi> there's no build_x4_cfg in ltsp5 ;)
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| 13:46 | <shale> but am looking for confirmation
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| 13:47 | <shale> thank you Gadi... just want to know if i'm barking up the wrong tree or not :)
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| 13:47 | <sbalneav> Yeah, looking at it more closely, no it wont work.
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| 13:47 | Gadi: has anyone written an rdesktop script for ltsp5 yet?
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| 13:48 | <shale> when i simply add SCREEN_02=rdesktop to lts.conf i get SCREEN_SCRIPT: rdesktop not found... so I figure i'm missing something.
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| 13:48 | <Gadi> sbalneav: me, once upon a time - but vagrantc is only now merging it ;P
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| 13:48 | <shale> if i could get this to work, i have a dozen schools here in Alaska that will looove ltsp :)
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| 13:48 | <Gadi> it was part of my rewrite of the screen scripts
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| 13:48 | shale: it is not hard to implement
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| 13:49 | since you dont need any of the x configuration stuff
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| 13:49 | <sbalneav> shale: Why not just log them into the regular desktop, then have them launch rdesktop from there
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| 13:49 | <shale> Gadi: can you provide any tips?
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| 13:49 | <Gadi> all you need is to execute rdesktop rfom xinit
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| 13:49 | or do as sbalneav says
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| 13:49 | <shale> sbalneav: they need it to go to the winblows login screen automatically
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| 13:49 | <Gadi> and run rdesktop from the server
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| 13:49 | <rhombus> Gadi: Okay -- I removed 'quiet' and 'splash' from default, and now it works
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| 13:49 | <Gadi> set up a session on the server to do that
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| 13:50 | <sbalneav> Gadi++
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| 13:50 | <Gadi> rhombus: does the Wyse use a geode chipset?
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| 13:50 | <rhombus> Gadi: yes
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| 13:50 | <Gadi> yeah, I have a similar issue on a geode here
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| 13:50 | usplash doesnt like it
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| 13:50 | <rhombus> Gadi: Hmn... I see.
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| 13:50 | <Gadi> but, it seems Im the only one
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| 13:50 | guess not
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| 13:50 | :)
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| 13:50 | <rhombus> Gadi: okay, well, it's just eye candy, so I can live without it
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| 13:51 | Gadi: other than that it works beautifully
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| 13:51 | * Gadi needs to get ogra a thin client, and then it'll get fixed :D | |
| 13:51 | <rhombus> Gadi: Who is ogra? Your hardware tester?
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| 13:51 | * ogra is drunk, sitting in the canonical office at the party :) | |
| 13:51 | <dberkholz> ogra: didn't take long to get drunk..
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| 13:51 | * rhombus is wondering who ogra is. | |
| 13:52 | <ogra> dberkholz, well, 7 beers atm :)
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| 13:52 | <Gadi> ogra is my drunk link to the universe (well, really to main ;) )
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| 13:52 | <ogra> heh
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| 13:52 | <dberkholz> ogra: was referring to time. you only left for there an hour and a half ago
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| 13:52 | * ogra is enjoying the view and angry that he has to et down 27 floors for a cigarette now | |
| 13:52 | <rhombus> Gadi: It boots great now, in high res -- how can I get it to run at something higher than 60 Hz?
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| 13:53 | <ogra> dberkholz, well, the whole ubuntu dev crowd worked their ass off this week, its well deserved that we get drunk in the end ;)
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| 13:53 | <Gadi> rhombus: X_VERTREFRESH and X_HORZSYNC
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| 13:53 | <rhombus> Gadi: Damn -- I had those in there and deleted them because I thought it might be the cause of the hangs :P
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| 13:53 | <shale> i hope this isn't too newbish of a question, but can someone point me at how to use xinit to launch something?
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| 13:54 | <Gadi> rhombus: and, my guess is it is using vesa for the driver. you won't have accelerated graphics unless you get the amd driver in the chroot
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| 13:54 | <ogra> Gadi, i have reintroduced X_MODE ;) i'l upload that on monday
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| 13:54 | <Gadi> ogra: I see it in gutsy
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| 13:54 | <dberkholz> ogra: i'm all for work hard, play hard
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| 13:54 | <ogra> its not in yet
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| 13:54 | dberkholz, yeah
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| 13:54 | <Gadi> thats weirs
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| 13:54 | I see it in the code
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| 13:54 | <rhombus> Gadi: Thanks for the tip. I just check the X log to find out what it's loading, correct?
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| 13:54 | <ogra> dberkholz, lets have a beer at OSCON ;)
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| 13:54 | or five or so :)
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| 13:55 | <dberkholz> ogra: sounds good.
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| 13:55 | <ogra> dberkholz, btw i didnt leave, its the same room :)
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| 13:55 | <ogra> (one complete floor)
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| 13:55 | <Gadi> rhombus: on the client, yes
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| 13:56 | <rhombus> Gadi: right.
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| 13:58 | <Gadi> ogra: so, I know ur drunk, but I see a preseed line for X_MODE in the gutsy ltsp-client-setup
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| 13:58 | <ogra> we dont use any preseeding anymore
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| 13:58 | thats for debian
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| 13:59 | and old
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| 13:59 | <Gadi> no preseeding?
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| 13:59 | <ogra> the new X config is using Xorg --configure and sed to change/add values
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| 13:59 | <rhombus> Gadi: can I use dselect in the client chroot?
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| 13:59 | <ogra> there is no need for preseeding anymore
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| 13:59 | <vagrantc> he wrote that when he wasn't drunk, too
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| 13:59 | <Gadi> ogra: ah
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| 14:00 | does the old code work?
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| 14:00 | <vagrantc> on debian
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| 14:00 | <Gadi> or no, because there's no dpkg info for preseeding X_MODE
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| 14:00 | ah
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| 14:00 | <ogra> Gadi, i didnt drop it yet, we can add an option to force the old behavior
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| 14:01 | X_MODE is ignored by the ubuntu X package ... in normal installs it breaks more than it helps
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| 14:01 | <Gadi> no, its just good to know, because i am working on a project right now that I used the gutsy chroot as a basis for ;)
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| 14:02 | <ogra> ah
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| 14:02 | i think its in the bzr branch already
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| 14:02 | just not packaged yet
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| 14:02 | <Gadi> I will make a call to xrandr after X loads, for now
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| 14:02 | :)
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| 14:02 | or something
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| 14:02 | <ogra> revision 385 to 386 in https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ltsp/gutsy-ltsp
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| 14:03 | http://codebrowse.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ltsp/gutsy-ltsp/revision/ogra%40ubuntu.com-20070709151737-1o1kndd0or2ktdg4?start_revid=ogra%40ubuntu.com-20070709151737-1o1kndd0or2ktdg4
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| 14:03 | wow, my changelog grammar sucks
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| 14:03 | <Gadi> is it me, or are you faster when ur drunk?
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| 14:03 | :)
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| 14:03 | <ogra> heh, might be
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| 14:04 | * ogra gets another beer ... | |
| 14:04 | <rhombus> Gadi: Does the amd driver have another name? I don't see it here
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| 14:04 | <Gadi> rhombus: you need to add the universe repo to the chroot
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| 14:04 | and update
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| 14:04 | its in universe
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| 14:04 | xserver-xorg-video-amd
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| 14:06 | <rhombus> Gadi: okay -- having never done this before... how do I add the universe repository to the chroot? I am a Debian/Ubuntu noob
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| 14:06 | <Gadi> sudo (your editor of choice) /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/apt/sources.list
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| 14:06 | add universe to the end of the first line
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| 14:06 | save
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| 14:07 | <rhombus> Gadi: I can do that if I'm already in the chroot, right?
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| 14:07 | <Gadi> sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 apt-get update
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| 14:07 | <Q-FUNK> any 'git' guru here? :)
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| 14:07 | <Gadi> ah, sure
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| 14:07 | in the chroot just:
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| 14:07 | vi /etc/apt/sources.list
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| 14:07 | (change)
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| 14:07 | apt-get update
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| 14:07 | apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-amd
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| 14:07 | <rhombus> wa-chung
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| 14:08 | Gadi: thanks... in progress
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| 14:08 | <Gadi> np
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| 14:08 | then, you need to add:
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| 14:08 | XSERVER=amd
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| 14:08 | to lts.conf
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| 14:08 | and possibly:
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| 14:08 | XORG_SYNC_RANGES=Y
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| 14:08 | too
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| 14:08 | <rhombus> When I have some time, perhaps in the fall, I'd like to help update the LTSP documentation
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| 14:09 | <Gadi> (I have found the driver to not get all resolutions unless the timings are explicitly in the xorg.conf)
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| 14:09 | (which is what the latter statement does)
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| 14:09 | <rhombus> because I hate having to bother people
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| 14:09 | Gadi: thanks!
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| 14:09 | <Gadi> np
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| 14:09 | speaking of which, ogra: does Xorg --configure insert the timings by default?
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| 14:10 | * K_O-Gnom is eating nut corners :-) | |
| 14:13 | <rhombus> Do I need both X_VERT_REFRESH and X_HORZSYNC? I'm being lazy. I don't know what the HORZSYNC range is.
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| 14:15 | <Gadi> 1. X_VERTREFRESH
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| 14:15 | 2. I believe for ubuntu you do, but you can try to guess - if its an LCD, it prolly wont explode
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| 14:15 | :)
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| 14:16 | try: 30-80
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| 14:16 | or, boot the client, and run ddcprobe at the prompt
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| 14:16 | :)
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| 14:17 | so many options for the lazy amongst us
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| 14:18 | <K_O-Gnom> ogra: have you ever seen a goa'uld fighting with anoter goa'uld?
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| 14:18 | <Gadi> bbiab
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| 14:18 | <K_O-Gnom> ogra: with their hands not with weapons ..
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| 14:18 | (in prison)
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| 14:19 | <rhombus> Gadi: thanks -- I'll try ddcprobe. I do that from the CTRL-ALT-F1 local console, correct?
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| 14:27 | <K_O-Gnom> crap ... my client restarts first some times befor he loads the X stable ..
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| 14:30 | <rhombus> Gadi: When I try to invoke "shutdown" from the login screen, the S50 hangs. Reboot works, however.
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| 14:38 | <zodman> hi there
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| 14:38 | im need a suggest from a desktop software for a p3 server with 512 ram + 10 clients
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| 14:38 | icewm ?
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| 14:40 | <ogra> Gadi, for *some* setups
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| 14:40 | K_O-Gnom, nope, i actually didnt :)
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| 14:40 | ill see my first episode on wed.
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| 14:41 | <K_O-Gnom> ogra: :-) did you record it?
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| 14:46 | * kaminski-ltsp-br is back | |
| 14:47 | <K_O-Gnom> is it normal that when i start a shell with X_SCREEN_XX = "shell" that its with root rights? and can the user when he/she is using tat shell change something in the client OS (/opt/ltsp/i386) or the server?
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| 14:51 | <ogra> K_O-Gnom, i'll see the repetition in one year ;)
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| 14:51 | * ogra now goes for something to eat | |
| 14:52 | <ogra> my flight goes at 8 so i wont be online for aday or so ...
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| 14:52 | bye
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| 14:52 | <K_O-Gnom> ogra: guten appetit (dont know how to write in english :-)
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| 15:07 | <rjune> Gadi !
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| 15:10 | <sbalneav> Hey rjune
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| 15:13 | <rjune> sbalneav: howdy
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| 15:24 | <shale> can someone point me at how to use xinit to launch something when the thin client loads??
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| 15:25 | <sbalneav> shale: How's your scripting ability?
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| 15:29 | <sbalneav> http://codebrowse.launchpad.net/~gideon/ltsp/ltsp-gadi-screenscripts/annotate/gadi%40ltsp.org-20061107190605-fc300ba24d363b91?file_id=rdesktop-20061107190418-f180xtxx9movmujg-1
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| 15:29 | <shale> sbalneav mine is fairly crappy but i have a perl programmer on my staff
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| 15:30 | <sbalneav> http://codebrowse.launchpad.net/~gideon/ltsp/ltsp-gadi-screenscripts/annotate/gadi%40ltsp.org-20061107190605-fc300ba24d363b91?file_id=rdesktop.wrapper-20061107190406-z1eqxc7ufrb13t0j-1
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| 15:30 | Those two bits of code are gadi's ltsp5 rdesktop screen scripts.
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| 15:30 | <shale> ok... cool!
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| 15:30 | can you tell me where to put them?
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| 15:31 | <sbalneav> the rdesktop script will need to go in /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/lib/ltsp/screen.d
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| 15:31 | the rdesktop.wrapper will need to go in /usr/bin
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| 15:31 | err
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| 15:31 | /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/bin
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| 15:31 | YMMV
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| 15:32 | <shale> YMMV ?
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| 15:32 | <sbalneav> Your Mileage May Vary
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| 15:33 | <shale> ahh :)
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| 15:33 | <shale> trying them now
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| 15:33 | <sbalneav> Internet speak for "This may work as is, or you may have to fiddle with it, or it may not work at all"
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| 15:33 | <shale> roger that
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| 15:33 | it's at least *something* which is better than what i've been trying ;)
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| 15:34 | <K_O-Gnom> have good night folks
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| 15:38 | <shale> i get "can't open usr/lib/ltsp/setupx
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| 15:38 | but "locate setupx" yields nada on the server
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| 15:39 | <sbalneav> You wont need that, just comment it out.
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| 15:39 | X setup's been done already.
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| 15:40 | <shale> right
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| 15:41 | <shale> ok getting closer :)
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| 15:42 | now i get "bad display name, exiting"
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| 15:43 | <vagrantc> well, the setupx stuff handled some things
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| 15:43 | that is still needed
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| 15:43 | that's why i haven't merged the patch yet
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| 15:44 | <shale> setupx isn't on my system... is it a separate program?
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| 15:44 | i didn't see it in apt-cache search
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| 15:45 | <vagrantc> need to grab it from gadi's screenscripts branch
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| 15:45 | <shale> ahh ok
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| 15:46 | <vagrantc> the tty parsing stuff is still needed
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| 15:46 | just not the x configuration stuff
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| 15:46 | <shale> do you know where i should put setupx on the server?
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| 15:47 | <vagrantc> wherever the rdesktop script looks for it
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| 15:47 | <shale> ah
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| 15:47 | <vagrantc> well, relative to /opt/ltsp/i386
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| 15:47 | <shale> thanks
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| 15:47 | (i feel like such a dumbass) :)
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| 15:47 | this is what happens when the sysadmin is on his honeymoon
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| 15:47 | Mr. Yacko has to figure stuff out :)
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| 15:53 | <sbalneav> Oh, was setupx still doing stuff? We should just yank that out, and put it in the rdesktop script.
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| 15:54 | <vagrantc> that's one way to go
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| 15:54 | <shale> ok now i get "fatal server error: unrecognized option: X"
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| 15:55 | but i'm not sure where to look for the errant option
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| 15:59 | /opt/ltsp/i386/var/log/syslog is empty
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| 16:00 | same with dmesg
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| 16:00 | where do all these errors go?
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| 16:02 | <shale> /var/log/syslog is showing some stuff, but not the xinit errors
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| 16:04 | <ltsppbot> "sbalneav" pasted "test rdesktop script" (60 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/213
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| 16:04 | <sbalneav> shale: try that
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| 16:06 | <shale> wow thank you, i will
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| 16:06 | should that replace my current /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/lib/ltsp/screen.d/rdesktop ?
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| 16:08 | <sbalneav> yep
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| 16:08 | I have no idea if it will work.
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| 16:09 | <shale> hehe ok well i'll let you know shortly
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| 16:10 | well... it gets me further than anything else has... i get the gray background with the big X cursor
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| 16:10 | but the code is caught in some zany loop and i'm not sure where to look for error
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| 16:10 | <sbalneav> Do you have rdesktop installed in the chroot?
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| 16:10 | chroot /optl/ltsp/i386
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| 16:11 | dpkg -l | grep rdesktop
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| 16:11 | <shale> root@ltspe:/# dpkg -l | grep rdesktop
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| 16:11 | ii rdesktop 1.5.0-1build1 RDP client for Windows NT/2000 Terminal Serv
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| 16:11 | oops sorry
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| 16:11 | yes its installed in the chroot
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| 16:12 | <sbalneav> While you're in there
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| 16:12 | ls -la /usr/bin/rdesktop.wrapper
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| 16:12 | <shale> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 56 2007-07-13 20:32 /usr/bin/rdesktop.wrapper
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| 16:13 | <sbalneav> which rdesktop
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| 16:14 | <shale> how do you mean?
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| 16:14 | <sbalneav> type the command
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| 16:14 | which rdesktop
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| 16:14 | <shale> /usr/bin/rdesktop
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| 16:14 | <sbalneav> ok
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| 16:15 | Well, dunno.
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| 16:15 | I'd have to look at it closer, as I don't have a windows server to test against.
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| 16:15 | <shale> well, you've helped us greatly anyway
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| 16:16 | when my perl programmer gets back from lunch i'll go over this with him
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| 16:16 | <sbalneav> have your script guy poke at it.
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| 16:16 | <shale> isn't there a place i can look at the logs for this stuff?
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| 16:16 | <shale> or tell ltsp to write a log somewhere?
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| 16:16 | <sbalneav> It does
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| 16:16 | /var/log/
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| 16:17 | on the client
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| 16:17 | <shale> ooo
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| 16:17 | on the client
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| 16:17 | hrm
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| 16:17 | <sbalneav> but you won't see any output from any errors here, only the xorg output.
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| 16:17 | and if you're getting a grey screen, then that won't be of much help to you, as X is starting.
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| 16:18 | Something isn't firing up with rdesktop.
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| 16:18 | <shale> yah
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| 16:19 | how long with that pastebin webpage be alive?
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| 16:21 | <vagrantc> maybe forever
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| 16:22 | <shale> ok (adding resources to our internal wiki)
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| 16:22 | i'm surprised getting rdesktop w/ ltsp5 isn't easier... seems lots of folks would use this.
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| 16:23 | my school districts have a ton of crappy ole puders but also a bunch of Windows-only software they need to use.
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| 16:23 | so, it seems like a perfect match
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| 16:23 | my sysadmin had it working with ltsp4.2, but i'm Mr. Latest Greatest i guess
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| 16:29 | <rcy> how can I get xdm to show me a list of hosts offering remote logins via XDMCP? gdm has menus where I can find the hosts, but I dont want to use that in this case.
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| 16:29 | <moquist> whiprush: hey
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| 16:30 | <sbalneav> xdm?
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| 16:30 | <perseu> It is possible to update Xorg 6.9 to Xorg 7.1 in Ltsp 4.2 ?
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| 16:30 | <sbalneav> As in, really, really old xdm?
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| 16:30 | perseu: No one's bothered.
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| 16:31 | Most development's focusing on LTSP5
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| 16:31 | <perseu> sbalneav: I need it to use newer graphics card of my thinclients
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| 16:32 | <rcy> sbalneav: yes, as in the really really old xdm that doesnt have a bazillion dependancies to pull in if i want to add the gdm package to my openbsd box.
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| 16:32 | <sbalneav> rcy: I don't think so.
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| 16:33 | Running openbsd? Security buff?
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| 16:33 | <jammcq> perseu: the problem with upgrading Xorg from 6.9 to 7.1 is that 6.9 was the last 'Monolithic' build. 7.1 is a Modular build. they've completely redone the entire build process of Xorg
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| 16:33 | <rcy> I have several different systems here
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| 16:33 | <jammcq> and shoe-horning that into the LBE would be a huge task
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| 16:34 | <rcy> sbalneav: you don't think so what, exactly?
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| 16:34 | <perseu> sbalneav: LBE from CVS has Xorg 7 ?
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| 16:34 | <jammcq> perseu: no, it has 6.9
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| 16:34 | <sbalneav> rcy: I don't think there's a way to get it to display a list of hosts.
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| 16:35 | <rcy> sbalneav: hmm, but there is a way to still do a remote login isnt there?
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| 16:35 | <perseu> jammcq: hummm...
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| 16:35 | <sbalneav> rcy: Well, xdm is what gives you the remote login.
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| 16:36 | <perseu> jammcq: it is possible to include in LBE an module for newer graphic cards ?
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| 16:36 | <vagrantc> possible yes. easy, no.
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| 16:36 | <rcy> there is a /etc/X11/xdm/chooser binary... im not clear what that does
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| 16:36 | <jammcq> perseu: only if that module source code works with Xorg 6.9
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| 16:36 | <vagrantc> LBE is no longer being worked on, really.
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| 16:37 | <perseu> jammcq, vagrantc: for nVidia GForce 6100 onboard chipset
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| 16:37 | <sbalneav> rcy: I haven't used xdm for 7 years or so, so you'd have to fool around with it.
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| 16:38 | <vagrantc> rcy: can you just configure a chooser ?
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| 16:39 | <perseu> pci_scan returned nVidia Corporation unknown chipset (0x03d0)
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| 16:40 | <rcy> sbalneav: vagrantc: yeah, ive been reading the manpages, and thrashing around, it seeming more complex than it ought to be. was hoping i could cheat and get some easy help here :) ill keep poking around.
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| 16:41 | * moquist sends this conversation to his boss as further evidence that Edubuntu is right for schools at this point, and K12LTSP is not what we want to run until Fall 2008. | |
| 16:41 | efra_away is now known as efra | |
| 16:43 | <sbalneav> rcy: If you're concerned about security, which I assume you must be as you're running openbsd, keep in mind that any of the X dms ([xkg]dm) pass passwords over the network in cleartext.
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| 16:43 | <rcy> sbalneav: there are other reasons to run openbsd than security
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| 16:43 | <jammcq> moquist: what happens in the fall of 2008 ?
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| 16:43 | <rcy> but thats good to know.
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| 16:44 | <moquist> jammcq: the school year after the one we're prepping for now
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| 16:44 | jammcq: we're making a roadmap decision now that we'll have to live with until next year; that's all I mean
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| 16:44 | jammcq: fortunately, I think Edubuntu has won. :-D
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| 16:45 | I'm excited to see the squashfs stuff in Gutsy.
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| 16:45 | * moquist should try it out now | |
| 16:45 | <jammcq> i'm thinking Gutsy is the release we've all been waiting for
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| 16:46 | <moquist> Yeah, I'm wondering about the wisdom of rolling out Feisty Edubuntu everywhere...maybe we'll do that, and then carefully consider a mid-year upgrade
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| 16:47 | <whiprush> moquist: what's up
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| 16:47 | <perseu> I have installed ltsp 5 on Bedian Etch and no success
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| 16:48 | the clients only gets a bash shell login
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| 16:48 | no graphic screen
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| 16:48 | <vagrantc> perseu: how did you install it ?
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| 16:48 | * vagrantc is assuming Debian | |
| 16:49 | <perseu> vagrantc: following a link in the ltsp wiki (sorry, Debian)
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| 16:49 | <vagrantc> perseu: could you tell me which page it was ?
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| 16:50 | <perseu> vagrantc: http://wiki.debian.org/LTSP/Howto
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| 16:50 | <vagrantc> ok.
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| 16:50 | <shale> perseau: did you also install a gui?
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| 16:50 | <perseu> vagrantc: yes, kde
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| 16:50 | vagrantc: my server is OK
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| 16:51 | <vagrantc> perseu: dpkg -l ltsp* ; dpkg --root=/opt/ltsp/i386 -l ltsp*
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| 16:51 | <perseu> vagrantc: sorry, I am at home now
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| 16:52 | vagrantc: what I must get from that ?
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| 16:52 | <vagrantc> ok, well, when you're at the machine you're trying to fix, come back on irc and we can try and help.
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| 16:53 | <perseu> vagrantc: the v.5 was not more on the machine
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| 16:54 | <vagrantc> perseu: i don't understand you ... ?
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| 16:54 | <perseu> vagrantc: I get it off for v 4.2
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| 16:55 | vagrantc: I was deinstalled version 5 because it didnt worked for me
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| 16:55 | <vagrantc> ah.
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| 16:55 | well, if you'd like to try again, come back when you're at the machine and we can try and help.
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| 16:56 | <perseu> vagrantc: OK, thanks
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| 17:11 | <TTT_Travis> I need to run my LTSP local, I added the user to the group video on my host computer chrooted to /opt/ltsp/i386 and then booted my network client
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| 17:11 | I can start X as root
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| 17:12 | but when I start as my other use I get
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| 17:12 | X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting
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| 17:27 | nevermind go it
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| 17:28 | next question
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| 17:28 | I booted off NFS - when I try to write a file or whatever in my vterm is says readonly filesystem if I change my nfs settings on the host will I be able to write to the filesystem?
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| 17:36 | <vagrantc> TTT_Travis: you'll want to use unionfs or something like that
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| 17:48 | <TTT_Travis> vagrantc but is there a way to use NFS?
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| 17:48 | <TTT_Travis> because I think it would work fine for this purpose, the only time anything gets written is every few minutes
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| 17:48 | not like frequent read/writes
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| 17:49 | I changed my /etc/exports
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| 17:49 | /opt/ltsp *(rw,no_root_squash,async)
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| 17:49 | <TTT_Travis> and restarted nfs but I still can't write
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| 17:49 | <vagrantc> TTT_Travis: i wouldn't recommend it.
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| 17:50 | <TTT_Travis> vagrantc why is that?
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| 17:50 | <vagrantc> because i don't want to support it :P
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| 17:50 | <TTT_Travis> is there a reason? like will things not work right or something?
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| 17:50 | <vagrantc> yeah, that's the main thing.
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| 17:51 | it's just going to be a headache.
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| 17:51 | <TTT_Travis> ok I guess I will just make mountpoints for the stuff I need to be able to write to
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| 17:58 | <mistik1> hey pops
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| 17:59 | <jammcq> hey buddy
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| 17:59 | what's up?
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| 18:02 | <TTT_Travis> how do I edit the fstab of my clients>
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| 18:02 | do I just edit /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/fstab?
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| 18:03 | <jammcq> what version of ltsp ?
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| 18:03 | <TTT_Travis> or is there more to it?
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| 18:06 | 5.0.7
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| 18:08 | <jammcq> yes
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| 18:10 | <TTT_Travis> vagrantc do you know how to atleast make the /home writable on my clients?
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| 18:10 | client*
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| 18:15 | <jammcq> the root filesystem is mounted read-only, cuz you don't want multiple clients stepping all over themselves. if you want to write to the users home directory, you'll have to mount /home as a read-write filesystem
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| 18:22 | <vagrantc> TTT_Travis: /etc/fstab is dynamically generated at boot
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| 18:32 | <TTT_Travis> vagrantc how do I set I thing to it?
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| 18:36 | like how would I add custom entires
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