|00:12||rjune has quit IRC|
|00:17||alkisg has quit IRC|
|00:29||Gadi1 has joined #ltsp|
|00:29||Gadi has quit IRC|
|00:44||zirconiumks has joined #ltsp|
|01:04||zirconiumks has quit IRC|
|01:05||try2free has joined #ltsp|
|01:45||try2free has quit IRC|
|02:08||alkisg_work has joined #ltsp|
|02:28||vagrantc has quit IRC|
|02:38||Nubae1 has quit IRC|
|02:38||Nubae has joined #ltsp|
|02:51||kim0 has joined #ltsp|
|02:54||pete_ has joined #ltsp|
hi all, got a question
|02:54||pete_ is now known as Guest3732|
i have fedora 10 running k12
i have got ltsp running in qem but how do i get it to run a real thin client?
|02:57||muttley_ has joined #ltsp|
i try video playback on thin client, but on vlc i have some frames drop
vlc output:  avcodec decoder error: more than 5 seconds of late video -> droppingframe (computer too slow ?)
|03:01||pasmen has quit IRC|
i have many question...make all :)
what is the shutdown procedure from thin client (GUI)...i made log out and on ldm shutdown?! it's long and my thin client freeze...
how do you change dhcp from ltspbr0 to eth0 in virtualbox?
muttley_: what are the video parameters? (resolution, fps...) Is xvideo enabled? Is your client CPU usage < 100% ?
|03:11||synchris_odium is now known as synchris|
|03:12||DarKnesS_WolF has joined #ltsp|
hi alkisg...i think you have help me last time
Hello... Yes, I think so
thin client resoliton 1360*768
Did you try the "xvinfo" command? Is xv enabled?
xv is enabled on matrox g4...but i have this line: maximum XvImage size: 1024 x 1024
What's the video resolution and frames per second?
Do you notice any difference if you play it full screen, as opposed to non-full screen?
no it's the same
OK, so the 1024x1024 limit is the source rect limit, not the destination rect limit
i have see video playback statistics and 10-20% of frames is dropped
See the client CPU usage, is it < 100% ?
And, try to playback the video locally - is the matrox capable of playing a full screen video at this resolution?
i switch to sceen_0 and command top on thin client os see 20-30% of idle cpu
my cpu don't enough power for decode divx...it's only 350 mhz (pentium II)
but if i use mplayer the video seem good
(sorry for my english...)
If you use mplayer it plays OK, but if you use vlc it doesn't?
Maybe the transfer the xvideo in different format, e.g. YV12 / RGB. Monitor the network bandwidth with iftop on the server
i don't know if i have frame drop on mplayer but the video it's better
Mplayer will tell you about the xv format it uses (e.g. YV12), I don't know about vlc. So your video would need about 50Mbps with YV12, but 200Mbps with RGB32.
mhhh... i remember it's lower 6 Mbyte
bits or bytes?
|03:21||Guest3732 has quit IRC|
OK, for both mplayer and vlc?
i don't know i must retest (but as last time i don't have thin client now)
i have all message response from vlc (and cvlc without gui) and mplayer
Put the messages from vlc to pastebot
alkisg_work: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. A link to the content will be pasted in the channel.
(or cvlc - if they're more detailed)
"muttley_" pasted "#############################x" (111 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/281
you can read "xvinfo" command, vlc and mplayer
if usefull: when try to play video with 1280x532 res on vlc start but VERY LOW...
x11 video output error: X11 request 144.1 failed with error code 10: BadAccess (attempt to access private resource denied)
Maybe it thinks xv isn't supported, and renders the video by using the slow putimage method (instead of xvputimage).
...on mplayer don't start and say me: "VO: [xv] 1280x532 => 1280x532 Planar YV12
Source image dimensions are too high: 1280x532 (maximum is 1024x1024)
FATAL: Cannot initialize video driver."
yeah, that's the 1024x1024 limit you mentioned before
vlc don't support xvinfo?!
It does - with your card it has a problem
Your video driver supports to claim shared memory over the network - which is wrong
i have also try totem player but with the same result of vlc...
but also mplayer try use shared memory: "[VO_XV] Shared memory not supported"
Maybe you could find some *force xv* option for vlc...
someone should redirect this http://ltsp.sourceforge.net/ to ltsp.org no?
muttley_: I guess mplayer detects that, and uses xvputimage but not xvshmputimage. The others fail to detect that and use putimage (no xv)
thank you man
That's just my guest - you should ask a xorg expert to be sure :P
i try to find option for vlc *focre xv*
excuseme, a last question
my matrox have: maximum XvImage size: 1024 x 1024
but when try play video with 1280x532 say me :Source image dimensions are too high: 1280x532 (maximum is 1024x1024)
can i "re-balance" supported resolution?!
You can transcode the video before it's transmitted, yes
1024*1024 is aspect ratio 1:1...i have a 16:9
transcode?!? some indication :)
daduke: jammcq was last seen in #ltsp 13 hours, 21 minutes, and 59 seconds ago: <jammcq> hello friends
muttley_: I don't know if you can change the 1024x1024 limit to something like 1300x500 without patching the driver yourself - or even if your hardware supports it. But you could use the transcoding - streaming option of vlc or gstreamer to reduce the video resolution before it is sent to the clients.
muttley_: of course, with 100mbps network, you'll only be able to sent video to one client... :)
yes i know...but it's not a problem...for the moment
i would not loss resolution... i hope that if 1024x1024 = 1048576
...also 1360x768= 1044480...it's the same
|03:48||Egyptian[Home] has quit IRC|
perhaps i'll buy a new graphic card ...
|03:49||Egyptian[Home] has joined #ltsp|
thank you again for all support...
|03:51||tjikkun_work has joined #ltsp|
is there some stuff for run ltsp (client) on xbox 1?
muttley_: since you can install a pretty regular Linux on it, I would assume 'yes'
gPXE and similar i don't think is supported
muttley_: probably not. You might be able to install something locally tho, have a look at http://wiki.phys.ethz.ch/readme/how_to_create_ltsp_boot_images?s=livecd, that's what I came up with to create LTSP boot images for CD and USB sticks.
muttley_: you may also just copy the kernels from the tftpboot directory locally to the xbox.
i'm not a linux expert! :(
i think both the procedure it's so hard...
Where can the xbox boot from? hard disk, cd?
Have you already put linux to it?
xbox can boot form cd and from hd
muttley_: if you've got a modchip, that is
yes only for try...the xbox problem is low ram (64 mb)...low for fat client...good for thin client
OK, put linux on the hd (i'm sure you can find tutorials for this) and then copy /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/vmlinuz and initrd to the /boot/ directory. Update menu.lst and you're done...
i think it's too simple!
i don't know i normal x86 kenel it's good for xbox
i don't know if normal x86 kenel it's good for xbox
muttley_: I think the necessary patches have been incorporated
in ltsp thin client kernel?!? are there patches for xbox?!
muttley_: I have no idea about xbox, I thought it had a regular pentium CPU...
Intel Celeron 733 MHz CPU, an nVidia GeForce 3MX, 64 MB of RAM, a 8/10 GB hard disk, a DVD drive and 10/100 Ethernet.
muttley_, alkisg_work: it's a slightly modified celeron. there were some patches for the controller & stuff, but I'm pretty sure they're in the regular kernel sources now
but normal live cd don't start on xbox...
muttley_: which is more of a boot loader issue I think. my xbox work is already some years back...
sorry don't understand...your xbox work?!? with what?? ltsp?!
muttley_: no, modchips, HW upgrades, Linux, that kind of stuff
if you know good ltsp because don't make some stuff for xbox :D
ehehhe...you know if xbox graphic car
ehm...do you know if xbox graphic card ( nVidia GeForce 3MX ) support xv?!
muttley_: my geforce 400mx requires the proprietary nvidia drivers on the chroot to support xv.
muttley_: that's rather a driver question, but my guees would be yes, using nv
daduke: I don't think nv supports xv. :(
At least in 3-4 different nvidia chipsets I've tried...
alkisg_work: it doesn't? how about nouveau?
I've never tried nouveau.
alkisg_work: I'm not sure Nvidia's nvidia will run on Xbox, the chip being pretty OEM and all...
alkisg_work: http://forum.soft32.com/linux/Bug-271235-nv-driver-fi-etensions-test-ftopict294379.html - if they manage to fix the xv extension, it seems to be present at least :)
i think if try is so simple as you say...i'll try :)
|04:29||muttley_ has left #ltsp|
|04:30||muttley_ has joined #ltsp|
if install ltsp on xbox is so simple as you say...i'll try :)
however i think for who have "money problem" xbox it's very good thin client (small, cheap and low energy power)
this is the difference by a normal pc: http://www.xbox-linux.org/wiki/Porting_an_Operating_System_to_the_Xbox_HOWTO
|04:49||ogra has quit IRC|
|04:50||ogra has joined #ltsp|
|05:17||Nubae1 has joined #ltsp|
|05:17||marius-- has joined #ltsp|
|05:17||Nubae has quit IRC|
|05:40||kaos01 has joined #ltsp|
|06:01||Selveste1 has joined #ltsp|
|06:22||hersonls_ has joined #ltsp|
|06:26||hersonls_ has quit IRC|
where can i get a documentation about ltsp+ldap and user authentification over ldap?
marius--, look up yer distro + ldap, ltsp has got nothing to do with it :)
so how can i run on ubuntu an ldap server with user authentification?
marius--, google ubuntu +ldap, first link ;)
anyone any ideas as to why X would take ages to start up using ldm, fedora10 ltsp5 ?
|07:02||bobby_C has joined #ltsp|
|07:02||otavio has joined #ltsp|
|07:26||Egyptian[Home] has quit IRC|
|07:27||Egyptian[Home] has joined #ltsp|
|07:27||evilx has joined #LTSP|
|07:39||alkisg_work has quit IRC|
kaos01, sounds like network problem..
once i login in its all good
not sure even how to try to find the problem i ran tcpdump on the client but didnt see anything taking a long time
what the issue?
to be hones i dont know, but once i loginto ldm, enter username password it takes a LONG time for the desktop environment to apear, once i log in everythign works good
bit the server and client are very capable machines, so i strongly doubt that would be a problem
plenty of cpu/ram
|07:48||litlebuda has joined #ltsp|
could just be an issue with how it mount the home directory
you mean teh fuse thing ?
it how it actually verify if the username and pass is correct
from what I understand
well i think disbling local devices didnt improve anything
so it doesnt mount home
|07:50||muttley_ has quit IRC|
it still going to mount the home directory
well i have a shell and i cant see home mounted anywhere
/home/user isnt there after you logged in?
no, but give me a sec to confirm ( i will reboot :) )
yes gettign rid of home did speed things up !!!!!!!
but i want local apps :)
actually no i dont
|07:59||hanthana has joined #ltsp|
evilx, thankyou !!
(you should file a bug in fedora about that, sshfs works pretty fast in ubuntu and debian for the localapp home mount)
might be an issue with the ssh server setup
any ideas as to what it might be ? its a default sshd setup
no, i dont use fedora
generally ldm mounts /home/$USER via sshfs during login if localapps are enabled
so it might be fedoras handling of sshfs or the server side setup that slows down
i will test sshfs after gettign some sleep
|08:11||kaos01 has quit IRC|
where can i get help for my ldap setup?
|08:20||litlebuda has quit IRC|
|08:47||loather-work has quit IRC|
|08:49||loather-work has joined #ltsp|
|08:50||Gadi has joined #ltsp|
|08:56||ogra has quit IRC|
|09:03||rjent has joined #ltsp|
Greetings, I have an old ltsp setup and when there are odd things happen with dns I get the Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key error on the kdm log of the the system I have the chooser running.
|09:05||alkisg has joined #ltsp|
|09:13||AmosSam has joined #ltsp|
|09:15||loather-work has quit IRC|
|09:15||loather-work has joined #ltsp|
|09:24||Selveste1 has quit IRC|
|09:37||marius-- has quit IRC|
|09:37||AmosSam has quit IRC|
|09:42||din_os has joined #ltsp|
|09:45||F-GT has quit IRC|
|09:46||F-GT has joined #ltsp|
i have a problem with ltsp rdesktop session
with ubuntu server
in rdesktop session win key doesn't work, but worse, sometimes key shortcuts with ctrl don't work
any ideas please?
|09:53||yggdrasill_ has quit IRC|
|10:06||furiousdraz has joined #ltsp|
I used LTSP V5 with Edubuntu (ubuntu with add-on of edubuntu) but i don't understand why i'm not able to launch my computer with PXE
First : i can see on syslog that my thin client take an IP address (Mar 12 16:00:21 edubuntu dhcpd: DHCPACK on 192.168.111.53 to 00:22:64:6f:1f:ea via eth0)
but after that i see this error : Mar 12 15:58:23 edubuntu in.tftpd: tftp: client does not accept options
an now, my thin client avec a black screen with a dash blinking at the top
do you know what'a appened?
|10:13||cliebow has joined #ltsp|
|10:15||marius-- has joined #ltsp|
|10:16||nicros_ has joined #ltsp|
|10:17||nicros_ has quit IRC|
|10:25||ogra has joined #ltsp|
in rdesktop session win key doesn't work, but worse, sometimes key shortcuts with ctrl don't work, any idea please?
|10:29||tjikkun_work has quit IRC|
|10:32||hanthana has quit IRC|
|10:39||Remaille has joined #ltsp|
|10:40||The_Code has joined #ltsp|
|10:44||bobby_C has quit IRC|
|10:55||alkisg has quit IRC|
|10:58||staffencasa has joined #ltsp|
|11:01||kim0 has quit IRC|
|11:10||alkisg has joined #ltsp|
|11:11||Remaille has quit IRC|
|11:18||din_os has quit IRC|
|11:45||lucy has joined #ltsp|
anyone know how to add libraries in LTSP got the error: error loading tls libc.so.6 can not now, when trying to access
anyone know how to add libraries in LTSP got the error: error loading tls libc.so.6 can not now, when trying to access
|11:55||Ahmuck has joined #ltsp|
|11:59||Lns has joined #ltsp|
|11:59||Ahmuck has joined #ltsp|
|12:03||Subhodip has joined #ltsp|
|12:06||Gadi has quit IRC|
|12:11||The_Code_ has joined #ltsp|
|12:18||maginot has joined #ltsp|
|12:21||spectra has joined #ltsp|
anyone know why I'm receiving this messagem from a client that can 't boot>]: Mar 12 14:12:51 inmetro-ltsp dhcpd: DHCPREQUEST for 192.168.0.20 (192.168.0.1) from 00:40:a7:0a:f0:da via eth0
Mar 12 14:12:51 inmetro-ltsp dhcpd: DHCPACK on 192.168.0.20 to 00:40:a7:0a:f0:da via eth0
Mar 12 14:12:51 inmetro-ltsp in.tftpd: tftp: client does not accept options
|12:21||Ahmuck has quit IRC|
|12:24||The_Code has quit IRC|
|12:25||alkisg has quit IRC|
maginot, it's not really an error.. a warning that shouldn't mean anything to ya
|12:36||cliebow has quit IRC|
|12:36||shrek has quit IRC|
|12:36||cliebow has joined #ltsp|
|12:36||din_os has joined #ltsp|
|12:41||litlebuda has joined #ltsp|
|12:43||litlebuda has quit IRC|
|12:43||litlebuda has joined #ltsp|
|12:48||litlebuda has quit IRC|
|12:48||litlebuda has joined #ltsp|
|12:49||litlebuda has joined #ltsp|
|12:55||_UsUrPeR_ has quit IRC|
|12:56||_UsUrPeR_ has joined #ltsp|
rjune: you know how to add libraries or gcc in LTSP got the error: error loading tls libc.so.6 can not now, when trying to access
5.0 or 4.2
My first question is why did it happen in the first place. were you trying to update something?
4.2 has a build environment available for it, you can use it to build software for the ltsp root
must run a script to drive to a biometric reader,
You can access gcc in a shell session on the LTSP client?
|13:11||alkisg has joined #ltsp|
johnny: hMmm but after that warning the boot process hangs...
|13:11||din_os has left #ltsp|
rjune: I create an environment with LBE?
|13:11||litlebuda has quit IRC|
|13:11||johnny has left #ltsp|
Hmm on the client the message I have is Loading, please wait \n Ip-config: eth0 hardware xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx MTU 1500 DHCP RARP and at this moment the boot of the client is stuck... this can be a missing module issue?
|13:16||mamboloco has joined #ltsp|
|13:18||Nubae1 has quit IRC|
|13:19||Nubae has joined #ltsp|
|13:19||furiousdraz has left #ltsp|
|13:36||twinprism has quit IRC|
alkisg: ubuntu 7.10 ltsp5... already in production enviorement
maginot: pxe clients or etherboot?
|13:51||Egyptian[Home] has quit IRC|
alkisg: pxe clients... this is a particular box that isnt equal to the others we have ... Its board is a RTL8139
|13:51||Egyptian[Home] has joined #ltsp|
maginot: could you try to put this line in the bottom of /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default file, to see if it's a problem with ipconfig and your dhcp server(s)?
alkisg: something very very weird just happened
I think its interesting to report
this box has 2 nic, one onboard that have pxe support and other offboard without pxe
when it was stuck I tooked off the cable from the onboard board and then it plugged it on the offboard card, after that it continued the boot process and finaly showed the ubuntu login screen
if I try to boot directly from the offboard card I cant cause it doesnt have pxe support, I did this 2 times and all happened again
|13:57||irule has joined #ltsp|
maginot: then you'll have to pass the specific interface to ipconfig
as a kernel parameter, from the default file I told you above
See the recent messages in ltsp-discuss list, someone did a patch for this kind of problem
alkisg: well, just tooking off the offboard resolved the question now the box booted fine
but thanks for your attention
|14:00||Remaille has joined #ltsp|
|14:01||alkisg has quit IRC|
|14:02||Subhodip has quit IRC|
|14:05||alkisg has joined #ltsp|
|14:36||alkisg has quit IRC|
|14:39||mushroom1lue is now known as mushroomblue|
|14:48||maginot has quit IRC|
lucy, no, you can download the build environment
I suspect you've changed sometehing already to get that error
|14:50||bobby_C has joined #ltsp|
|15:08||Selveste1 has joined #ltsp|
rjune, yes, I just added the lib.
I think I need to install a package libs
rjune: where do I download build enviroment?
|15:16||vagrantc has joined #ltsp|
|15:17||irule has quit IRC|
|15:27||marius-- has quit IRC|
Uhm, used to be on the website
realistically anything you try to b uild for ltsp should be within the ltsp build environment
|15:42||vagrantc has quit IRC|
|15:50||dirigeant has joined #ltsp|
|15:58||spectra has quit IRC|
|15:59||mamboloco has quit IRC|
|15:59||lucy has quit IRC|
|16:07||litlebuda has joined #ltsp|
|16:37||johnny has joined #ltsp|
|16:42||twinprism has joined #ltsp|
|16:42||lucascoala has joined #ltsp|
|16:46||Shingoshi has joined #ltsp|
|16:53||vagrantc has joined #ltsp|
|16:57||Remaille has quit IRC|
|17:01||Gadi has joined #ltsp|
|17:01||Gadi1 has quit IRC|
|17:03||vagrantc has joined #ltsp|
|17:05||Jonathan_JLS has joined #ltsp|
|17:09||rjent has quit IRC|
|17:10||Shingoshi_ has joined #ltsp|
|17:12||davidl_ has joined #ltsp|
|17:16||dirigeant has quit IRC|
|17:16||MeW__ has joined #ltsp|
|17:26||rjent has joined #ltsp|
|17:38||twinprism has quit IRC|
|17:40||Shingoshi has quit IRC|
|17:41||Shingoshi has joined #ltsp|
|17:42||litlebuda has quit IRC|
|17:43||litlebuda has joined #ltsp|
looking for tips on nfs-swap on ltsp5 for a P133 client.
|17:43||Shingoshi_ has quit IRC|
however I'm not sure this is going to solve my problem
|17:44||bobby_C has quit IRC|
(actually, the tip I'm looking for is how to enable nfs-swap)
why not nbd swap?
uhh... no reason
except that I don't know what I'm doing... and ltsp wiki talked about nfs-swap for older clients
NBD is built into most kernels, NFS swap requires crazy kernel patches
|17:46||The_Code_ is now known as The_Code|
vagrantc: "docs" is For the most current documentation, see http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LtspDocumentationUpstream
davidl_: hopefully there's something there about NBD swap
sweet. thank you!
rjune_: knock, knock.
Gadi: Are you around?
|17:58||Jonathan_JLS has quit IRC|
|17:59||MeW__ is now known as MeW_away|
|18:09||Nubae has quit IRC|
|18:10||Nubae has joined #ltsp|
|18:15||cliebow_ has joined #ltsp|
|18:15||MeW__ has joined #ltsp|
|18:16||litlebuda has quit IRC|
|18:20||davidl_ has quit IRC|
|18:22||DarKnesS_WolF has quit IRC|
|18:39||litlebuda has joined #ltsp|
|18:41||MeW_away has quit IRC|
|18:53||litlebuda has quit IRC|
|18:53||Lns has quit IRC|
|18:54||staffencasa has quit IRC|
|18:55||litlebuda has joined #ltsp|
|19:23||MeW___ has joined #ltsp|
|19:23||MeW___ is now known as MeW_away|
|19:23||tarbo_ has joined #ltsp|
|19:27||cliebow_ has quit IRC|
|19:36||tarbo has quit IRC|
|19:36||vagrantc has quit IRC|
|19:48||MeW__ has quit IRC|
|20:10||litlebuda has quit IRC|
|21:07||Nubae has quit IRC|
|21:14||try2free has joined #ltsp|
|21:18||Nubae has joined #ltsp|
|21:52||try2free has left #ltsp|
|21:57||alekibango has quit IRC|
|22:28||alkisg has joined #ltsp|
|23:00||alkisg has quit IRC|
|23:01||CaScAdE^1arAway has joined #ltsp|
|23:02||alkisg has joined #ltsp|
|23:18||faustino333 has quit IRC|
|23:18||CaScAdE^FarAway has quit IRC|
|23:19||faustino333 has joined #ltsp|
|23:47||alkisg has quit IRC|
|23:50||shrek has joined #ltsp|
|23:53||zirconiumks has joined #ltsp|