IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 25 May 2008   (all times are UTC)

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<naptastic>
Hi--is anyone here?
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<cpunches>
we're here
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we're just drunk
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<alkisg>
ogra, I think there's a way to only do 1 dhcp request upon booting the ltsp clients, using pxelinux IPAPPEND 2 option to pass the ip address, gw etc information to the kernel. Is anyone interested in this?
02:06
IPAPPEND 2 ==> IPAPPEND 1
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<majikins>
hi is anyone here from south africa?
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<beakburke>
hey, did everyone get the email from warren?
09:31
<new2linux>
hi all, i've installed the ltsp-utils noarch for fedora 9, but somehow can't find the programs on the start menu or where ever
09:32
does anyone knows how to access this program or should i do it via the terminal?
09:32
i'd really like to use the edubuntu that already support ltsp by default
09:32
but then, the os don't support flash player
09:33
really confuse on choosing the distro that support ltsp and flash player at the same time, any suggestion?
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<stgraber>
what's the problem with edubuntu/ubuntu and flash ?
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<beakburke>
I was under the impression that flash worked on edubuntu/ubuntu
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<new2linux>
i can't find the flash player 9 installation for ubuntu
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<johnny_>
it's flash-nonfree package
09:36
you don't use it from adobe site
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<new2linux>
i see
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nonfree as for the term like shareware?
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<johnny_>
i guess
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<new2linux>
:(
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<stgraber>
no, you don't have to pay for it
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<johnny_>
it's the only option
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<stgraber>
it's nonfree as non-opensource
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<johnny_>
yeah
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<new2linux>
i see
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<johnny_>
same as any other flash package
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it's just what debian calls it
09:37* johnny_ forgot what shareware meant
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<stgraber>
so just install this package, close firefox, reopen and flash will be working
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<new2linux>
i've installed ubuntu and re-install to fedora 9, coz i can't install flash player on ubuntu
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but, now i'm on fedora 9, i can't install ltsp
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very confussing
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<johnny_>
there are docs on ubuntu site
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for flash
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<new2linux>
this all far from windows
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<beakburke>
If you want to get LTSP working on Fedora you should follow the instructions at the wiki
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https://fedorahosted.org/k12linux/
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<new2linux>
are there any programs that like .exe (executable) files like windows
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that you just simply click on it and the program will do installation
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or like macintosh?
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<johnny_>
usually you use the package manager
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you hardly ever download packages yourself
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just search for them and click install
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<new2linux>
i did read all of it
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there are many different type of files
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iso files
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ltsp, ltsp-utils
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<beakburke>
when in doubt, just follow the directions
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<new2linux>
tps://fedorahosted.org/k12linux/ <--- nice info, thank you very much
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<beakburke>
Just follow the install guide
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<new2linux>
i've been going to the ltsp.org website
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sure things, thanks beakburke
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<beakburke>
ahhh, that's mostly LTSP developers
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but with LTSP 5, the distros have to integrate everything in
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<new2linux>
let me try to bringing this thin-client up again
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i see
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no wonder i'm all confused
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i'm no programmers
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<beakburke>
LTSP used to be a whole distribution on top of a distribution
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<new2linux>
-_-
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<beakburke>
now it's just stuff that you integrate into an existing one, that lets the LTSP developers spend more time on the LTSP specific stuff and less time maintaining a distribution.
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So the Fedora and ubuntu devs had to do things to make LTSP5 work on their distros
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<new2linux>
i get the point
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<beakburke>
same with the debian (skolelinux) people
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<new2linux>
so, i must go to the distro site instead of the ltsp dev site
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but, i did do installation for ltsp-utils for redhat/fedora, the ltsp-utils-0.25-0.noarch.rpm
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should i do something like uninstalling it, before doing the k12 ltsp?
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k12linux
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<beakburke>
if you want help installing LTSP on a specific distro, I'd start with that distros documentation/support (K12LTSP/Fedora, edubuntu, or skolelinux).
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you can if you'd like
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<new2linux>
how to uninstall a program on linux
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<beakburke>
if that would make things easier for you
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<new2linux>
this is really funny question
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<beakburke>
on fedora its yum remove programname
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if you use a commandline
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or just go to the package manager GUI, search for your program, mark it for removal, and hit apply.
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<new2linux>
i see
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<new2linux>
i've been trying to locate the yum icon on the start menu on fedora 8
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but, couldn't find one
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<beakburke>
yum is the name of the command line tool
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just go to the administration menu
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or the add/remove software under the programs menu
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<petre>
or install yumex
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<beakburke>
wait, do you have edubuntu or Fedora installed?
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<petre>
'yum install yumex -y'
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<new2linux>
fedora 8
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i just did tried the command line
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i go to root, using su -
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i'm on root
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<petre>
new2linux, I see 'Yum Extender' under Applications/System Tools on my f8
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yum extender is a graphical front end to yum
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<new2linux>
i type yum remove programme ltsp-utils-0.25-0.noarch.rpm
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but no match for argument
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<beakburke>
just yum remove ltsp-utils
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"programname" is the name of whatever you are trying to remove
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<new2linux>
ouch
09:52
ok
09:53
let me try again
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<beakburke>
easy mistake to make
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<new2linux>
complete
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:)
09:53
thank you guys for assisting
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i'm beginning to love linux
09:54
free virus world
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<petre>
new2linux, did you find Yum Extender in the menu?
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<new2linux>
i've not yet install any anti-virus
09:54
could you imagine on windows, connecting an os without anti-virus...???
09:54
petre: no
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can't find any name with yum on the menu
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ould you imagine on windows, connecting an os to the internet without anti-virus...???
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<petre>
then try 'yum install yumex' at the commad line to install it
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<new2linux>
ok
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<beakburke>
I think he's using Fedora 9
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<petre>
he said he's running f8
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<new2linux>
sorry, was about to install fedora 9
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i forgot i use the fedora 8 i386 installation
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<beakburke>
ahhhh
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<new2linux>
i did tried the fedora 9 x86_65 on intel xeon 3065
09:57* petre is running f8 today, hope to move to f9 today or tomorrow
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<new2linux>
but on the installation boot got this dmar:drhd error
09:57
x86_64 sorry
09:57
now, about the architecture
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isn't x86_64 meant for processor that support 64 bit?
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<petre>
yes
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<new2linux>
and i think intel xeon 3065 has em64t, which mean supporting 64 bit os right?
09:58
<petre>
yes, I think xeons have been 64-bit for several years now
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<new2linux>
i've got this dmar:drhd (flags: 0x0000001c)base: 0x0000feb010000000
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<petre>
(always perhaps?)
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<beakburke>
hmmm, it just hangs?
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<new2linux>
dmar:drhd is about intel virtualization if i'm not wrong
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yes
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<new2linux>
on the installation boot
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i've tried to switch the intel virtualization on and off
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but still get the same problems
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can't wonder what making that happened
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petre: thank for the information on yumex
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but shouldn't fedora distribute the program by default?
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<beakburke>
I think it does have another GUI package manager buried in the menu somewhere
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<petre>
I thought it did; it's in my menu, but it's possible I installed it manually, can't really recall
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does synaptic work on fedora? or just debian-based?
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<new2linux>
i don't know
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<beakburke>
for the life of me I can remember what it is, had to format my test machine's HD to do some repair work for someone so I have to reinstall too!
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<petre>
syntaptic is available for f8
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you might try that too; it's anothe gui frontend
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I actually like synaptic better than yum ex, although I mostly use the command line
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I think searching for packages is easier & quicker under synaptic than yumex
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<new2linux>
i see
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i'll try both
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well, back to thin-client
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k12linux
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talk to u guys later
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<beakburke>
have fun
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<petre>
good luck
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beakburke, are you running f9?
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<beakburke>
yeah, well I was
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until the aforementioned HD formatting incident
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but I will be again soon
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<petre>
past-tense? what formatting incident?
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<beakburke>
oh, had to borrow the HD from my test machine
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which was running FC 9
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my Macbook and my slackware production box are still running
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<petre>
my test machine currently has k12 el5 on it, I've got a demo later this week for a school
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<beakburke>
and the ubuntu desktop machine that I am rescuing for someone else
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<petre>
but I think I'll try to move my laptop from f8 to f9
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<beakburke>
format and reinstall execpt /home?
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<petre>
what I was really wondering is what you were using for the thin client with the f9
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a virtual tc or real tc
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<beakburke>
real tc
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I got about a 5-6 dell optiplex sitting around that I kept for this purpose
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GX1
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That's how I got the instructions for booting real clients written
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<petre>
or copy /home to, say, USB stick or another server, then restore after the install
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but gnome always seems to get screwed up when I do that
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new gnome chokes on old settings stored in ~
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those are great tcs
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for this school, the local tech college has offered to donate a bunch of GX1 machines for the tcs
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<beakburke>
yeah, that's why kept them
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not pretty, but they work well
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<warren>
AMD Geode GX1?
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<beakburke>
no no
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<petre>
function over form, I say
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<beakburke>
optiplex GX1
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<warren>
ok
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<petre>
intel, i810 chipset
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<warren>
Geode GX1 is a bit painful
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oh nice, intel
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did you have a chance to test the X driver without xorg.conf?
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<petre>
warren, thought you were unavailable (?)
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<beakburke>
yeah
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I was about to edit the wik to that effect
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<warren>
I have a few minutes now
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have to leave soon
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<beakburke>
you wanted me to try to boot the GX1?
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optiplex that is
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<beakburke>
ahh, eric is here
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<beakburke>
how are things going on your end eric?
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<petre>
when was fedora 9 released?
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I'm trying to figure out if the 'Fedora 9 Preview' DVD I have is recent enough to work with, or if I have to download something newer
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<beakburke>
May 13th if the website is correct
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the preview was apr 17th
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<warren>
petre: reportedly jigdo can update your DVD without downloading the entire thing
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petre: or maybe rsync will do it
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<petre>
hmm, not familiar with jigdo
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<warren>
jigdo depends upon template files that you might not find
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<petre>
I think I'll go the rsync route
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<beakburke>
yeah, I see you are still logged in
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I think I still have the preview too
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actually
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<petre>
does rsync work over http?
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I think I've only used it with ftp previously
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<beakburke>
say, is whomever that was having the freezeup problem with their FC9 X86_64 on the xeons still around here?
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<petre>
new2linux was the nick I think
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<new2linux>
still here
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i'm using intel xeon 3065
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<beakburke>
ahh
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<new2linux>
and it's just showing that dmar:drhd all the way non-stop
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<beakburke>
in the boot options have you tried acpi=ht?
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<new2linux>
i can't get to anything that i can choose any
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stuck on that
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<beakburke>
I mean before you even boot the CD
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<new2linux>
the bios motherboard?
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<beakburke>
the screen that loads before you actually hit enter to boot the cd to load the installer
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IIRC
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<new2linux>
owh
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i have the silent boot, so the screen only showing intel logos
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i'll try the acpi=ht
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<beakburke>
let me get my testbox powered up here
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just need to see the boot menu
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then I can try to be more clear
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<beakburke>
my test desk is a mess
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i have 6 pcs there, and only room for 2
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<new2linux>
ltsp-build-client taking quite some time :(
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how do u arrange them all?
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@.@
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<new2linux>
acpi=ht is to on the hyper-threading?
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<beakburke>
ok
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when you boot the install cd/dvd
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at the menu it gives you, it says press tab to edit options
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do you get that far?
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<new2linux>
i don't remember
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as i recall
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only intel logo and then the fedora 9 option
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to install or upgrade the existing os gui or text
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test mem
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and so on
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<beakburke>
ahh, well if you get the fedora 9 option, thats where you do the
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<new2linux>
that kind of options
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<beakburke>
yep, that's where
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at that screen
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<new2linux>
ok
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edit option?
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<beakburke>
just add that
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yes
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there are a couple things you can try there
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but that is a likely one
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with the xeons and all
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<new2linux>
i thought the os don't support the proc
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i'll try that later
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just need to get this ltsp success first on f8
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still building client
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haiz
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<beakburke>
you also might try adding "nodmraid" and/or acpi=off
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<new2linux>
i see, is that what causing the problem?
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i'm not using raid
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only 1 harddrive
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<beakburke>
the controller and that kernel maybe
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I dunno
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I was just reading this http://www.fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=188326
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and it sounded about right
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<new2linux>
i'll try the nodmraid first later
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if it stop the freezing, i think that what's causing it
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<petre>
anyone know if I need any parameters for rsync besides -auv to update the DVD I have of f9?
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<beakburke>
say petre, there is a GUI tool in FC9 for add/remove software under system -> administration
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don't think it's yumex though
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<new2linux>
what is the size to build a thin-client?
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it just don't stop
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isn't thin should be small
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<laga>
the client itself is small, but not necessarily the OS ;)
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<new2linux>
i downloading an os
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i thought the building client would only take 5-15 minutes
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<beakburke>
it's pretty hefty the first time
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not as big as all Fedora mind you :D
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<new2linux>
hehe
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i'd really hope not
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<beakburke>
it's like building a partial OS really
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just the minimal stuff, but you have to build it, so it takes a little while
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<new2linux>
i have u guys around
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<laga>
new2linux: building the client only takes 20 minutes here.. but i use apt-cacher ;)
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(and i've got a fast CPU)
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<new2linux>
my connection only 768kb
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how to use the apt-catcher to build the k12linux client?
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<laga>
i think apt-cacher will only work for debian-based distros
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oh, k12linux is based on debian, right?
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<beakburke>
nope
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<new2linux>
no
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<beakburke>
ubuntu
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<new2linux>
rpm right?
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<beakburke>
yes
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<new2linux>
only ubuntu using debian if i'm not wrong
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<beakburke>
rpm is a redhat/SUSE thing mostly
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and their progeny
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<laga>
new2linux: apt-cacher will only speed up subsequent builds ;)
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<beakburke>
whereas debian and all its decendants use apt-get and .deb
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<new2linux>
anyway, no point of trying anything else now
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half way to stop and start again
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<beakburke>
yep
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<new2linux>
it don't show the progress of how many have been downloaded
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hate guessing
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<beakburke>
you know what I do in these situations
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<laga>
go for a coffee?
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<beakburke>
Why yes!!! Well, in my case hot chocolate or something
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I'm a bit of a geek freak
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as I don
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't like coffee
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That really ought to be an official instruction in the install manual "insert favorite activity here"
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serf web, get coffee, bike ride, snow shoe, etc
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<laga>
beakburke: i don't like coffee either
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<beakburke>
well good to know, I'm not the only one
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<laga>
heh
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i know someone else who doesn't like coffee either.
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yay.
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so we're three now
11:39* beakburke chuckles
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<new2linux>
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
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i've got this wrong
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it returns: -bash: /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0: Permission denied
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http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_fedora_core_4_p3
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how to write the script on a text editor and execute it on a command line?
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<beakburke>
ahh
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you don't acutally run ifcfg-eth0
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that's just a file that holds the settings
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<new2linux>
yeah it say use a text editor
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You will need to setup ltspbr0 so that it associates with the correct network card on boot. Using a text editor, add BRIDGE=ltspbr0 to /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-ethN where the "N" in ethN is the ethernet interface facing your terminals. Then restart the service "network", either from System -> Administration -> Services in the GUI, or by running service network restart in the terminal as the root user.
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<beakburke>
ok, you need to open it with root permissions
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<new2linux>
ok
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<beakburke>
otherwise you won't be able to write to it
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that's the problem
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<new2linux>
i'm on root
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[root@74 ~]#
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<beakburke>
ahh
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<new2linux>
no?
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<beakburke>
yes
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so vi /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
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<new2linux>
how to add the command BRIDGE=ltspbr0 to /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0
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<beakburke>
then arrow down towards the end
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hit "i"
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then enter
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for a new line
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on the new line enter BRIDGE=ltspbr0
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<beakburke>
then hit escape
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then :wq
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to save and exit
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<new2linux>
done
12:05
i restart the network now?
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<beakburke>
service network restart
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from the command prompt
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<new2linux>
done
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<beakburke>
are you using two network cards?
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<new2linux>
so, now i can try to bring the client up
12:06
yes
12:06
1 for lan and the other for internet
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eth0 for the lan, eth1 for intenret
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<beakburke>
which one is facing the internet?
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<new2linux>
eth1
12:07
eth0 facing the network
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<beakburke>
ahhh, it's acually easier to do the other way
12:07
eth0 faces the client
12:07
huh
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<new2linux>
because eth0 is 10/100/1000
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<beakburke>
cause if you use eth0 for the thin clients you have to disable the
12:07
<new2linux>
and eth1 is only 10/100
12:07
<beakburke>
Yeah, I had the same problem
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<new2linux>
i need the gig nic for the lan
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<beakburke>
:D
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<beakburke>
and easier to kill "NetworkManager" than to monkey around making eth0 into eth1
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<new2linux>
disabling the network manager
12:08
i've did that
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<beakburke>
yup, under the AdvancedNetworkSetup link
12:08
on that wiki
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<new2linux>
so, i can try to connect the client now?
12:09
i have to save this chatting
12:09
<beakburke>
yep
12:09
run service NetworkManger off
12:10
whoops
12:10
I mean service NetworkManager stop
12:10
to stop it, then chkconfig NetworkManager off
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to disable it
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<new2linux>
it's already stopped
12:10
<beakburke>
in the future
12:10
you did that already?
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<new2linux>
already
12:11
but, the client still can't get through
12:11
i did set on the bios
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to boot from the lan
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<beakburke>
what happens when you try to boot from the lan
12:11
you might try to restart your server
12:12
make sure all the setting have taken effect WRT your network
12:12
as many files as we edited
12:12
:D
12:12
<new2linux>
disk boot failure
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<beakburke>
that's the client??
12:13
<new2linux>
yes
12:13
<beakburke>
ok, power off the client
12:13
restart the server
12:13
<new2linux>
ok
12:13
just have to save this chat 1st
12:13
<beakburke>
ahh
12:13
you are chatting from the server
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:D
12:14
<new2linux>
yes
12:14
how 2 save a chat
12:14
this also different from mirc
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how to log the chat?
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<beakburke>
what are you using?
12:15
<new2linux>
xchat
12:15
i did click on the log
12:15
enable logging of conversations
12:16
that's all what i take?
12:16
is this chat now being log from the start
12:16
or just being log from where i just click the choice to log?
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<beakburke>
good questoin
12:17
you can probably check
12:17
<new2linux>
hehe
12:17
i rather copy n paste 1st
12:17
<beakburke>
well taht works too
12:18
<new2linux>
the scrolling takes time
12:18
be right back
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<beakburke>
ok
12:20
<new2linux>
restarting server
12:20
see u in a while
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<new2linux>
still failed
12:26
http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect_setup_fedora_core_4_p3
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<beakburke>
what about that page?
12:27
<new2linux>
should i create virtual interface?
12:27
<beakburke>
nope
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<beakburke>
if you run ifconfig
12:27
you should already have an "virtural" interface called ltspbr0
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<new2linux>
ltspbr0 is the virtual right
12:28
<beakburke>
we just want to tie it to an actual hardware device
12:28
<new2linux>
so, what is wrong?
12:29
before i go to the permanent network setup
12:29
i configure the temporary network setup
12:29
so i configure bot
12:29
both
12:29
<beakburke>
nope
12:29
just one or the other
12:29
<new2linux>
brctl addif ltspbr0 eth1
12:29
how to undo the temporary network setup
12:29
<beakburke>
that happened when you rebooted
12:29
that's why it's temporary
12:30
<new2linux>
i see
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<new2linux>
clueless
12:30
<beakburke>
the permanent one edits your settings files so that you always have an LTSP server
12:30
<new2linux>
@.@
12:30
<beakburke>
that's perfectly OK
12:30
believe me, we're all still learning this
12:30
<new2linux>
i've also shutdown the firewall
12:30
<beakburke>
ahh
12:31
<new2linux>
so, it shouldn't be a problem right
12:31
<beakburke>
nope
12:31
<new2linux>
hmm
12:31
<beakburke>
all this stuff gets reset unless it's disabled when you restart
12:31
instead of just stopped
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<new2linux>
when i restart
12:32
something is not ok
12:32
the dhcpd
12:32
and another 1 under it
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<beakburke>
what does it say, do you remember
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<new2linux>
i didn't get it
12:32
on restart detail
12:32
<beakburke>
hmm
12:32
just a sec
12:32
<new2linux>
where everything written ok, that dhcpd is not ok
12:32
i restart again
12:33
to see it
12:33
be back
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<beakburke>
hey
12:37
<new2linux>
it say dhcpd failed
12:37
<beakburke>
ok
12:37
<new2linux>
dhcrelay failed
12:37
those 2 failed
12:37
<beakburke>
ok
12:38
<new2linux>
it affect the thin client to get ip add. right
12:38
<beakburke>
do this run chkconfig dhcpd off
12:38
then service dhcpd stop
12:38
then service ltsp-dhcpd restart
12:39
and chkconfig ltsp-dhcpd on
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<new2linux>
done
12:39
should i restart the network?
12:39
<beakburke>
nah
12:39
just try booting a client now
12:40
see what happens
12:40
<new2linux>
so, the command
12:40
is to shutdown the ordinary dhcp
12:40
<beakburke>
yep
12:40
<new2linux>
and bring up the ltsp-dhcp
12:40
<beakburke>
exactly
12:40
<new2linux>
i see
12:40
nice
12:40
i'll try the client now
12:40
<beakburke>
ltsp-dhcpd runs only on ltspbr0
12:40
<new2linux>
the virtual interface
12:41
<beakburke>
which is all you should need, you aren't doing dhcpd to the outside world
12:41
<new2linux>
but still failure
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<beakburke>
what does it say when you start ltsp-dhcpd
12:41
was that ok
12:41
<new2linux>
ok
12:41
shutting down ok
12:42
starting ltsp-dhcpd ok
12:42
<beakburke>
so where are you hanging up on the client boot?
12:42
what's the last thing on the screen when it tries to boot
12:42
<new2linux>
disk boot failure
12:42
insert system disk and press enter
12:43
i did set to boot from lan for the 1st boot
12:43
and disabled all the other boot
12:43
from the mobo bios
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<beakburke>
it's not lan booting at all
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<new2linux>
it's not?
12:46
how 2 lan boot?
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<beakburke>
disk boot failure means it's not seeing a bootable disk on the mahcine
12:46
what kind of PC are you using for a thin client?
12:46
<new2linux>
foxconn mobo with p4 intel and 256 mb memory
12:46
i only taken off the harddrive
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<beakburke>
you have it set to network boot
12:47
in the bios
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<new2linux>
there are 1 - 3 boot
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<beakburke>
I mean set to boot from LAN first, and have network booting enabled
12:47
<new2linux>
1st boot, i choose it to boot from lan
12:48
no network booting option
12:48
<beakburke>
hmm, try disabling the other two options
12:48
<new2linux>
i found that kind of thing on other mobo
12:48
but not this one
12:48
done that
12:48
disabled all the other and set the 1st one to boot from lan
12:49
the nic card is from realtek
12:49
if i'm not wrong, now a day nic card should be pxe enabled already right?
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<beakburke>
should be
12:51
<new2linux>
Realtek RTL8100C
12:51
<beakburke>
most modern ones are
12:51
<new2linux>
support wake-up frame
12:51
<beakburke>
that's not a guarantee though I suppose
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<new2linux>
no
12:52
there's a link to check wether a nic is pxe ready or not
12:52
i forgot that link
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<beakburke>
oh, well that would be helpful
12:54
after the bios screen you should get a little screen when it tries to boot from the network card
12:54
the card's name and stuff flashes up on the screen when it tries to PXE boot
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<new2linux>
i know
12:55
but it just go direct to that failure
12:55
it didn't even showing a connection
12:55
tried to connect but fail
12:56
just fail like that
12:56
<beakburke>
hmmmm
12:56
this is the kind of this that makes me want to take a look at the bios to make sure we aren't missing anything
12:56
and maybe try a different NIC, just in case
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<new2linux>
onboard lan boot rom
12:58
disabled
12:58
<beakburke>
ok
12:58
<new2linux>
gee
12:58
<beakburke>
that needs to be enabled
12:58
<new2linux>
yes
12:58
<beakburke>
:D
12:58
that was that second setting that I was talking about
12:58
<new2linux>
i'm seeing something working
12:58
:D
12:58
ltsp.org on the screen
12:58
yahooo!!
12:58
<beakburke>
if it asks PXE or RTL? under that you want PXE
12:58
is it going?????
12:59
<new2linux>
my 1st time on thin-client
12:59
<beakburke>
YEEEEEEEEHAW
12:59
<new2linux>
yesss
12:59
i love thin-client!!
12:59
thank you so muchhh!!
12:59
<beakburke>
no problem
12:59
I love it when stuff works!!!!
12:59
<new2linux>
without you i'll be spending maybe 5-14 days
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doing this things
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<Q-FUNK>
ogra: got back home in one piece? :)
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<new2linux>
tomorrow, i'll be setting up squid
13:00
next thing to be done
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<beakburke>
that should be fun
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<new2linux>
yess
13:01
now time to sleep
13:01
can sleep well now
13:01
:D
13:01
<beakburke>
yeha, no kidding
13:01
<new2linux>
so, see u around
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<beakburke>
just remember that the squid connections are comming from the server
13:01
<new2linux>
yes
13:01
<beakburke>
cause that's where the browser is running on
13:01
<new2linux>
ok
13:01
backing up conversation
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<beakburke>
gnite then
13:03
<new2linux>
gnite, see u around
13:03
thx once again
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<Q-FUNK>
warren: what was the offset you used with mkelfimage ?
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