IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 13 January 2007   (all times are UTC)

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<mathesis>
hi vagrantc
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<mathesis>
Sysinfo for 'debian': Linux 2.6.18-3-686 running KDE 3.5.5, CPU: PentiumIII(Coppermine) at 648 MHz (1297 bogomips), , RAM: 176/186MB, 82 proc's, 5.34min up
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<cousinbeppe>
hi!
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<cousinbeppe^>
hi
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<krinns>
hi all
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<krinns>
i have itsp installed on unbuntu
05:24
its all good
05:24
i have one laserjet hp 1022 printer
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it prints very slow
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and at time get paused
05:24
any idea
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<budgee>
anyone awake?
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<budgee>
hellllooooooooooo! someone be awake please?
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<budgee>
well, someone familiar with the LBE
09:35
if not, then, enjoy the kip
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<s4ck>
hola
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<J45p3r>
cliebow:ping
12:02
if you see this, I fixed the dgbypass and have it working, had to manually edit the dansguardianf1.conf file manually
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<mistik1>
!seen jammmcq
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<ltspbot>
mistik1: I have not seen jammmcq.
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<mistik1>
!seen jammcq
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<ltspbot>
mistik1: jammcq was last seen in #ltsp 15 hours, 37 minutes, and 23 seconds ago: <jammcq> cool
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<budgee>
!seen dberkholz
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<ltspbot>
budgee: dberkholz was last seen in #ltsp 2 days, 22 hours, 4 minutes, and 51 seconds ago: <dberkholz> budgee: i'm here
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<budgee>
!seen envite
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<ltspbot>
budgee: envite was last seen in #ltsp 1 day, 6 hours, 53 minutes, and 21 seconds ago: <Envite> bye all!
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<cliebow>
j45p3r: cool...any mystery to getting web proxy running?
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<J45p3r>
no, it's done through the gui
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couple checkboxes
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<irule>
hi
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hi there
15:27
are there simple squid examples for a small school?
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<cliebow>
i musta missed em
15:28
irule: we just use smoothwall in a lot of places
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<J45p3r>
yea, under the services > web proxy tab, check transparent and enabled
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<cliebow>
k
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<J45p3r>
headed out for the evening, chat w/ you later
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<cliebow>
Coolio
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balls..locked myself out...ill fix that via nx
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whhoops..cant
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<J45p3r>
you can mess with the one on the bench if you want 10.10.0.103
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if you vnc to that address you get port forwarded to an XP machine on the green side to test the filter with (10.50.255.253)
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<cliebow>
\i might take a look
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<mistik1>
Its about time I get off my butt and gentoo-ize the ltspadmin and ltspcfg scripts
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<vagrantc>
mistik1: rather than porting ltsp 5.0 to gentoo ?
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we need some ltspadmin/ltspcfg-like scripts for ltsp 5.0
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<mistik1>
I will be doing the soon enough
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<vagrantc>
ah, good.
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<rjune>
mistik1 !
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<mistik1>
that should be quite easy with gentoo
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rjune: sup bro
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<rjune>
namuch
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<mistik1>
vagrantc: the problem is I have 2 clients right now that are deployed on gentoo and I get tired doing all the easy stuff by hand ;-)
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what I need first is to make ebuilds for the ltsp specific tools
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vagrantc: You would with the ltsp5 implimentation on ubuntu, yes?
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s/would/work/
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<vagrantc>
mistik1: more debian. but i work closely with ogra, who does ubuntu.
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<mistik1>
ok
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Maybe you guys could help me get my head back around ltsp core
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<vagrantc>
sure. dberkholz has also expressed interest on ltsp5.0 for gentoo
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<mistik1>
cool
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I'm gonna get on it asap
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downloading a stage tarball to get started later
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<jammcq>
hey kids
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<dberkholz>
mistik1: yeah, we're already working on much of it
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<jammcq>
had a damned switch failure here at home today
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<dberkholz>
mistik1: dev.gentoo.org/~dberkholz/ltsp/ has some of my work. the Gentoo/ directory is for the client builder, and ltsp.txt is some notes on what needs to happen but not that current anymore.
18:36
mistik1: the main thing that it seems like nobody's doing yet is porting the init scripts over.
18:38
mistik1: i've got an ltspfs ebuild in my overlay
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<vagrantc>
dberkholz: i started working on splitting up the init script bits into a plugin system.
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<dberkholz>
oh, cool
18:38
we'll be able to use a lot of the code, but we'll need to wrap it in our dependency-based script
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mistik1: oh yeah, and lsb-release is packaged now as well
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jammcq: btw, i just wrote an ltsp5 / gentoo article for this week's lwn.
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jammcq: dunno whether you keep track of publicity and such
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<jammcq>
oooh, cool
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<dberkholz>
it came out last wednesday
18:41* jammcq needs to renew his LWN subscription
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<mistik1>
dberkholz: this is great news, I look forward to working with you on this
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<dberkholz>
mistik1: pioto's also working on making a real build system so we can just do a 'make; make install' for the ltsp core
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<jammcq>
dberkholz: there's a "Articles about LTSP" link on the ltsp wiki
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<mistik1>
I've been after doing the gentoo porting of ltsp but life did not let me get away with doing anything as yet
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<dberkholz>
not sure where things stand on that front
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<mistik1>
dberkholz: why would another build system be needed outside of portage to get any of it done?
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<dberkholz>
mistik1: so we don't need to duplicate the same 500 lines of crap in every distribution that packages it
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"put file X from here to there" etc
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<mistik1>
hmm
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<dberkholz>
centralize the complexity
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<mistik1>
dberkholz: I'll reserve any further comment untill after i've had a chance to review what's been done to date
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until even
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<dberkholz>
most of the time i've spent on it has been learning how ltsp works, not actually doing any porting.
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<mistik1>
ok
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<dberkholz>
basically 3 things to do -- the client-builder plugins, the init scripts, and packaging a few other things like ltspfs, lsb-release, etc.
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the first and third are under way, i've tried to talk 2 people into doing the second and never seen anything
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it may be that i'll end up doing that too, as soon as i get the client-builder finished
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i've been sidetracked by a number of other projects, writing, and my real job over the past couple of months
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<mistik1>
dberkholz: It will take a few days to review all this
18:54
When I looked at what debian/Ubuntu were doing with that build system it made me think, there is no need to replicate this for gentoo but I could be wrong
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<dberkholz>
mistik1: i just queried you a link to the gentoo/ltsp story.
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it won't be publicly available for another few days
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<mistik1>
I see it thanks
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<dberkholz>
even if the content isn't that new, there are a number of useful links in it
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<vagrantc>
mistik1: i'm curious what exactly you're talking about the debian/ubuntu "build system" ?
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<mistik1>
I dont remember his name now but a fellow was working on a draft of how debian would handle ltsp in thier distro in the future
19:00
Was that you?
19:00
maybe it was ogra
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<vagrantc>
well, i've been the most active personworking on ltsp in debian for the last 7 or so months ...
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and i've written some things describing how it works
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<mistik1>
vagrantc: were you also working with the Splashy authors?
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<vagrantc>
mistik1: not directly... though maybe there is some overlap
19:03* vagrantc is very interested in what people are saying about how ltsp will be working in debian in the future :)
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<vagrantc>
oh, yes. otavio salvador works on ltsp and splashy
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<mistik1>
THAT'S who it was
19:04
Otavio
19:04
gosh have I really been away that long ;-)
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<vagrantc>
otavio did the bulk of the work on the plugins system we use for ltsp-build-client
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<mistik1>
bbiaf guys
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<jamil1>
vagrantc: hi!!
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<vagrantc>
jamil1: hi. how goes?
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<mathesis>
good
19:10
vagrantc: como esta el soporte para Local Device Acces en muekow?
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<vagrantc>
mathesis: yo trato :)
19:11
<mathesis>
vagrantc:ahora tengo 2 pcs mas
19:12
yo quiero instalar ltsp4.2
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y ltspfs
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<vagrantc>
yo no conozco ltsp 4.2 , solo 5.0/muekow
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<mathesis>
ya me lo habias dicho
19:13
si me recuerdas
19:13
soy de mexico
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<daniQ>
cliebow? have you checked your e-mail?
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<cliebow>
i will
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daniQ:dont see anythig from you
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<daniQ>
swhgardens
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<cliebow>
no! cliebow@ltsp.org?
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<daniQ>
yes
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<cliebow>
hmmm.jammcq had some sort of meltdown today..
20:04
<daniQ>
paypal?
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there should be something there?
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<cliebow>
try at midmaine.com
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dont see anything ftom ltsp.org
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be back in 10
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<daniQ>
k
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<cliebow>
put the burhers on..
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daniQ:/burhers/burgers/g
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<daniQ>
bug/14911 is bug that is affecting me
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<cliebow>
ahhh.ill look
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<daniQ>
i tried to set up a dialogue window can you see it?
20:09
it is cliebow
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<cliebow>
hmm..prob you havnt validated your NICK
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<daniQ>
i went to your name...right clicked and selected open dialogue window
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http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=286069&highlight=firefox+crash
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<cliebow>
i opened one for me..seemed ok..you need to /NICK IDENTIFY
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<dberkholz>
heh
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<daniQ>
is that in the input box under Nick Completion...
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<cliebow>
daniQ:did you try it??
20:26
err not sire
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<dberkholz>
i think /msg nickserv identify is what you want.
20:26
unless you're trying to change your nick to 'identify'
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<cliebow>
dbekholz:much obliged!
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<dberkholz>
cliebow: your client not have nick tab completion?
20:27
<cliebow>
i was thinking out loud..fuzzy as usual
20:27
just xchat
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<daniQ>
where to i type this...is it under settings or something else....i'm flying bline
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blind
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<dberkholz>
cliebow: xchat has that .. i'm saying this because you misspelled mine
20:27
<cliebow>
me...misspell??
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<dberkholz>
but db<tab> solves that problem
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<cliebow>
ahh1
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<cliebow>
dberkholz:cool..now i can misspell in triplicate
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daniq:did you try to edit that file?
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<daniQ>
i am lost
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<cliebow>
/etc/firefox/firefoxrc
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<daniQ>
permission denied
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<cliebow>
sudo?
20:31
my dear
20:32
8~)
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<daniQ>
permission denied with sudo
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<cliebow>
that is wierd
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sudo cat /etc/firefox/firefoxrc
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<daniQ>
i typed sudo /etc/firefox/firefoxrc
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<cliebow>
sudo vim /etc/firefox/firefoxrc
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<daniQ>
the cat one worked...auto and esd involve the use of esddsp = buggy = unstable firefox
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<cliebow>
export XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1
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add that line
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<daniQ>
see https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/29760
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<cliebow>
sudo /etc/firefox/firefoxrc..that asks to execute the file which is not executable
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sudo vim /etc/firefox/firefoxrc
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asks to run vim on that file
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press i to insert text
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<daniQ>
k
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<cliebow>
you are a trooper to stick with it
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<daniQ>
i'm going insaine and terrified that you didn't get the papypal stuff....ahhhhh
20:39
but there is always another day and what is the worst thing to happen
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what should i put for text?
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<cliebow>
il check my paypal acct
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<daniQ>
i wish i were about a million times more computer skilled....i do love the puzzle though!
20:40
can i borrow your ubuntu book?
20:40
<cliebow>
ohhhh.. rosannepouw@hotmail.com
20:41
cripes//it id in Dutch'
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it is in Dutch'
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<daniQ>
dutch money?
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<cliebow>
54.75
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no ..the text
20:41
<daniQ>
yes but in us $
20:42
oh yes she is from the Netherlands
20:42
<cliebow>
yes
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<daniQ>
i feel SOOOO much better now!
20:42
<cliebow>
in us#
20:42
<daniQ>
all is well in the world
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<cliebow>
$
20:42
<daniQ>
you rule!
20:42
<cliebow>
o thought that was a bug report
20:42
<daniQ>
so how do i continue to fix by diseased firefox
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<cliebow>
20:44
Babel Fish Translation Help
20:44
In English:
20:44
You have a payment not yet carried out!
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<cliebow>
Rosanne Pouw you have zojuist sent a payment by means of PayPal.
20:45
i will look
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<daniQ>
so it's in process?
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<cliebow>
i dont se any credit to my account
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<daniQ>
huh...maybe it takes a while and will be there by tomorrow.....i have no idea how that works
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<cliebow>
daniq: your email..ill forward the email
20:49
email it to me
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<daniQ>
i'll have to go to the microsoft side..i can't use my e-mail because of the firefox crashing
20:49
<cliebow>
adelphia.com
20:49
?
20:50
just go to #daniq
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<cliebow>
daniQ:/join 3daniq
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balls!
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daniq:/join #daniq
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<daniQ>
can you see me there?
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<moquist>
cliebow: several of us used "balls!" as our swear of choice during college...thanks for driving me to reminisce for a few moments here. :-)
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<daniQ>
ha!
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<cliebow>
moquist:..8~)\
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<mistik1>
vagrantc: you still up?
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jammcq: ping
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<jammcq>
mistik1: hey
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<mistik1>
hey man
23:23
Where do I get the current ltsp tools
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and daemons
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<jammcq>
umm
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I think all the c code is in launchpad, ogra and vagrantc are using it
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<vagrantc>
mistik1: sure
23:27* vagrantc looks for a URL
23:28* mistik1 has more to learn ;)
23:29* vagrantc struggles with twiki
23:30* jammcq is heading to bed
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<jammcq>
ciao all
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<vagrantc>
http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/IntegratingLtsp
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<mistik1>
ciao
23:30
danke
23:31
vagrantc: tell me something with your methods here, how do you setup a i386 client root on a x86_64 server for example?
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<vagrantc>
mistik1: ltsp-build-client --arch i386
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the other way around is pretty tricky, though.
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<mistik1>
ok
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<vagrantc>
usually, you need to build the chroot on a machine of the appropriate architecture.
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<mistik1>
vagrantc: what exactly does -arch i386 do?
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<vagrantc>
with gentoo, you might be able to do some sort of cross-arch building magic
23:33
<mistik1>
All I would need to do is linux32 chroot /foo/bar
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<vagrantc>
mistik1: it tells the tools which architecture's packages to use to build the chroot
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<mistik1>
ahh, makes sense being a binary distro
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<vagrantc>
could you do that with a building a powerpc chroot on an i386 or x86_64 ?
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<mistik1>
not that i'm aware of
23:37
THen you would certainly need to cross compile
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<vagrantc>
right.
23:37
that would be pretty slick :)
23:37* mistik1 groans
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<vagrantc>
though i wouldn't want to spend too much time on that...
23:38
i know ogra worked on building pre-generated tarballs for cross-architecture support ... that's probably the simplest way to do it.
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<mistik1>
I think i'll sleep on this
23:43
All is posible with proper sleep
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<vagrantc>
yes, sleep. i should get me some of that myself.