IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.libera.chat (webchat)
Channel log from 6 December 2014 (all times are UTC)
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| 04:07 | <roue> hola
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| 04:08 | I've just gotten LTSP running under Debian Wheezy but don't understand what I'm doing :) I'd like to open a terminal (xterm, rxvt) but I can't find it in any of the menus or in the filesystem.
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| 04:09 | I chrooted in /opt/ltsp/i386 and did an apt-get install rxvt-unicode which seemed to work, but I still can't find the binary after rebooting the thin client. I'm guessing that NFS directory is not what is actually being used? I don't know. Would appreciate any pointers. thanks.
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| 06:13 | <nrdb> I am testing a ltsp setup (using VMs) when I boot the client it does start ... but does't show a login request ... I have lts.conf setup for "shell" and "ldm" ... I can switch to the "shell" screen ... but the "ldm" only shows a "_" (i.e. its blank) ... can I manually start ldm from the "shell" screen?
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| 06:41 | <[LaSaK]> yea u can login via ssh
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| 08:52 | <nrdb> why does the chroot environment have a etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key file but after a ltsp-update-image the client does not have an /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key ?
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| 09:28 | <nrdb> not worry fixed it up.
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| 11:39 | <AlexPortable> How can I use LTSP without DHCP?
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| 11:39 | And is it possible to copy a working system to an LTSP image?
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| 11:42 | Because the desktop I have is different than the server I want to supply the images from
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| 12:34 | <Hyperbyte> AlexPortable, why do you want to use LTSP without DHCP?
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| 12:34 | <AlexPortable> Because I already have a router that supplies dhcp
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| 12:34 | <Hyperbyte> LTSP is a system for netbooting client images. Netboot requires DHCP.
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| 12:38 | <AlexPortable> So what can I o?
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| 12:38 | do*
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| 12:38 | Should I just tell some people that the network isn't available during work hours?
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| 12:39 | Because I need 5 thin clients
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| 12:45 | Hyperbyte:
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| 12:57 | <cyberorg> AlexPortable, google dnsmasq proxy
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| 13:02 | <AlexPortable> gives me this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ProxyDHCP
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| 13:02 | but I don't really understand what it is
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| 13:07 | <cyberorg> it lets you use existing dhcp server with ltsp
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| 13:08 | <AlexPortable> How does it works?
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| 13:08 | <cyberorg> ip is given by other server/router and client pxe boots from ltsp server
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| 13:09 | <AlexPortable> ah
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| 13:09 | Is it hard to configure?
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| 13:11 | <cyberorg> AlexPortable, just read that page carefully, everything you need is there :)
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| 13:12 | <AlexPortable> ok
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| 13:12 | How do I copy a current running system to an image?
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| 13:13 | <cyberorg> !ltsp-pnp
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| 13:13 | <ltsp> ltsp-pnp: ltsp-pnp is an alternative (upstream) method to maintain LTSP installations for thin and fat clients that doesn't involve chroots: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuLTSP/ltsp-pnp
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| 13:18 | <AlexPortable> Huh
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| 13:18 | How will that copy my current system to an image?
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| 13:22 | <muppis_> Just like from chroot.
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| 13:28 | <AlexPortable> huh
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| 13:28 | What do you mean?
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| 13:33 | I don't want to change anything on the system
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| 14:27 | <AlexPortable> muppis_:
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| 14:51 | <AlexPortable> cyberorg:
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| 14:57 | <alkisg> AlexPortable: to publish your working image through ltsp, you at least need to install the ltsp-client package, you can't publish it without changing anything...
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| 14:57 | And if you install ltsp-server too, like the ltsp-pnp page says, you also get the tools to do it inside your desktop system instead of outside of it
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| 14:58 | And if you install proxydhcp like the ltsp-pnp page says, then you solve the problem with your router too
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| 14:58 | But maybe you should describe all your setup first, in order to have the best advice...
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| 15:15 | <AlexPortable> Well can I somehow copy the system to another system?
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| 15:15 | and make the change there?
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| 15:16 | <alkisg> Sure you can clone linux boxes, google, there are many ways to do that
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| 15:16 | <AlexPortable> My setup; I have a laptop, which contains an up-to-date install of the distro I choose. I can't install any additional software (ltsp-client or similar) on it. I have a server that can distribute the images (it's currently a web and fileserver). And I have normal internet connection with a router that does DHCP. I have 5 laptops without an HDD so I want to
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| 15:16 | use LTSP for them.
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| 15:16 | <alkisg> If you can't install ltsp-client, then you can't use ltsp
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| 15:17 | <alkisg> LTSP client images need the ltsp-client package in order to boot, if you don't have it installed then you're not using ltsp
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| 15:17 | <AlexPortable> Well can I somehow copy the files to an harddisk and make the image from there?
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| 15:17 | <alkisg> Yes, google for "clone linux box"
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| 15:18 | <AlexPortable> Yes I know how to clone
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| 15:18 | But that makes an clonezilla image.
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| 15:18 | Which doesn't contains the ltsp-client package
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| 15:18 | <alkisg> You can't make an ltsp image without the ltsp-client package
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| 15:18 | Clone with rsync then
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| 15:18 | Not with clonezilla
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| 15:18 | Or with dd. or with tar...
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| 15:19 | <alkisg> Or even with clonezilla, but restore it to the target system, don't just copy it
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| 15:19 | Anyway all that isn't about ltsp...
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| 15:19 | * alkisg waves | |
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| 17:21 | <moldy> hi
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| 17:22 | ubuntu 12.04. how do i select which session i want to log into in ldm?
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| 17:22 | i'd like to use kde, most other users gnome
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| 17:35 | <AlexPortable> click on the button behind your name
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| 18:06 | <moldy> AlexPortable: in ldm?
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| 18:07 | AlexPortable: i created a ~/.dmrc file now
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| 18:37 | <championofcyrodi> jujubee: i have had the same probably trying to copy a chroot from one machine to another... not sure what the problem was, so i just rebuilt it on the new server using the ltsp-build-image script.
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| 19:33 | <AlexPortable> moldy: ldm is the default manager right?
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