IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 28 September 2012   (all times are UTC)

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03:15
<ltspuser_40>
hello to all
03:16
i get an error ifs.mount: connection time out on clients
03:16
need help, please
03:21
anybody live?
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03:24
<ltspuser_07>
good evening everyone (well it's evening in the USA)
03:24
does anyone know of a good LTSP simultaneous usage calculator?
03:25
I'm trying to figure out how many simultaneous LTSP terminals I can support with this Phenom II X6 3.2ghz CPU & 8-gig of RAM
03:25
assuming they are doing simple word documents and general web surfing using Firefox or Chrome (no video)
03:30
<ltspuser_40>
hi
03:31
good evening
03:31
it seems that we are live :)
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03:40
<ltspuser_07>
is anyone alive tonight
03:40
or is everyone hibernating
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09:13
<ltspuser_51>
Hi all! Tell me how to make the download client is not using DHCP
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11:54
<Luizcezar>
hello! I want some ideas about kernel panic on boot, my error is Please append a correct "root=" boot option. In my pxelinux.cfg/default my root path is /dev/nb0 but i didnt find nb0 on dev, is it normal?
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11:56
<jahmon>
Hi guys, anyone know how i can get lts.conf to just run my script and do nothing else?
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11:58
<jahmon>
i've got....
11:58
[default]
11:58
SCREEN_07 = citrix1
11:58
but it just stalls on boot up and gives no output on the pxe client
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<jahmon>
:'(
12:32
<markit>
hi alkisg :) Just one question... to troubleshoot kde problems I need to login from my pc to a FAT client. I've installed openssh-server in chroot, but I can't login as root/one user in the fat. is easy for you tell me the steps required? i.e. do I have to add /etc/passwd from host to chroot? other? epoptes could help?
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12:35
<Inar>
Hello everybody - I can't get sound for local-applications to work. Wondered im someone could recommend a docu/man site for that.
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<alkisg>
markit: epoptes can help, yes, right click on the client and select to open a root terminal
14:16
To login as root with ssh you need to set a root password in the chroot
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<markit>
alkisg: hi, thanks
14:27
but chroot does not have /etc/passwd or I recall wrongly?
14:27
<alkisg>
It does
14:28
It doesn't have user accounts though (uid >= 1000)
14:28
<markit>
oh, ok
14:28
sure, that makes sense
14:28
<alkisg>
Check the wiki, it's mentioned there
14:28
<markit>
:)
14:28
I've tons of notes I should reorder and leran, sigh
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<markit>
s/leran/learn
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<jahmon>
Hi guys, im to modify the rdesktop script to run my citrix ica client. but the rdesktop script doesn't seem to be working, it starts the xserver, but just shows a mouse pointer and nothing else, any ideas?
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<jahmon>
perhaps its trying to launch rdesktop too early and the xserver hasn't started....
15:31
<alkisg>
rdeskop isn't installed by default in recent ubuntu versions
15:31
xfreerdp is preferred instead
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<jahmon>
so if i just did a symlink from xfreerdp binary to my script it should work? might have to lose a few arguments i guess.
15:34
lazy solution :)
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<blakes>
Need help. The ltsp server (12.04lts) is no longer allowing thin clients to NAT through its outside interface! Rebooted server after auto updates and now we are toast.
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<blakes>
Maybe iptables?
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<Mava>
blakes: check what the /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward says
15:42
cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
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<blakes>
it's a one (1)
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<Mava>
gut
15:43
then very likely it is iptables imho
15:45
<blakes>
you think this will work for me: http://www.revsys.com/writings/quicktips/nat.html
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<Mava>
it should yea, looks familiar
15:47
<blakes>
thnx!!!
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<jahmon>
even xfreerdp just gives a blank screen with a mouse pointer :s
15:52
confused as my kiosk was working fine and that obviously needs an xserver...
15:53
<blakes>
Mava... this did not work. I cannot ping the outside interface (eth1) of the ltsp server when logged into a thin client.
16:00
<kb8wmc>
I have problem loading client under Ubuntu 10.04: Client halts at Error: Connect: Connection refused *Starting LTSP client......Invalid card number.
16:03
<Mava>
blakes: very intresting, can't help you dude anymore - sauna is warm and she's waiting - good luck anycase =)
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<blakes>
Just so I can close the loop, and provided that these sessions live somewhere on the interwebs, I found the solution to my thin client being unable to connect to the internet problem
16:52
Upon reboot after update, isc-dhcp-server took over from dnsmasq for some reason, and the defaults in the /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf was to make 192.168.0.1 the default route......
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<alkisg>
"took over from dnsmasq"? You have dnsmasq as a dhcp server? 2 of them?
16:53
<blakes>
my default route is the thin client-side interface of the ltsp server at 192.168.0.254.
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alkisg: I had initially set up dnsmasq to handle dhcp services, yes and disabled isc-dhcp-server.... it may have been you who suggested to do so back in Aug
16:55
<alkisg>
Why disable instead of uninstall?
16:55
<blakes>
don't remember... was a long time ago, computer-wise ;)
16:56
The config got blown away, presumably by a recent update.... just a guess
16:57
took a little while to figure out, but ssh'ed to the thin client and discovered the routing problem, then worked backward from there.
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I don't know if you remember, but this was an upgrade from 10.04 -> 12.04 and the transition to dnsmasq and nbd-server was a bit small bit of crazy.
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<ltspuser_73>
hello
17:52
i have a question
17:52
<vagrantc>
the channel awaits your question(s)
17:52
<ltspuser_73>
i have a debian squeeze filesystem and i'm using ldm
17:53
some applications like firefox, thunderbird, etc don't have the same theme as gnome
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the menu of firefox stays grey instead of dark
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like nautilus
17:55
<vagrantc>
does it behave differently when using LTSP?
17:57
<ltspuser_73>
the behave is the same but the theme of certain applications like firefox, thunderbird is different from ubuntu's theme
17:58
<vagrantc>
so you want to have a similar theme across applications?
17:58
<ltspuser_73>
yes
17:59
exactly
17:59
<vagrantc>
themeing is not my forte :(
18:00
<ltspuser_73>
not mine too :)
18:00
thank you
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have a nice weekend
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<knipwim>
does ubuntu or debian have support for the --packages option in ltsp-build-client?
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for a list of extra packages to install
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<vagrantc>
there's --early-packages, --late-packages and --kernel-package son debian
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and --backports-packages, --pin-packages ...
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but no --packages
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<knipwim>
gentoo only had --packages, i was wondering what to write in the wiki
18:13
s/had/has/
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<vagrantc>
could implement --packages easily enough, would probably just either append to --late-packages or --early-packages
18:15
if we wanted to come up with a more standard list of options that distros need to support
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<knipwim>
good idea
18:17
i'll make a note of common options in the wiki
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and a list of distro-specific ones
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<knipwim>
Debian has a lot of options!
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<vagrantc>
yes it does.
18:58
probably to a fault
19:10
<gvy>
phew, wish me luck: we run a local free software conference tomorrow
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<muppis>
I'm not yet familiar playing with fat/thin in same network. So, if I but LTSP_FATCLIENT=False to lts.conf, fats will boot as thin?
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<vagrantc>
gvy: good luck! where at?
19:25
muppis: that will force thin clients, even if the various methods of autodetecting that it should be booted as a fat client
19:25
rather, it doesn't try to autodetect
19:25
<muppis>
vagrantc, you were slow.. ;) Tried out it already. :D
19:26
<vagrantc>
muppis: you were slow, i tried it out ages ago :P
19:26
<muppis>
vagrantc :P
19:28
But yet, but not ltsp related, problem. I need to resize server's home partition and.. well, I want to do it with gparted..
19:29
<gvy>
vagrantc, Kiev, Ukraine: http://conference.osdn.org.ua/en/
19:29
<vagrantc>
muppis: boot it to a live cd or something
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or boot it to LTSP :)
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19:31
<muppis>
vagrantc, well... It _is_ a ltsp server and doesn't have a cdrom drive. I could do a usb live..
19:31
<vagrantc>
sure
19:32
muppis: for the future, i recommend using LVM
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<muppis>
If I could find a one..
19:33
vagrantc, I wonder why I didn't used that when I created that server.. Well, it's my homeserver so.
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<muppis>
.
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<knipwim>
vagrantc: http://wiki.ltsp.org/wiki/Talk:Ltsp-build-client
19:33
the distro specific options ^^
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<vagrantc>
muppis: i almost always use lvm, as it adds so little overhead and so much flexibility, i don't have to worry about it in the future.
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<muppis>
vagrantc, I know. I use it in servers @ work.
19:36
So that's why I wonder why I haven't used it here in home.
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<vagrantc>
of course debian/ubuntu default to using thee whole lvm volume ... seems like it'd be smart to leave 10-20% unused.
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<muppis>
Yeah.
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<cliebow>
got al ink for bts this year?
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20:13
<TheProf>
Good afternoon. I hope you are all doing well. I am using Edubuntu 12.04 and loving LTSP. Question: how can I make sure that changes to lts.conf are occurring? Is there a "hello world" sort of thing to make sure the thin clients are reading it?
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<vagrantc>
TheProf: set SCREEN_07=shell
20:28
TheProf: it should just drop you to a shell instead of a graphical environment.
20:29
<muppis>
vagrantc, I created a LVM afterall. :D
20:30
<TheProf>
vagrantc: Great thanks! And this should work under the [default] section correct?
20:30
<muppis>
TheProf, yes.
20:30
<vagrantc>
muppis: you just didn't... notice? :)
20:31
<muppis>
It can be put that way. :)
20:31
<TheProf>
Thank you.
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<monteslu>
what's a good way to take a screenshot of a thin client from the server? I've tried something like "ksnapshot --display=192.168.0.81:1.0" or gnome-snapshot but that doesnt seem to work
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does that need to actually run on the thin client?
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<alkisg>
If you are root, you can bypass the xorg authentication and do it, but it'd be better to use a tool that can do that, like e.g. epoptes
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!epoptes
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<ltsp>
epoptes: Epoptes is a computer lab administration and monitoring tool. It works on Ubuntu and Debian based labs with LTSP or non-LTSP servers, thin and fat clients, standalone workstations, NX clients etc. More info: http://www.epoptes.org
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