IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 6 June 2016   (all times are UTC)

00:07
<vagrantc>
sbalneav: looks like you've been busy! :)
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09:38
<sromanczukiewicz>
Hi
09:39
<alkisg>
Hello
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10:33
<Rosie_>
hi
10:33
i need help with my LTSP client.
10:33
I have img file from /opt/images/ and i need check kernel version in this .img file.
10:34
Can you help me?
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10:48
<Rosie_>
hi
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12:27
<vlt>
!bugtracker
12:27
<ltsp>
Error: "bugtracker" is not a valid command.
12:28
<vlt>
Hello. Where can I report a bug to?
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12:32
<ogra_>
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ltsp/+filebug
12:33
<vlt>
ogra_: Thanks.
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13:53
<sbalneav>
:q
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18:31
<sbalneav>
vagrantc: libnss-external's a bust. It won't work, and I've spent the morning getting the sshauth to work with pam_python, which is already packaged. I've just done a login with pam_python + script + nss-extrausers, which works fine.
18:32
So we don't need any packaging for either pam-external or nss-external.
18:32
ah well, easy come, easy go. :D
19:03
<vagrantc>
sbalneav: oh, pam_python basically does what you wanted pam-external to do?
19:04
in a sense, having code that other people (allegedly) maintain is a great win! :)
19:06
<maldridge>
its just the alleged maintenence that gets to be a problem
19:06
<vagrantc>
yeah
19:08
<sbalneav>
I've just checked, it's still an active project.
19:09
<vagrantc>
last upload to debian was almost 2 years ago ... but new upstream version wasn't released till february 2016 looks like
19:09
<sbalneav>
maldridge: That's a problem with all free software. Alternatives: Mac OSX, Microsoft Windows. :D
19:10
Minor updates, nothing that would affect us.
19:10
<vagrantc>
sbalneav: so, knowing what you know now ... is libpam-python the way to go ... or does libpam-sshauth need more work?
19:12
<maldridge>
sbalneav: I'd say its a problem with all software, not just free software
19:12
<sbalneav>
Our goal is: "as little compiled code as we can manage". If I can get a login-authenticator going under libpam-python, that fits in with our goals.
19:12
<vagrantc>
wow, someone updated sourceforge.net to the current millenia
19:12
<sbalneav>
I'll continue working on that for the next couple of days.
19:12
<vagrantc>
sbalneav: python for pam authentication might add some ram and cpu overhead ... but maybe given everything else running, it's fine.
19:13
<sbalneav>
Well, authentication happens very infrequently
19:13
Once at login
19:14
and again everytime you'll unlock a screen saver
19:14
<vagrantc>
sure... just curious if it's bumping the minimum ram required
19:14
<sbalneav>
Given the number of things that run now with python, I don't think it should.
19:15
<vagrantc>
yeah, just stating the obvious concerns :)
19:15
<sbalneav>
Sure, let's keep an eye on it, absolutely.
19:16
We can always pick up libpam-sshauth again if we need to, it's just that it's a *HECK* of a lot easier to write something in python than it is in C.
19:16
<vagrantc>
sure
19:16
given that "write in C" usually amounts to "wait till sbalneav has time for it" :)
19:17
and python, well, a number of us are more able to fumble our way through it :)
19:18
<sbalneav>
That's the goal; if we can make everything available in scripting, it means the bar is greatly lowered for participation in LTSP development.
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19:29
<maldridge>
10/10 would develope for LTSP in python
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19:29
<maldridge>
s/pe/p/
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19:29
<alkisg>
Why? E.g. the ltsp-cluster code was all "sed, ip, awk" etc in python, which wasn't very readable
19:30
<maldridge>
I'm still not clear what ltsp-cluster was for
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19:30* alkisg managed to implement some support for multiseat support LTSP... how do these look like? SCREEN_07="ldm -seat seat-1" SCREEN_07_WAIT_FGCONSOLE=False SCREEN_07_LDM_AUTOLOGIN="True"
19:31
<alkisg>
SCREEN_08="ldm -seat seat0"
19:31
UDEV_SEAT_1_GRAPHICS="*/pci*/*/0000:01:00.0*"
19:31
UDEV_SEAT_1_SOUND="*/sound/card1*"
19:31
UDEV_SEAT_1_USB="*/usb?/?-[1,3,5,7,9,11,13,15,17,19]/*"
19:32
<vagrantc>
whoah
19:32
<alkisg>
vagrantc: WAIT_FGCONSOLE=False, does that make sense? (in order for ldm to start in that seat, without waiting for fgconsole=SCREEN_NUM
19:32
I've also implemented per-screen directives, like SCREEN_07_LDM_AUTOLOGIN="True"
19:33
<vagrantc>
alkisg: makes sense ... not sure if there's better wording
19:33* vagrantc thinks a bit
19:33
<vagrantc>
alkisg: cool!
19:33
<alkisg>
WAIT_FOR_VT_ACTIVATED seems too long
19:33
And the UDEV_SEAT_* directives are for hardware matching, they match udev's DEVPATH
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19:34
<alkisg>
So the end result is, that with 1 extra pci-e graphics card, and mouse/keyb/monitor, you can an extra seat for each ltsp client
19:35
*s/can/get/
19:35
<vagrantc>
some clients even have multiple displays on-board...
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19:35
<alkisg>
Multiple displays should be supported; multiple outputs (dual head etc), not yet...
19:36
Those require xephyr, it's not proper multiseat
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