i have a prb on my ltsp server
i have 70 users
on hp sun server
with 5 gb ram
3 gig cpu
one of my users complain that
if some one saves a word file of 5 mb
all desktop goes slow until that file is saved
any idea wahts this
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the 12 steps for local device support are necessary for fedora ltsp distribution
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ThinClient: is it not working for you?
yes i m getting problem
but are these steps are necessary for fedora LTSP distribution
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LTSP 4.2 on fedora, or something different?
i m using Fedora k-12 Distribution
n LTSP 4.3
or rather, cat /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/version
[root@mainframe ~]# cat /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/version
# Linux Terminal Server Project - LTSP
# For more info, visit http://www.ltsp.org
VERSION=4.2 update 3
i would think the 12 steps are what you need, then.
vagrantc: "checklist" is The checklist for debugging problems with local device access is at http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LTSP-42-LocalDev#Troubleshooting. Please work through all 12 steps, record the results, and paste the results to the pastebot at http://pastebot.ltsp.org
i have done those 12 steps but the problem is still there
what is the problem?
well give me some time . i have to document all this again n i will talk to u
ThinClient: well, i must sleep. good luck! :)
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hi, i have ltsp-4.2 and I cant configure abnt keyboard..
I looked for it on ltsp.org... but ther explain how to configure it on ltsp 3...
does somebody know where can i find some thing to fix it?
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im running ltsp. Should i get kicker after login in with kdm?
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and with kicker i mean the "taskbar"
i only get a console, i think its xterm
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I found the solution to the keyboard abnt to ltsp-4 ... how do I put it on wiki?
ohmbr: can you tell me, should i get the taskbar with the default ltsp-setup? X starts nicely, but i only get xterm
and im trying to use kde
deep-blue: sorry... i dont know...
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i can buy a compaq T20 thin client, does those work well with ltsp?
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yanu:never tried one..will it pxe boot?
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some of then, that's what i read on googlo
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s/then/them and s/googlo/google
acha, when it have pxe, then there is no problem (List: ltsp-discuss)
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hmm, wierd machine so to see, i'm don't like it (compac T20)
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yanu:i give typing classes if you need them 8~)
do you give classes on dvorak? ;)
jammcq: are you on?
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jammcq: I'm trying to get a better understanding of how X works on the client.
my specific problem is a new desktop machine that I also use as a thin client via etherboot floppy
I have FC6 installed on the client machine. It says it's using a vesa driver for X and gives me 1600x1200
But the best res I can get as a thin client is 1024x768, also using the vesa driver. why is that?
Is vesa driver !- vesa driver?
That is, is it a case of not all vesa drivers are the same?
The FC6 correctly identifies the vid hardware, but LTSP says it can't identify it and falls back to vesa
the default resolution in LTSP is 1024x768
what happens if you specify: X_MODE_0 = 1600x1200
I get 1024x768
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Actually, I didn't try 1600x1200; I just tried 1280x1024 but still got just 1024x768
Another related question: yesterday someone was on asking for help with an old 1MB Cirrus Logic vid card
He could only get 640x480 on the client.
The wiki talks about trying some of the old XFree86 drivers, but those aren't shipped any more (the wiki page is old I suspect)
In theory, should one be able to install an old driver from, say, an old distro or an old package that contains an XFree86 driver
put the files in /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/X11R6/bin and use that?
ah, the dreaded cirrus logic
no, an old driver won't work with ltsp-4.x
we no longer include XFree86
but... I think the cirrus logic cards will work with the 'cirrus_alpine' driver
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why isn't XFree86 included any more? I'm not suggesting that it should be, I'm just trying to understand why it isn't.
it's too much to maintain
Does is all have to be compiled for LTSP?
Xorg and XFree86 are huge
yes, it all has to be compiled for LTSP, in the LBE
Ah, within the LBE; that's where I was heading...
Isn't the point of muekow to get away from that, to use the distro's packages?
in which case you'll definately not have XFree86
but if it's supposed to just use the distro's packages, what prevents one from using it on top of, say rh7.3?
Or does the distro have to add some things to support muekow?
someone would have to create an LTSP-5 for rh7.3
it requires alot of integration with the distro
packaging, startup scripts and other things
it also requires modifications to the distro initramfs to support network booting and nfs root
that's why it's so hard to get it going
with 4.2 you're still building the initramfs, right?
i.e., the initramfs comes from ltsp project
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right, with 4.2, WE build the initramfs
so, if one were to take the source files for XFree86 and compile them within LBE, then one could use an XF86 driver?
it's not just the driver
you'd need all of XFree86
So, in earlier versions of ltsp you used to re-compile all of Xfree86?
yep, in fact, we built both XFree86 and Xorg
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and now you just re-compile Xorg?
are there docs on the wiki or elsewhere about lbe? What I'm wondering is why you have to re-compile Xorg.
it's not 'RE-COMPILE'
we build everything that the thin client executes, INCLUDING Xorg
At the time X is started, you've already got a running kernel. What is different about ltsp's Xorg over that of the distro?
hang on, ph call
Now that I think about it, the kernel and everything underneath is going to be different from the distro, so I suppose Xorg has to be built to work with that.
That's why you have to build your own Xorg, I'll bet.
EVERYTHING the thin client executes is built in LBE
using a consistent set of libraries and compilers and linkers and all that stuff
anyone using ltsp4.2 and ltspinfo to shutdown the client and wakeonlan/etherwake to power them up again?
klausade: not me
I recall Eric saying that while using ltspinfo to shutdown clients looked nifty, it was a bad idea, and therefore turned off by default, because anyone could cause a client to shutdown, right?
it's a security issue
well, ltspinfo -s leaves the machine in such a state that wol doesn't work. While the same machine when running thick(or halfthick muecow) will come up with wol after a init 0.
pscheie: that is a downside yes. but it also has a nice side to it :-)
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klausade: oh I agree. I'm thinking of showing it to some teachers with the caveat that there is some risk.
but I expect this to be in an elementary school setting, where the kids won't have the tech chops to figure it out
alguien habla español?
pscheie: well, they always have elder brothers/sisters ...
right, but they're not in the classroom. I'll show it, but let the teacher make the call.
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jammcq: what brought on the phasing out of the old website
mistik1: sourceforge screwed up their vhost records, rendering the old site unreachable
so, when they did that, I pointed it to the wiki
then, later, they fixed it
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mistik1: check this: http://wiki1.ltsp.org/home.html
¤hold on lemme fire up X
jammcq: putting the old face on the wiki, eh?
just a little bit
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still needs some work
I love a front page that dont have you scrolling all day
i'd like to launch it as THE www.ltsp.org site by Jan 1st
I could prolly do it now
I'd get occasional complaints that people come to www.ltsp.org and can't figure out what ltsp is
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hey, look who showed up
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'morning Gadi, oh guru of sound ;-)
oh, now I se...
Tommy, can you hear me?
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so, whats up?
Gadi: your brother from another mother is here today :)
Gadi: did you see the message on the list from Barry Cisna about the via vt1612?
yeah, so Im glad my dad isn't ;)
I havent seen the list in days :(
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There isn't an audio equivalent of a vesa driver :-(
although SB drivers often work since most cards emulate them
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As I said to jammcq about X, I'm just trying to broaden my understanding of how this works.
I think sound in ltsp is black box for a lot of folks, including me
so, does ltsp have to build a driver for the vt1612?
apparently it's the via 7019 driver that works
with some modification
it looks like it uses the via vinyl driver
how do you know that?
rather than the ac97 one
google is ur friend
dunno where the linux driver is at with it
google is my ONLY friend
did the regular via driver work?
and did you try the ALSA one?
dunno; I suggested he try knoppix to figure out a working driver
7019? I believe ClaudioFelix has a driver rolled for that
you may want to pounce him when he gets in
jammcq: I'll be ur friend
after New Years
at a reduced rate
pscheie: if the soundcard is sb-compatible, you could use sb
sometimes, you need legacy audio support in the bios
if it is onboard sound
I have a client machine with an old SB-compatible ISA card
pscheie: good luck my friend
Sound works without even specifying any parameters for it in lts.conf
that sb driver was the bane of my existence
Is ltsp using alsa yet?
well, it's not my problem really, it was someone on the list. But no doubt I'll run into it someday
gadi has a package that does
saved my neck on a bunch of dell laptop clients
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jammcq: are there any pressing reasons to upgrade my clients to ltsp-4.2?
4.2 has awesome local device support
and uses less ram than previous versions
but i've still got ltsp-3 running at one of my customers
jammcq: just how little ram does 4.2 use?
I currently have them on 4.1
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4.1 didn't have "awesome local device support"
mistik1: ??? is that really you?
I have two customers on 4.1 right now
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Gadi: that's your "brother from another mother" that I mentioned earlier
uhm. are you the REAL mistik1?
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hey that tickles
and, hear I thought you were just a story they told the kids this time of year
but, you're real!
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where the hell have you been?
one day i'll get a chance to tell everyone the whole story
crap - we have to buy the rights
Its rather like a horible nightmare
only good things, mistik1, only good things
I think I may start a blog sometime just for the last 3 months
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anyone here know if i can do passwordless login on edubuntu with ltsp?
the_5th_wheel: haven't tried it on ubuntu, but gdm and kdm have provisions for autologin
I've got autologin using gdm on Fedora; I know others who are doing it with kdm on fedora
will look in the morrow
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the_5th_wheel: i don't think there's any way to do that with LDM, but you could probably do it with GDM.
the_5th_wheel: so, you'd have to set something like SCREEN_07=startx in lts.conf
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jammcq: you do linuxworld new york?
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jammcq: you doing linuxworld new york?
cliebow: there's no lw in new york anymore. they are doing a much smaller show at the marriot, something like 'Linux World Business Summit'
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jammcq:i see..same name different rig
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hi folks! I'm trying to run ltsp on edgy and I get a session but it crashes a few seconds after login. I'm trying to diagnose the problem and what I notice so far is that dbus-daemon is running twice, once as user messagebus and another time as one of the users from the thin clients.
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in my .xsession-errors file, I get: Lost connection to the display 'localhost:11.0';
by the way, my session crashes even if I don't do anything and just wait for it to crash by itself
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ogra: a few relatively small patches for your ltsp-mainline branch: http://llama.freegeek.org/~vagrant/bzr/ltsp/vagrant-ltsp-mainline/
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oops wrong channel.
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addam Hussein is dead
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do i feel safer?
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