IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 12 January 2009   (all times are UTC)

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<kc8pxy>
I'm at the FG in Columbus Ohio
00:01
and i regularly annoy ryan with all the new features i want us to have in fgdb :)
00:02
new kernel ready to go, let's hope this works nice.
00:02
<Ryan52>
pfft. you only did that once, and it was something sort of related to a feature that we sort of wanted...:)
00:07
<kc8pxy>
brb.. trying to new kernel (panic?). bbiab
00:08
<johnny>
you're in columbus?
00:08
i was born there
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haven't been there in ages tho
00:09
<kc8pxy>
i grew up here.
00:09
let me know when you get a chance to come back.
00:22
back
00:22
went smooth, forgot the tun module
00:22
i love building my own kernel from scratch :) it means i have the sources on had to compile modules i forgot :)
00:32
bye for a sec.
00:36
back
00:36
moment of truth.
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03:57
<Appiah>
Hello , Sometimes users have to wait 3-7mins to login. They enter user and pass , screen goes black and cursor shows.
03:57
Any idea on what can be the cause? How we can improve the login time?
03:57
I dont think it's bw problem , there's 1gbit between the server and client switch
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<cyberorg>
Appiah, try ssh -X to the server from normal PC to find out if it is ltsp client issue or something else
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05:33
<eghie>
hello
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05:34
<Eghie>
where can I find the protocol definition, which is used by, student-control-panel, scp-remote, and stuff?
05:34
because I want to write an application which does session management on LTSP servers
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<Appiah>
cyberorg yes but then check what?
06:06
<cyberorg>
Appiah, if that takes as long?
06:06
<Appiah>
oh
06:07
thats one thing
06:07
Eghie: by protocol definition , do you mean it uses these ports and these TCP protocols?
06:08
Session Management would be a nice
06:08
<ogra>
Eghie, have a look at python-tcm iirc it uses that module to make scp-remote and scp-client talk
06:09
<Eghie>
well, the hardcore RAW protocol I don't need, but the protocol it is using, which programs on the remote client it starts and ports and stuff like that
06:10
I shall take a look at that
06:18
<Appiah>
Eghie: if you start writing such a application I'll be glad to test it!
06:19
<Eghie>
it's a JAVA daemon
06:19
<Appiah>
oooh
06:19
<Eghie>
so no user interface
06:20
it's to control internet cafe's who are using LTSP
06:20
so to sell time and stuff
06:21
it already works for Nomachine NX, now to make an extension using LTSP
06:24
<Appiah>
nice
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<Eghie>
ok, so scp-remote and scp-client is using DBUS as communication layer
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08:39
<Gadi>
stgraber: ping
08:40
stgraber: FYI: I just filed this bug with gnome's bugzilla: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=567499
08:41
Hopefully, it will fix the bug preventing us from doing the localapps menu more properly
08:42
<ogra>
hmm ?
08:42
works here
08:43
<Gadi>
ogra: interpid?
08:43
*intrepid?
08:44
<ogra>
all gnomes since hoary
08:45
<Gadi>
heh, well I know that's not true
08:45
hence the bug reports
08:45
:)
08:45
<ogra>
well, i tried it recently with stgraber and back then it worked
08:45
<Gadi>
not *adding* a menu, but overriding the existing menu
08:46
it for sure fails on hardy and intrepid
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<Q-FUNK>
hm
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08:49
<sbalneav>
Morning all
08:49
<Q-FUNK>
!s
08:49
<ltspbot`>
Q-FUNK: "s" is Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
08:50
<Appiah>
Gooday
08:50
<alkisg>
Good evening! :)
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<jammcq>
Good morning #ltsp
08:54
<Q-FUNK>
!j
08:54
<ltspbot`>
Q-FUNK: "j" is jammcq!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
08:57
<alkisg>
Gadi: I just tried copying tsclient.desktop and modifying TryExec and Exec to gedit and it worked fine. Maybe you didn't modify TryExec?
08:57
(intrepid)
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<Gadi>
hmm
08:59
worked for me, too now
08:59
weird
09:00
I *know* it didnt work before - otherwise, we would have implemented the LOCAL_APPS_MENU code the proper way to begin with
09:00
:P
09:00
<Q-FUNK>
heh
09:01
<alkisg>
Maybe some update fixed it... :)
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09:05
<alkisg>
About once per day, a couple of my TCs hang completely (no caps lock, reisub, nothing). Can bad cabling cause this? I have gigabit network with old, cat 5 utp cables...
09:06
<Gadi>
ok, changed the bug report to fixed :P
09:06
<Appiah>
Anyone tried LTSP-Cluster on 8.10 ?
09:06
is it safe/stable ?
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09:28
<pscheie>
sbalneav, I owe you a thanks and a beer
09:28
<sbalneav>
Not sure what I did, but thanks! <drinks beer>
09:29
It's 12 noon *somewhere*!!!
09:29
<pscheie>
When you were here in Mpls. in '06, you mentioned you had a bunch of LCD monitors that were blowing their capacitors
09:29
<Q-FUNK>
17:30 here. happy hour has started. that works :)
09:29
<pscheie>
and how just replacing those fixed them
09:30
<sbalneav>
Perfect. I'm a man of the world.
09:30
Ahh, caps.
09:30
<jammcq>
any day Scotty can get his soldering iron plugged in is a good day :)
09:30
<pscheie>
my dad's 6 year old LCD went out over the weekend; I took it apart, and sure enough, it had two bulging caps
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<pscheie>
replaced 'em for about $4, and it's as good as new
09:30
<sbalneav>
It's a good day when I can break out the soldering iron, and save Legal Aid $200 bucks with a .30 cent cap.
09:30
Perfect.
09:31
And your dad figgurs you're a hero now.
09:31
<pscheie>
yep!
09:31
<sbalneav>
Bonus.
09:31
jammcq: Morning!
09:31
<pscheie>
He'd already bought a new one, I took the old one, figured I had nothing to lose by tearing it apart
09:31
<sbalneav>
Cold enough for you?
09:32
pscheie: You back to the deep freeze down there?
09:32
<jammcq>
sbalneav: hey hey
09:32
<pscheie>
sbalneav, not too bad, probalby abou 15 degress F, but it's snowing to beat the band ATM
09:32
good thing I rode the bus to work today
09:34* pscheie should really learn to 'know' temps in Celsius
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<sbalneav>
it's -23 here, C
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09:36
<jammcq>
http://www.xkcd.com/526/
09:40
<Appiah>
:D
09:40
See it's easy!
09:44
<jammcq>
I love what that chart says about -20C and -30C
09:47
<cliebow>
sbalneva 20 46-4.6 is 41.4 degrees below freezing...fahrenheit
09:47
<jammcq>
huh?
09:48
-40C = -40F
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<cliebow>
-40c is 80 -8=72 degrees fahrenheit below freezing
09:50
so -40f
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<jammcq>
ah, you are saying "below freezing". I'm thining "below zero"
09:50
s/thining/thinking/
09:50
<Appiah>
:D
09:50
confusing
09:53
<_UsUrPeR_>
warren: ping
09:53
<ltsppbot>
"Gadi" pasted "Does this look about right? Gadi seeks second set of eyes" (74 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/171
09:54
<Gadi>
damn - mtg time...
09:54
<kc8pxy>
johnny: without the right modules, it will fail just after tftp success?
09:56
tftp file-not-found
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<ogra>
jammcq, i'm still getting 450 errors from ltsp.org (daily)
10:38
server misconfiguration ...
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<Daemonik>
I installed Ubuntu 8.10 to host Ubuntu LTSP. I use Dvorak, my users don't. When I specify XKBLAYOUT = us in lts.conf the layout on the netbooted system is still Dvorak (for rdesktop). I'm going to attempt to change the layout by chrooting to the client image. Where does Ubuntu keep the default keyboard layout setting?
10:51
<alkisg>
Daemonik: I think you should also specify CONFIGURE_X=True in lts.conf.
10:52
To modify the layout in the chroot, give dpkg-reconfigure console-setup in the chroot.
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<Daemonik>
alkisg, Thank you. I'll try that.
10:55
I see no mention of configure_x here http://doc.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/edubuntu/handbook/C/customizing-thin-client.html Is this documentation out of date?
10:55
<alkisg>
Yes... :(
10:55
!lts.conf
10:55
<ltspbot`>
alkisg: "lts.conf" is http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LtsConf
10:56
<alkisg>
Is the current documentation, but I don't know if CONFIGURE_X is there
10:56
CONFIGURE_X only applied for some LTSP versions (including the one in 8.10).
10:56
For older or newer versions it's not needed
10:58
<Daemonik>
No, configure_x is not there
10:58
hm
10:58
There's a newer version than 8.10?
10:59
<alkisg>
Not newer Ubuntu version, but newer ltsp version, sure! :)
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<alkisg>
About once per day, a couple of my TCs hang completely (no caps lock, reisub, nothing). Can bad cabling cause this? I have gigabit network with old, cat 5 utp cables...
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<sbalneav>
alkisg: seems more like ram issues.
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<alkisg>
sbalneav: I ran memtest for hours without problems... :(
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<sbalneav>
No idea then.
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<alkisg>
Hmmm..... I guess I'll have to try with different cables, to see if it solves the problem. Thanks!
11:36
<sbalneav>
Wires are cheap: if you think it might be networking, just replace ;'em
11:37
also, see if there's any BIOS updates for the mobos
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<sbalneav>
I've seen ACPI issues, or bios issues hang mobos solid.
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<alkisg>
It's the whole wiring; the guy that put them into the rack didn't do a good job, neither in the plugs, and the wires are cat5...
11:38
They're rather old, so I guess there are ACPI problems; e.g. they don't shutoff (I guess it can be solved with some kernel parameters, but I didn't have time to look into it)
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<moldy>
hi
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<moldy>
my thin clients do not shutdown when i press the power-off button. shutting down from ldm seems to cause them to hand. any hints on where to start debugging? acpi?
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<Blinny>
Running Hardy Heron - I'd like to set up a guest account for students, but not have that account be accessible from the outside world via SSH. How do you disable this one account's external ssh access without affecting LTSP ?
13:04
<Lns>
Blinny: you need SSH access from outside for other accounts?
13:04
<johnny>
ssh has AllowGroups and AllowUsers options
13:04
<Lns>
johnny: oooo
13:04
<johnny>
oh..
13:05
but you need that for ltsp itself
13:05
hmm..
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<Blinny>
Lns: Yes.
13:05
johnny: Bingo
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<johnny>
firewall port 22 except from group
13:05
on the external interface
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oh.. wait.. incoming..
13:05
:(
13:05
use ssh keys?
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<Blinny>
I recall a discussing about this on ltsp-discuss but I can't find it in the archives.
13:06
<johnny>
that's what i do.. no login from any accounts possible
13:06
except with the ssh key
13:06
that is autogenerated
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<Blinny>
Yuck
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<johnny>
hmm?
13:08
how is that yuck :)
13:08
then again
13:08
my use case is anonymous logins
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i actually tried the default user/pass == host.. but got remote logged within a few days
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with an irc bouncer running
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so i just setup the ssh keys for login.. made things easier.. and secure
13:14
<Blinny>
Here it is: http://www.mail-archive.com/ltsp-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net/msg35264.html
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<alkisg>
Blinny: I think you may use iptables to cut all ssh traffic for the specific users with target ip <> local network
13:24
Don't ask me about the syntax, though! :)
13:26
<Blinny>
iptables is packet-level not user level though
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<johnny>
you can check user on the way out.. just not the way in
13:27
iirc
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<Blinny>
Thanks guys. I'll sort something out. Cheers.
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<Guevara>
hello
14:31
=)
14:32
hello sbalneav and Gadi this is the result of the command id of two students enrolled in the terminal, how can I make pendrives plugged the server does not appear in the 18 terminal? http://pastebin.com/m72c2594e
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<Guevara>
hello this is the result of the command id of two students enrolled in the terminal, how can I make pendrives plugged the server does not appear in the 18 terminal? http://pastebin.com/m72c2594e
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<kc8pxy>
johnny/ryan: pxe seems to be trying, but fails at bad tftp: file not found. what should my dhcp be feeding it?
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<johnny>
well.. what is your tftp setup like
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and what is your dhcp setup like
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<Guevara>
hello this is the result of the command id of two students enrolled in the terminal, how can I make pendrives plugged the server does not appear in the 18 terminal? http://pastebin.com/m72c2594e
14:49
nobody can answer me?
14:52
<kc8pxy>
INTFTPD_PATH="/var/lib/tftpboot"
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<evilx>
!help
14:52
<ltspbot`>
evilx: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
14:53
<evilx>
what the ltsp page with all ths stuff for lts.conf?
14:53
<Guevara>
nobody can answer me?
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<kc8pxy>
Guevara: people who can help will answer. people who cannot will not.
14:55
Guevara: personally, I'm not sure i understand what you said of the situation.
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<kc8pxy>
johnny: INTFTPD_PATH="/var/lib/tftpboot"
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<Guevara>
kc8pxy: 82 people gathered in the channel to do nothing? That is to serve this channel? I bet that with this my message will now appear a bunch responding
14:57
<johnny>
kc8pxy, ok that's good
14:57
dhcp?
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<Guevara>
I am moderator on another channel, and with far fewer people help many more people
14:58
<laga>
Guevara: it's 10pm here, i've had a long day, i'm just idling in here.
14:59
<kc8pxy>
Guevara: I'm only a ltsp novice. sorry, but unless it's a simple and basic config, i can't help.
14:59
<Guevara>
http://ltsp.sourceforge.net/irc.php this link says that this is the channel of support, but seems not, gather here just for nothing
15:00
18:33 went to the channel, are 19:01, see the time that I am here waiting
15:00
<kc8pxy>
johnny: not sure what that should look like. the only example files in the pltsp-server package is for dnsmasq.
15:00
<johnny>
it should have installed the other one.. oops
15:00
well.. look it up for ubuntu
15:01
same diff except for s/i386/x86/
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<laga>
Guevara: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html - might be a good read :)
15:01
<johnny>
i'm about to head to work
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<kc8pxy>
johnny: ryan gave me some stuff, but it doesn't seem to work, or i copy/pasted it wrong.
15:02
<Guevara>
forget, no one here helps nothing
15:02
<Lns>
Guevara: lol
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<kc8pxy>
Guevara: this is not a paid support channel. people are here at their leisure to help others.
15:03
<Lns>
Guevara: you need to be a bit more open minded about people helping you out. Not everyone sits and waits for someone to ask a question here, we have jobs and things to do as well. You need to be patient.
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<kc8pxy>
Guevara: unless you are lucky, a half-hour is a very short time to expect a response/
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Guevara: as an example, I've been woorking on and off with getting my setup tewaked, with johnny, for several days straight.
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tweaked.
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<Guevara>
I help people in debian and ubuntu, I do to help, but nobody here is willing to help, or teach me what?
15:05
<Lns>
Guevara: take a breath, please..
15:05
<kc8pxy>
Guevara: it would be good to start with a clear illustration of what it the situation, what is desired, and what is happening.
15:06
<Guevara>
there are 82 people here at channel where we are 6 am moderator
15:06
<Lns>
kick, anyone?
15:07
<johnny>
Guevara, your problem seems to be that your users are not in their own group
15:07* kc8pxy seconds that
15:07
<Guevara>
I have explained, if you do not know just say that you do not know, the problem here is that there are people who know but do not want to respond, because they are very goodportuguês  > inglês  alterarTraduzir
15:07
<laga>
your problem seems to be that you are impatient. also, you get what you paid for ;)
15:07
<johnny>
or they are busy with their real lives
15:07
outside of htis channel
15:07
or busy working on other things
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<Guevara>
this channel serves no purpose
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<johnny>
if your users were in their own groups, then this issue would be solved for you Guevara
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<kc8pxy>
anyone have a dhcp config from ubuntu for a working ltsp, that i can have?
15:08
<johnny>
kc8pxy, internets has it
15:08
it's also in the repository
15:08
in the bzr branch
15:08
look in /usr/portage/distfiles/bzr-src/ltsp-trunk
15:08
<Lns>
can't win em all, i guess
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<johnny>
ok.. time for me to get ready for work
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<Lns>
bye johnny
15:10
thanks for nothing, as Guevara would say ;)
15:10
<johnny>
lol
15:10
<Lns>
=p
15:10
<johnny>
i was thankin your mom last night
15:10
OOHHH
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<Lns>
oh nooes
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<johnny>
yes.. i went there.. BURN
15:11
<Lns>
hahhaa...oh i love this chan
15:11
<johnny>
luckily.. i only have to walk like 6 blocks
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<kc8pxy>
johnny: i have no trunk
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<johnny>
kc8pxy, i'm not sure what it is called in there
15:12
my gentoo box is dead atm
15:12
look in that bzr-src
15:12
but also.. you can browse for the example in launchpad
15:13
<kc8pxy>
cd: /usr/portage/distfiles/bzr-src/ltsp-trunk: No such file or directory
15:13
<johnny>
Lns, and look what we have here.. first momma joke
15:13
and then gadi shows up
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<kc8pxy>
thx
15:13
<johnny>
tells ya something huh
15:13
<Lns>
hahaha.. Gadi's streaming this chan on his cellphone me bets, for situations like this
15:14
<Gadi>
yo mama's thin client's so fat...
15:15
<Lns>
I havent tested this exact procedure yet but this could be *the* fix for Firefox 3 in Ubuntu LTSP - anyone care to comment? I'll be testing it out at one school today hopefully - http://lns.wikidot.com/nsprupdate
15:16
Gadi: lol, yo mama's thin client is so fat, she needs 500W just to POST! OH!....*ahem* Yes, I'll be here all week.
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<johnny>
thanks Lns you rock
15:17
not that i have that problem
15:17
never seen it occur with just 4 clients..
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<johnny>
you don't get that same "starting everything at the same time" effect
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<Lns>
johnny: yeah
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<johnny>
ok.. i'm off to feed
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and work
15:19
at my place with ltsp :)
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<kc8pxy>
Lns: LOL
15:26* kc8pxy decides to consider switching to dnsmasq at home.
15:28
<johnny>
ok.. i have to run to work
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<kc8pxy>
cya.. thanks for all your help
15:33
dnsmasq has a tftp option, should i, or should i not, use it?
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<vagrantc>
kc8pxy: dnsmasq is really the one-stop shop for LTSP.
15:41
kc8pxy: use all the features available ...
15:42
kc8pxy: there are some minor bugs with the tftp server and the hackish was the initramfs figures out how to download lts.conf ... if you need that feature, you might have to tweak things a little
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<moldy>
oh, that sounds interesting
15:42
could that explain why my lts.conf from tftpboot is apparently never used?
15:42
<vagrantc>
if you're using dnsmasq, yes.
15:43
<moldy>
i do. interesting.
15:43
<vagrantc>
not sure if it's fixed in newer versions of dnsmasq or not.
15:43
<moldy>
but it's a bug in the tftp server, not in dnsmasq?
15:44
<vagrantc>
moldy: it's a bug in the tftp server that is part of dnsmasq.
15:44
moldy: so if you're using dnsmasq just for dhcp, then it isn't your problem.
15:44
moldy: if you're using dnsmasq *as* a tftp server, then it might be your problem,.
15:46
moldy: do you have tftp options in your /etc/dnsmasq.conf ?
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<moldy>
hm
15:47
i am using a dedicated tftp server i think
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<vagrantc>
probably tftpd-hpa
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<moldy>
yep
15:48
btw, which port should it run on?
15:48
<vagrantc>
69
15:49
which should be the default...
15:49
<moldy>
funny, the port is closed on my server
15:49
ahh, it's run from inetd?
15:49
it's been some time since i did that install :)
15:49
<vagrantc>
yes. though inetd should be holding the port open
15:50
<moldy>
port is closed here, but my clients boot
15:50
<vagrantc>
sure it's booting off of that server?
15:50
<moldy>
yes, i only have that one :)
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<kc8pxy>
vagrantc: I'm having trouble with my current dhcp seeming to point my pxe at a file on the tftp that's not there.
15:55* vagrantc reads kc8pxy's config files using clairvoyance
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<vagrantc>
ah!
15:55* kc8pxy is preparing it via slexy.
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<vagrantc>
!pastebot
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<ltspbot`>
vagrantc: "pastebot" is The LTSP pastebot is at http://pastebot.ltsp.org. Please paste all text longer than a line or two to the pastebot, as it helps to reduce traffic in the channel. A link to the content will be pasted in the channel.
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<ltsppbot>
"kc8pxy" pasted "dhcp config" (19 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/172
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<kc8pxy>
that's the subnet that my pxe is getting
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<vagrantc>
kc8pxy: so, is your tftp server configured to use relative paths? i.e. /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp appears as /ltsp on to the tftp client?
16:02
kc8pxy: and where are your tftp files kept?
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<kc8pxy>
vagrantc: relative paths? i've never had a use for tftp before, scp rocks :)
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<vagrantc>
kc8pxy: what tftp server are you using?
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<kc8pxy>
INTFTPD_PATH="/var/lib/tftpboot"
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tftp-hpa
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<vagrantc>
ok, so does /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/x86/pxelinux.0 exist?
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<kc8pxy>
yes
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<vagrantc>
kc8pxy: so what's telling you "
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13:55 < kc8pxy> vagrantc: I'm having trouble with my current dhcp seeming to point my pxe at a file on the tftp that's not there." ?
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<kc8pxy>
vagrantc: bot my vbox ltsp client trying to pxe, as well as my hardware box that i forced to pxe (3com tornado).
16:13
s/bot/both/
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<vagrantc>
kc8pxy: what's the error message? is it from the pxe implementation? is it later in the process... ?
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<kc8pxy>
vagrantc: vbox says.
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<vagrantc>
kc8pxy: and what does it say exactly?
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<kc8pxy>
PXE-T01: File not found
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PXE-E3B: TFTP Error - File not found
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<vagrantc>
kc8pxy: what type of network is your vbox client configured to use?
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<kc8pxy>
.....???
16:17
vagrantc: this is my first ltsp server install.. trying to get the shop running ltsp
16:17
but this is my dev box.
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<vagrantc>
kc8pxy: in virtualbox, you can use NAT, Host Interface, or Internal Network configured for each network card, which is your vbox configured to use?
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<kc8pxy>
host interface
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<vagrantc>
and how is that configured?
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<kc8pxy>
vagrantc: i pugraded to 2.1.0 so i can NOT have to use tapX, it's using eth0
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<vagrantc>
ah, no idea then.
16:21* vagrantc is using 1.6.6
16:21* kc8pxy was using 1.6.6 also.
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<kc8pxy>
vagrantc: it's not only a vbox thing
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<vagrantc>
kc8pxy: yes, well, i can't really suss out your configuration sufficiently to troubleshoot ... you're using a distro i'm unfamiliar with, versions of software that are significantly different than what i'm familiar with, etc.
16:24
kc8pxy: for me it "just works".
16:35
Gadi: i'm wondering if we shouldn't use 'mount -s' and just append utf8 by default ...
16:35
Gadi: for ltspfs
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<vagrantc>
Gadi: cdpinger uses "auto" by default for the filesystem type ...
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<Gadi>
vagrantc: hey, sorry
17:00
been afk
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hmm...
17:01
I think I read cdpinger too quickly and saw that it called ltspfs_entry and was happy
17:01
:)
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<vagrantc>
it hard-codes "auto" as the filesystem
17:02
<Gadi>
the lil bastarad
17:02
<rjune_>
bastarad?
17:02
<Gadi>
its cliebow for "bastard"
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:)
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<ltsppbot>
"Gadi" pasted "ltsp-genmenu replacement" (86 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/173
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<Gadi>
vagrantc: while I have you...
17:04
can I get a spot check on that?
17:04
its a replacement for the ltsp-genmenu code that overrides the menu items with local apps stuff
17:05
<vagrantc>
well, i haven't touched ltsp-genmenu at all, but i can look for obvious weirdness...
17:06
<Gadi>
thx - the weirdness is prolly the good stuff
17:06
:)
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<vagrantc>
Gadi: instead of all the ${a##*/} calls ... i'd just set a variable with that at the top of the loop.
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<vagrantc>
Gadi: any maybe consider using basename ?
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<Gadi>
pheh - how ineeficient
17:09
calling an external binary
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:P
17:09
<vagrantc>
for readabilities sake...
17:09* Gadi needs the 5ns
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<Gadi>
:)
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<moldy>
vagrantc: the mystery of my closed tftp port is solved: i was only scanning tcp
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<vagrantc>
Gadi: i'd also try to come up with some other name for VARRUN ...
17:14
moldy: ah, yes. your test was broken. :)
17:15
Gadi: otherwise ... looks like our intended evil, i think.
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<moldy>
i cannot shutdown my ltsp clients by pressing the power button -- what am i missing?
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<nubae>
moldy: have u held it long enough
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ususally u need to hold down up to a minute
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<Gadi>
moldy: if acpi does not work, try disabling it in the BIOS
17:36
along with APM
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(if options exist for either)
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<moldy>
Gadi: will try that, thanks
17:37
<Gadi>
usually under power management
17:37
<moldy>
nubae: if i hold it too long, it will power off without shutting down properly
17:37
<Gadi>
moldy: no need to shut down properly
17:37
:)
17:37
<moldy>
Gadi: hmm, i am not really sure about that
17:38
<Lns>
Gadi: but what if he was working on an OOo document?
17:38
or any other open data
17:38
<Gadi>
you should always log out properly
17:38
:)
17:38
but no need to shut down properly
17:38
welcome to the cloud, ladies and gents
17:38
<moldy>
ok, that might be right. i want the client to logout the user when the power button is pressed.
17:39
<Gadi>
it aint yo mama's computer anymore
17:39
<Lns>
oh jesus tapdancing christ, please dont say 'cloud' lol
17:39
<Gadi>
lol
17:39
he only tapdances on thursdays
17:39
you can buy your tickets in advance, tho
17:39
<Lns>
LOL.. gadi's had too much coffee today
17:40
<Gadi>
moldy: nothing is implemented to log out the user from his server session on power button press
17:40
<moldy>
Gadi: too bad. i guess i should implement something then.
17:40
<Gadi>
there ya go
17:40
<nubae>
so I tried my hand at a LSTP logo too :-)
17:40
<Lns>
moldy: i second that
17:40
<Gadi>
there's the entreprenuerial spirit!
17:40
<moldy>
still, it would be very worthwhile not having to press the power button for forever and a day to shut the client down :)
17:41
<Lns>
nubae: cool! anywhere for us to see?
17:41
<Gadi>
moldy: are these old machines?
17:41
<moldy>
Gadi: no, they are quite new
17:41
<Gadi>
hmm...
17:41
<moldy>
Gadi: atom systems
17:41
<Gadi>
hmm...
17:41
eeepcs?
17:41
<moldy>
no
17:42
<Gadi>
hmm...
17:42
<moldy>
btw, i am having the same problem on two different clients
17:42
<Gadi>
(I likesaying that)
17:42
<moldy>
and i am pretty sure that it was working at some point
17:42
<Gadi>
do any clients work as advertised?
17:42
<moldy>
i have only tested the atom clients and a gigabyte client. both of them don't work.
17:42
<Gadi>
if not, sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386 dpkg -l acpid
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<moldy>
Gadi: ii acpid
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<Gadi>
moldy: if you can get a shell on the client, scope out its /proc/acpi dir
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<moldy>
will try that, need some minutes to get a shell
17:47
<nubae>
http://www.disklessworkstations.com/cgi-bin/web/contestlogos.html
17:47
<Lns>
nubae: nice!
17:48
(I cant believe mine is up there)
17:48
sbalneav: ooo, yours is nice too =)
17:49
<vagrantc>
linux terminal server program?
17:49
<Lns>
haha, i was about to say...
17:49
its a nice logo besides that ;)
17:49* vagrantc wonders if todd harris gets another try?
17:49
<Lns>
you can submit up to 3
17:53
Ok, i'm off to test out the nspr fix - wish me luck!
17:53
<moldy>
Gadi: what am i looking for?
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<Gadi>
moldy: do you have a /proc/acpi/button/power dir?
17:55
<moldy>
Gadi: yep. /proc/acpi/button/power/PWR{B,F}
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<moldy>
Gadi: http://rafb.net/p/jZl3Vv60.html should acpid appear here?
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hah. /etc/init.d/acpid start and it works
18:02
<mistik1>
so far my vote would go to sbalneav
18:03
on the logo contests that is
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<Gadi>
moldy: sorry - yeah, sounds like acpi is not running by default
18:04
<moldy>
Gadi: how do i change that? update-rc.d tells me that links for acpid already exist, but i don't see them in the filesystem
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<Gadi>
you prolly didnt have /proc mounted in the chroot when it installed, so it didn't set up the rc.d files
18:05
did you do that in the chroot?
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(update-rc.d)
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<moldy>
yep
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<Gadi>
you should be able to do a "remove" and then add them back
18:05
update-rc.d -f remove acpid
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(or acpid remove - I never remember)
18:06
:)
18:06
dont forget to reroll the image
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<moldy>
that was it.
18:11
arguably, acpid should be started by default
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<Ryan52>
warren, so I'm trying to fix a bug in Fedora that's really pissing me off. based on that link you gave me a month or so ago, I figured out how to add the patch, how to build the rpm, and how to install it. but I'm not really sure how to get the existing spec file and all the other needed pieces...is there an automatic command to do this for me? or if I learn how to use CVS will checking out the repo be enough? or should I just manually download the requi
19:57
(vtw, this is unrelated to ltsp, but ya...:D)
19:57
*btw
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<warren>
Ryan52: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Using_Fedora_CVS
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cvs co packagename
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cd packagename/F-10
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make test-srpm
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<Ryan52>
aha. thanks.
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<Ryan52>
yay! I managed to do it! :p
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<johnny>
k
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<Lns>
Damn it, where's Gadi when you need a good yo mama joke
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<Ryan52>
heh
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