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hi there, i want to use a thin client of HP ( supporting Citrix and RDP ) with LTSP, what do i need to do to get it working ?
I've setup Ubuntu server to support LTSP as described of the websites.
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hey robbie...enjoying your spring?
very much so
that much so
WOw..that is gorgeous
cliebow_: i see you updated to gutsy as well
yeah the place is looking real good this year, we finaly got some rain
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jammcq:you thought about food for bts?
cliebow__: food is easy
lobster+beer == well fed
I figure lunch on saturday, we'll stop in Ellsworth on the way into SW.Harbor
maybe a quickie at wendys or McD's or something
then, dinner we'll get David.L to cook us up a wonderful dinner
Cool!! he is amenable??
the kOZY kOVE is uncertain..ill try to check that out
I figure for dinner on sunday, maybe we'll get some pizzas from that place not too far from the Seawall. it was a party store directly west of the seawall
kind of around the block, but it's a big block
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my ltsp doesn't boot since i've updated ubuntu
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paul0: Have you re-built the chroot?
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Some co-workers and I want to build a couple of sumobots and are researching controllers. The make boards definately has a lot of features, but does that make it a more complicated board to program?
Oops, wrong window. forgive me.
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I setup ltsp in my home a few years back, really loved it. At work recently I saw a use for it and decided to set up a server to get familiar with it again, it's really changed a lot.
hopefully mostly for the better :)
We've been working on it :)
sbalneav: any idea why LDM2 in etch doesn't display the background, but otherwise works ?
or more, what would cause that
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I setup an edubuntu lab environment in less than 30 min.
vagrantc: Well, it's the greeter itself that displays the background.
sbalneav: the other parts of the greeter work fine
one sec, I'll point you to the relevent lines.
this is going to force me to become semi-competant in reading C i suspect :)
Oh, by the way, now that things are slowing down a bit, I'm going to upgrade my etch box. Lenny's probably where I should be at?
sbalneav: lenny's the development environment
lately, i've been testing on lenny, and then when i get it to a reasonably good state, try to backport it to etch.
logo = gtk_image_new_from_file(PIXMAPS_DIR "/logo.png");
So, PIXMAPS_DIR needs to be set in the autoconf
rawpic = gdk_pixbuf_new_from_file_at_scale(PIXMAPS_DIR "/bg.png", pw, ph, FALSE, NULL);
so, what would cause that to work when compiled for lenny, but fail when compiled for etch ?
And that's the background
and actually, if i install the packages compiled for etch on lenny, it works.
Well, good question.
just get a blank white screen
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One of two things:
Either the PIXMAPS_DIR macro isn't being set for some reason, or...
gdk_pixbuf_new_from_file_at_scale() is broken for some strange reason.
Not a perm problem, is it?
Shouldn't be, since the greeter runs as root.
and the permissions when installed on etch are the same when installed on lenny
You can just run the greeter standalone on the server.
Try putting all the pixmap stuff up on the server, then just run ldmgtkgreet
You should be able to alt tab between it and the terminal you start it from
two main difficulties with the etch backport... X.org in etch isn't good enough at autoconfiguring itself... but i've enabled a way to use the old method ... and LDM doesn't display the background...
You can actually interact with the greeter: send it the commands it needs, and read it's responses.
maybe it'll issue a GTK error complaining about the image.
yeah, it just reads/writes stdio
should i be able to see that in the ldm.log ?
Hmmm, I don't thing I'm trapping stderr, and piping it anywhere. I probably should.
if i recall correctly, i don't see anything
I'd have to connect stderr to the logfile, with dup() or some such.
oh, regarding lenny, the 5.0.3?* packages haven't actually made it to lenny yet ... waiting for other dependencies to get into lenny
Well, I should move to lenny anyway on the deb box.
but i've tested the newer ltsp stuff with lenny and it appears to be working
got a boatload of translations pending :)
latest addition is a complete finnish translation
We'll want to make the translations part of upstream, you'll have to show me how that whole i18n thing works.
I'm completely clueless when it comes to i18n. I need a i18n for dummies book :)
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sbalneav: it's pretty simple for shell scripts ... not sure how it works for C programs
ogra: as far as i can tell, you have german translations for LDM, but they do not actually get built or installed ... ?
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sbalneav: basically, anywhere you would normally put a string ... say ... echo "foo bar" ... instead you would put echo "`eval_gettext "foo bar"`"
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sbalneav: and then at build time, make looks through all your shell scripts, pulls out the translateable strings, and compiles the language-stuff
i think for C, it's actually a little more elegant
it's actually fairly similar based on what I've seen
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vagrantc: So, it's for sure you're not coming to bts?
sbalneav: i've got some commitments here till mid-november
till the 11th, at least
Too bad. I'll miss you
i'd really like to hang out and figure out some of the upstream stuff
sbalneav: i think you should get to meet stratus at the UDS, though. he's been one of the debian LTSP folks
Well, hang around online
We'll ask plenty of questions
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main things i want to work on are getting ldm split into it's own source package... right now it's holding the rest of ltsp from progressing from unstable to testing in debian
and getting some theme packages
so that all architectures don't have to duplicate all the .png files, and to make it easier for other CDDs to drop in their themes.
(CDD = custom debian distribution)
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i've just got to sit down and do a proof of concept with splitting the ldm stuff out ... been meaning to for ages.
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got a proof of concept split of ldm out of ltsp
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when I'm running a graphic-intensive application off an LTSP server, do all the thin clients need graphics cards capable of running the app, or is it only the server that does?
I hope that's not a dumb question
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^Migs^: any terminal that will run the graphical program
so if I'm trying to run something that requires, e.g., Pixel Shader 2.0, the client needs an adequate graphics card?
I'm not sure what you meant by any terminal that will run the graphical program
^Migs^: Even with a good graphics card, you'll probably find that performance on a thin client will be much slower.
Simply because all the graphical operations are now going to be tunnelled over the network.
So, at a bare minimum, you're going to want gigabit networking.
okay, I was expecting to use gbit anyway. Still hasn't answered my question. Does the server's graphics card handle all the graphics processing, or does the client's?
I was wanting to install some applications like Celestia (www.shatters.net/celestia) or Alice (www.alice.org) in a school lab, but might be harder with that restriction
Well, instead of celestia, you can use kstars, which will work fine on a thin client.
it's not even remotely comparable
you can travel through the entire universe with Celestia. Not so with kstars.
I wouldn't say it sucks, as I use it all the time for my amateur astronomy, but to each his own.
my opinions are always correct
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Hi! fast question , is possible to implement a windows xp diskless node ?, there is some howto for this? thanks in advance
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Hi! fast question , is possible to implement a windows xp diskless node ?, there is some howto for this? thanks in advance
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pabluss: you are asking a WINDOWS question in a Linux forum. you aren't likely to get much response
jammcq: no, because severals years ago i did it but nfs + etherboot in a Sun Solaris Server, now reading ltsp i think that is possible.... i don't know if there is some experience for this...
jammcq: the windows flavor was windows 3.11 , now i don't know if it's possible with xp ..
pabluss: I'll remind you the 'L' in LTSP stands for Linux
we don't do windows here
jammcq: but --> http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/WinIntegration ?
the idea is the same..
that's not booting windows as diskless
that's using rdesktop to access a windows terminal server
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