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hi, I'm trying to get ltsp-pnp working on Ubuntu 12.04 and getting "Error: Socket failed: Connection refused" during boot. Anyone come across this in the latest version?
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alkisg, shouldn't sys/* be in /etc/ltsp/ltsp-update-image.excludes for ltsp-pnp?
I've installed ltsp-pnp, but pxelinux.0 isn't installed in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/
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Hyperbyte: did you run /usr/share/ltsp/update-kernels?
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rickogden, don't have it
Oh I do
Must've been copy/paste error
Just ran it - still don't have it
and this ltsp-update-image --cleanup / ?
Hyperbyte: it is a 32 install right?
Maybe I ran it in the wrong order now... let me retry.
hmm, the update-kernels script (iirc) is where the pxelinux.0 should be created
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Right, that did it.
update-kernels has to be ran before ltsp-update-image
I noticed that the bbd-server authfile is looking for /etc/ltsp/nbd-server.allow (which doesn't exist), is this correct in ltsp-pnp?
"IP-Config: no response after 2 secs - giving up" Does that mean anything to you?
Hyperbyte: did you add the IPAPPEND 3?
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and are you running a separate dhcp server?
I'm running a seperate dhcp server
alkisg said I shouldn't do IPAPPEND=3 then
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So I skipped that
oh right, hmm
I can retry with IPAPPEND=3
if alkisg said not to I'd listen to him, I'm no expert at this
I'm doing a similar thing to you except just slightly further ahead :)
so why did alkisg say not to do IPAPPEND? As it may be relevant to my own situation.
I've added IPAPPEND and updated kernels, but doesn't change anything
I get some errors right after fetching pxelinux.cfg/default, amongst the one above, then it waits a bit, spits out a bunch more errors (which I can't read, too fast) and now I'm in BusyBox
remove the "quiet splash plymouth:force-splash vt.handoff=7" from the pxelinux.cfg/default file
and see if you can read anything
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Nah, it's not the splash, it's busybox that's clearing the screen
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Insufficient information to set up nbd?!
yay, got lightdm more or less to work for thin client sessions instead of ldm..
That's awesome - where do I change that? I don't see a reference to nbdroot anywhre.
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hi, i am having issues from time to time while logging from thin clients. Sometimes user sessions seems to get stuck and I have to enter via ssh and delete .cache directory under /home so users can log in again, otherwise session start never completes, is there any way to incorporate that .cache erase before anything else?
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or anyone else involved with 4.2 & the mirror
Rob_Z, what do you need?
Hrm... I got ltsp-pnp to get further now, but now it says that the image is a few million MB in size, and that it can't mount images that large
In fact, it is 1.2 GB
I maintain mirrors.tds.net and I just had a quick question or 2
Hyperbyte: ask: Don't ask to ask a question, simply ask it, and if someone knows the answer, they'll respond. Please hang around for at least a full hour after asking a question, as not everybody constantly monitors the channel.
Hyperbyte: wasn't jamcq on holiday?
knipwim, yeah, Rob_Z and I sorted it out.
knipwim, could you help me with my nbd problem maybe?
probably not, gentoo doesn't use nbd
but reading the size problem, i had something like it when testing
the generated image was ok, but when mounting it complained about the size
Sounds like what's happening here. Did you solve it?
Negotiation: ..size= 4229768MBError: Exported device is too big for
me. Get 64-bit machine :-(
that was the error ^^^
Yeah, I get similar...
So, did you resolve the issue?
On some mailing lists it said that it only happens when using named exports
i still don't know if it is an image problem
or initramfs problem
Is it easy to convert 12.04 to use port-based exports again?
hmm, could be, exporting port based works, but i never tested that in an actual boot
maybe it is a 64bit problem
I'm using i386 though.
did you create the image on a 64bit machine, and are booting with an x86?
i'm just guessing here
No, i386 on all accounts. It is a virtual machine though.
(the one where I created the image)
Booting with a real one.
you probably only have to change your nbd-server settings, and nbd boot settings to use port based nbd's
Can you tell me what I need to do exactly?
i think the nbd-server file is only for name-based exports
check out the man page to see the command to run for a port-based exports
and as for the boot options, I use dnsmasq to provide a kernel boot option for that
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vagrantc: I'm busy merging ltsp from Debian, so far going through debian/control (and didn't spot anything to change yet), expecting it to take a few more hours to go through the rest. I'll let you know what delta I end up with.
my guess is that I'll at least get some delta on the udeb and matching templates and translations
vagrantc: oh, and we don't seem to agree on ltsp-client-core too, will use some Vendor magics there for now ;)
actually looking at ltsp-client, the delta in ltsp-client-core is pretty minimal and might actually be unneeded but I'd have to check the upstream code to be sure
basically I end up having: pciutils, usbutils, udhcpc and busybox-static
stgraber: cool :)
the X-Ubuntu-Depends should handle that nicely.
pciutils and usbutils might not be needed (depends if we check on lspci/lsusb in the code), udhcpc is needed as at least Ubuntu uses udhcpc instead of ipconfig
busybox-static is an hack to prevent the system from trying to install both busybox and busybox-static by forcing -static from the beginning (speeds up dpkg a little and avoids an extra package on the media IIRC)
vagrantc: cryptsetup?? does that actually work with LTSP? :)
stgraber: for encrypted swap
vagrantc: debian/control looks like that: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1121930/
I'm pretty sure wget is required for ltsp-cluster, AFAIK there's nothing preventing it from working on Debian so you might consider adding that one
though you might be inheriting it from something else, these things changes quite often ;)
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I am using a modern server qith 16Gb RAM and 4 CPUs (Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E31220 @ 3.10GHz with 4 cores each), I have three users using mainly firefox, libre office and skype. They are complaining that it is quite slow
stgraber: aren't there client-side ltsp-cluster packages, or just server-side?
i am using XFCE (xubuntu) with LTSP
vagrantc: just server side, all the client side is in ltsp-trunk (and maybe some bits in ldm-trunk)
does anyone have an idea on which user experience can you get for office users?
stgraber: ah, ok.
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now to merge debian/rules, that'll be fun ;)
stgraber: should be trivial
stgraber: just take mine, you're not doing anything fancy :P
well, Ubuntu was still on pre-dh7 style, so I actually need to read it all and figure out what extra bits Ubuntu needs
my guess is that we just need the upstart jobs
stgraber: you mean you can't use dh8?
stgraber: i added upstart jobs
stgraber: since the debian package could in theory use them
oh nice, then no delta ;)
so it has support for both init scripts and upstart jobs
I'm definitely moving to the new fancy dh, it's just that my current packaging doesn't, so the diff is quite ugly ;)
finally gave the thin clients at freegeek some real hardware, and ubuntu, and now people watch (presumably HTML5) videos on LTSP
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vagrantc: ltsp-client-core delta: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1121997/
not sure the "Ubuntu/share" stuff is right, but the rest should be (missing ltsp-open and getltscfg-cluster)
just 4 files left and I'll be able to do a test build and compare the resulting binaries for anything I missed
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alkisg: pretty close to having ltsp merged for quantal, just need to finish dealing with a postinst and with ltsp-client-builder
stgraber: cool! We're using the debian ltsp package unmodified here, worked fine so far, but I didn't look into the details (fonts etc) as we're either using only thins, or only fats+ltsp-pnp, so we didn't test all cases...
alkisg: yeah, the delta isn't too big and can probably be made even smaller once I check what we actually need
stgraber: ideally, it'd be nice if any changes could be incorporated into the same source debian/ dir, so that the differences result from debuild running on different distros...
Hyperbyte: typical command line in pxelinux.cfg/default: append ro initrd=initrd.img-3.2.0-25-generic-pae init=/sbin/init-ltsp quiet splash plymouth:force-splash vt.handoff=7 root=/dev/nbd0
hmm, Debian still uses nbdswapd in /etc/inetd.conf??
alkisg: yeah, the changes to debian/control should be easy to merge, the changes to the debian-installer stuff and .install will be a bit trickier
alkisg: do we still need ltsp-server.postinst to generate /etc/nbd-server/config if it doesn't exist?
or was that fixed in nbd?
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stgraber: that logic was moved to ltsp-config, but I'm not sure if it's called from postinst
stgraber: shouldn't really be using nbdswapd from inetd
it would be a debian policy violation to do that from postinst on debian
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vagrantc: yeah, Ubuntu dropped the update-inetd call, but you still have it in Debian
newish versions of nbd ship /etc/nbd-server/config that supports /etc/nbd-server/conf.d/*
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yeah, we had that nbd for a while, though the debconf template was broken and wouldn't generate /etc/nbd-server/config ;) so I had to cp the template to /etc/nbd-server/config in the postinst ;)
# enable the ldm info daemon in inetd.conf
update-inetd --group LTSP --add "9572 stream tcp nowait nobody /usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/nbdswapd"
vagrantc: ^ you have that in ltsp-server.postinst
the comment is a lie and the line shouldn't be needed ;)
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ok, merge with Debian done, now to test build that stuff ;)
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hi, when i do chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 i can not resolve DNS names
network works fine with IPs
any idea on where should i look for?
/etc/resolv.conf seems that no longer has the nameservers
where should i look for?
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oh, uskerine ... had you wated just 10 more minutes...
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