IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 30 August 2017   (all times are UTC)

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09:49
<ZAJDAN>
ltsp server show me another IRQ than is in BIOS for COM(rs232)...is it standard?
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11:36
<alkisg>
!not-ltsp
11:36
<ltsp>
I do not know about 'not-ltsp', but I do know about these similar topics: 'non-ltsp'
11:36
<alkisg>
!non-ltsp | echo ZAJDAN:
11:36
<ltsp>
ZAJDAN: non-ltsp: It's better to direct your questions to the most suitable channel. For example, for questions that are not specific to LTSP, you might try distro-specific channels, such as #ubuntu, #debian, #suse, #fedora etc.
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15:08
<vagrantc>
alkisg, rebasing your gits.
15:14* sutula thinks vagrantc is speaking to nobody :)
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15:16
<sutula>
ahhh...thanks
15:17
vagrantc: Good meeting you again...I interacted with you here maybe 5-6 years ago, early on in your maintenance of the Debian packages
15:17
your nick hasn't changed :)
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<vagrantc>
sutula: yeah, i remember you
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sutula: i may have met one of your colleages at some debconf
15:21
though early on would have been 11-12 years ago :)
15:21
er, 11...
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<sutula>
wow, you're right...I was applying for DD in 2007...time flies
15:25
<vagrantc>
no doubt
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<alkisg_web>
vagrantc: sorry, not very familiar with git yet :)
16:06
<ogra_>
it hurts less after a while :)
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(it never gets pleasant though (IMHO))
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<vagrantc>
alkisg_web: is it basically ready?
16:38
alkisg_web: i was planning on taking it through another test-drive ... haven't tested any of the patches since debconf
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<vagrantc>
though i can't stand working without a VCS
16:40
how do people do it?
16:52
<alkisg_web>
vagrantc: yes afaik it's ready for experimental
16:52
...and possibly even testing
16:53
<vagrantc>
alkisg_web: i pretty much always do NEW uploads through experimental
16:54
<alkisg_web>
At some point I accidentaly undid a commit that I already pushed to launchpad, and then I didn't know how to redo it because I went 3 commits ahead of it,
16:54
<vagrantc>
partly, because it still requires binary uploads, and i prefer to do source-only uploads for anything i expect people to use
16:54
<alkisg_web>
so I saw "git merge" but it produced a silly merging message that I didn't want... so I ended up with push --force :D
16:54
<vagrantc>
alkisg_web: git merge would be the proper way to fix that, if you already pushed the new one
16:54
<alkisg_web>
I didn't want to "merge" anything
16:55
I wanted to commit my 3 new commits, after the one I had in launchpad
16:55
But I couldn't find a way to "push those 3 commits"...
16:55
I wouldn't mind pulling from launchpad, but I didn't want "merge"...
16:55
Merge for me means "import a specific branch", not "fix my own git incompetence" :P
16:55
<vagrantc>
reminds me of https://joeyh.name/blog/entry/our_beautiful_fake_histories/
16:56
alkisg_web: alternately, rebase your branch against what was pushed
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<alkisg_web>
That sounds right, but I didn't even know how to google that in the limited time I had before saying "omg ok let's git force push and forget about it" :D
16:57
Sometimes it's nice to learn about other things, e.g. git while programming, but other times you need more focus and unknown things are distractions...
16:58
<vagrantc>
sure
16:58
alkisg_web: for future reference, git rebase origin/master (or whatever the upstream name is for you)
16:58
<alkisg_web>
ty!
16:59
<vagrantc>
although that would have likely produced a conflict with the .pot file ... but git status is fairly good at telling you how to fix that
16:59
<alkisg_web>
I would keep the .pot from launchpad if I knew how
17:00
<vagrantc>
not include the .pot in launchpad?
17:00
<alkisg_web>
I'm sure I could do it properly if I knew about rebase and if I spent 5 minutes with it
17:01
I just didn't have the patience at that time
17:01
Anyways... did you get a chance to review some of the documentation?
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<vagrantc>
alkisg_web: i don't know/remember where the documentation is
17:03
<alkisg_web>
!ltsp-manager
17:03
<ltsp>
ltsp-manager: LTSP Manager is a GUI tool that makes LTSP maintenance easy. It's the recommended way to install LTSP in common setups. More info: http://wiki.ltsp.org/wiki/Ltsp-manager
17:04
<vagrantc>
that 8GB ram issue is really annoying
17:04
<alkisg_web>
Yeah :/
17:06
<vagrantc>
alkisg_web: i think there is a way to produce documentation from mediawiki content, with a slight bit of extra markup ... wonder if we couldn't do that with wiki.ltsp.org
17:07
<alkisg_web>
We're doing it for ts.sch.gr/wiki, but it needs to be a careful collection of pages
17:07
Unfortunately wikies can be bloated when there are many authors over the years
17:07
<vagrantc>
right
17:07
it'd be nice to be able to output a .pdf and .epub version, though
17:09
heh... "soon to be available in Debian experimental"
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17:22
<desperate_user>
Hi guys! Quick question: Is there a way to chose between fat and thin client in a boot menu?
17:29
<alkisg_web>
desperate_user: put ltsp.LTSP_FATCLIENT=True in the kernel cmdline
17:38
<vagrantc>
still runs on debian stretch, at least. :)
17:39
and it actually brings up an editor now to edit files, rather than less in an xterm
17:43
alkisg_web: "Initial Setup" isn't translated
17:43
alkisg_web: i'm guessing we need to pull updates from launchpad?
17:44
looks like someone started on a polish translation as well already :)
17:50
still, i think it's worth uploading even without perfect translations
17:51
<alkisg_web>
vagrantc: the last upload doesn't contain the last greek translations because launchpad wasn't yet ready, yeah
17:51
I'll do another upload when it's ready, e.g. in a couple of hours
17:53
Ah, vagrantc, if you want, just pull from ltsp-manager-translations and push to ltsp-manager
17:53
It should be ready now; I can do it in 1-2 hours but not just now
17:54
<vagrantc>
yeah, seems updated, i'll sync it :)
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<vagrantc>
so, we actually need to commit ltsp-manager.pot before launchpad will see the appropriate strings?
18:04
or see/update strings
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<alkisg_web>
vagrantc: yes, I've documented the procedure in a commit in the source code somewhere... I think in ltsp
18:23
We upload ltsp-manager.pot on feature freeze,
18:23
and we download/merge the .po before release
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18:47
<vagrantc>
oops....
18:47
did a source-only upload, which will get rejected.
18:47
well, will try again
18:51
well, will get it right eventually ...
19:11
yup, source upload got rejected, retrying...
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<ben_nabiy>
vagrantc: ping?
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<vagrantc>
ben_nabiy: hrm?