IRC chat logs for #ltsp on irc.freenode.net (webchat)


Channel log from 19 September 2008   (all times are UTC)

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<amol>
i have done till adding user in fuse group but at client side no event recognized after attaching usb
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<johnny>
broken usb port?
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<vagrantc>
i think the localdev debugging got trickier when we added the slight security mechanisms.
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<Pascal_1>
bonjour
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<amol>
cyberorg, to get login screen i installed ldm in chroot /opt/ltsp/i386..but due that ltsp-clien got removed
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ltsp-client
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cyberorg, due that client harddisk and local storage device are not getting detected..
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<amol>
ogra, hi
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<Jarlo>
Hello all, Im new to ltsp and ubuntu admin in general, I have a new thincan DBE60-1 which Ive added to config, when I fire up box I get a kernal panic -not syncing: Attempting to kill idle task, I have a newer model DBE61 working well on the network since install last week. Any ideas what I should do
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<amol>
ogra, local storage devices are not getting detected at client side..
04:46
<johnny>
amol, talk to the room please
04:46
not a person
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unless a conversation has already been started
04:46
<cyberorg>
johnny talk to the hand eh?
04:47
<johnny>
cyberorg, it's something i see over all sorts of rooms... folks need to learn nettiquette
04:47
<cyberorg>
amol, you need ltspfs installed on the server, and many tiny details correct in the chroot
04:48
<johnny>
ubuntu does a fine job with that tho
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<amol>
cyberorg, can you tell me tiny details??
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<johnny>
cyberorg, the last problem was that stuff wasn't even being seen on plug
04:58
via udev
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err
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before udev
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<amol>
i am not seeing any log event when i am plugging pen drive
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but before installing ldm i was not getting login screen ..was able to access local hard disk and pen drive in terminal mode
05:02
after installing ldm automayically ltsp-client ltspfsd got removed..
05:03
now if i plug in pen drive on server that pen drive as well harddisk of server able to access
05:03
at client workstation
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<johnny>
ldm comes by defualt
05:05
why did you mess with it?
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if i was you.. i'd regenerate a new chroot
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<amol>
johnny, means?? what i should i do?
05:22
regenerate new chroot?
05:25
<cyberorg>
amol, look at all debian ltsp packages closely, what it installs in the server, in the client, what files it adds, modifies etc
05:25
just doing it trial and error is waste of your time
05:26
you can ask if you dont understand anything after you have gone through the list of pieces that makes ltsp and the files they install
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<cyberorg>
amol, some information is available here http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/IntegratingLtsp that may help, although bit outdated
05:28
<amol>
cyberorg, i am having one doubt..when i am craeting any doc where it should store on server /home/user/ or /opt/ltsp/i386/home/user/
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??
05:29
for me it is storing at /home/user/
05:29
<cyberorg>
/home/user on the server
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<amol>
then why /opt/ltsp/i38x/home folder is created??
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<cyberorg>
for local device to work, ltspfs should be installed on the server, and ltspfsd should be running in the client
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<amol>
cyberorg, ltspfs in chroot enviornment or as ltsp-server?
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<cyberorg>
<cyberorg> for local device to work, ltspfs should be installed on the server, and ltspfsd should be running in the client
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<johnny>
amol, home can be used for local apps, which will be more easily available in future releases
05:36
amol, delete your /opt/ltsp/i386 and redo ltsp-build-client
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<amol>
what we wil happen after doing this??
05:36
once again generating tree will solve any problem?
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<johnny>
you broke it
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<cyberorg>
amol, all configurations are supposed to be done automatically when the client is built, manual intervention means messups
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<johnny>
by removing stuff or adding ldm or whatever you did
05:38
ldm should already be there, you're not supposed to install it
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<Jarlo>
ok will try again, and try and not offend anyone. I have a kernal panic issue with a thincan using ltsp 5. Could some one point in the right direction for docs that may help.
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<cyberorg>
Jarlo, may be you are missing some network module, there should be more information before kernel panic
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network or other kernel module in initrd
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<Jarlo>
Thanks cyborg, module, my tech speak is limited. unknown boot option + 0 * 0/ *1e 0 then adhoc mac addresses
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<jammcq>
good morning friends
08:07
http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/ByTheSea2008
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if you are coming, please sign up
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<Jarlo>
I have the thincan in the dhcpd.conf with correct mac but?
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<cliebow>
I'M COMING!!
08:17
despite a long commute
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<jammcq>
hey cliebow
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we'll be happy to have you there
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<ogra>
cliebow, fyling ?
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*flying
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<cliebow>
yeah ;-]
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<ogra>
:)
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<_UsUrPeR_>
morning all! :D
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<sbalneav>
Morning all
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<Q-FUNK>
!s
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<ltspbot`>
Q-FUNK: "s" is Scotty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
09:09
<sbalneav>
Morning Q-FUNK
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<Petaris>
Hi all
09:14
:)
09:14
<sbalneav>
Hey Petaris
09:14
<Petaris>
Hi sbalneav
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<Petaris>
Is there a way to have clients automatically login at boot with a pre-specified username?
09:16
<sbalneav>
Yup
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<Petaris>
like student1, student2
09:16
ah, cool
09:16
<sbalneav>
Are you talking LTSP5?
09:16
<Petaris>
yes, kiwi-ltsp
09:16
MueKow
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er, LTSP-5
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<sbalneav>
As far as I know, yes
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<cyberorg>
in lts.conf LDM_USERNAME = test LDM_PASSWORD = 123456 LDM_AUTOLOGIN = True
09:17
<sbalneav>
Yep
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<Petaris>
ok,, then I just set the station by mac?
09:17
Hi cyberorg, didn't know you were in here
09:18
<cyberorg>
Petaris, yes, if you have 11.0 installed, you can have easy-ltsp generate lts.conf
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<Petaris>
ahh, I am using SLED 10
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<cyberorg>
Petaris, copy in lts.conf generated elsewhere or manually edit /srv/tftpboot/KIWI/lts.conf
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<Petaris>
ok
09:19
I am in the lts.conf file now
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already made a backup
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;)
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<cyberorg>
you can at least use easy-ltsp to look up all the variables that you can use, put the variables under [MAC] section
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<Petaris>
ok
09:20
then I just have to figure out how to find the mac addresses on the clients :)
09:20
<cyberorg>
Petaris, /var/log/messages on the server
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<Petaris>
cyberorg: cool, thanks
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<Petaris>
Hi ogra
09:27
:)
09:28
<_UsUrPeR_>
is anyone in here well-versed in java?
09:29
not java script, just java
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<Gadi>
!seen mistik1
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<ltspbot`>
Gadi: mistik1 was last seen in #ltsp 3 days, 9 hours, 48 minutes, and 44 seconds ago: <mistik1> johnny: take it easy man
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<Gadi>
_UsUrPeR_: missed him by 3 and a half days...
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:)
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<Gadi>
jammcq: does ltsp-discuss block emails with attachments?
09:46
So, someone on ltsp-discuss was looking for a way to restrict user from logging on to a particular machine, so I whipped up a script. I will pastebot for anyone here interested...
09:46
<ltsppbot>
"Gadi" pasted "/opt/ltsp/i386/usr/lib/ldm/rc.d/S20restrictUser" (28 lines) at http://pastebot.ltsp.org/82
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<_UsUrPeR_>
gadi: oh well. nothing super-imperative
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<jammcq>
Gadi: umm, yeah, I think it does block attachments
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<Gadi>
ah - that would explain it
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:)
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<jammcq>
http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/ByTheSea2008
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people need to sign up
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<Gadi>
done (for now)
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<jammcq>
awesome
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the momentum is building
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<Gadi>
why is Local Apps on the agenda?
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didn't we do that already :)
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<jammcq>
is it done?
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<Gadi>
well, ogra has to do his automagic piece (which, frankly, I still don't see how to handle cleanly)
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<jammcq>
well...
10:18
<Gadi>
well, well...
10:23* cliebow cliebow waits for email with twiki new pw\
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<Gadi>
jammcq: will you be driving through Portland?
10:27
<jammcq>
possibly
10:27
we might come through canada and drop down into maine
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<Gadi>
ah
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<jammcq>
it's shorter to stay in canada longer
10:28* Gadi weighs driving from NY vs. flying and renting a car
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<jammcq>
i'm beginning to belive getting out on the open road isn't an east coast thing
10:29* Gadi looks at price of gas...
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<Gadi>
:)
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<jammcq>
believe me, I've seen the price of gas. I have 2 suburbans to keep on the road
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<Gadi>
how long is the drive for u?
10:30
for me, its ~7hrs
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<jammcq>
it's 1002 miles each way
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and so far, I think there will be 4 of us in the car
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<Gadi>
thats a lot of open road
10:31
<jammcq>
sure is
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<Blinny>
and a lot of closed car
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<jammcq>
Blinny: well, it's a big car
10:33
the guys can sit in back and watch some DVD's or something
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<Blinny>
No in-car coding??
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<jammcq>
i'm sure that'll be happening
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<jammcq>
they'll bring up IRC and chat amoungst themselves
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<Blinny>
Hook the wireless router up to the parabolic satellite intarwebnets dish on the roof!
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and play some networked doom 1
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<Q-FUNK>
hm?
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<Gadi>
I love southwest harbor, but travel arrangements are always a pain
10:39* Gadi should own a boat
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<jammcq>
yeah, then we'd just drive to New York and get on your boat
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and start rowing
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<Gadi>
I wonder how much it costs to fly into sw harbor
10:40
that'd be a trip
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<jammcq>
well, you'd have to charter a private plane
10:41
a great trip would be from that small airport near me
10:41
when I get my jet, that's what I'll do
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<Gadi>
BHB is only for charters?
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<jammcq>
well, I don't thnk there's any commercial flights there
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<cliebow>
BHB is served by Bar Harbor Airlines..prob quite pricey
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<Gadi>
well, it would take 3 hours and cost almost $700
10:44
:P
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(on US air)
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<cliebow>
you "could" hitch aride with Martha Stewart..
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<jammcq>
what, through philly ?
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<Gadi>
thru BOS
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cliebow: is there any public transportation to the seawall?
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<cliebow>
there is me ;-]
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<Gadi>
or cabs?
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:)
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<cliebow>
lots o cabs
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<Gadi>
how much for a cab from Bangor airport?
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<cliebow>
errr..not sure...i might be able to come after you..
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<Gadi>
just wondering what the options are...
10:49
since there's always a car involved, it seems to almost always be easiest to drive from NY
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<cliebow>
i can find out..thursday??
10:49
<Gadi>
(if not longest)
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<Shane-S>
anyone here familiar with the CentOS version of K12LTSP? I need VNC help
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<Shane-S>
specifically, I don't have a good workspace to perform tasks at the keyboard and mouse, as it is in a tight room without a KVM, I need to enable VNC access for root
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<johnny>
sounds not like an ltsp problem at all
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but a general problem with centos
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i mean.. not a problem with centos.. but it doesn't sound ltsp related
12:34
just a normal centos configuration thing
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<Shane-S>
well I asked here, because #k12ltsp displays an error message on its custom login screen, but I can't read it
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and it is customized beyond the normal centOS I think, but not sure, just not trying it, and can't find what I need on their Wiki so far
12:37
I will keep playing at least I am in as the account I created during install
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<Blinny>
Shane-S: I used to run the Fedora version of K12 - What is the problem?
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<Shane-S>
I wanted to VNC in as root, but says that login is not allowed
12:50
I am in as the admin user I made during the install, but the root account has more tools available
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<johnny>
i personally just ssh in and do all my work that way.. i don't even know how to use vnc :(
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<Shane-S>
yeah, they just have nice scripts and stuf on the root desktop to copy icons to users desktops and everything
12:55
I am just now fianlly going to try and use it as I have a server that can handle my 15 clients
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guess it is a centOS thing, just tried to gedit a file after su root, and it fails to launch
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<stgraber>
jammcq: hey, jcastro told me you could be interested in having a look at https://wiki.stgraber.org/LTSP-Cluster (work in progress)
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<Blinny>
Shane-S: Sorry, I've never turned on remote root login through VNC. Maybe under System->Administration->...?
13:09
Shane-S: And, to be honest, I wouldn't. Why not use something like FreeNX instead, so at least you get some encryption in the mix?
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<Shane-S>
its not a big deal, I just need to edit the config file and I can't really fit in my closet, I might just have to work with vim
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<Blinny>
Shane-S: Either way, you'll have better luck in #centos
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Shane-S: If vim scares you, use pico/nano
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<Shane-S>
is nano pico?
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<johnny>
no
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<Shane-S>
cause pico isnt on there
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<johnny>
it's a pico clone
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but open source
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<Shane-S>
ok
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thanks
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<johnny>
some systems link the binaries so both names work
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<Petaris>
cyberorg: I am having trouble with the automatic login, could you look at my lts.conf and see if I am doing something wrong? I am going off of the easy-ltsp docs and ltsp.org
13:16
http://phpfi.com/354919
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<cyberorg>
Petaris, looks good to me, does writing MAC in all caps make any difference?
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<Petaris>
not sure, according to the docs it shouldn't
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but I will give it a try
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<cyberorg>
Petaris, this is /srv/tftpboot/KIWI/lts.conf ?
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<Petaris>
yes
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it causes it to just blink at boot
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just like it did before the CONFIGURE_X=True was in there
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<cyberorg>
at what point?
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<Petaris>
nope, that didn't change anything
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at the point of starting X
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<cyberorg>
did you check if the username and password are valid by doing ssh from another machine?
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<Petaris>
yeah, its valid
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though it asks me for an NDS password too
13:21
hrm
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<cyberorg>
Petaris, you should be able to log in using just provided username and password
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<Petaris>
right
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<cyberorg>
ldm autologin with work only then
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<Petaris>
ok
13:31
had to modify /etc/pam.d/sshd and remove the pam_nam.so stuff
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but it boots and logs in now
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Thanks cyberorg
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:)
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<cyberorg>
mention somewhere in troubleshooting
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<Petaris>
ok
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<Petaris>
not sure it should go on the LTSP/SLED one as it won't be experienced by people who haven't been trying to get novell logins to work
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<cyberorg>
Petaris, just autologin troubleshooting, how to test details
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<Petaris>
ahh
13:34
ok
13:35
Is there a page for autologin yet?
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<cyberorg>
nope, just add http://en.opensuse.org/LTSP/Troubleshooting
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<Petaris>
ahh, ok
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will do
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<cyberorg>
autologin should not have many trouble to fill its own wiki page :)
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<Petaris>
cyberorg: But maybe it should have its own page for walking through setup, or a section on another page.
13:41
Anyway that page is updated
13:48
cyberorg: How can I set xfce as the default desktop?
13:48
I tried update-alterntives but it doesn't let me change it
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<_UsUrPeR_>
hey guys, if I am running gnome on my server, and I want to try KDE out on a client, what should I change?
15:46
this is pertaining to Fedora
15:46
the ltsp-client-launch doesn't have a Desktop="gdm" line in there
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and /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/sysconfig/desktop refers to this: DISPLAYMANAGER=/usr/sbin/ltsp-client-launch
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<johnny>
it doesn't use gdm
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it uses ldm
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set it on your server
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if you know the proper session starter
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you can add LDM_SESSION
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with the path
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to your lts.conf
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<Lns>
Didn't someone just ask this on the list?
15:55
I think you need to set your default x-session-manager via the
15:55
update-alternatives command to default to KDE. That should do it. - Scott
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<johnny>
hmm.. anybody wanna trade work for 3 thin clients ? or donate to a non profit? :)
15:57
3 thin clients that can run firefox and flash locally that is..
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<Vplug>
someone speaks italian
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