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Channel log from 26 June 2011   (all times are UTC)

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<fossala>
Is anyone here a dev or in contact with the k12 team? I've just noticed there doing there next relase with rh6 clones? Is the an ETA on how long its going to be till a release?
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<fossala>
Has anyone used the private beta of the new k12linux?
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07:08
<TheMatrix3000_>
nope
07:24
ahahaha
07:25
alkisg, I am awesome
07:25
I didn't have to go to the office
07:25
i changed the ldap file to use /usr/eanderson for user eanderson
07:25
i got in
07:25
and eanderson is in sudoers
07:25
lol
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10:10
<Gnoze5>
alkisg
10:10
we managed to get ie6 with java6 running fine
10:10
:P
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11:38
<alkisg>
Does anyone know which use cases $RDP_SOUND covers?
11:38
Since rdesktop is running as a localapp, why would it ever need padsp?
11:38
And, why would someone use pasuspender (=let LTSP load pulseaudio and then suspend it) instead of using SOUND=False (=no pulseaudio at all)?
11:40* alkisg has made an xfreerdp script and tries to see if he needs to support RDP_SOUND in that too
11:40
<alkisg>
http://paste.ubuntu.com/633167/
11:41
Also, why is RDP_OPTIONS there? In which case SCREEN_07="rdesktop params" isn't enough?
11:42
And finally, why is rdesktop.sh needed, since ltsp/xinitrc can respawn the rdesktop process itself?
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12:27
<vagrantc>
alkisg: i think gadi's the one to ask on that stuff
12:27
alkisg: is that any different than freerdp-x11 ?
12:27
<alkisg>
vagrantc: nope, it's contained on that package
12:28
<vagrantc>
alkisg: ah, got it
12:28
alkisg: wouldn't it be feasible to use the same script for both?
12:28
screen.d script, that is
12:28
last time i tried it, it worked with simply replacing which binary was called
12:29
<alkisg>
Sure. But I wonder why it screen.d/rdesktop needs to be so complicated...
12:29
<vagrantc>
there may be some commandline incompatibilities, but the defaults at least worked
12:29
alkisg: agreed.
12:29
<alkisg>
I think mgariepy needed the rdesktop.sh separation, and I thought maybe someone from revolution linux would also know why
12:29
<vagrantc>
the rdesktop.sh bit is broken in debian stable :(
12:29
<alkisg>
I can't see the reason for it
12:30
<vagrantc>
alkisg: commit 1760 has *some* explanation
12:32
most applications seem to work fine with multiple --
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12:32
<alkisg>
Hmm about pasuspender... I don't see why that is needed too :D
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12:33
<alkisg>
Pulseaudio should be able to mix local alsa (works fine here), and if someone doesn't want pulse, he can set SOUND=False
12:34
<vagrantc>
might also be differences in versions?
12:34
i.e. bugs since fixed
12:35
<alkisg>
Could be, I think there were some pulseaudio bugs previously that would cause trouble with SCREEN_07=ldm AND at the same time SCREEN_08=rdesktop
12:35
But they're fixed even in my lucid, and that's a very rare use case anyway (otherwise SOUND=False would work find for just rdesktop)
12:36
*fine
12:38
So I'm thinking of commiting that super-simple xfreerdp script, and wait to see in the future if someone still needs pasuspender/padsp... if not, we can then merge those 2 scripts
12:39
(of course I'll wait to hear from Gadi and mgariepy first)
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<vagrantc>
i should probably get that bug fixed in ltsp
13:05
i mean, in debian stable ... i forgot to include the rdesktop.sh somehow
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13:10
<alkisg>
It's the same in Lucid
13:10
I had to put it in a PPA to get it to schools here
13:11
stgraber: would it be easy to get an SRU for ltsp for this?
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15:13
<TheMatrix3000_>
anyone here using italc
15:39
<dgroos>
hi TheMatrix3000_ I'm interested in knowing this as well. I used it some in Hardy and tried the next year when using Jaunty but used sch-scripts--Greek/alkisg's solution--in Lucid. Next year I plan to continue using sch-scripts.
15:55
<TheMatrix3000_>
yea
15:56
I saw it, but I wasn't able to get it to work I don't think
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15:58
<dgroos>
Were you running it on a thin client or standalone? Alkis helped me get it working.
16:08
<TheMatrix3000_>
thin client
16:08
but both the staff and manager use thin clients
16:08
and i want to give manager ability to view the students
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16:19
<dgroos>
It was designed to be run on the server, but alkisg made an alteration in a version to make it work on a thin client. So, I run it on a thin client to control other thin clients. It's quick and works well except for the fact that if a student shuts down the thin client I have to restart sch-scripts to recapture this client.
16:19
I'm interested to see how it works with Fat Clients next year.
16:20
<TheMatrix3000_>
what version dgaroos
16:36
<dgroos>
Well, I'm looking online and not seeing the info I need, but I think it was version that ended in .37 or .38. Ask alkis for more info. Good luck.
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18:40
<Gnoze5>
yellow
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18:58
<pmatulis>
Gnoze5: yellow?
19:04
<TheMatrix3000_>
Gnoze i got everything working now
19:04
it took some time but now i can deploy tomorrow throughout the company
19:06
how do i disable compiz?
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19:15
<TheMatrix3000_>
!disable_compiz
19:16
!compiz
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19:56
<TheMatrix3000_>
how is xscreensaver vs gnome-screensaver in processor usage on the ltsp server
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