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Channel log from 15 October 2009   (all times are UTC)

00:00
<garyj>
Is an lts.conf file necessary? I ask this question because my LTSP clients fail to boot and I don't remember seeing this file in my /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386 director.
00:01
<johnny>
no
00:01
if it's not booting.. it is cuz of something else..
00:01
perhaps the lack of a specific lts.conf.. but i don't need one at my install
00:02
specific lts.conf variable that is..
00:02
but in general you don't need one
00:02
<garyj>
Thanks. So after 2 days of trying to get my Ubuntu 9.04 system running I still don't have an answer.
00:06
<johnny>
why won't it boot?
00:08
<garyj>
That is the $64,000 question.
00:08
<johnny>
errors?
00:08
just saying it won't boot.. doesn't really help..
00:09
<garyj>
The Ubuntu boot screen appears and the bar moves across the screen as usual, but then an error appears (can't remember exactly what it is) and then it drops to a shell login prompt.
00:10
I'm not at the system right now so I'll have to get more details tomorrow when I'm at work.
00:10
The error was something about a "card".
00:11
Then, of course, other errors followed.
00:11
<johnny>
perhaps it means you don't have the network card drivers?
00:11
in the initramfs
00:11
that does happen occasionally, you can rebuild it ti include it
00:12
you can remove quiet and splash from /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.cfg/default to see the entire boot process
00:12
<garyj>
I've used this same equipment with 8.04
00:13
<johnny>
it's possible drivers could be removed.. altho probably not the case in your situation
00:13
write down all the errors and come back
00:13
<garyj>
That will be about 10 hours from now. I'll just have to sleep on it tonight.
00:14
Thanks
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00:27
<samuel>
hi, i'm trying to access my usb thumb drive thats conneted to a thin-client from Gnome or KDE what do i need to setup to accomplish this?
00:33
<alkisg_work>
samuel: distro/version?
00:35
<samuel>
jaunty
00:35
alkisg_work, but am using hardy at the moment.. but planning to deploy my setup on jaunty
00:36
<alkisg_work>
They should work out of the box with gnome
00:36
(both on hardy and jaunty)
00:38
<samuel>
alkisg_work, thanks, whats the technology behind it? nbd?
00:38
<alkisg_work>
ltspfs / ltspfsd
00:38
!source
00:38
<ltspbot>
alkisg_work: My source is at http://supybot.com/
00:38
<alkisg_work>
Bah :(
00:38
<samuel>
or is it an smb server like nomachine implementation
00:39
<alkisg_work>
!learn source as The LTSP code is at https://code.launchpad.net/~ltsp-upstream
00:39
<ltspbot>
alkisg_work: The operation succeeded.
00:39
<alkisg_work>
!source
00:39
<ltspbot>
alkisg_work: My source is at http://supybot.com/
00:39
<alkisg_work>
!forget source 1
00:39
<ltspbot>
alkisg_work: The operation succeeded.
00:39
<alkisg_work>
!source
00:39
<ltspbot>
alkisg_work: My source is at http://supybot.com/
00:39
<alkisg_work>
!forget source 1
00:39
<ltspbot>
alkisg_work: Error: There is no such factoid.
00:40
<alkisg_work>
!forget source 2
00:40
<ltspbot>
alkisg_work: Error: There is no such factoid.
00:40
<alkisg_work>
!source
00:40
<ltspbot>
alkisg_work: My source is at http://supybot.com/
00:40
<alkisg_work>
Hmmm it's hardcoded
00:40
samuel: ltspfs / ltspfsd is a fuse file system specifically written for ltsp
00:40
https://code.launchpad.net/~ltsp-upstream/ltspfs/ltspfs-trunk
00:41
<samuel>
alkisg_work, nice.. its been a while since i've used ltsp.. since the fiesty fawn days
00:42
<alkisg_work>
Did that use ltsp 4.2?
00:42
<samuel>
sound exciting..
00:42
<alkisg_work>
5.0 is (afaik) a complete rewrite of ltsp...
00:43
<samuel>
i'm planing on replacing the proprietary software that comes installed on our thinclient terminals (Futro - Fujitsu-Siemens Via Eden Terminal)
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00:44
<samuel>
at the moment they run something similar to an 2x implementation. i prefer ltsp though - more free, more open
00:45
<alkisg_work>
Does the 2x implementation include support for sound, usb sticks, cd-roms etc?
00:49
<samuel>
yep
00:49
it has a web interface where you can manage the terminal profiles, e.g. to configure specific drivers to a terminal
00:50
or specific display config, and printers etc.. its quite nice.. i would like to get involved in the ltsp project, i'm a developer
00:51
mainly Qt/KDE but also have experience with many windows platform too
00:52
<alkisg_work>
It'd be nice to have a developer that uses KDE in the ltsp team :
00:52
:
00:52
:) (damn keyboard)
00:52
samuel: but you should come back here in 10 hours or so, when the devs are around...
00:52
(= U.S. mornings)
00:54* vagrantc waves
00:54
<alkisg_work>
Ah, here's an "evening person" ^^^ :D
00:57
<johnny>
well.. you should upgrade before tryin to get your bug fixed..
00:57
vagrantc, !!!!
00:57
i wanna come visit :(
00:59
<vagrantc>
johnny: what's holding you back?
01:00
<johnny>
guess..
01:00
<vagrantc>
fear of a pacific tidal wave?
01:01
i wish i could've made it to the LTSP BTS
01:01
<samuel>
ok.. in the mean time i'll install and try out some ltsp terminals on jaunty
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01:02
<samuel>
thanx alkisg_work
01:02
<alkisg_work>
You're welcome :)
01:03
<johnny>
i only need 3800 guest rewards points..
01:03
for a free trip there..
01:03
the coming back will be more difficult .. :)
01:03
<alkisg_work>
You could help setup LTSP in the ship computers :P :D
01:04
<johnny>
ship?
01:05
<alkisg_work>
Well, I don't think planes would have enough computers to justify ltsp... :D
01:05
<johnny>
it'd be train..
01:05
<alkisg_work>
(ok ok /me stops joking)
01:06
<johnny>
alkisg_work, something like this .. altho it is a car route..
01:07
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=baltimore,+md&daddr=45.73686,-108.632812+to:portland,+or&hl=en&geocode=&mra=dpe&mrcr=0&mrsp=1&sz=5&via=1&sll=40.010787,-100.986328&sspn=21.636423,53.217773&ie=UTF8&z=5
01:07
<alkisg_work>
Woah, how long does that take on train?
01:07
<johnny>
about 3 days
01:08
<alkisg_work>
Seems like a really good trip to take by car, though..
01:08
<johnny>
if you own one :)
01:08
travelling by train is cheaper than driving if you go by yourself
01:08
driving is cheaper with a 2nd or 3rd person
01:09* alkisg_work also wishes he could make such a trip... :(
01:09
<johnny>
renting a car, gas, tolls, etc..
01:09
<alkisg_work>
My wife got to the US last year for 1.5 month, and described it to me with the best words...
01:09
<johnny>
you wait something like 6 hours in chicago for the 2nd train
01:12
<alkisg_work>
...anyone cares for a summer house exchange? :D
01:28
<johnny>
what's the best words?
01:31
<vagrantc>
alkisg_work: if i had a house! :)
01:31
<alkisg_work>
Heh!!!
01:31* alkisg_work hopes he'll get selected sometime to teach in greek students in the US for 5 years...
01:33
<johnny>
vagrantc, it's just money why i can't come out there yet
01:33
somebody is trying to bring me out there by christmas
01:36
<alkisg_work>
(non-LTSP related): Is there any hard limit to sshd that blocks connections, if more than 10 of the occur simultaneously? Using clusterssh, I get scp something from the server on 10 of the clients, but the other 2 get "connection closed by remote host". If I try them again with just those 2, it works fine...
01:36
*them
01:36
...and *can (instead of get)
01:38
<johnny>
not a hard hard limit
01:38
you'd have to look at the config file..
01:38
i've never tried
01:38
or looked for such a var
01:39* alkisg_work can't find any such option...
01:39
<johnny>
try on a different machine maybe?
01:39
<alkisg_work>
Wouldn't that affect LDM_AUTOLOGIN for more than 10 concurrent clients?
01:39
<johnny>
sounds like it
01:39* alkisg_work googles...
01:39
<johnny>
you should perhaps try stracing it
01:39
or even just look at the regular log
01:40
<alkisg_work>
Uhm, or maybe /me just looks at the man page and finds "MaxStartups" ==> with a default value of 10... ;)
01:40
<johnny>
lol
01:40
there ya go.. :)
01:40
<alkisg_work>
OK we should write that somewhere in a wiki, it may affect ltsp users logging on simultaneously
01:40
<johnny>
just like magic
01:41
haven't hard of probelms so far
01:41
you'd think we would have b now
01:42
<alkisg_work>
Hmmmm yeah it only happens when more than 10 users have given the username, but not the password yet
01:42
So that doesn't happen with LDM_AUTOLOGIN... (both are given at almost the same time)
01:42
<johnny>
ah..
01:42
<alkisg_work>
So if it (rarely) happens in a classroom, the student will just think he mistyped his password
01:42
<johnny>
but looks like it might affect some people.. but only in a such a small way that they never report bugs on it
01:42
as they try again and it just works..
01:42
ah .. yes :)
01:42
<alkisg_work>
Right
01:43
<johnny>
alkisg_work, good catch
01:51
<pacifica>
sbalneav: the "ugly trick" doesn't work for Ubuntu 8.04 LTS (website confirms it works for 9.04)
01:51
so I guess I might need to write a script to start updating all those primary groups....
01:51
signing off... later!
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05:03
<din_os>
how can I add firefox extentions for all users for new extentions that don't exist in synaptic?
05:11
<alkisg_work>
din_os: I don't know of any standard way to do that, but which ones? If it's a common one, maybe we can request it to be packaged by a motu (or debian developer etc)...
05:13
<din_os>
hmm, downthemall should be there, also video-downloadhelper
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06:39
<ftherese1>
I am having trouble with ltsp sound
06:39
I can never figure out how to make sure the sound come out on the client and not the server
06:39
sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't
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06:59
<leOn>
hello
07:00
i've read in the ltsp-developer list about a patch to support nomad ... is this been included in ltsp 5 already ?
07:06
<cyberorg>
leOn, it is included on opensuse 11.1, but support will be dropped in 11.2
07:07
<leOn>
hmm .. why? .. is it broken?
07:07
<cyberorg>
leOn, http://en.opensuse.org/LTSP/Nomad
07:08
leOn, it depended on heavily forked xrdp, dmx2 etc, that cant keep pace with upstream xorg development, so till the patches are merged it looks unlikely it will be there in 11.2
07:08
<leOn>
well .. the thing is that fro what i read, nomad would allow me to have a select box or similar in the ldm splash screen, allowing me to choose between linux (through remote X) or windows (through rdesktop)
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07:09
<leOn>
if there is another way to achieve that, that's fine by me
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07:09
<cyberorg>
leOn, nomad is not for that, you can do that, but not from LDM, but via lts.conf
07:10
<leOn>
but that won't force users to have to select login consoles with alt+F* key combination?
07:11
i.e. .. different login consoles for different sessions, instead of a single login console with a chooser
07:13
<cyberorg>
leOn, different sessions on different tty, not from LDM, it would be nice though, up for creating a patch for LDM? :)
07:14
<leOn>
ok ... could you point me the docs on how to set things in different tty?
07:14
i'll think about that chooser patch along the way =)
07:14
<cyberorg>
leOn, in /topic
07:14
!docs
07:14
<ltspbot>
cyberorg: "docs" is For the most current documentation, see http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LtspDocumentationUpstream
07:15
<cyberorg>
leOn, SCREEN_07=ldm, SCREEN_08=rdesktop something like that
07:16
<leOn>
my main problem about the patch is that i've never coded stuff for UIs
07:16
=)
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08:32
<leOn>
hmmm .. in the ldm source, in gtkgreet i see a reference to combo box support ...
08:33
including some text with "Select the host for your session to use"
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08:51
<cyberorg>
leOn, that is to select different LDM_SERVER
08:54
<sbalneav>
le0n: why not simply start ldm on one tty, and an rdesktop session on another? Then users would just have to ctl-alt-f7 or ctl-alt-f8 to switch between the two, and in fact, could be logged into both at once, if they desire.
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09:07
<leOn>
sbalneav: you'd be surprised how hard it would be for most of my users to perform a crtl+alt+f* key press ...
09:09
a radio button box or pull down menu to select which session to start would be ideal ...
09:10
<sbalneav>
Well, happy programming :)
09:10
Send us patches :)
09:11
<leOn>
looking at the gtk tutorial .. trying to decide if it's worth the effort =)
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09:19
<leOn>
hmm .. wtf is K12LINUX ?
09:19
<cliebow>
it is eharrisons rendition of 4.2 in redhat
09:19
<sbalneav>
K12Linux is a fedora based distro.
09:20
No, they're using LTSP5 now, afaik
09:20
morning cliebow
09:20
<cliebow>
i see..Hey Captain!! lookin goforward to9 seeing you!!
09:20
<sbalneav>
Yes! I'm looking forward to seeing your new house!
09:20* cliebow cliebow moves bagel to get at keyboard
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<cliebow>
wherefore art thou Gadi??
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10:55
<jhutchins_lt>
(II) SIS(0): Not using mode "1440x900" (no mode of this name) Why?
10:56
How do I get it to re-generate it's xorg.conf file?
10:59
<johnny>
it does it on every boot..
11:00
you might want to try tweaking CONFIGURE_X=Y or N
11:00
not surewhat is the default on the version of the distro you're using..
11:00
<alkisg>
jhutchins_lt: distro/version?
11:00
<jhutchins_lt>
Current debian. Not sure how to check the ltsp version.
11:00
<johnny>
alkisg, perhaps we need a wikipage that describes the changes
11:01
like when we changed CONFIGURE_X
11:01
!ver
11:01
<ltspbot>
johnny: "ver" is to get version info on debian/ubuntu (please use the pastebot): dpkg -l 'ltsp*' 'ldm*' | awk '/^ii/{print $2,$3}' ; dpkg --root=/opt/ltsp/i386 -l 'ltsp*' ldm | awk '/^ii/{print $2,$3}'
11:01
<johnny>
but we didn't change CONFIGURE_X equally on all versions
11:01
<alkisg>
johnny: right, an lts.conf wiki page annotated per distro / version...
11:01
<johnny>
i couldn't use CONFIGURE_X at all from the beginning
11:01
as it was broken for me on gentoo
11:02
<jhutchins_lt>
Looks like 5.1
11:02
<johnny>
and it was something like 6-12 months later that it changed for debian/ubuntu
11:02
<alkisg>
jhutchins_lt: does your xorg log report the detected horizontal and vertical timings for the monitor?
11:02
<johnny>
whoa.. it got cold...
11:03
<alkisg>
CONFIGURE_X was around hardy time... but I think it wasn't in any of the stable debian versions...
11:05
<jhutchins_lt>
So what does "CONFIGURE_X=False" do then?
11:05
<johnny>
F maens it lets xorg.conf figure it oiut
11:05
<jhutchins_lt>
I have CONFIGURE_X_COMMAND=/etc/configure-x-xdebconfigurator
11:05
<johnny>
out*
11:05
uhmm.. try witout that
11:06
CONFIGURE_X was more needed before x could generate a working config on its own
11:06
but it has been able to do pretty good for the past year or so
11:07
<ogra>
xdebconfigurator ?
11:07
i thought that was dropped long ago
11:07
<jhutchins_lt>
D'Oh! Rebooted the server instead of the client!
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11:21
<garyj_>
Can anyone assist me? I have new installation of Ubuntu 9.04 and the clients don't complete the boot process ...
11:22
They fail at Starting LTSP client. Invalid card number. Then drop to shell prompt with screen blinking on and off.
11:22
That seems to be regardless of differing hardware.
11:22
<sbalneav>
Real clients, or virtual clients
11:22
<garyj_>
real
11:23
The same hardware worked with 8.04
11:23
<sbalneav>
ok, what kind of clients? What kind of video card, network card, processor, memory, etc. do they have?
11:24
<garyj_>
Different clients have different hardware environment.
11:24
<johnny>
invalid card number?
11:24
garyj_, did you remove quiet and splash?
11:24
<garyj_>
That's what the error message says.
11:24
yes
11:24
<johnny>
looks like you're gnna have to write out more of the messages that happened before that
11:24
and then put them here
11:24
!pastebot
11:24
<ltspbot>
johnny: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. A link to the content will be pasted in the channel.
11:25
<garyj_>
Will do that. Thanks.
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11:38
<ltsppbot>
"garyj" pasted "Ubuntu 9.04 clients don't complete boot process" (15 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/584
11:39
<johnny>
a simple web search told me that the invalid card number thing is your sound
11:40
did you recreate the chroot after upgrading garyj_ ?
11:40
<garyj_>
yes
11:40
This wasn't a simple upgrade. The hard drive crashed and it was a fresh install
11:41
on a new drive
11:41
<alkisg>
garyj_: first, stop using etherboot, and use it's successor, pxe
11:41
second, I think it's a video problem - so try XSERVER=vesa in lts.conf
11:41
*gpxe
11:41
!gpxe
11:41
<ltspbot>
alkisg: "gpxe" is the successor to etherboot. You can find it at: http://etherboot.org/wiki/index.php
11:41
<alkisg>
!rom-o-matic
11:42
<ltspbot>
alkisg: Error: "rom-o-matic" is not a valid command.
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11:42
<garyj_>
Frankly, I'm not sure what's on these boot floppies as they were made before I arrived on the scene.
11:42
<alkisg>
Just get there : http://rom-o-matic.net/ and download new floppie
11:43
Anyway, try the XSERVER=vesa thing first...
11:43
<garyj_>
They worked fine with 8.04. Why wouldn't they work OK with 9.04
11:43
<alkisg>
Because of different video drivers?
11:43
<garyj_>
I'll try that.
11:43
<alkisg>
sudo gedit /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/i386/lts.conf => and put:
11:43
[Default]
11:43
XSERVER=vesa
11:44
<garyj_>
OD
11:44
OK
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11:47
<garyj_>
Created lts.conf and inserted the above mentioned lines. No change.
11:47
Still fails in exactly the same manner.
11:49
<alkisg>
garyj_: is the screen still blinking?
11:50
<garyj_>
Yikes! One of the clients just completed the boot process even though it gave me those same error messages. But I'll reboot it just to make sure.
11:50
<johnny>
invalid card has to do with your sound
11:50
and the invalid pipe .. i still get that and it isn't fatal
11:50
so it sounds like the problem is that it is trying to start x.. but can't find a driver
11:50
or the driver is bad..
11:51
<alkisg>
garyj_: yes, you have more than one problems, but the screen blinking usually means a bad xorg driver / autodetection etc
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11:52
<jhutchins_lt>
Well, that's interesting, now we get "Frequency out of range" from the monitor...
11:52
<garyj_>
The clients are all booting OK now even though those same error messages appear. They boot rather slowly but they're booting!
11:53
<alkisg>
garyj_: now, logon, run: ltsp-localapps xterm, and run lspci there to see the hardware
11:53
<garyj_>
OK
11:53
<alkisg>
Both graphics card & sound card probably have problems..
11:54
jhutchins_lt: try to define specific X_HORZSYNC and X_VERTREFRESH for your monitor
11:54
(in lts.conf)
11:54
<jhutchins_lt>
Yeah, well, at least we got that far.
11:54
grrr. no "less"?
11:55
no ntpdate...
11:55
<ogra>
what distro is that ?
11:56
ubuntu surely has both
11:56
<jhutchins_lt>
Debian.
11:56
This is from the terminal.
11:56
I think I need to chroot on the server and update/install packages.
11:56
<ogra>
yeah, debians minimal install is *really* minimal :)
11:56
<johnny>
i don't think it is that minimal?
11:57
coreutils must incluce less
11:57
<ogra>
far smaller than the ubuntu.minimal metapackage
11:57
<johnny>
now.. if you're in the initramfs shell
11:57
you might not have less
11:57
<ogra>
indeed
11:57
<johnny>
only more..
11:57
<ogra>
initramfs is only busybox with ten possible commands or so
11:57
<johnny>
ogra, seriously.. i really doubt less isn't in debian
11:57
jhutchins_lt, i think you're doing it from the wrong shell?
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<ogra>
johnny, in the *minimal* chroot
11:58
<johnny>
i doubt they patched coreutils to remove less
11:58
just for ltsp
11:58
<jhutchins_lt>
johnny: Quite possibly, I'm connected to the terminal's IP via SSH.
11:58
<johnny>
i guess i'd have to actually have a debian box to tell tho..
11:59
<ogra>
less is in its own package
11:59
not in coreutils
11:59
<johnny>
oh.. really?
11:59
<jhutchins_lt>
1120 commands available.
11:59
<johnny>
weird.. ok
11:59
weirdo..
11:59
that is minimal :(
11:59
i should try vanilla debian some day ago
11:59
again*
11:59
been uhm..7 years or so..
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<jhutchins_lt>
Yes, less is not installed.
11:59
Nor is ntp.
12:00
Ok, I'll update the chroot and see what we get then.
12:04
With 5.1, what do I need to do for a new kernel?
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<johnny>
install it however you would normally install it? except in a the chroot?
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<jhutchins_lt>
Seeing as there's a whole new xorg, this may address the original problem.
12:09
johnny: Ok, there used to be mojo that had to be done server-side, something like generating a new boot image or something.
12:12
<alkisg>
ltsp-update-kernels
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jhutchins_lt: ^^
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<talntid>
hi all.
12:15
i have a ltsp environment, and everything is working great... except at the moment, there are a few machines i can't ssh to or vncviewer to...
12:15
any ideas how else i could get to them?
12:15
most work fine, a few dont
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<jhutchins_lt>
alkisg: Do that from chroot or from server root?
12:15
<alkisg>
jhutchins_lt: after you update the kernels in the chroot, you run ltsp-update-kernels from outside the chroot, to transfer the new kernels to the /var/lib/tftpboot dir
12:15
<jhutchins_lt>
talntid: You're sure they're up and on the network?
12:15
<talntid>
yep
12:16
they are logged on and doing work
12:16
<alkisg>
talntid: did you install sshd in the chroot?
12:16
<talntid>
yes
12:16
most of them work fine
12:16
some do not
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<jhutchins_lt>
alkisg: k, and that's still valid for 5.1, right/
12:16
?
12:16
<alkisg>
Debian Lenny?
12:16
What's 5.1?
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<jhutchins_lt>
LTSP version. Yes Lenny.
12:17
what's ltsp-update-image for?
12:17
<alkisg>
Yes, I believe so.
12:17
<ogra>
used by distros that use nbd instead of nfs
12:17
<alkisg>
ltsp-update-image is when you use nbd images
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<jhutchins_lt>
alkisg: How would I know whether or not I do?
12:18
<alkisg>
Right, debian is able to use nbd, but uses nfs by default
12:18
<jhutchins_lt>
k, we'll assume not then.
12:18
<alkisg>
jhutchins_lt: well with debian you'd knew it if you did :)
12:18
<jhutchins_lt>
nfs didn't start when the server rebooted, and the terminal complained, so I'm clearly nfs.
12:18
Ok, reboot client again.
12:19
<talntid>
from the server, can i issue a command as if it was being issued on the thin client?
12:20
<alkisg>
To make it show up on the client screen? Not easily...
12:20
<talntid>
no
12:20
i want to start x11vncserver
12:21
<alkisg>
Yeah, we're saying the same thing. You'd need to run it inside the user's X session, that's not easy.
12:21
<talntid>
hrm
12:21
<jhutchins_lt>
One of the vnc servers has a loadable x module; you simply configure it in xorg.conf.
12:21
for display 0.
12:24
Let's see what the client's doing now...
12:26
Blinking cursor in upper left corner, not responsibe to keyboard.
12:27
Don't you just love these linux oddesys that begin "I'll just make this one little tweak..."?
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<jhutchins_lt>
Uh oh, no shell.
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<jhutchins_lt>
Well, with xdebconfiguratior, I at least get a shell, although video is clearly out of sync.
12:31
failed to load module sis.
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<jhutchins_lt>
Woo! I can see the DM from here!
12:34
(Why isn't it doing auto-login?)
12:35
I have LDM_USERNAME/LDM_PASSWORD
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<johnny>
do you have LDM_AUTOLOGIN ?
12:36
otherwise you can just login as guest account
12:36
using those parameters that is..
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<jhutchins_lt>
johnny: Nope, maybe that's it.
12:36
I did get the resolution I was after though.
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<jhutchins_lt>
johnny: LDM_AUTOLOGIN=Y?
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<jhutchins_lt>
Sadly, the new resolution has all kinds of video artifacts.
12:43
<johnny>
jhutchins_lt, i think so.. see lts-parameters.txt.gz for details
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<jhutchins_lt>
Yeah, that fixed it.
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<jontheisguy>
anyone here?
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<jontheisguy>
hewllo
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<jontheisguy>
hello
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<sbalneav>
Evening all
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<jammcq>
Scotty !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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<sbalneav>
Hey jammcq!
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