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Channel log from 20 February 2007   (all times are UTC)

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<mathesis>
sh3mh4mf0r4sh: jai
00:33
hi
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<erdinc>
hi ogra
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<cryptom>
hi all, a few months ago I setup a ltsp server, its works well so far. Now, I realized, there is a new kernel installed in the ltsp server. How can I make sure the clients can also use a new kernel?
05:25
<sep>
cryptom, depends on your ltsp version, i use ltsp-update-kernels in ltsp5
05:27
<cryptom>
ok, I tried that, but I dont think it worked. I use ubuntu-server (edgy)
05:29
sep, no, I dont have ltsp5, can I get that with ubuntu packages?
05:31
sep, ltsp-server package 0.124
05:37
I saw that ltsp-update-kernels copies the kernel for /opt/ltsp/i386 to the tftp root. how do I put the current kernel in /opt/ltsp/i386?
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<slipttees>
hi all
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<sep>
cryptom, i guess you chroot into itm, and install it using the package tools there
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<cryptom>
sep, oh god, yes. Now I remember... first, I wanted to install all the software in the chroot... now I even forgot to install the most basic thing there... thanks
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
buenas
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<jammcq>
g'morning
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
oh forgot :)
07:45
g'morning
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<Luis>
jammcq?
09:06
I have a problem, can you help me?
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<Luis>
the DHCP server detect the request, respond with an IP, but the terminal do not recive it. What is the problem?
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<mighty-d>
hi, im having some problems in my thin clients, it seems i can't start firefox in two clients...
09:57
whenever firefox is running in a different user it states: "firefox is already running but its not responding..."
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
hey.. my ltsp 4.2 at debian works cool cool.. but have a little things to wrong
10:45
when i boot 1st time..
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serve try to up the XWindoes (gdm)
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and fail
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so the process has been waiting...
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my clients stay at gray screen
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when i accept the error of X
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then server go to login
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aat shell
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...then my clients can join to gdm
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how can i fix this fails? when start server not run gdm....
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<irule>
sh3mh4mf0r4sh install KDM and configure that one to manage greeters
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<petre>
greetings
10:53
<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
but i with kdm?
10:53
i use gdm! :|
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
i think to gdm can't load driver
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and that put stand by process when server start
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any way i type ENTER | TAB | ENTER | ENTER and works all fin ..
10:54
fine*
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<iloadmin>
hi all
11:03
I am using ubuntu edgy eft
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<CaPRiCorN^80>
hi petre
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<petre>
hi CaPRiCorN^80
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<CaPRiCorN^80>
how r u ?
11:13
<petre>
tired: was up until 2am applying patches on some Sun boxes
11:13* petre is not nocturnal
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<CaPRiCorN^80>
ok
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<petre>
but, with the help of #ltsp, I got my sound issues resolved!
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<CaPRiCorN^80>
but dont leave . i m also reall tired but got here to ask u abot that sound thing
11:14
well right sun really make life hell some times
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<petre>
I'll try, though I'm no sound guru
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<CaPRiCorN^80>
as u told about lsmod
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i did that in office and got output i.e
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<petre>
did it show a sound module having been loaded?
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<CaPRiCorN^80>
wat i did was lsmod | grep snd
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n this is the output
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lsmod | grep snd
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snd_pcm_oss 51488 0
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snd_pcm 87560 9 snd_pcm_oss
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snd_time 24452 1 snd_pcm
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snd_page_alloc 10504 1 snd_pcm
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snd_mixer_oss 17980 1 snd_pcm_0ss
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snd 53120 snd_pcm_oss , snd_pcm , snd_timer , snd_mixer_oss
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soundcore 10336 2 snd,sound
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<petre>
was there anything for snd_ac97_codec?
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<CaPRiCorN^80>
and
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<petre>
That's where I see my driver listed
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<CaPRiCorN^80>
lsmod | grep sound
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sound 80016 1 uart 401
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soundcore 10336 2 snd,sound
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well i pasted all wat i got using lsmod
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<petre>
I don't see anything that looks like the base driver, just the stuff that depends on the driver
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OTOH, I'm not sure if that stuff would load if a driver were not present
11:20
did you see any errors related to sound when the client was booting up?
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<CaPRiCorN^80>
but as i told u when i didnt have pci card n when i tried to run wav or mp3 it gave me error . but now i can play sounds using realplayer but cannot hear it
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<petre>
do you hear sounds played via esdplay?
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<CaPRiCorN^80>
no i can't hear it
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its just the player who played music
11:26
<mistik1>
petre: did everything work out for you last night?
11:26
<petre>
mistik1: yes!
11:26
thanks for your help
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<mistik1>
np
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<petre>
your suggestions to put stuff into the rc.sound file got me looking at it
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and that's when I noticed there was stuff missing.
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<CaPRiCorN^80>
petre: wat u suggest
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<CaPRiCorN^80>
i dont know wat to do :(
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<petre>
turns out, in Gadi's oss-alsa sound package, the rc.sound script never got copied over for some reason
11:27
once I put that into place, everything worked.
11:28
everything had worked when I put those pieces in you suggested, but I wanted to know why they were automatically working
11:28
since it worked on my k12ltsp 5 box
11:28
I probably just didn't pay close enough attention during Gadi's install script
11:29
CaPRiCorN^80: can you boot a knoppix disk on the client?
11:29
knoppix has great hardware detection
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if sound works with that, see what driver it's using
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then look for that in etc/audiolist
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<CaPRiCorN^80>
hmm .. ok i will do that tomorrow
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<petre>
actually, I think what you have to do is run lspci and lsmod under knoppix
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to get the right info
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<CaPRiCorN^80>
u were saying some thing about /tmp/info/SOUND .
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<petre>
that just shows if sound is enabled in lts.conf
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<CaPRiCorN^80>
yes
11:31
i did check that its cat /tmp/info/SOUND n its output was Y
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<petre>
then you don't need to worry about /tmp/info/SOUND anymore
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<CaPRiCorN^80>
petre: u using k12ltsp fedora distrobution ?
11:32
<petre>
yes
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<CaPRiCorN^80>
did u ever face usb mouting problems ?
11:32
<petre>
yes, but I think it was with an earlier version of ltsp 4.2
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later releases fixed the problem I had
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<CaPRiCorN^80>
which version u are using now ?
11:33
<petre>
k12ltsp 5 and 6
11:33
just started working on setting up 6 on new laptop
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<CaPRiCorN^80>
k12ltsp 5 and 6 ??? ... i m asking u ltsp version ?
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<irule>
guys I installed 1 linux server for 20 X terminals that all rdesktop a windows server, it seems the traffic is all going through linux and I can see a very slow refresh rate once X temrinals are in a remote windows desktop session, is it possible to install more network cards connnected to the same router and make XDMCP listen on the aditional cards to distribute the load?
11:34
<petre>
ltsp 4.2.4
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I think that's the latest release in the 4.2.x series
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<irule>
is there a method to upgrade from 4.2.2?
11:35
<sepski>
irule, instead of using the thinclients to connect to the linux server and running rdesktop from there, use rdesktop on the clients directly.
11:35
<irule>
as a local app?
11:35
<sepski>
yeah
11:36
<irule>
great idea, thanks
11:36
<CaPRiCorN^80>
petre: u know my clients really stuck by usb problems like when they insert there usb . usb icons do appear but it show some old data etc
11:37
<petre>
yeah, usb is great most of the time, but sometimes acts a bit weird
11:37
sometimes = different hardware and usb sticks
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<petre>
best thing to do is follow the local device checklist *very carefully*
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<CaPRiCorN^80>
well my all clients got the same usb's but still they face problem . its not that usb dont mount its the static data . like if they copy some data today they dont see it tomorrow only older data will be there
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i did follow that
11:38
one more thing
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wats your echo $DISPLAY output ?
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<petre>
ws001.ltsp:0.0
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<CaPRiCorN^80>
right
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n wats the output of hostname ?
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<petre>
k12ltsp
11:42
but hostname is showing the server's hostname
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<CaPRiCorN^80>
no it should be ws001
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run hostname in shell
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<petre>
if I Ctrl-Alt-F2 over to the client's command prompt, and run hostname, it says ws001
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<CaPRiCorN^80>
ok
11:43
well i got the same thing
11:43
<petre>
but there is no $DISPLAY defined at the command prompt level
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<CaPRiCorN^80>
but sbleave said it should the same in both cases
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echo $DISPLAY n hostname show the same output i.e ws001
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<petre>
hmm, not sure about that
11:45
he's the expert
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<CaPRiCorN^80>
yes
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<petre>
he wrote it
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<CaPRiCorN^80>
but i have seen the same output of echo$DISPLAY on k12ltsp FAQ
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it means it work like this on k12ltsp
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as i m using ltsp version 4.2 so how can i update it without disturbing the existing settings ?
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<petre>
not sure
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are you using k12ltsp?
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<CaPRiCorN^80>
yes
11:48
<petre>
which version
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<CaPRiCorN^80>
k12ltsp 5 n 6 confused me when u said that .. i m not sure which k12ltsp using but it fc5
11:48
k12ltsp 5 n 6 confused me when u said that .. i m not sure which k12ltsp using but its fc5
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<petre>
that would be k12ltsp version 5
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<CaPRiCorN^80>
ok
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<petre>
the version parallels the version of fedora being used
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<CaPRiCorN^80>
ok
11:49
i think u told me that u are using version 6 ?
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<petre>
I've got both versions, running on differen boxes
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<CaPRiCorN^80>
ok
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<petre>
but usb has worked fine on my k12ltsp 5 box
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<CaPRiCorN^80>
but some times creates problem on mine
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<petre>
the problems I was having were related to getting double icons, as I recall
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<petre>
and wanting to block out floppy drives from appearing since I use etherboot floppies
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<CaPRiCorN^80>
ok
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<CaPRiCorN^80>
i told u mine now the problem is almost solve . i did that fuse group settings
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wats ur ls -l /dev/fuse output ?
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<mistik1>
petre the new sound expert ;)
11:53
<petre>
no, petre the new sound refugee
11:53
<mistik1>
ha, no way, You get to solve all the sound issues now
11:53* petre REALLY wants the gstreamer & pulseaudio stuff to work and become commonplace
11:53
<mistik1>
Best way to learn is to teach ;-)
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<petre>
oh, I know that, that's why I try to jump in even where I don't know what I'm doing
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plenty of opportunity for that :-)
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<mistik1>
sure thing
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<CaPRiCorN^80>
petre: wats ur ls -l /dev/fuse output ?
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<petre>
crw-rw---- 1 root fuse 10, 229 Feb 14 08:33 /dev/fuse
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<CaPRiCorN^80>
hmm
11:55
ok
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<petre>
brb
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<CaPRiCorN^80>
can paste me your lts.conf sound settings of thin station ?
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like ws001
11:58
like for ws001
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<GRAHAM>
Hi,
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<CaPRiCorN^80>
hi
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<GRAHAM>
when i try and boot a client it works fine until modprobe, then i just get transmit time outs after it tried to detect the mouse
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<CaPRiCorN^80>
hmm . sorry cant help u
12:09
no idea
12:19
petre: u back ?
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<erdinc>
hi everyone
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<CaPRiCorN^80>
hiye
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<CaPRiCorN^80>
w.b petre
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<petre>
hmm, I keep killing my xchat sessions on this new laptop
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<CaPRiCorN^80>
wow
12:55
which new laptop u got ?
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<petre>
Toshiba U205-S5057
12:56
1GB RAM, dual core, 160GB disk
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<CaPRiCorN^80>
price ?
12:56
<petre>
4 pounds
12:56
$1150 plus tax
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<CaPRiCorN^80>
nice
12:57
my too is broken n i m also thinking to get new one
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<petre>
I bought a three year warranty from the local dealer for $200, so total was about $1425
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<petre>
I wanted something powerful enough to act as a LTSP server for demos
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<CaPRiCorN^80>
oh yes i msg u .. can u tellme your sound settings of lts.conf
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n also which thin clients u r using ?
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<petre>
I've got nine partitions so far (Windows takes up two or three) for different distros
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I'm using some Dell Latitude laptops as clients, plus some old desktop machines
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nothing special in my lts.conf file
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<knight>
hi all
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<CaPRiCorN^80>
i mean for any specific thin station u did any settings ?
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<knight>
what command can I use instead of mknbi for ubuntu
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<CaPRiCorN^80>
like i pasted u yesterday for my ws117
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<petre>
no, I don't have any settings for specific terminals ATM
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<CaPRiCorN^80>
then u r lucky that ur sound is working
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<petre>
that may change as I've noticed that some ISA cards I have that used to work are not working now
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<CaPRiCorN^80>
hmm
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<knight>
anybody know of the alternative to mknbi command in ubuntu
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<CaPRiCorN^80>
knight: #ubuntu
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<mistik1>
Do you guys think there are many people running i386 as thin-clients?
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<CaPRiCorN^80>
yes
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<knight>
yup
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<CaPRiCorN^80>
but not i386 . we are using 400 Mhz pI
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<mistik1>
386?
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<cliebow>
mistik1:you mean rather than ppc?
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<mistik1>
vs 486 586 686
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<petre>
mistik1: not so much any more
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<cliebow>
hmm.we are pretty downwardly mobile..and draw the line at p1
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<petre>
386 works for command line terms but not gui
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<jammcq>
I think 486 is the lowest you need to worry about
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<petre>
I've got a p133 I use for demos
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got a 486 too, but video is a bit choppy
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<mistik1>
jammcq: which is what I was thinking
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<jammcq>
the reason you need to stick with 486, is cuz lots of low-end processors like the SiS chips are actually 486's with some additional stuff
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<petre>
interesting
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<jammcq>
the aren't really 486's, but they don't support all of the instructions of a 586, so we can't use 586 as the lowest cpu to support
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<petre>
would there be any benefit to making the 586 the lowest supported cpu?
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<jammcq>
586's contain some better instructions that can improve performance, but we can't do that, cuz of the SiS processors
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and there's alot of thin clients out there using those
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<petre>
right, I'm not advocating such a standard
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I was just wondering what the benefit would be, if any, if 586 was the bottom rung
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<erdinc>
hi jammcq
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<jammcq>
hey erdinc
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<mistik1>
jammcq: well hopefully with MueKow we will see may arch's supported and subarch
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<iloadmin>
I am having errors on dhcp
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<erdinc>
like?
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<iloadmin>
not starting
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on ubuntu
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<erdinc>
checkout /var/log/syslog
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what it says?
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<mistik1>
haha
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<iloadmin>
Feb 20 15:18:46 stpaul dhcpd: Not configured to listen on any interfaces!
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<mistik1>
Funny how things become so much clearer after a bit of sleep
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<erdinc>
you got the problem iloadmin :)
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<iloadmin>
ok
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lol
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<GRAHAM>
when i get to modprobe on the client i get problems with transmit time out, then kernel panic. anyone any ideas
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<iloadmin>
how do I do that
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<erdinc>
http://cekirdek.pardus.org.tr/~erdinc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf
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take a look at this
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<iloadmin>
I made some changes
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on mine
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<mistik1>
DO you have an interface up with the subnet configured in dhcpd.conf?
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<erdinc>
mistik1 he didnt :)
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<mistik1>
erdinc: I would not think so
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for the error
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<erdinc>
there is no interface assigned for dhcp
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he should do that
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<iloadmin>
yupo
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<erdinc>
he got more than one eth
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<iloadmin>
yes I do
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<erdinc>
ubuntu should have sysconfig or something like this
14:38
you should set like: dhcpd_ifaces="eth1"
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<iloadmin>
ok
14:39
my question is'
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<iloadmin>
is there something to setup the dhcp for an interface
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<erdinc>
or you can setup you subnet same with your interface
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in this case dhcpd will be working on this interface
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<iloadmin>
????
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I am trying to paste the conf file on the paste bin
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how do I do that
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<aaron>
What's the numberone cause for X to not load after the thin client booted
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(it has started before, but somebody else changed the machine)
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(and I have to figure it out.. remotely)
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<knitoperu>
hi to everybody!
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I have an old xcel2000 motherboard that has in his bios boot options a "Network" one
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but It has not an internal lan card
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I've put an external LAN card
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I wanto to make the Network option works
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<knitoperu>
Anyone knows if it's possible?
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<bricode>
knitoperu: What type of external lan card?
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<knitoperu>
It's not an "external one", It's a not built in one
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<knitoperu>
an usual PCI nic
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<bricode>
You should look at etherboot.
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knitoperu: It can add a ROM to the PCI nic to allow it to network boot.
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<knitoperu>
the question is how I tell the motherboard to boot from a PCI slot
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<knitoperu>
Ok, then The motherboard Network option, make that the motherboard looks for a boot rom?
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<bricode>
knitoperu: I think so, but am not sure.
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<knitoperu>
I have some motherboards with PXE boot and built-in NIC that boot from network
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but It could not be the case
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I Understand
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Where and what I need to look, to know what is missing?
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<bricode>
knitoperu: You can build your own PXE boot utilities at http://rom-o-matic.net/5.4.2/
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knitoperu: One option is to replace the ROM on the PCI nic (if it does not PXE boot already).
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knitoperu: Another is to create a boot floppy or boot CDROM.
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<knitoperu>
I know it, I'm trying to boot from a rom thing and not from floppy or cd (triying to kiss)
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Ithink that I have conffused network boot capability with boot rom NIC capability
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I need to try with a boot rom NIC
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<bricode>
knitoperu: Do you know what type of PCI card it is? Do an lspci -v
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<knitoperu>
I dont have how to boot in it right now
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<knitoperu>
I will find a cdrom and a live-disk to
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what I need to look into lspci -v?
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<bricode>
knitoperu: It will tell you the chip that is on the card.
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knitoperu: Alternatively you can just look at the chip on the card.
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<knitoperu>
is a vt-6105
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and I have an empty boot rom slot
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That's the problem
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I think That I need the boot rom chip, the NIC's software to let it check for the boot rom
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AND the network boot option in the motherboard
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I need all them
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I've suposed that only motherboard's network boot capability was enough
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Thanlyou for ur Time!!
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<cliebow_>
knitoperu: lspci will tell yuou what slot it is in lspci -n wil gigve you pci id..that is what you need
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<petre>
shouldn't a file moved to a directory with 4775 permissions end up with the same group as the directory?
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copying the file seems to work this way (as desired) but moving a file seems to keep the original group
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is this normal?
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(yeah, this isn't really a LTSP question, but it's in regard to an LTSP site)
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<cliebow_>
petre: is the folder setgid?
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<petre>
yes
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that's what the 4 does
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oh, wait, that should be 2775
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well, ls on the directory shows drwxrwsr-x
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I've used this for years to keep a group's shared files writeable by all
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<cliebow_>
id have to looka t one o mine..
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<petre>
but on my fc6 system, moving a file preserves the original group
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<cliebow_>
drwxrws---
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in my case user i s owner and k2 is group
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<petre>
if you copy a file into that shared directory, it should have the new group assigned to it
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but if you move a file, it keeps the same group, usually the private group of the user
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
hey have a realtek8139D
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what room a tic driver have to copy to fd0?
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<petre>
sh3mh4mf0r4sh: get the universal boot floppy
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
where is that universal?
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<cliebow_>
well chances are its pci ends with 8139..look in rommatic
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<petre>
sh3mh4mf0r4sh: ftp://k12ltsp.mesd.k12.or.us/pub/K12LTSP/Universal_boot_floppy/
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
petre: that driver it's same cat file > /dev/fd0?
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<petre>
yes
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
thanxs
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<cliebow_>
etter yet dd if=something of=/dev/fd0
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<petre>
why is dd better than cat?
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<cliebow_>
well long ago i had probs..and jammcq recommended same
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<petre>
okay; I've done it both ways, couldn't really tell any diff
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perhaps I just got lucky
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<cliebow_>
well..that wAS a long time ago..
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
ohh works cool!
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but when start X
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the video make #@^^$%@!*$&GUIU&$%^f55#&#8
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:S
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<cliebow_>
x is another problem altogether..
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
video drivers problem?
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<cliebow_>
yes for sure..is that an intel board on the client?
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
yes
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<cliebow_>
and ltsp-4.3?
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4.2?
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
no.
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4.2
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<cliebow_>
set xserver=i810
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<cliebow_>
for that client
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
is global
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<cliebow_>
a guess..
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
for default
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i reboot
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and now out the gray X
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<cliebow_>
the client
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ok gray x..means xdmcp ix not enabled..
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!gray x
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<ltspbot>
cliebow_: Error: "gray" is not a valid command.
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<cliebow_>
!grayscreen
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<ltspbot>
cliebow_: "grayscreen" is No login, and only a grey screen? See http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Troubleshooting-GrayScreen#GDM
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
noo
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<cliebow_>
noo?
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
my laptop boot cool with gdm
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ok!
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<cliebow_>
set?
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
XF86CONFIG_FILE = xorg.conf
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<cliebow_>
???
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
works now!
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;)
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<cliebow_>
Cool...chalk one up for petre!
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
was my gdm proceess agasin at standby
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i try to test now
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with runlevel server at 3
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and lts.conf
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say default
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runlevel = 5
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:|
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<cliebow_>
NOT runlevel!
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
so?
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<cliebow_>
ohhh for server
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
:P
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read ^
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;)
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<petre>
what did I do? (I stepped away for a bit there)
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
check this y explain my trouble
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http://pastebin.ca/365423
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my suggest of runlevel tu ltsp and client runlevel 5
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not works
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keep going have same error of gdm
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so?
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<cliebow_>
there IS no runlevel in 4.2 client use screen_01
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
i use screen01
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<cliebow_>
screen_01=shell
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
uhm
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i use only screen_01=starx
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<cliebow_>
screen_01=startx
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
i try other thing ;)
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<petre>
sh3mh4mf0r4sh: is your server at runlevel 3?
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
he
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yes
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<cliebow_>
look in screen.d in your chroot /etc
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
y delete S21gdm at rc3.d
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<cliebow_>
no
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<petre>
that normally doesn't work unless you're starting gdm manually
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<cliebow_>
i dont think
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
not work :)
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let me c to chroot
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<cliebow_>
be careful..you will break something
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
ok
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what i do then?
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exactly
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i c the file
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startx
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<cliebow_>
or shell
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
not c nothing special
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<cliebow_>
some people use startnx there..if installed..
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
wll
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i thinks i fix
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the server i has to not X server
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so /etc/X11/X not exist
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so installed xserver-xorg
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and.. works now.. the server with X
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anyway server not for work
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but error not exist so. process not stay in standby and client will be connect ok
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<kaos01>
hi, iam having reliability problems with pxegrub, 50% of the time the menu appears and the other 50% it doesnt ...
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<sh3mh4mf0r4sh>
cool.. works now
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i'm happy and can sleep well xD
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i'm finish my debconf to present ltsp-4.2 for cuba :)
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as a SWL proyect
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c'y
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<cliebow_>
petre:your link to universal boot flop seems broken..
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oh no..fine now
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<jammcq>
yo
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<mistik1>
dberkholz: hey man, I'm plowing along with that init script man, I just want to make it work, it can be improved on later
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jammcq: hey
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<aaron>
I'm trying to check my understanding here, clients ignore the /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/X11/xorg.conf and instead build one for themselves
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based off of settings in the lts.conf
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is that correct?
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I'm having one heck of a time with ubuntu's ltsp, client X isn't comming up specifically
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<mathesis>
irule, hi ese
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irule, andas po aqui
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<dberkholz>
mistik1: i'm around now
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<mathesis>
somebody has ltsp4.2 running on gentoo or ubuntu
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somebody has ltsp4.2 running on gentoo or ubuntu
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<jammcq>
how-deeee
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<irule>
hi Jim!
21:27
is it possible to add more NIC cards to a server with a static number next to ltsp's connected to the same switch so that it will also be used by XDMCP to increase bandwidth per se?
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<jammcq>
it is possible to bond nics, if your switch supports it
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<jammcq>
are you having an X protocol performance issue?
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<mathesis>
somebody has ltsp4.2 running on gentoo or ubuntu ?
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<chupacabra>
Look DEEP into the OPENINGS!! Do you see any ELVES or EDSELS ... or a HIGHBALL?? ...
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<rjune>
something smells funny down there, I put on my shirt of smiting
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<mathesis>
hi vagrantc
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<mathesis>
necesito una solucion mas factiblle que edubuntu
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es muy lento
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vagrantc, hi
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<vagrantc>
mathesis: hola
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<mathesis>
vagrantc, estoy desesperado edubuntu es muy mucho lento
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demora en cargar los terminales
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el server tiene un 1gb en ram 1 2.8 cpu
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120 en hdd
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y con edubuntu todo esta bien pero es muy lento
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recuerdo que cuando tuve ltsp con debian todo iba bien rapido y facil
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<vagrantc>
como se dice "lento" en ingleis?
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<mathesis>
slow
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edubuntu is slowly in load
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<vagrantc>
que lento?
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<mathesis>
slow=lento
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<vagrantc>
si, entiendo ... pero ...
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"how slow" ?
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<mathesis>
como 3 minutes
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cuando tenia el server 1 ghz 256 en ram fue speed the load
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in debian !!!
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<vagrantc>
si, pero que tipo de clientes?
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<mathesis>
no entiendo tipo de clientes
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<vagrantc>
hmmm... CPU y RAM de los "thin-clients"
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<mathesis>
128 ram
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cpu 400 mhz
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<vagrantc>
mathesis: ltsp 4.2 con debian, or ltsp5 con debian?
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<mathesis>
edubuntu ltsp5
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<vagrantc>
si, pero mas rapido en debian?
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<mathesis>
si mucho
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<vagrantc>
con ltsp 4.2, o no?
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<mathesis>
fue mucho mucho rapido
23:32
si
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<vagrantc>
si... ltsp 4.2 es muy rapido
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necesitamos hacer ltsp5 mas rapido, pero es dificil.
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<mathesis>
the thin clients start speed
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el server tardaba mas cuando se prendia
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los clientes siempre iniciaban velozmente
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<vagrantc>
mathesis: usa LDM or GDM con edubuntu?
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<mathesis>
ldm
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<vagrantc>
si, ldm es muy lento.
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<mathesis>
como puedo iniciar con gdm
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<vagrantc>
en lts.conf
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SCREEN_07=startx
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y tambien...
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configurar GDM permite XDMCP o remote login ... yo olvido exactamente
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<knight>
Mathesis
23:39
ya arreglo el problema?
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<mathesis>
knight, sigo sin poder arreglarlo
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<knight>
wow
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<mathesis>
que version kubuntu tienes
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dime que onda we
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knight, disculpa eso no era pa ti xD
23:47
knight, dices que tu tienes edubuntu
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vagrantc, que tal esta el soporte de ltsp en gentoo?
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<knight>
no yo uso ubuntu
23:48
<mathesis>
con gnome knight
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<vagrantc>
mathesis: no se. dos or tres personas trabahan en ltsp de gentoo...
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<knight>
sip con gnome
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<mathesis>
knight, a que produccion esta orientado tu ltsp
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<knight>
osea para que lo utilizo
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??
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<mathesis>
si
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<knight>
lo uso para clases de computadora basica
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y clases de crear websites
23:58
tambien instale uno en una Iglesia
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y ahi tienen gente en la communidad cogiendo clases basica de computadora
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<mathesis>
knight, que tal el soporte para unidades de acceso local?
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<knight>
bueno no he experimentado con eso
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aunque si debo de hacerlo