IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 17 December 2014   (all times are UTC)

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08:34
<ame>
Can anybody tell me that a board name arduino is detected in my server and it is not detecting by the clients
08:36
<alkisg>
Are you using fat clients?
08:36
<ame>
yes
08:36
i connected the board using USB
08:37
<alkisg>
Run `udevadm monitor` in a fat client, then connect arduino, then put the output to pastebin
08:40
<ame>
Is it possible to install Libre office to run locally??
08:41
<alkisg>
Sure
08:42
<ame>
After i installed mozilla in chroot and make it to run locally.my server shortcut of mozilla is not working
08:44
<alkisg>
If you are using fat clients you don't have a server shortcut for mozilla
08:45
Maybe you mean localapps instead of fat clients
08:45
<ame>
nothing is coming after i run udevadm monitor in clients computer.Its showing UDEV - the event which udev sends out after rule processing KERNEL - the kernel uevent
08:45
yes local apps
08:45
<alkisg>
Did you connect the arduino board after running udevadm?
08:46
Stop using localapps then, they are too difficult for you to manage them, and switch to fat clients:
08:46
!ltsp-pnp
08:46
<ltsp`>
ltsp-pnp: ltsp-pnp is an alternative (upstream) method to maintain LTSP installations for thin and fat clients that doesn't involve chroots: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ltsp-pnp
08:46
<alkisg>
!fatclients
08:46
<ltsp`>
fatclients: You may find some info about the Ubuntu/LTSP implementation of fat clients at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/FatClients
08:47
<ame>
yes i connected the board
08:48
<alkisg>
ame: you have thin clients, not fat clients
08:49
You need to run `ltsp-localapps xterm` first, and then run udevadm inside that xterm
08:49
Thin clients with localapps are too difficult for you, stop using them, switch to fat clients
08:50
<ame>
but i have install this arduino board in my server and i make some two application only to run in local
08:51
If i give udevadm monitor in xterm its showing command not found
08:51
<alkisg>
Then you don't have it installed in the chroot
08:51
<ame>
no
08:51
<alkisg>
ame: switch to fat clients
08:51
It'll be much easier for you
08:52
<ame>
In the sense
08:52
<alkisg>
LTSP fat clients, they are netbooted
08:52
They don't need hard disks
08:52
<ame>
yes offcourse my clients are also netbooted and no hardisk
08:52
<alkisg>
Do you understand this sentence? "stop using localapps and thin clients, and create a new chroot for fat clients"
08:53
<ame>
tell me some commands for me to check whether i am using thin client or fat client
08:54
<alkisg>
You are using thin clients
08:54
<ame>
ok
08:54
<alkisg>
arm: on the server: ls /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/xsessions/
08:55
<ame>
how to switch to fat clients??/If i switch to fat clients will my thin client device works??
08:55
<alkisg>
To switch to fat clients you need to read those wiki pages:
08:55
!ltsp-pnp
08:55
<ltsp`>
ltsp-pnp: ltsp-pnp is an alternative (upstream) method to maintain LTSP installations for thin and fat clients that doesn't involve chroots: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ltsp-pnp
08:55
<alkisg>
!fatclients
08:55
<ltsp`>
fatclients: You may find some info about the Ubuntu/LTSP implementation of fat clients at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/FatClients
08:55
<ame>
ls: cannot access /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/xsessions/: No such file or directory
08:55
<alkisg>
To see if your thin client device will work, tell us its CPU and RAM
08:55
How much RAM do your thin clients have?
08:56
(10:55:24 πμ) ame: ls: cannot access /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/xsessions/: No such file or directory ==> that means you're using THIN clients
08:56
<ame>
ok
08:57
but my mozilla and a software name freecad is working on my clients by taking clients RAM memory and not server memory
08:57
<alkisg>
(10:55:47 πμ) alkisg: How much RAM do your thin clients have?
08:58
<ame>
i have 10 computers and two thin client device.All booted in PXE boot
08:58
10 computers having 2GB RAM
08:58
<alkisg>
Those 10 computers will work better as fat clients than as thin clients
08:58
<ame>
And the 2 thin client device with 512 MB RAM
08:59
<alkisg>
Those 2 computers will work as fat clients, but they will be a bit slow
08:59
<ame>
And hereafter my management plans to purchase only thin clients
08:59
<alkisg>
Buy better thin clients with 2 GB RAM
08:59
<ame>
ok
08:59
<alkisg>
Read the wiki pages I said above ^
09:00
<ame>
so i need to configure my server again from first
09:00
??
09:00
<alkisg>
No
09:00
<ame>
Then??
09:00
<alkisg>
Read
09:00
Read wiki
09:00
Read wiki
09:00
OK? :)
09:00
<ame>
ok
09:01
and one more doubt At my present environment some of my computers desktop takes time for desktop to load fully
09:01
Other clients loading like normal computer
09:02
why it takes time??
09:02
<alkisg>
Try fat clients first and solve problems later
09:02
<ame>
ok
09:03
for arduino board also this is the solution??
09:03
<alkisg>
Yes
09:03
<ame>
ok then
09:03
<alkisg>
Read ltsp-pnp first. If it suits you, use that one. If not, use fatclients.
09:03
<ame>
ok
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13:30
<valeriobozzolan>
I have to report that the wiki.ltsp.org server is down
13:30
Since yesterday at least
13:45
<Hyperbyte>
Should be up again now.
13:45
<valeriobozzolan>
Wow
13:46
Sorry, what about arm thin clients?
13:46
I have to generate an arm image on the LTSP server?
13:47
Or I can only push on my arm device, a microsystem that know the LTSP IP?
13:47
(In order to avoid PXE, right?)
13:48
<Hyperbyte>
I have no idea
13:48
!pi
13:48
<ltsp`>
Error: "pi" is not a valid command.
13:48
<Hyperbyte>
!raspberrypi
13:48
<ltsp`>
raspberrypi: (#1) LTSP with raspberry pi: http://cascadia.debian.net/trenza/Documentation/raspberrypi-ltsp-howto/, or (#2) To use a similar environment to LTSP on the raspberry pi http://berryterminal.com/, or (#3) https://github.com/gbaman/RaspberryPi-LTSP, or (#4) https://pi-ltsp.net
13:48
<Hyperbyte>
!arm
13:48
<ltsp`>
I do not know about 'arm', but I do know about these similar topics: 'a', 'ask'
13:48
<Hyperbyte>
Well at least that's something.
13:51
<valeriobozzolan>
Hyperbyte: OK thanks. So there is no necessity to build an arm image, right? Because the tftp server does not operare?
13:52
Hyperbyte: There is only the necessity to have a microsystem arm yet installed on the arm devices I think
13:52
I think is what RaspberryPi-LTSP do
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21:29
<epoptes_user6>
Is ther any English user guide .pdf file any where on how to use the software
21:31
<vagrantc>
for epoptes?
21:31
epoptes_user6: all i know about is: http://www.epoptes.org/documentation
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